evidence_text: Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 21, 2021. There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent. The Chair laid HB 5187 and HB 5188 before the committee: HB 5187 (Rep. Fink) A bill to amend 1976 PA 390, entitled "Emergency management act," by amending sections 3 and 5 (MCL 30.403 and 30.405), section 3 as amended by 2002 PA 132 and section 5 as amended by 2006 PA 545. HB 5188 (Rep. Outman) A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public health code," by amending sections 2253 and 2453 (MCL 333.2253 and 333.2453), section 2253 as amended by 2006 PA 157. Representative Fink and Representative Outman, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Christopher Lee, representing the National Shooting Sports Foundation, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Marcy Jankovich, representing the DC Project, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Jordan Hoover, representing Hunter Nation, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Glenn Duncan, representing Duncan's Outdoor Shop, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Richard Hansen, representing Silver Bullet Firearms, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Michael Barbour, representing Top Gun Shooting Sports, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Brady Schickinger, representing the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Scott Jones, representing the National Rifle Association, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Ian Fitzgerald, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Tom Lambert, representing Michigan Open Carry, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Joel Swisher, representing Uncoiled Firearms of Livonia, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. Joel Fulton, representing Freedom Firearms and Calhoun County Gun Owners Association, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. Questions and discussion followed. David Van Lopik, representing himself, testified in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188. The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5187 and HB 5188, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Linda Danders, representing Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense. The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5187 and HB 5188, but did not wish to speak: Connor Bevan, representing the American Sportfishing Association. Tom DeRousie, representing Michigan Gun Owners, Inc. Bruce Tague, representing the Sportsmen's Alliance. Jeff Poet, representing Jay's Sporting Goods. Brendan Boudreau, representing Great Lakes Gun Rights. Salam Fathoi, representing the National Shooting Sports Foundation. Scott Meyer, representing Hunter Nation. Martine Hinds, representing Silver Bullet Firearms. Gregory Berg, representing himself. Randall Mullins, representing Top Gun Shooting Sports. Mark Spencer, representing the Michigan Trappers and Predator Callers Association. Nick Buggia, representing the Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation. The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5187 and HB 5188, but did not wish to speak: Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan. Eric Gaines, representing Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. Martha Couretas, representing Moms for Gun Defense. There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Steven Johnson adjourned the meeting at 11:54 AM. Representative Steven Johnson, Chair Edward Sleeper Committee Clerk esleeper@house.mi.gov