evidence_text: Representative Martin moved to refer HB 4003 to the Committee on Judiciary. The motion prevailed 8-1-0: FAVORABLE ROLL CALL Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Beeler, Eisen, Bezotte, Martin, Jones, Coleman, Steenland. Nays: Rep. Rogers. Pass: None. The committee returned to consideration of HB 4525. Representative Berman returned to answer questions. John Toth, a member of Michigan's Unarmed Combat Commission joined to answer questions. Tim Bourgeois, representing the Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards, testified in opposition to HB 4525. Questions and discussion followed. There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Beau LaFave adjourned the meeting at 1:14 PM. Representative Beau LaFave, Chair Matt Carnagie Committee Clerk mcarnagie@house.mi.gov