evidence_text: Representative Edwards moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 18, 2023. There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent. The Chair laid HB 4863 and HB 4864 before the committee: HB 4863 (Rep. Haadsma) A bill to amend 1967 PA 224, entitled "Powers of appointment act of 1967," by amending sections 5a and 14 (MCL 556.115a and 556.124), section 5a as added and section 14 as amended by 2012 PA 485. HB 4864 (Rep. Wozniak) A bill to amend 1988 PA 418, entitled "Uniform statutory rule against perpetuities," by amending sections 3 and 5 (MCL 554.73 and 554.75), section 5 as amended by 2011 PA 11. The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4863 and HB 4864, but due to the time constraints was unable to speak: Cynthia Mifsud, representing her mother, Betty Hayes. The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4863 and HB 4864, but did not wish to speak: Ashley Steffen, representing the Michigan Department of Attorney General. The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4863 and HB 4864, but did not wish to speak: Julie Bratten, representing herself.