evidence_text: Representative Hoadley moved to report out HB 4254 with recommendation that the bill be referred to the Committee on Rules. The motion prevailed 14-0-2: FAVORABLE ROLL CALL Yeas: Reps. Aragona, Fairbairn, Wozniak, Tisdel, Hoadley, Rigas, Thompson, Linting, Liberati, Tyrone Carter, Witwer, Neeley, Dievendorf and Grant. Nays: None. Pass: Reps. Wendzel and Neyer. At 9:08 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease. At 9:09 AM, Majority Vice Chair Fairbairn called the committee back to order. The Chair laid HB 4963 before the committee: HB 4963 (Rep. Aragona) A bill to amend 2018 IL 1, entitled "Michigan Regulation and Taxation of Marihuana Act," by amending sections 3, 8, 11, and 14 (MCL 333.27953, 333.27958, 333.27961, and 333.27964), sections 3 and 8 as amended by 2023 PA 166 and section 14 as amended by 2023 PA 165. Chair Aragona testified in support of HB 4963. Questions and discussions followed. Clark Orthwein, representing Objectiv, testified in support of HB 4963. Questions and discussions followed. At 9:13 AM, Majority Vice Chair Fairbairn laid the committee at ease. At 9:14 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order. The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4963, but did not wish to speak: Dereck Sova, representing the CRA. Chair Aragona laid before the committee a presentation from Lume. David Morrow and Doug Hellyar, both representing Lume, and Kevin Blair from Honigman, gave a presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed. The Chair laid HB 4969 before the committee: HB 4969 (Rep. Cavitt) A bill to regulate the distribution, sale, and manufacture of kratom products; to require licensing for certain conduct related to kratom and kratom products; to prohibit the distribution, sale, and manufacturing of certain kratom products; to provide for the powers and duties of certain state governmental officers and entities; to prescribe fines and sanctions; to provide remedies; and to require the promulgation of rules. Representative Cavitt testified in support of HB 4969. Questions and discussions followed. Mac Haddow, representing the American Kratom Association, testified in support of HB 4969. John Cleveland, representing the Holistic Alternative Recovery Trust (HART), testified in opposition to HB 4969. Questions and discussions followed. Walker Gallman, representing the Global Kratom Coalition, testified in support of HB 4969. The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4969, but did not wish to speak: Elizabeth Kutter, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association. The following people submitted a card wishing to speak in support of HB 4969, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Andrew Kulpa, representing Botanical for Better Health. David and Melody Woolf, representing Michigan resident users. The following people submitted a card wishing to speak in opposition to HB 4969, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Dr. Edward Boyer, Toxicologist. Sarah Bauer, representing herself. Dereck Sova, representing the CRA.