evidence_text: Representative Tsernoglou moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 11, 2023. There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent. Chair Hope laid before the committee a presentation by the Michigan Association of Treatment Court Professionals (MATCP). Kate Hude, MATCP Executive Director, gave a presentation to the committee. The Chair laid HB 4438 and HB 4439 before the committee: HB 4438 (Rep. Breen) A bill to amend 1969 PA 312, entitled "An act to provide for compulsory arbitration of labor disputes in municipal police and fire departments; to define such public departments; to provide for the selection of members of arbitration panels; to prescribe the procedures and authority thereof; and to provide for the enforcement and review of awards thereof," by amending section 2 (MCL 423.232), as amended by 2011 PA 116. HB 4439 (Rep. Bezotte) A bill to amend 1969 PA 312, entitled "An act to provide for compulsory arbitration of labor disputes in municipal police and fire departments; to define such public departments; to provide for the selection of members of arbitration panels; to prescribe the procedures and authority thereof; and to provide for the enforcement and review of awards thereof," by amending sections 5 and 7a (MCL 423.235 and 423.237a), section 5 as amended by 2011 PA 116. Representative Breen and Representative Bezotte testified in support of HB 4438 and HB 4439. Questions and discussion followed. Ryan Steverson representing the Jackson County Police Officers Association of Michigan testified in support of HB 4438 and HB 4439. David LaMontaine representing the Police Officers Association of Michigan testified in support of HB 4438 and HB 4439. Sheriff Raphael Washington of Wayne County representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association testified in support of HB 4438 and HB 4439. The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4438 and HB 4439, but did not wish to speak: Matt Saxton, Executive Director, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association. Mike Sauger, President, representing the Michigan Fraternal Order of Policy. The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4438, but did not wish to speak: Madeline Fata, representing the Michigan Association of Counties. Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. The Chair laid HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164 before the committee: HB 4160 (Rep. Young) A bill to amend 1953 PA 232, entitled "Corrections code of 1953," by amending section 34 (MCL 791.234), as amended by 2019 PA 14. HB 4161 (Rep. Wilson) A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public health code," by amending section 17764 (MCL 333.17764), as amended by 2004 PA 214. HB 4162 (Rep. O'Neal) A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The Michigan penal code," by amending sections 16, 18, 200i, 204, 207, 209, 210, 211a, 316, 436, and 543f (MCL 750.16, 750.18, 750.200i, 750.204, 750.207, 750.209, 750.210, 750.211a, 750.316, 750.436, and 750.543f), sections 16, 18, 200i, 204, 207, 209, 210, 211a, 436, and 543f as amended by 2014 PA 23 and section 316 as amended by 2022 PA 149, and by adding section 506b. HB 4163 (Rep. Hope) A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code of criminal procedure," by amending sections 1 and 1b of chapter IX (MCL 769.1 and 769.1b), section 1 as amended by 1999 PA 87 and section 1b as amended by 1998 PA 520; and to repeal acts and parts of acts. HB 4164 (Rep. VanderWall) A bill to amend 1939 PA 288, entitled "Probate code of 1939," by amending section 18 of chapter XIIA (MCL 712A.18), as amended by 2022 PA 209. Representative Young, Representative O'Neal, Representative VanderWall, and Representative Wilson testified in support of HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164. Questions and discussion followed. Michael Sepic, retired Berrien County Prosecuting Attorney testified in opposition to HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164. Ronnie Waters and Leon Douglas representing the Safe and Just Michigan testified in support of HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164. Karen Jackson and Crystal Grigonis representing the Co-victims testified in opposition to HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164. The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Tina Olson, representing the State Appellate Defenders Office and the Defense Attorneys of Michigan. Bonnie Zabel, representing the Son / Nation Outside. Preston Shipp, Senior Policy Counsel, representing the Campaign for the Fair Sentencing of Youth. Eric Alexander, Senior Advocate, representing the Campaign for the Fair Sentencing of Youth. Jose Burgos, Reentry Specialist, representing the State Appellate Defender Office. Valencia Warren-Gibbs, representing the herself as a survivor of youth violence. Deb LaBelle, representing the herself as a criminal defense attorney and juvenile justice expert. The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Sheriff Fuller and Sheriff Wriggelsworth, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association. Doug Lloyd, Eaton County Prosecuting Attorney, representing the Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan. Lola Hubbard, representing the John W. Hubbard. John Hubbard, representing the The late John Hubbard. The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4160, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Paye Kirk, representing the Michigan Association of Chiefs of Polic. The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4162, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak: Estee Zandee, representing the themself. Sandy Hunwick Schafke, representing the Michael Hills. The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164, but did not wish to speak: Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan. Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy. John Cooper, representing the Safe and Just Michigan. Jessica Zimbelman, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan. The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4160, HB 4161, HB 4162, HB 4163 and HB 4164, but did not wish to speak: Matt Saxton, Executive Director, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association. Teresa Catey, representing the John Hubbard. There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at 10:21 AM. Representative Kara Hope, Chair Melissa Sweet Committee Clerk msweet@house.mi.gov Date Adopted: May 16, 2023