evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 11, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, October 11, 2023, at 1:00
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 27 (S-3) (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 351 (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 227 (S-1) (Sen. Lauwers) with recommendation.
4. Testimony regarding SB 449 (Sen. Daley).
5. Testimony regarding SB 450 (Sen. Irwin).
6. Testimony regarding HB 4167 (Rep. Morgan).
7. Testimony regarding SB 249 (Sen. Hertel).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:07 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-3) version of SB 27.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 27:
Connor McNeely, Detroit Disability Power – Support
Christine Shearer, Michigan Association of Health Plans – Support
Leah Robinson, Michigan Chamber – Support
Kate Dorsey, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Gabe Basso, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the (S-3) version of SB 27. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, and Huizenga
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report the (S-3) version of SB 27 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, and Huizenga
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 351:
Adrienne Zaya, YWCA Kalamazoo – Support
Kate Dorsey, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Connor McNeely, Detroit Disability Power – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report SB 351 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, and Huizenga
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Webber, Hauck, and Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 227:
Connor McNeely, Detroit Disability Power – Support
Mandy Bolter, D.A. Blodgett St. Johns – Support
Alan Bolter, CMH Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to report the (S-1) version of SB 227 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Sen. Irwin and Bryce Fisher, of Sen. Daley's office, to summarize SB 449 and SB 450.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 449 and SB 450:
Barry Cargill, Michigan HomeCare and Hospice Association – Support
Kort St. John, CareLinc Medical – Support
Wayne Grau, National Coalition for Assistive and Rehab Technology – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 449 and
SB 450:
Thye Fischman, Michigan Medicine – Support
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights Michigan – Support
Alex Meixner, ALS Association – Support
The Chair invited Rep. Morgan to summarize HB 4167.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4167:
Laura Bonnell, The Bonnell Foundation – Support
Tara Britt, Rare Disease Innovations Institute – Support
Carolyn Sheridan, National Organization for Rare Disorders – Support
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4167:
Brian Roser, Alexion, AstraZeneca Rare Disease – Support
Kate Dorsey, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Amy Zaagman, Michigan Council for Maternal and Child Health – Support
Lilly Melander, BIO – Support
Nate Filler, Boehringer Ingelheim USA Corporation – Support
Connor McNeely, Detroit Disability Power – Support
John Hawayek, Spark Therapeutics – Support
Zach Ryan, HFM Hemophilia Foundation of Michigan – Support
Arika Rahman, AiArthritis – Support
Danae Bartke, HCU Network America – Support
Lauren Edwards, Leukemia and Lymphoma Society – Support
Heidi Maxfield, Intermountain PKU and Allied Disorders – Support
Marc Yale, International Pemphigus and Pemphoid Foundation – Support
Dominique Brown, Epilepsy Foundation of Michigan – Support
Tina Pohlman, APS Foundation of America – Support
Heather Ferguson, Lymphedema Advocacy Group – Support
Alex Meixner, ALS Association – Support
At 1:42 p.m., the Chair called for the committee to go at ease.
At 1:43 p.m., the Vice Chair called the committee back to order.
The Vice Chair invited Chair Hertel to summarize SB 249.
At 1:54 p.m., the Vice Chair called for the committee to go at ease.
At 1:55 p.m., the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 249:
Matthew Salter, Michigan Professional Firefighters – Support
Johnny Menifee and Chris Stocklein, Association of Michigan Fire Chiefs – Support
Angela Kohls, Citizen – Oppose
Montgomery Nye, Michigan Professional Fire Fighters Union – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 249:
Jim Williams, Michigan Fire Inspectors Society – Support
Christy Snitgen, Michigan College of Emergency Physicians – Oppose
Angela Madden, Michigan Association of Ambulance Services – Support
Mike Adama, Michigan Professional Fire Fighters Union – Support
Ron Farr, Michigan State Firemen's Association – No Position
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:21 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 18, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JEREMY MOSS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, INSURANCE,
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
SENATOR MARY CAVANAGH
CHAIR
6500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7748
FAX: (517) 373-1387
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 11, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance, Insurance, and Consumer Protection was scheduled for
Wednesday, October 11, 2023, at 1:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 530 (Sen. Cavanagh) and SB 531 (Sen. Anthony).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:03 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis and
Daley, a quorum was present.
At 1:04 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 1:08 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 530 and SB 531:
Jared Fleischer, Rocket Companies – Opposition
Laura Appel, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
Owen Perlman, Resident – Support
Eric Poe, CURE Auto Insurance – Opposition
Chalisse Wilson, Resident – Support
Erin McDonough and Dyck Van Koevering, Insurance Alliance of Michigan – Opposition
Gar Atchison, Upper Peninsula Health System – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 530 and SB
531:
Shelly Clise, Galaxy Brain – Support
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
Matthew Consolo, Secrest Wardle Law Firm – Opposition
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Cheryl Bush, We Can't Wait – Support
Donald Brownell and Michelle Everett, Vanderveer Garzla PC – Opposition
Ann Manning, Resident – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony, but did not note any bills in
their position:
Tim Moore, Resident – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 530 and
SB 531:
Jennifer Brown, Resident – Support
Shelly Clise, Galaxy Brain – Support
Matt Penniman, League of Michigan Bicyclists – Support
Elmer Pascac, We Can't Wait – Support
Pamela Pascha, We Can't Wait – Support
Lois Cordle, We Can't Wait – Support
Peg Campbell, We Can't Wait – Support
Tommy Spring, Resident – Support
Wesley Bush, We Can't Wait – Support
Angela Knight, We Can't Wait – Support
Maureen Howell, Resident – Support
Jim Howell, Resident – Support
Sam Howell, Resident – Support
Christopher Jackson, State Farm – Opposition
Kate Steel, Resident – Support
Denee Reeves, Resident – Support
Craig Ryan, AAA – Opposition
Jesse Gutierrez, We Can't Wait – Support
Diane Mills-Gutierrez, We Can't Wait – Support
Rebecca Wolf Karbowski, Resident – Support
Jayne Jessop, Resident – Support
Justin Sabbaugh, Resident – Support
Terry Glasson, Resident – Support
Andrew Perkins, National Association of Mutual Insurance Companies – Opposition
Kimberly Beer, Christopher & Dana Reeve Foundation – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 530:
Sarah Ott, Resident – Support
Nick Long, Resident – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee, but did not note any
bills in their position:
Heather Boyes, Resident – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:36 p.m.
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location: Room 519, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 12, 2023
10:45 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia,
Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Coffia moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4504 and HB 4505 before the committee:
HB 4504
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 16188.
HB 4505
(Rep. Zorn)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 17801 (MCL
333.17801), as amended by 2009 PA 55, and by
adding sections 17820a and 17820b.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4504 and HB 4505, but did not wish
to speak:
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
Rich Farran, representing the Health Care Association of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4504 and HB 4505, but did not
wish to speak:
Mack Jones, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4504. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Conlin moved to report out HB 4504 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Thompson moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4505. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Schmaltz moved to report out HB 4505 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4169 and HB 4170 before the committee:
HB 4169
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 16188.
HB 4170
(Rep. Wozniak)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 18301 (MCL
333.18301), as amended by 2008 PA 523, and by
adding sections 18303a and 18303b.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4169 and HB 4170, but did not wish
to speak:
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance of Michigan.
Rich Farran, representing the Health Care Association of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4169 and HB 4170, but did not
wish to speak:
Mack Jones, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Representative Neeley moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4169. The motion prevailed
19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 4169 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4170. The motion prevailed 19-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Roth moved to report out HB 4170 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Clerk read a letter from Chair Rogers referring HB 5077 and HB 5078 to the
Subcommittee on Behavioral Health.
At 10:55 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:56 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4276 before the committee:
HB 4276
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
sections 105i and 105j.
Representative Haadsma moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4276. The motion prevailed
12-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Farhat testified in support of HB 4276.
John Covello, the Director of Government Relations for the Independent Pharmacy
Cooperative, testified in support of HB 4276. Questions and discussion followed.
Joel Kurzman, the Director of State Government Affairs for the National Community
Pharmacists Association, testified in support of HB 4276.
John Gross, an independent pharmacy owner, testified in support of HB 4276. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4276, but did not wish
to speak:
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4276, but did not wish to speak:
Eric Roath, representing the Michigan Pharmacists Association.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Fayez Faraj, representing the American Arab Pharmacist Association.
Sammy Salem, representing the American Arab Pharmacist Association.
The Chair laid SB 513 before the committee:
SB 513
(Sen. McBroom)
A bill to amend 1987 PA 230, entitled "Municipal
health facilities corporations act," by amending
section 305a (MCL 331.1305a), as amended by
2017 PA 148.
Senator McBroom testified in support of SB 513.
Hunter Nosrant, the CEO of Helen Newberry Joy Hospital, testified in support of SB 513.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 513, but did not wish to speak:
Melissa Holmquist, representing the Upper Peninsula Health Plan.
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:28 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Matthew Carnagie
Acting Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 12, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Harris moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4740 before the committee:
HB 4740
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 107c.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4740, but did not wish to speak:
Christine Shearer, representing the Michigan Association of Health Plan.
Tom Hickson, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Kate Dorsey, representing the Michigan State Medical Society.
Representative Rogers moved to report out HB 4740 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant.
Nays: Rep. Smit.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer.
The Chair laid HB 5057 before the committee:
HB 5057
(Rep. Stone)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3107 (MCL 500.3107), as amended by 2019 PA
21.
Representative Scott moved to report out HB 5057 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4842 before the committee:
HB 4842
(Rep. Price)
A bill to amend 1964 PA 183, entitled "An act
creating the state building authority with power to
acquire, construct, furnish, equip, own, improve,
enlarge, operate, mortgage, and maintain facilities
for the use of the state or any of its agencies; to act
as a developer or co-owner of facilities as a
condominium project for the use of the state or
any of its agencies; to authorize the execution of
leases pertaining to those facilities by the building
authority with the state or any of its agencies; to
authorize the payment of true rentals by the state;
to provide for the issuance of revenue obligations
by the building authority to be paid from the true
rentals to be paid by the state and other resources
and security provided for and pledged by the
building authority; to authorize the creation of
funds; to authorize the conveyance of lands by the
state or any of its agencies for the purposes
authorized in this act; to authorize the appointment
of a trustee for bondholders; to permit remedies
for the benefit of parties in interest; to provide for
other powers and duties of the authority; and to
provide for other matters in relation to the
authority and its obligations," by amending section
8 (MCL 830.418), as amended by 2012 PA 519.
Representative Young moved to refer House Bill No. 4842 to the Committee on
Appropriations. The motion prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation from Milliman Inc.
Paul Anderson, a principle and consulting actuary with Milliman Incorporated, gave the
presentation. Questions and discussion followed.
The chair laid before the committee a presentation from the Pharmaceutical Care
Management Association.
Sean Stephenson, the Director of State Affairs for the Pharmaceutical Care Management
Association, gave the presentation. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Bezotte moved to
adjourn, Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the meeting at 10:29 AM.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 12, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela,
Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4932 and HB 4962 before the committee:
HB 4932
(Rep. Skaggs)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 90, entitled "Youth
employment standards act," by amending sections
2, 3, 20, 21, and 22 (MCL 409.102, 409.103,
409.120, 409.121, and 409.122), section 2 as
amended by 1996 PA 438, section 3 as amended
by 1997 PA 132, and section 22 as amended by
1980 PA 436.
HB 4962
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 14b
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.14b), as added by
2002 PA 29.
Representative Mentzer moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4932. The motion prevailed
8-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela, Wozniak.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Mueller, Kunse.
Representative Skaggs and Representative Scott testified in support of HB 4932 and HB
4962. Questions and discussion followed.
Jayshona Hicks and Sean Egan, representing the Michigan Department of Labor and
Economic Opportunity, testified in support of HB 4932. Questions and discussion followed.
Rick Angstman, representing Union High School, testified in support of HB 4932 and HB
4962. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4932, but did not wish to speak:
Elinor Jordan, representing the Michigan Immigrant Rights Center.
David Randels, representing Oakland Schools.
Tammy Daenzer, representing the Michigan Education Association.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4932 and HB 4962, but did not wish
to speak:
Mitch Albers, representing the Michigan Association for Justice.
Anne Kuhnen, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy-Kids Count.
Robert Joerg, representing the Michigan Laborers District Council.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial
Organizations of Michigan.
Ashley Steffen, representing the Michigan Department of the Attorney General.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Jenell Mansfield, representing the American Federation of Teachers Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4932 and HB 4962, but did not
wish to speak:
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 9:47 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, TOURISM AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION
REP. LAURIE POHUTSKY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 12, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Natural Resources, Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation
was called to order by Chair Pohutsky.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Shannon moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4832 before the committee:
HB 4832
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act,"
(MCL 324.101 to 324.90106) by adding section
30111d.
Representative Rogers testified in support of HB 4832 and explained the proposed (H-3)
substitute. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid SB 441 before the committee:
SB 441
(Sen. Shink)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 44508, 44524, 47325, 47327,
and 47333 (MCL 324.44508, 324.44524,
324.47325, 324.47327, and 324.47333), sections
44508, 47325, and 47333 as added by 1995 PA 57,
section 44524 as amended by 2012 PA 249, and
section 47327 as amended by 2020 PA 385.
Richard Williamson, representing the Office of Senator Shink, testified in support of SB 441.
Scott Everett, representing the Michigan Fish Producers Association, testified in opposition
of SB 441. Questions and discussion followed.
Bill Winowiecki, representing the Michigan Charter Boat Association, testified in opposition
of SB 441.
Taylor Ridderbusch, Dave Caroffino, and Randy Claramunt, all representing the Michigan
Department of Natural Resources, testified in support of SB 441. Questions and discussion
followed.
The committee returned to consideration of HB 4832.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4832, but did not wish to speak:
Sydney Hart and Jerrod Sanders, representing the Michigan Department of Environment,
Great Lakes, and Energy.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4832, but did not wish to speak:
Peter Ruddell, representing Honigman LLP.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4832. The motion prevailed 8-1-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin.
Nays: Rep. Schriver.
Pass: None.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 4832 with recommendation, as substitute (H-3).
The motion prevailed 6-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz.
Nays: Rep. Schriver.
Pass: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Pohutsky adjourned the meeting
at 10:55 AM.
Representative Laurie Pohutsky, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS SUBCOMMITTEE ON
HOUSING
REP. KEVIN COLEMAN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 12, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Economic Development and Small Business Subcommittee on Housing was
called to order by Chair Coleman.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou, Aragona,
Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5029, HB 5030, HB 5031, HB 5032 and HB 5033 before the committee:
HB 5029
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1945 PA 200, entitled "An act to
define a marketable record title to an interest in
land; to require the filing of notices of claim of
interest in such land in certain cases within a
definite period of time and to require the recording
thereof; to make invalid and of no force or effect
all claims with respect to the land affected thereby
where no such notices of claim of interest are filed
within the required period; to provide for certain
penalties for filing slanderous notices of claim of
interest, and to provide certain exceptions to the
applicability and operation thereof," by amending
section 4 (MCL 565.104), as amended by 2022 PA
235.
HB 5030
(Rep. Coffia)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 30 (MCL 125.1430), as
amended by 1982 PA 506.
HB 5031
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 21 (MCL 125.1421), as
amended by 2000 PA 257.
HB 5032
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 44 (MCL 125.1444), as
amended by 2017 PA 127.
HB 5033
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 22 (MCL 125.1422), as
amended by 2012 PA 327.
Amy Hovey, Clarence Stone, and Jeff Sykes, representing the Michigan State Housing
Development Authority, testified in support of HB 5029, HB 5030, HB 5031, HB 5032, and
HB 5033.
Dan Grzywacz, representing the Michigan Mortgage Lenders Association, testified in support
of HB 5030, HB 5031, and HB 5032.
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan, testified in support
of HB 5032. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair invited Jonathan Evans, representing people experiencing homelessness, to give a
presentation on Housing Issues in Michigan.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5029, HB 5030, HB
5031, HB 5032 and HB 5033, but did not wish to speak:
Kyle Richard, representing the Rent is Too Damn High.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5029, HB 5030, HB 5031, HB 5032
and HB 5033, but did not wish to speak:
Henry Wolf, representing Traverse Connect and the Northern Michigan Chamber
Alliance.
Nikki Devitt, representing the Petoskey Regional Chamber.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5032, but did not wish to speak:
Alex Morris, representing the Michigan Bankers.
Brad Ward, representing the Michigan Realtors.
There being no further business before the subcommittee, Chair Coleman adjourned the
meeting at 10:51 AM.
Representative Kevin Coleman, Chair
Nicholas Gewirtz
Acting Committee Clerk
ngewirtz@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 12, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
October 12, 2023, at 12:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4520 (S-1) (Rep. Mueller).
2. Testimony regarding HB 4521 (S-1) (Rep. Breen).
3. Testimony regarding HB 4021 (Rep. VanderWall).
4. Reported HB 4644 (Rep. Hope) with recommendation.
5. Reported HB 4645 (Rep. Haadsma) with recommendation.
6. Reported HB 4646 (Rep. Haadsma) with recommendation.
7. Reported SB 410 (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:35 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up the (S-1) versions of HB’s 4520 and 4521, and invited Rep.(s) Mueller and Breen to
summarize the bills.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4520. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4521. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4520 (S-1) and 4521 (S-1):
Christy Snitgen, MI Collage of Emergency Physicians – Support
Pamela Coffey MD, MI College of Emergency Physicians – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4520 (S-1) and 4521 (S-1):
Megan Blue, Corewell Health - Support
Meghann Keit-Corrion, Universal Health Services – Support
Sam Champagne, Henry Ford Health – Support
Sean Gehle, Trinity Health Michigan – Support
Dawn Kettinger, MI Nurses Association – Support
Kate Dorsey, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Adam Carlson, MI Health and Hospital Association – Support
The Chair brought up HB 4021, and invited Jordan Jorritsma of Rep. VanderWalls’ office to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony regarding HB 4021:
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs’ Association – Support
The Chair brought up HB’s 4644 – 4646.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4644 to the floor with the recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4645 to the floor with the recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4646 to the floor with the recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB 410.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 410:
Bruce Timmons, Citizen – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB 410:
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Tiffany Ellis, Michigan Association for Justice – Support
Kaci Pellar, Detroit Disability Power – Support
Kris Kraft, Blue Cross Blue Shield Michigan – Support
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Oppose
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 410 to the floor with the recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:10 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/19/2023


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MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 12, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Thursday, October 12, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in
the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentations regarding the Unemployment Insurance Agency.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:36 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding the Unemployment Insurance
Agency:
Rachael Wineland and Todd Cook, Michigan Department of Labor and Economic Opportunity – No
Position
Rachel Richards, Michigan League of Public Policy
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association
Amy Traub, National Employment Law Project
Robert Joerg, Michigan Laborers District Council
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:52 a.m.
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MEMBERS:
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR MALLORY MCMORROW
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2523
FAX: (517) 373-5669
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 12, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Community Development was scheduled for Thursday,
October 12, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 579 (Sen. Singh), SB 580 (Sen. Cavanagh) and SB 581 (Sen. Singh).
2. Testimony regarding SB 559 (Sen. McMorrow), SB 560 (Sen. Cavanagh), SB 562 (Sen. Cavanagh)
and SB 561 (Sen. McMorrow).
3. Testimony regarding SB 569 (Sen. Moss).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:00 noon. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet,
Moss, Geiss, Victory, Lindsey and Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Senator Singh and Senator Cavanagh to summarize Senate Bills 579, 580 and 581. Member
questions followed.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 579, SB
580 and SB 581:
James Hohman, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposed
Brian Shoaf, Detroit Regional Chamber – Support
Karen Johnston, Toyota – Support
Mike Spence, Southeast MI Council of Governments – Support
Jen Rigterink, MML – Support
Amy Malmer, Metropolitan Affairs Coalition – Support
Chair McMorrow and Vice Chair Cavanagh summarized Senate Bills 559, 560, 561 and 562. Member questions
followed.
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The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 559, SB 560, SB 562 and SB
561:
Jared Fleisher, Rochet Mortgage – Support
Jennifer Hayes and Germaine Rufin, Invest Detroit – Support
Jen Rigterink, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 559, SB
560, SB 562 and SB 561:
Barb Farrah on behalf of Detroit Mayor Duggan, GCSI - Support SB 559
Ryan Hundt, Michigan Works Association - Support SB 559
James Hohman, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposed
Amy Malmer, Metropolitan Affairs Coalition – Support
Jen Rigterink, MML – Support
Mike Spence, Southeast MI Council of Governments – Support
Karen Johnston, Toyota – Support
Leah Robinson, Michigan Chamber of Commerice - No position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 569:
Tim Lanholz, NFIB – Opposition
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:24 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 19, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 17, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Young moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 471, SB 472 and SB 528 before the committee:
SB 471
(Sen. Chang)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 224f
(MCL 750.224f), as amended by 2014 PA 4.
SB 472
(Sen. Chang)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 16m
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.16m), as amended by
2023 PA 22.
SB 528
(Sen. Shink)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending sections 115,
145n, 377a, 380, 411h, and 540e (MCL 750.115,
750.145n, 750.377a, 750.380, 750.411h, and
750.540e), section 115 as amended by 2000 PA
148, section 145n as amended by 2016 PA 480,
sections 377a and 380 as amended by 1998 PA
311, section 411h as amended by 1997 PA 65, and
section 540e as amended by 2002 PA 577.
Senator Chang and Senator Shink testified together in support of SB 471, SB 472 and SB
528. Questions and discussion followed.
Trooper Kristina Droste, representing the Michigan State Police, testified in support of SB
471, SB 472 and SB 528. Questions and discussion followed.
Heath B. Lowrey, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence,
testified in support of SB 471, SB 472 and SB 528.
Robyn Liddell, Linus Banghart-Linn, and Ashley Steffen, all representing the Michigan
Department of Attorney General, testified in support of SB 471 and SB 472.
Tom Lambert, representing Michigan Open Carry, testified in opposition to SB 471, SB 472
and SB 528.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 471, SB 472 and SB 528, but did not
wish to speak:
Megan Reynolds, representing the Michigan Poverty Law Program - Family Law
Domestic Violence.
M. Jane O'Shea, representing herself.
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan.
Jess Averill, representing the Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and
Treatment Board.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 471 and SB 472, but did not wish to
speak:
Sean Holihan, representing Giffords.
Matt Black, representing the Michigan Academy of Family Physicians.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to SB 471:
1. Amend page 3, line 13, after the first "of" by striking out "8" and inserting "3".
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to SB 471. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Breen moved to report out SB 471 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Filler.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report out SB 472 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Filler.
Representative Filler offered the following amendments to SB 528:
1. Amend page 2, line 14, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
2. Amend page 2, line 16, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
3. Amend page 4, line 13, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
4. Amend page 4, line 19, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
5. Amend page 6, line 18, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
6. Amend page 6, line 20, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
7. Amend page 7, line 8, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
8. Amend page 7, line 10, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
9. Amend page 9, line 27, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
10. Amend page 9, line 29, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
11. Amend page 10, line 18, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
12. Amend page 10, line 20, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
13. Amend page 13, line 23, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous
10 years".
14. Amend page 13, line 25, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
15. Amend page 16, line 4, after "relationship" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
16. Amend page 16, line 6, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10
years".
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendments to SB 528. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 528. The motion
prevailed 8-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Filler.
Representative Andrews moved to report out SB 528 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 9-0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
The Chair laid HB 5046 before the committee:
HB 5046
(Rep. Shannon)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section 2543
(MCL 600.2543), as amended by 2004 PA 328.
Jacqueline A. Reed, representing the Michigan Electronic Court Reporters Association,
testified in support of HB 5046.
Samantha Gibson, representing the Michigan Association of Counties, testified in support of
HB 5046.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5046, but did not wish to speak:
Kara Van Dam, representing the Michigan Association of Freelance Court Reporters.
Judge Kim Wiegand, representing the Michigan District Judges Association.
Theresa Stevens, representing the Michigan Association of Freelance Court Reporters.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5046. The motion prevailed 13-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Breen moved to report out HB 5046 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5017 before the committee:
HB 5017
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to amend 1953 PA 232, entitled
"Corrections code of 1953," by amending section
83 (MCL 791.283), as amended by 2016 PA 344.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5017, but did not wish to speak:
Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Representative Arbit offered the following amendments to HB 5017:
1. Amend page 1, line 6, after "court" by striking out the balance of the line through
"offense" on line 1 of page 2 and inserting "for a qualifying event".
2. Amend page 2, following line 24, by inserting:
"(4) As used in this section, "qualifying event" means the resentencing required by
Miller v Alabama, 567 US 460 (2012), Montgomery v Louisiana, 577 US 190 (2016),
People v Parks, 510 Mich 225 (2022), or People v Stovall, 510 Mich 301 (2022).".
Representative Arbit moved to adopt the amendments to HB 5017. The motion prevailed 13-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report HB 5017 as amended, as substitute (H-1). The
motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou,
Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
9:58 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS
REP. JASON M HOSKINS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 17, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Economic Development and Small Business was called to order by
Chair Hoskins.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Absent: Rep. Whitsett.
Excused: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative Coffia joined the committee remotely.
The Chair laid HB 5096 before the committee:
HB 5096
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1996 PA 376, entitled "Michigan
renaissance zone act," by amending sections 3, 4,
6, and 8a (MCL 125.2683, 125.2684, 125.2686,
and 125.2688a), sections 3 and 8a as amended by
2010 PA 277, section 4 as amended by 2014 PA
27, and section 6 as amended by 2016 PA 118.
Representative Grant and Josh Hundt, Michigan Economic Development Corporation
Executive VP of Strategy, testified in support of HB 5096.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5096, but did not wish to speak:
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5096, but did not wish to speak:
Michael LaFaive, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The Chair laid HB 5099, HB 5100, HB 5101 and HB 5102 before the committee:
HB 5099
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled "Michigan
strategic fund act," by amending the title and
section 9 (MCL 125.2009), the title as amended by
2005 PA 225 and section 9 as amended by 2021
PA 136, and by adding chapter 8F.
HB 5100
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
sections 277 and 677.
HB 5101
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
sections 277a and 677a.
HB 5102
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
sections 277b and 677b.
Representative Martus and Tyler Rossmaessler, Executive Director of Flint and Genesee
Economic Alliance, testified in support of HBs 5099, 5100, 5101, and 5102. Questions and
discussion followed.
Representative Hood, Chad Bassett, COO at BAMF Health, and Dr. Anthony Chang, Founder
and CEO of BAMF Health, testified in support of HBs 5099, 5100, 5101, and 5102.
Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Rogers, Stephen Rapundalo, PhD, President and CEO of Michigan Bioscience
Industry, and Anna Langerveld, PhD, President and CEO of Genemarkers, testified in support
of HBs 5099, 5100, 5101, and 5102. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Puri testified in support of HBs 5099, 5100, 5101, and 5102.
Jeff Stoutenburg, Dow Chemical, testified on HBs 5099, 5100, 5101, and 5102.
Mike Johnston, Michigan Manufacturers Association, testified in support of HBs 5099, 5100,
5101, and 5102.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5099, HB 5100, HB
5101 and HB 5102, but did not wish to speak:
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5099, HB 5100, HB 5101 and HB
5102, but did not wish to speak:
Karen Johnston, representing Toyota.
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Amy Malmer, representing the Metropolitan Affairs Coalition.
Lilly Melander, representing the Biotechnology Innovation Organization.
Bree Anderson, representing the Michigan Economic Development Corporation.
Alex Morris, representing the Michigan Bankers.
Meghann Keit, representing Steelcase.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5099, HB 5100, HB 5101 and HB
5102, but did not wish to speak:
Leah Robinson, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
Marcus Keech, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber.
Michael LaFaive, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Representative Miller moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Grant moved to excuse Representative Whitsett from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hoskins adjourned the meeting
at 10:27 AM.
Representative Jason Hoskins, Chair
Nicholas Gewirtz
Committee Clerk
ngewirtz@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
REP. MATT KOLESZAR
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 17, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Education was called to order by Chair Koleszar.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela, Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Wendzel, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representatives Shannon, Paquette and Wendzel joined the committee remotely.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid a presentation from small and rural school superintendents before the
committee.
Matt Schueller, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents and
Administrators, was joined by Stephanie Long, from Leland Public Schools, Greg Nyen,
EdD, from Marquette-Alger Regional Educational Service Agency, Katy Xenakis-Makowski,
from Johannesburg-Lewiston Area Schools, and Dr. Katherine Bertolini, from Maple Valley
Schools. All gave a presentation on small and rural school districts. Questions and discussion
followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Koleszar adjourned the meeting
at 10:13 AM.
Representative Matt Koleszar, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 17, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Smit moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5141, HB 5142, HB 5143, HB 5144 and HB 5145 before the committee:
HB 5141
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 388, entitled "Michigan
campaign finance act," by amending section 47
(MCL 169.247), as amended by 2015 PA 269, and
by adding section 59.
HB 5142
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 11e
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.11e), as amended by
2017 PA 120.
HB 5143
(Rep. Bierlein)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 388, entitled "Michigan
campaign finance act," by amending section 2
(MCL 169.202), as amended by 2001 PA 250.
HB 5144
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," (MCL 168.1 to 168.992) by adding
section 932f.
HB 5145
(Rep. Arbit)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 11d
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.11d), as amended by
2023 PA 83.
At 10:35 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:35 AM, Majority Vice Chair Wegela called the committee back to order.
Representative Tsernoglou, Representative Bierlein, and Representative Arbit testified in
support of HB 5141, HB 5142, HB 5143, HB 5144 and HB 5145. Questions and discussion
followed.
At 11:13 AM, Majority Vice Chair Wegela laid the committee at ease.
At 11:14 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Robert Weissman, representing Public Citizen, testified in support of HB 5141, HB 5142, HB
5143, HB 5144 and HB 5145. Questions and discussion followed.
Ricky Servantez Bicknell, representing Voters Not Politicians, testified in support of HB
5141, HB 5142, HB 5143, HB 5144 and HB 5145.
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State, testified in support of HB 5141,
HB 5142, HB 5143, HB 5144 and HB 5145. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5141, HB 5142, HB 5143, HB
5144 and HB 5145, but did not wish to speak:
Sheri Ritchie, representing Michigan Fair Elections, Pure Integrity Michigan Elections,
StandUp Michigan, and The Freedom Alliance Project.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 5141 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Representative Koleszar moved to report out HB 5142 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Representative Wegela moved to report out HB 5143 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Representative Byrnes moved to report out HB 5144 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Representative Churches moved to report out HB 5145 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 11:50 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND SENIORS
REP. STEPHANIE A. YOUNG
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 17, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Families, Children and Seniors was called to order by Chair Young.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox,
Johnsen, Thompson.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4547 before the committee:
HB 4547
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1887 PA 128, entitled "An act
establishing the minimum ages for contracting
marriages; to require a civil license in order to
marry and its registration; to provide for the
implementation of federal law; and to provide a
penalty for the violation of this act," by amending
section 3 (MCL 551.103), as amended by 2006 PA
578.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4547. The motion prevailed
6-3-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell.
Nays: Reps. Fox, Johnsen, Thompson.
Pass: Rep. Wozniak.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 4547 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 6-3-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell.
Nays: Reps. Fox, Johnsen, Thompson.
Pass: Rep. Wozniak.
Ashley Steffen, the Attorney General's Legislative Director, and Scott Teter, the Attorney
General's Financial Crimes Division Chief, gave a presentation on the Elder Abuse Task
Force. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card wishing to provide testimony on the Elder Abuse Task
Force Presentation, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Jody White.
Cynthia Mifsud.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Young adjourned the meeting at
1:19 PM.
Representative Stephanie A. Young, Chair
Hazel Campbell-Crawley
Committee Clerk
hcrawley@house.mi.gov


location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR JEFF IRWIN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2406
FAX: (517) 373-5679
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 17, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Housing and Human Services was scheduled for Tuesday, October 17,
2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 474 (S-3) (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 475 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 476 (S-1) (Sen. Geiss) with recommendation.
4. Reported SB 477 (S-1) (Sen. Cavanagh) with recommendation.
5. Reported SB 593 (Sen. Geiss) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:07 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss,
Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Geiss to summarize SB 593.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-3) version of SB 474, an (S-1) version of SB 475, an (S-1) version of
SB 476, and an (S-1) version of SB 477.
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
SB 474 to SB 477:
Kyle Richard, The Rent is Too Damn High – Support
Sarah Hopkins, The Rent is Too Damn High – Support
Eileen McNeil, Citizens for Traditional Values – Oppose
Jessi Corson, Protect Life Michigan – Oppose
Twyla Nemeth, Protect Life Michigan – Oppose
Melinda Movius, Protect Life Michigan – Oppose
Christen Polo, Protect Life Michigan – Oppose
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Dr. Joann Smith, Citizen – Oppose
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
SB 474 to SB 477 and SB 593:
Katherine Bussard, Citizen – Oppose
Rebecca Mastee, Michigan Catholic Conference – Oppose
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the (S-3) version of SB 474. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report the (S-3) version of SB 474 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 475. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report the (S-1) version of SB 475 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 476. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report the (S-1) version of SB 476 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 477. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report the (S-1) version of SB 477 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report SB 593 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, and Geiss
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:16 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 31, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
SENATOR DAYNA POLEHANKI
CHAIR
310 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7350
FAX: (517) 373-9228
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 17, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education was scheduled for Tuesday, October 17, 2023, at 1:30 p.m., in
the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 395 (S-3) (Sen. Polehanki) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 396 (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation.
3. Testimony regarding SB 463 (Sen. Camilleri).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:34 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose
and Johnson, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 395 and
SB 396:
Ryan Sebolt, Michigan AFL-CIO – Support
Joanne Galloway, Center for Change Northern Michigan Advocacy – Support
Robert Joerg, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
Sheryl Kennedy, Michigan Department of Education – Opposition
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report the (S-3) version of SB 395 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, and McDonald Rivet.
Nays: Sen.(s) Damoose and Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report SB 396 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, and McDonald Rivet.
Nays: Sen.(s) Damoose and Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 463. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose, and Johnson.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 463:
Senator Darrin Camilleri – Support
Adam Majestic and Meghan Schmidbaner, Detroit Regional Chamber – Support
Ryan Fewins-Bliss, Michigan College Access Network – Support
Cyekeia Lee, Detroit College Access Network – Support
Sarah Gammans, Michigan Association of College Admission Counseling – Support
Adanna Smith, Michigan Association of College Admission Counseling – Support
Karie Ward, Fostering Success – Support
Kristin Rathje and Amanda Paulus, Michigan Teacher Leadership Collaboration – Support
Danelle Scott, Caledonia High School – Opposition
Onjila Odeneal, Institute for College Access and Success – Support
John Dignan, Wayne-Westland Community Schools District – Support
Kathleen Bruinsma and Russ Kavahluna, Michigan Community College Association – Support
Jametta Lilly, Detroit Parent Network – Support
Elizabeth Conroy and Jamie Hess, Michigan School Counselor Association – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 463:
Noah Smith, Michigan Association of School Psychologists – Opposition
Noah Smith, Michigan Association of School Social Workers – Opposition
Chad Wing, Eastern Michigan University – Support
Beth DeShone, GLEP Education Fund – Opposition
Lindsay Hiddleston, Michigan's Children – Support
Colby Spencer Cesaro, Michigan Independent Colleges and Universities – Support
Steven Betz, Lake Superior State University – Support
Matt Schueller, Michigan Association of Superintendents and Administrators – Opposition
Rodd Monts, SchoolHouse Connection – Support
Molly Macek, Mackinac Center – Opposition
Anita Martinez, Michigan Hispanic Collaborative – Support
Roger Curtis, Youth Solutions – Support
Ryan Hundt, Michigan Works Association – Support
John Kaczynski, Saginaw Valley State University – Support
Christina Felcyn, Resident – Opposition
Jennifer Smith, Michigan Association of School Boards – Opposition
Sheryl Kennedy, Michigan Department of Education – Opposition
Dan Eichinger, Ferris State University – Support
Brandy Johnson, Michigan Community College Association – Support
Peter Provenzano, Oakland Community College – Support
Christine Suave, Michigan Immigration Rights Center – Opposition
Paul Liabenow, MEMSPA – Opposition
Peter Spadafore, Michigan Alliance for Student Opportunity – Opposition
Greg Nyen, Marquette Alger RESA – Opposition
Bob Kefgen, Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals – Opposition
Dan O'Connor, Alcona Community Schools – Opposition
Katherine Bertillini, Maple Valley Schools – Opposition
William Chillman, Beal City Public Schools – Opposition
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Lou Steigerwald, Norway Vulcan Area Schools – Opposition
Katy Xanskis Makowski, Johannesburg Lewiston Public Schools – Opposition
Tom McKee, Rudyard Public Schools – Opposition
Chris Ming, Au Gres-Sims School District – Opposition
Scott Scoville, Farwell Schools – Opposition
Rob Vaught, DeTour Area Schools – Opposition
Daniel Hurley, Michigan Association of State Universities – Support
Jeff Cobb, Education Trust Midwest – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:23 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/24/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN CHERRY, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. KEVIN DALEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
AND AGRICULTURE
SENATOR SUE SHINK
CHAIR
4200 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2426
FAX: (517) 373-2964
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 17, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Natural Resources and Agriculture was scheduled for Tuesday, October
17, 2023, at 3:00 p.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SCR 11 (Sen. Shink).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:10 p.m.. Sh e instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Shink, Sen.(s) Cherry, Singh, Polehanki, Daley, Victory and Hoitenga, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
Chair Shink summarized SCR 11. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SCR 11:
Kelly Thayer, Keep U.P. Wild Coalition – Support
John Mueller, Keweenaw Mountain Lodge – Support
Catherine Andrews, Friends of the Land of Keweenaw – Support
Horst Schmidt, UP Environmental Coalition – Support
Elise Rosky, Keweenaw Youth for Climate Action, MTU student group – Support
Senator Edward McBroom, Senate District 38 – Opposed
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SCR 11:
George Graves, self – Opposed
Henry Schienebeck, Geat Lakes Timber Professionals Assoc. – Opposed
John McIntosh, self – Opposed
John Velat, self – Opposed
Jordan Hoover, self – Opposed
Kristin Ojamiemi, self – Support
Nancy and Al Warrent, self – Support
Ontonagon Board of Commissioners, Ontonagon County – Opposed
Ron Store, self – Opposed
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U.P. Sportsmen Alliance – Opposed
Sierra Club – Support
Jeff Ratcliffe, Keweenaw Economic Development Alliance – Opposed
Tim Lynott, Keweenaw Land Association – Opposed
State Representative Dave Prestin, 108th House District – Opposed
Jeffrey Towner, Laughing Whitefish Bird Alliance – Support
Nick Occhipinti, MI League of Conservation Voters – Support
Kall Morris Inc, Marquette, MI – Support
Sarah Monte, Marquette Food Co-op – Support
Garret Johnson, MI Nature Association – Support
Ginny Landgon, self – Opposed
Kayln Store, self – Opposed
Brandon Erickson, self – Opposed
Jeremy Applekamp, self – Opposed
Jeremy Wuorenmaa, Western UP Planning and Development Region – Opposed
Scott Everett, Lake States Lumber Association – Opposed
Representative Greg Markkanen, HD 110 – Opposed
Paul Anderson, City Manager, City of Ironwood – Opposed
Emily Smith, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:17 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 6, 2024
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 18, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123 before the committee:
HB 5120
(Rep. Aiyash)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
(MCL 460.1001 to 460.1211) by amending the
title and by adding part 8.
HB 5121
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 2006 PA 110, entitled "Michigan
zoning enabling act," by amending section 205
(MCL 125.3205), as amended by 2018 PA 366.
HB 5122
(Rep. Skaggs)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
(MCL 460.1001 to 460.1211) by amending the
title and by adding part 8.
HB 5123
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 2006 PA 110, entitled "Michigan
zoning enabling act," by amending section 205
(MCL 125.3205), as amended by 2018 PA 366.
Mark Fosdick representing the Cohoctah Township Supervisor testified in opposition to HB
5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Deborah Hopkinson representing the White River Township testified in opposition to HB
5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Herasanna Richards representing the Michigan Municipal League testified in opposition to
HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Robert Scott representing the Montcalm County testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121,
HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Donna Graham representing the Clinton County, Greenbush Township, Clinton County CIT
United testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Sandra Tannehill representing the Michigan resident testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB
5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Mike Brown representing the Michigan resident testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121,
HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Sarah Porter representing the Michigan resident testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121,
HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Clint Beach representing the Michigan resident testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121,
HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Dr. Wanda Iza representing the Ingham County citizens testified in opposition to HB 5120,
HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Jeremy Kwekel representing the Moncalm resident testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB
5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Madelyn Fata and Deena Bosworth representing the Michigan Association of Counties
testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Liosa Cook-Gordon representing the Michigan resident testified in opposition to HB 5120,
HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Kevon Martis representing the Our Home, Our Voice testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB
5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
The following people submitted a card with no position on HB 5120, but did not wish to
speak:
Norman Stephens, representing the Michigan resident.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5120 and HB 5122, but did not
wish to speak:
Shane Hernandez, representing the ABC of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5121, but did not wish to speak:
James Mantey, representing the Almer Charter Township.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123, but did not wish to speak:
Sharon Wurster, representing the Milan.
Kelly Treiber, representing the Williamston.
Theresa Owen, representing the Clinton County Citizens United ADMIN.
Peter Klein, representing the St. Johns.
Mike Pattullo, representing the Caro.
Harold Defever, representing the Ashley.
Kathleen Defever, representing the Ashley.
Melissa Gallop, representing the Wales Township.
Rich Witgen, representing the Perry.
Julie Murphy, representing the Carleton.
Mike Hafner, representing the Chesaning.
Erin Harman, representing the Howell.
Kelly Ralko, representing the Perry.
Richard Mee, representing the Yale.
Patrick Porter, representing the Milan.
Ruth Miller, representing the Blissfield.
Kevin Murphy, representing the Howard City.
Pamela Hemmes, representing the Greenville.
Olga Mancik, representing the Milan Township.
Jeffery Benore, representing the Erie Township.
Cheryl Majors, representing the Milan Township.
Jack Gregory, representing the Milan Township.
Rosemary Murphy, representing the Howard City.
Mark Bogi, representing the Milan Township.
LouAnn Mogg, representing the Rosebush.
Carmell Pattullo, representing the Caro.
Tammy Hafner, representing the Chesaning.
Lisa Brown, representing the Fowlerville.
Nanci Jennings, representing the Perry.
Jessica Kwekel, representing the Lakeview.
Susan Spitzley, representing the Portland.
Charlene Purchase, representing the Six Lakes.
Kenneth Purchase, representing the Six Lakes.
Larry Kindel, representing the St. Johns.
Catherine Bohacz, representing the Bronson.
Carol Nowek, representing the Sherwood.
Randy Nowak, representing the Sherwood.
Joann Haas, representing the Fowlerville.
Sue Deer Dembowski, representing the Grand Ledge.
Representative Joseph Fox, representing the 101st House District.
Representative Timmy Beson, representing the 96th House District.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Bruce Jennings, representing the Perry.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123, but did not wish to speak:
Carlee Knott, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Jessica Collingsworth, representing the NexAmp.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Eli Isaguille, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights.
Representative Andrews offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 18, following line 14, by inserting:
"(4) Commission approval of a certificate does not confer the power of eminent domain
and is not a determination of public convenience and necessity for the purposes of the
power of eminent domain.".
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion prevailed
17-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hill offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 12, line 10, after "construction." by inserting "For the purposes of this
subdivision, public benefits include, but are not limited to, expected tax revenue paid by
the energy facility to local taxing districts, payments to owners of participating
property, community benefits agreements, local job creation, and any contributions to
meeting identified energy, capacity, reliability, or resource adequacy needs of this state.
In determining any contributions to meeting identified energy, capacity, reliability, or
resource adequacy needs of this state, the commission may consider approved
integrated resource plans under section 6t of 1939 PA 3, MCL 460.6t, renewable energy
plans, annual electric provider capacity demonstrations under section 6w of 1939 PA 3,
MCL 460.6w, or other proceedings before the commission, at the applicable regional
transmission organization, or before the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission as
determined relevant by the commission.".
Representative Hill moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion prevailed 10-7-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: None.
Representative Hill offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 2, line 27, after "section" by striking out "226(4)" and inserting "226(5)".
2. Amend page 10, line 14, after "(1)" by inserting "When the commission determines
under section 225 that an application is complete, the applicant shall make a one-time
grant to each affected local unit for an amount determined by the commission but not
more than $75,000 per affected local unit and not more than $150,000.00 in total. Each
affected local unit shall deposit the grant in a local intervenor compensation fund to be
used to cover costs associated with participation in the contested case proceeding on the
application for a certificate.
(2)" and renumbering the remaining subsections.
3. Amend page 12, line 28, by striking out "(6)(g)" and inserting "(7)(f)".
Representative Hill moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion prevailed 10-4-
3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, Prestin.
Pass: Reps. BeGole, Greene, Schmaltz.
Representative Aragona offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 15, line 27, after "Sec. 227." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 16, following line 24, by inserting:
"(2) The applicant for a certificate must enter into a host community agreement with
each city, village, or township where the energy facility is located. The host community
agreement shall require that upon commencement of any operations, the energy facility
owner shall annually pay to the city, village, or township the sum of $3,000.00 per
megawatt of nameplate capacity within the local unit. The payments shall be used as
determined by said local unit for any police or fire public safety, parks and recreation,
or infrastructure. The host community agreement is legally binding. The host
community agreement and the annual payments required thereby shall continue until
the decommissioning of the energy facility. The commission shall enforce this
requirement.".
Representative Aragona moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion did not
prevail 7-2-8:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Churches.
Pass: Reps. Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Hill, MacDonell, McFall.
Representative Wendzel offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 19, line 1, after "facility." by inserting "This subsection does not apply to a
limitation or requirement if, after the issuance of the certificate, the legislative body of
the local unit of government adopts a resolution approving the application of the
limitation or requirement to the energy facility that is the subject of the certificate.".
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion did not
prevail 7-4-6:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Churches, MacDonell.
Pass: Reps. Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Hill, McFall.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 12, line 22, by striking out all of subdivision (e) and relettering the remaining
subdivision.
2. Amend page 12, line 28, by striking out "(6)(g)" and inserting "(6)(e)".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 12, line 18, by striking out all of subdivision (d) and relettering the remaining
subdivisions.
2. Amend page 12, line 28, by striking out "(6)(g)" and inserting "(6)(e)".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Prestin offered the following amendment to HB 5120:
1. Amend page 15, line 27, after "Sec. 227." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 16, following line 24, by inserting:
"(2) The applicant for a certificate must enter an agreement with the commission and
each affected local unit on the size and location of the energy project within that
affected local unit.".
Representative Prestin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5120. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
At 9:57 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:57 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Neeley moved to report House Bill No. 5120 as amended, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 9-7-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative Churches moved to report out HB 5121 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-7-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative Wendzel offered the following amendment to HB 5122:
1. Amend page 16, line 26, after "facility." by inserting "This subsection does not apply to a
limitation or requirement if, after the issuance of the certificate, the legislative body of
the local unit of government adopts a resolution approving the application of the
limitation or requirement to the energy facility that is the subject of the certificate.".
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5122. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
At 10:01 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:02 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to HB 5122:
1. Amend page 11, line 27, by striking out all of subdivision (e) and relettering the remaining
subdivision.
2. Amend page 12, line 4, by striking out "(6)(g)" and inserting "(6)(e)".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5122. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to HB 5122:
1. Amend page 11, line 23, by striking out all of subdivision (d) and relettering the remaining
subdivisions.
2. Amend page 12, line 4, by striking out "(6)(g)" and inserting "(6)(e)".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5122. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Prestin offered the following amendment to HB 5122:
1. Amend page 13, line 23, after "Sec. 227." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 14 following line 20, by inserting:
"(2) The applicant for a certificate must enter an agreement with the commission and
each affected local unit on the size and location of the energy project within that
affected local unit.".
Representative Prestin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5122. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
At 10:04 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:05 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 5122 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-7-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: Rep. Whitsett.
At 10:06 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:06 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative MacDonell moved to report out HB 5123 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-7-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: Rep. Whitsett.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
10:07 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: October 25,
2023


location: Room 307, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
REP. TULLIO LIBERATI
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 18, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Committee on Government Operations was called to order by Chair Liberati.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall, Posthumus, Greene.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative McFall moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Posthumus moved to lay HR 146 before the committee.The motion did not
prevail 2-3-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Nays: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4720 and HB 4721 before the committee:
HB 4720
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to provide for the statewide coordination of
equal language access to state services by
individuals with limited English proficiency; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to establish
a process for submitting complaints and obtaining
remedies for lack of equal language access and for
denials of equal access based on one's national
origin.
HB 4721
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to facilitate access to state services by
individuals with limited English proficiency; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to provide
for biennial reports concerning equal language
access.
Representative Pohutsky moved to report out HB 4720 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 4721 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Liberati adjourned the meeting
at 12:06 PM.
Representative Tullio Liberati, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 18, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Edwards joined the committee remotely.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4863 and HB 4864 before the committee:
HB 4863
(Rep. Haadsma)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 224, entitled "Powers of
appointment act of 1967," by amending sections
5a and 14 (MCL 556.115a and 556.124), section
5a as added and section 14 as amended by 2012
PA 485.
HB 4864
(Rep. Wozniak)
A bill to amend 1988 PA 418, entitled "Uniform
statutory rule against perpetuities," by amending
sections 3 and 5 (MCL 554.73 and 554.75),
section 5 as amended by 2011 PA 11.
Representative Wozniak testified in support of HB 4863 and HB 4864. Questions and
discussion followed.
James Spica, representing the Probate and Estate Planning Section of the State Bar of
Michigan, testified in support of HB 4863 and HB 4864. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
11:02 AM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov