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MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
September 28, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
September 28, 2023, at 12:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4516 (Rep. Coffia) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4420 (Rep. Rogers) with recommendation.
3.
Reported HB 4421 (Rep. Young) with recommendation.
4.
Reported HB 4422 (Rep. Filler) with recommendation.
5.
Reported HB 4423 (Rep. VanWoerkom) with recommendation.
6.
Reported SB 418 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
7.
Reported SB 419 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
8.
Reported SB 420 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
9.
Reported SB 421 (S-1) (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation.
10.
Reported SB 422 (S-1) (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation.
11.
Reported SB 423 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation.
12.
Reported SB 424 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
13.
Reported SB 425 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
14.
Reported SB 426 (Sen. Wojno) with recommendation.
15.
Reported SB 427 (S-1) (Sen. McMorrow) with recommendation.
16.
Reported SB 428 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
17.
Reported SB 429 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
18.
Reported SB 430 (S-1) (Sen. Geiss) with recommendation.
19.
Reported SB 431 (S-1) (Sen. Moss) with recommendation.
20.
Reported SB 432 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation.
21.
Reported SB 433 (Sen. Johnson) with recommendation.
22.
Reported SB 434 (Sen. McCann) with recommendation.
23.
Reported SB 435 (Sen. Polehanki) with recommendation.
24.
Reported SB 436 (Sen. Damosse) with recommendation.
25.
Reported SB 437 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
26.
Reported SB 471 (S-2) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
27.
Reported SB 472 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
28.
Reported SB 528 (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
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The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:08 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from September 21, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4516.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4516:
Mike McCoy, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians - Support
Jess Averill, MI Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support
David M. Arroyo, Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians – Support
Chardae Burton, MI Department of Health and Human Services – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4516 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB’s 4420-4423.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4420-4423:
Nathan Triplett, State Bar of Michigan – Support HB 4421 and HB 4423
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4420 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4421 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4422 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4423 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB’s 418-437.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 418-437:
Tom Hickson, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support SB418, 424-437
Samantha Gibson, Michigan Association of Counties – Support
Lois Pullano, Citizens for Prison Reform – Support
Trevor VanDyke, Supreme Court Administrative Office – Support
Nathan Triplett, State Bar of Michigan – Support SB’s 418-425, 428-431
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights Michigan – Support SB’s 418,419, 421, 422, 423, 427-437
Chardae Burton, MI Department of Health and Human Services – Support SB’s 418-424, 426-427
Thom Lattig, MI Association for Family Court Administration – Support
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Support SB’s418, 420-427
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Oppose SB 419
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 418. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Johnson moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 418 (S-1) passed. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the vote was reconsidered.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 419. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 419 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 420. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 420 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 421. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 421 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 418. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 422. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 422 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 423. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 423 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 424. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 424 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 425. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
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Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 425 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 426 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 427. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 427 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 428. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 428 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 429. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 429 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 430. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 430 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 431. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 431 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 425. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 425 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to the (S-1) version of SB 432.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-1) version of SB 432. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 432. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 432 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 433 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 434 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 435 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 436 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 437 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair brought up SB’s 471-472, and SB 528.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB’s 471-472, and SB 528:
Tom Lambert, Michigan Open Carry – Oppose
Brenden Boudreau, Great Lakes Gun Rights – Oppose
Heath Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic & Sexual Violence - Support
Celeste Kanpurawalg, Moms Demand Action – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 471-472, and SB 528:
Linda Danders, Moms Demand Action - Support
Jess Averill, MI Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support
Trooper Kristina Droste, Michigan State Police – Support
Matt Black, Michigan Academy of Family Physicians – Support
Scott Jones, National Rifle Association – Oppose
The following cards were submitted during the September 14, 2023 committee hearing. Due to time constrains
the cards were unable to be read in at that time. These cards were recorded in the meeting minutes from that
hearing.
Steve Prange, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Kelly Dillaha, Red Wine and Blue – Support
Rani Asava, Students Demand Action – Support
Saylor Reinders, Students Demand Action – Support
Aaron Rusch, YWCA Kalamazoo – Support SB 471
Celeste Kampurwala, Moms Demand Action – Support
Pastor Aqeel T. Ash-Shakoor, Voices of Color – Support
Megan Reynolds, MI Poverty Law Program – Support
Lauren Jasinski, MI Education Association – Support
Bessie Roper, Moms Demand Action – Support
Ryan Bates, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Sheriff Mike Bouchard, Oakland County – Neutral
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Lizbeth Estes, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support
Janet Prange, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support
Brady Sckickinger, MI Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners – Oppose
Catherine Marshall, Self – Support
Teanesha Ash-Shakoor, Voices of Color
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 471.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 471. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 471. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 471 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 472 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 528 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:23 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/05/2023
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location: Room 519, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 3, 2023
9:24 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, BeGole.
Absent: Reps. Bezotte, Harris.
Excused: Reps. Bezotte, Harris.
Representative Young joined the committee remotely.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4850 before the committee:
HB 4850
(Rep. Glanville)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section
1307a (MCL 600.1307a), as amended by 2020 PA
307.
Representative Glanville testified in support of HB 4850. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4850, but did not wish to speak:
Nathan Triplett, representing the State Bar of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4948 and HB 4960 before the committee:
HB 4948
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 348, entitled "An act to
regulate relationships between landlords and
tenants relative to rental agreements for rental
units; to regulate the payment, repayment, use and
investment of security deposits; to provide for
commencement and termination inventories of
rental units; to provide for termination
arrangements relative to rental units; to provide
for legal remedies; and to provide penalties,"
(MCL 554.601 to 554.616) by amending the title
and by adding section 2a.
HB 4960
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 453, entitled "Elliott-
Larsen civil rights act," by amending section 205a
(MCL 37.2205a), as amended by 1999 PA 202.
Representative Snyder and Representative Grant testified in support of HB 4948 and HB
4960. Questions and discussion followed.
Liz Balck representing the ACLU-MI testified in support of HB 4948 and HB 4960.
Erica Edwards representing the herself testified in support of HB 4948 and HB 4960.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4948 and HB 4960, but did not wish
to speak:
John Cooper, representing the Safe and Just Michigan.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Noah Smith, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan.
Tony Gant, representing the Nation Outside.
Aaron Van Langevelde, representing the Michigan Department of Attorney General.
At 9:27 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:28 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4945 and HB 4946 before the committee:
HB 4945
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 16m
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.16m), as amended by
2023 PA 22.
HB 4946
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 224f
(MCL 750.224f), as amended by 2014 PA 4.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4945 and HB 4946, but did not wish
to speak:
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Aaron Van Langevelde, representing the Michigan Department of Attorney General.
Sean Holihan, State Legislative Director, representing Giffords.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4945 and HB 4946, but due to the
time constraints were unable to speak:
Tom Lambert, representing the Michigan Open Carry.
Brenden Boudreau, representing the Great Lakes Gun Rights.
Representative Breen moved to report out HB 4945 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Rep. Mueller.
Pass: Reps. Filler, BeGole.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to HB 4946:
1. Amend page 3, line 16, after the first "of" by striking out "8" and inserting "3".
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4946. The motion did not prevail
3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to HB 4946:
1. Amend page 5, line 12, after "person" by inserting "within the previous 10 years".
2. Amend page 5, line 15, after the first "resident" by inserting "of the convicted person's
household,".
3. Amend page 5, line 16, after "household" by inserting "within the previous 10 years".
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4946. The motion did not prevail
3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Andrews offered the following amendment to HB 4946:
1. Amend page 3, line 22, after "probation" by striking out "or parole".
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4946. The motion prevailed
10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou, Filler,
Mueller, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report House Bill No. 4946 as amended, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Rep. Mueller.
Pass: Reps. Filler, BeGole.
The Chair laid HB 4718 before the committee:
HB 4718
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," (MCL 760.1 to 777.69) by
adding section 21d to chapter VIII.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4718, but did not wish to speak:
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Heath B. Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual
Violence.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 4718 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, BeGole.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to excuse Representatives Bezotte and Harris from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
9:36 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS
REP. JASON M HOSKINS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 3, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Economic Development and Small Business was called to order by
Chair Hoskins.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Absent: Rep. Whitsett.
Excused: Rep. Whitsett.
The Chair laid HB 4978 before the committee:
HB 4978
(Rep. Roth)
A bill to amend 1982 PA 162, entitled "Nonprofit
corporation act," by amending section 123 (MCL
450.2123), as amended by 2014 PA 557.
Representative Grant moved to refer HB 4978 to the Committee on Local Government and
Municipal Finance. The motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None
The Chair laid SB 293 before the committee:
SB 293
(Sen. McDonald Rivet)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending sections 58, 58b, and 58c (MCL
125.1458, 125.1458b, and 125.1458c), sections 58
and 58c as amended by 2008 PA 216 and section
58b as amended by 2008 PA 244.
Representative Miller moved to report out SB 293 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, St. Germaine.
Pass: Rep. Roth.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 293, but did not wish to speak:
Ryan Knight, representing the Michigan Realtors.
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan.
Mark Garcia, representing the Michigan State Housing Development Authority.
Chair Hoskins read a letter referring HB 5019, HB 5029, HB 5030, HB 5031, HB 5032, and
HB 5033 to the Economic Development and Small Business Subcommittee on Housing.
At 9:06 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:11 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4843 before the committee:
HB 4843
(Rep. Aiyash)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 331, entitled "Michigan
consumer protection act," by amending section 3
(MCL 445.903), as amended by 2022 PA 152, and
by adding section 3j.
Representative Aiyash testified in support of HB 4843. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4843, but did not wish to speak:
Brian O'Connell, representing General Motors.
James R. Ryan, representing the Michigan Fitness Club Association.
Representative Farhat moved to excuse Representative Whitsett from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Coffia moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hoskins adjourned the meeting
at 9:29 AM.
Representative Jason Hoskins, Chair
Nicholas Gewirtz
Committee Clerk
ngewirtz@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
REP. MATT KOLESZAR
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 3, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Education was called to order by Chair Koleszar.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela, Greene, Markkanen, Wendzel, Johnsen.
Absent: Rep. Paquette.
Excused: Rep. Paquette.
Representative Shannon moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4961 before the committee:
HB 4961
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to 380.1852) by
adding section 1159.
Representative Rogers introduced HB 4961.
Carlee Knott and Samantha Pickering, both representing the Michigan Environmental
Council, testified in support of HB 4961.
Amber Hejl representing the Kalamazoo Nature Center, testified in support of HB 4961.
Mia Breznau, a student from Mattawan High School, testified in support of HB 4961.
Representative Rogers, Carlee Knott, Samantha Pickering, Amber Heil, and Mia Breznau
answered questions from the committee on HB 4961.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4961, but did not wish to speak:
Nichole Fisher, representing the Michigan Recreation and Parks Association.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club of Michigan.
Natalie Jakub, representing Green Living Science.
Amber Hejl, representing the Kalamazoo Nature Center.
Mia Breznau, representing Mattawan High School.
Olivia J. Scheinker, representing Kalamazoo Central High School.
Elliot Spoelstra, representing Kalamazoo Central High School.
Kadence Philips, representing Kalamazoo Central High School.
Andie Reneau, representing Gull Lake High School.
James Hunsinger, representing Kalamazoo Central High Scholl.
Eddie Anderson, representing Kalamazoo Central High School.
Amo Kostrzewa, representing Kalamazoo Central High School.
Lily Hahn-Scott, representing Kalamazoo Central High School.
At 9:57 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:03 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 5021 before the committee:
HB 5021
(Rep. Koleszar)
A bill to amend 1980 PA 300, entitled "The public
school employees retirement act of 1979," by
amending section 81d (MCL 38.1381d), as
amended by 2017 PA 92.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5021, but did not wish to speak:
Dr. David Michelson, representing the Michigan Education Association.
Neil DeSouza, representing the Michigan Department of Technology, Management and
Budget- Office of Retirement Services.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5021, but did not wish to speak:
Beth DeShone, representing the Great Lakes Education Project Education Fund.
James Hohman, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Representative Weiss moved to report out HB 5021 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Wendzel, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
Representative Markkanen moved to excuse Representative Paquette from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Koleszar adjourned the meeting
at 10:05 AM.
Representative Matt Koleszar, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 3, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Smit moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4981 before the committee:
HB 4981
(Rep. BeGole)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending section 191 (MCL
168.191), as amended by 2018 PA 120.
Representative Begole testified in support of HB 4981. Questions and discussion followed.
Dan Pfannes, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association, testified in support of HB
4981. Questions and discussion followed.
Sherriff Anthony Wickersham, representing the Macomb County Sheriff's Office, testified in
support of HB 4981.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4981, but did not wish
to speak:
Sheri Ritchie, representing Pure Integrity Michigan Elections, Michigan Fair Elections,
StandUp Michigan, and the Freedom Alliance.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4981, but did not wish to speak:
Darlene Hennessy, representing the Election Integrity Network, Rescue MI, and
Michigan Fair Elections.
The Chair laid HB 4983, HB 4984, HB 4985 and HB 4986 before the committee:
HB 4983
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending sections 493a, 500a,
501, 509o, 509q, and 509r (MCL 168.493a,
168.500a, 168.501, 168.509o, 168.509q, and
168.509r), section 493a as added by 2018 PA 603,
sections 500a, 501, and 509r as amended by 2018
PA 125, section 509o as amended by 2022 PA 195,
and section 509q as amended by 2020 PA 302, and
by adding section 493b.
HB 4984
(Rep. Skaggs)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 307 (MCL
257.307), as amended by 2020 PA 376.
HB 4985
(Rep. Dievendorf)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 222, entitled "An act to
provide for an official personal identification card;
to provide for its form, issuance and use; to
regulate the use and disclosure of information
obtained from the card; to prescribe the powers
and duties of the secretary of state; to prescribe
fees; to prescribe certain penalties for violations;
and to provide an appropriation for certain
purposes," by amending section 1 (MCL 28.291),
as amended by 2021 PA 105.
HB 4986
(Rep. Wilson)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 23, entitled "Enhanced
driver license and enhanced official state personal
identification card act," by amending section 5
(MCL 28.305), as amended by 2021 PA 106.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4983, but did not wish to speak:
Eric Welsby, representing Detroit Disability Power.
Secure Democracy.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4983, HB 4984, HB 4985 and HB
4986, but did not wish to speak:
Darlene Hennessy, representing the Election Integrity Network, Rescue MI, and
Michigan Fair Elections.
Sheri Ritchie, representing Pure Integrity Michigan Elections, Michigan Fair Elections,
StandUp Michigan, and the Freedom Alliance.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4983. The motion prevailed 6-
2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 4983 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Koleszar moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4984. The motion prevailed
6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Byrnes moved to report out HB 4984 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Churches moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4985. The motion prevailed
6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Wegela moved to report out HB 4985 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4986. The motion prevailed 6-2-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Koleszar moved to report out HB 4986 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 11:07 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY REFORM
REP. TYRONE CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 3, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Regulatory Reform was called to order by Chair Tyrone Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Young joined the committee remotely.
Representative Liberati moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 179 and SB 180 before the committee:
SB 179
(Sen. Irwin)
A bill to amend 2018 IL 1, entitled "Michigan
Regulation and Taxation of Marihuana Act," by
amending section 14 (MCL 333.27964).
SB 180
(Sen. Hauck)
A bill to amend 2018 IL 1, entitled "Michigan
Regulation and Taxation of Marihuana Act," by
amending sections 3, 7, 8, 10, and 13 (MCL
333.27953, 333.27957, 333.27958, 333.27960,
and 333.27963), sections 3 and 8 as amended by
2021 PA 56.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 179 and SB 180, but did not wish to
speak:
Kevin McKinney, representing the Michigan Cannabis Industry Association.
Representative Grant moved to report out SB 179 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 14-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Grant, McFall, Snyder, Wilson,
Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Scott moved to report out SB 180 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 14-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Grant, McFall, Snyder, Wilson,
Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4865 before the committee:
HB 4865
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled "Michigan
liquor control code of 1998," by amending section
541 (MCL 436.1541), as amended by 2016 PA
434.
Representative Snyder explained the changes in substitute (H-1) to HB 4865. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4865, but did not wish
to speak:
David Marvin, representing the Michigan Liquor Control Commission.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4865, but did not wish to speak:
Jerry Griffen, representing the Midwest Independent Retailers Association.
Representative McFall moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4865. The motion prevailed
14-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Grant, McFall, Snyder, Wilson,
Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Neeley moved to report out HB 4865 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 14-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Grant, McFall, Snyder, Wilson,
Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4603 and HB 4604 before the committee:
HB 4603
(Rep. Liberati)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 306, entitled "An act to
promote the safety, welfare, and educational
interests of the people of this state by regulating
the construction, reconstruction, and remodeling
of, and the installation of certain security devices
at, certain public or private school buildings or
additions to those buildings and by regulating the
construction, reconstruction, and remodeling of,
and the installation of certain security devices at,
buildings leased or acquired for school purposes;
to define the class of buildings affected by this act;
to prescribe the powers and duties of certain state
agencies and officials; to prescribe penalties for
the violation of this act; and to repeal acts and
parts of acts," by amending sections 1, 1a, and 2
(MCL 388.851, 388.851a, and 388.852), section 1
as amended by 2004 PA 510 and section 2 as
amended by 2002 PA 627.
HB 4604
(Rep. Liberati)
A bill to amend 1980 PA 299, entitled
"Occupational code," by amending section 2010
(MCL 339.2010), as amended by 1992 PA 103.
Representative Liberati; Michael Livendale and Mark Titus, both representing PSI; testified
in support of HB 4603 and HB 4604. Questions and discussion followed.
Eric Morris, representing the American Council of Engineering Companies, testified in
opposition to HB 4603 and HB 4604.
Rob Wheeler, representing the Michigan Society of Professional Engineers, testified in
opposition to HB 4603 and HB 4604.
Jeff Ferweda, representing the AIA, testified in opposition to HB 4603 and HB 4604.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4603 and HB 4604, but did not
wish to speak:
Damian Hill, representing the Associated General Contractors.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4603, but did not wish to speak:
Pat Kreger, a retired Union City Community Schools superintendent.
Maryanne McMahon, retired school superintendent.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
The Chair laid HB 4048 before the committee:
HB 4048
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 239, entitled "McCauley-
Traxler-Law-Bowman-McNeely lottery act," by
amending section 25 (MCL 432.25), as amended
by 1998 PA 465.
Representative Outman testified in support of HB 4048. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4048, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Gallagher, representing the Michigan Lottery.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tyrone Carter adjourned the
meeting at 11:09 AM.
Representative Tyrone Carter, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 3, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Roth moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4845 before the committee:
HB 4845
(Rep. Bruck)
A bill to amend 2001 PA 142, entitled "Michigan
memorial highway act," (MCL 250.1001 to
250.2092) by adding section 103a.
Representative Kunse moved to report out HB 4845 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid SB 22 before the committee:
SB 22
(Sen. Damoose)
A bill to amend 1945 PA 327, entitled
"Aeronautics code of the state of Michigan," by
amending section 80f (MCL 259.80f), as added by
2001 PA 225.
Representative Bruck moved to report out SB 22 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5059 before the committee:
HB 5059
(Rep. Price)
A bill to amend 2001 PA 142, entitled "Michigan
memorial highway act," (MCL 250.1001 to
250.2092) by adding section 113.
Representative Price, joined by Pastor Dietrich Tupper and Linda Butler, all testified in support
of HB 5059. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Conlin moved to report out HB 5059 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5059, but did not wish to
speak:
Troy Hagon, representing the Michigan Department of Transportation.
The Chair laid SB 87 before the committee:
SB 87
(Sen. Moss)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 234 (MCL
257.234), as amended by 2002 PA 552.
Jennie Gies, representing the Office of State Senator Jeremy Moss, testified in support of SB 87.
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State, testified in support of SB 87.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 87, but did not wish to speak:
Kurt Berryman, representing the Auto Dealers of Michigan.
Executive Director Brett Stanton, Director of Engineering Chuck Mills, President of the Board of
Directors Gery Hartmann, and Vice-President Kirk Breukink, all representing the Asphalt
Pavement Association of Michigan, provided a presentation on the Asphalt Pavement
Association of Michigan and the Asphalt Industry. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting at
11:23 AM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

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MEMBERS:
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE
SENATOR ERIKA GEISS
CHAIR
5500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7800
FAX: (517) 373-9310
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 3, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was scheduled for Tuesday, October 3,
2023, at 3:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 533 (Sen. Geiss).
2. Testimony regarding SB 465 (Sen. Singh).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:31 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann,
Bellino, McBroom, Victory, and Bumstead, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the meeting minutes from September 19, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized SB 533.
The Chair invited Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to further summarize SB 533.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 533:
Karen Johnston, Toyota – Support
Daesean Ashby, Michigan Credit Union League – Support
The Chair invited Sen. Singh to summarize SB 465.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 465:
Adam Tountas, Michigan County Road Commission Self Insurance Pool – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 465:
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
Page 1 of 2
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:02 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 10, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
REP. REGGIE MILLER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 4, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Agriculture was called to order by Chair Miller.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans,
Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4857 before the committee:
HB 4857
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1941 PA 359, entitled "An act for
controlling and eradicating certain noxious weeds
within the state; to permit townships, villages, and
cities to have a lien for expenses incurred in
controlling and eradicating such weeds; to permit
officials of counties and municipalities to appoint
commissioners of noxious weeds; to define the
powers, duties, and compensation of
commissioners; to provide for sanctions; and to
repeal certain acts and parts of acts," by amending
section 2 (MCL 247.62), as amended by 2010 PA
358.
Representative Steckloff testified in support of HB 4857. Questions and discussion followed.
Marilyn Trent, representing the Pollinator Advocate, testified in support of HB 4857.
Nichole Keway Biber, representing the Anishinaabee Caucus, testified in support of HB
4857.
The following person submitted a card in support of , but did not wish to speak:
Dr. Phoebe Lehmann Zarnetske, representing the Department of Integrative Biology,
Michigan State University.
The Chair laid SB 148 and SB 149 before the committee:
SB 148
(Sen. Polehanki)
A bill to amend 1969 PA 224, entitled "An act to
license and regulate dealers in and research
facilities using dogs and cats for research
purposes; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 12 (MCL 287.392) and
by adding sections 11a and 12a.
SB 149
(Sen. Hertel)
A bill to amend 1969 PA 224, entitled "An act to
license and regulate dealers in and research
facilities using dogs and cats for research
purposes; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending the title and sections 1 and 7
(MCL 287.381 and 287.387) and by adding
section 8a.
Senator Hertel introduced the proposed substitute (H-2) to SB 149.
Representative Paiz moved to report out SB 148 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
8-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans.
Nays: Reps. VanderWall, Smit.
Pass: Reps. Neyer, Roth, Bierlein.
At 9:36 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:36 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to SB 149. The motion prevailed 8-1-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans.
Nays: Rep. Smit.
Pass: Reps. Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein.
Representative Young moved to report out SB 149 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 8-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans.
Nays: Reps. VanderWall, Smit.
Pass: Reps. Neyer, Roth, Bierlein.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Miller adjourned the meeting at
9:38 AM.
Representative Reggie Miller, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION
REP. CAROL GLANVILLE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 4, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Higher Education was called to order by Chair Glanville.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell,
Paiz, VanderWall, Paquette, Zorn, Bruck, DeSana.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Paquette joined the committee remotely.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 20, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4816 and HB 4844 before the committee:
HB 4816
(Rep. Wilson)
A bill to prohibit high schools and certain athletic
organizations from preventing high school student
athletes in this state from receiving compensation
for the use of their name, image, or likeness rights.
HB 4844
(Rep. Witwer)
A bill to amend 2020 PA 366, entitled "An act to
prohibit postsecondary educational institutions in
this state and certain athletic organizations from
preventing a college athlete from receiving
compensation for the use of his or her name,
image, or likeness rights," by amending sections 3,
5, 7, and 10 (MCL 390.1733, 390.1735, 390.1737,
and 390.1740).
Representative Koleszar moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4816. The motion prevailed
13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell, Paiz,
VanderWall, Zorn, Bruck, DeSana.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative MacDonell moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4844. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell, Paiz,
VanderWall, Zorn, Bruck, DeSana.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Witwer and Alexandra Breske, Michigan State University Assistant Athletic
Director, Risk Management and Policy Forward, testified in support of HB 4844. Questions
and discussion followed.
Representative Wilson testified in support of HB 4816. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4816, but did not wish to speak:
Bill Zaagman, representing the Michigan High School Athletic Association.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Glanville adjourned the meeting
at 10:57 AM.
Representative Carol Glanville, Chair
Nicholas Gewirtz
Committee Clerk
ngewirtz@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: October 11,
2023


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 4, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representatives Tyrone Carter and Arbit joined the committee remotely.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 248 before the committee:
SB 248
(Sen. Lauwers)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section
2163a (MCL 600.2163a), as amended by 2018 PA
343.
Josh Skrzypczak, from Senator Lauwers' office, testified in support of SB 248. Questions and
discussion followed.
Cortney Carl, representing Canine Advocates, testified with a neutral position on SB 248.
Questions and discussion followed.
Paula Nelson, representing West Michigan Therapy, testified in support of SB 248.
Dan Cojanu, representing Canine Advocates, testified in opposition to SB 248. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 248, but did not wish to speak:
Ann M. Griffin, representing the State Bar of Michigan Animal Law Section.
Ann M. Griffin, representing Michigan Humane.
Bee Freidlander, representing Attorneys for Animals, Inc.
Monica Martinez, representing the Michigan Judges Association.
Brandon Lanyon, representing the Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan.
Nathan Triplett, representing the State Bar of Michigan.
Heath B. Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual
Violence.
The Chair laid HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047 before the committee:
HB 4909
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5104, 5106, 5310, 5313, and 5409 (MCL
700.5104, 700.5106, 700.5310, 700.5313, and
700.5409), section 5106 as amended by 2017 PA
136, section 5310 as amended by 2000 PA 54,
section 5313 as amended by 2012 PA 545, and
section 5409 as amended by 2000 PA 463, and by
adding section 5106a.
HB 4910
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5305, 5314, 5406, 5417, and 5418 (MCL
700.5305, 700.5314, 700.5406, 700.5417, and
700.5418), section 5305 as amended by 2017 PA
155, section 5314 as amended by 2018 PA 594,
section 5406 as amended by 2000 PA 464, and
sections 5417 and 5418 as amended by 2000 PA
312, and by adding section 5314a.
HB 4911
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5303, 5304, 5306, 5306a, 5312, and 5416 (MCL
700.5303, 700.5304, 700.5306, 700.5306a,
700.5312, and 700.5416), section 5303 as
amended by 2017 PA 155, section 5306 as
amended by 2019 PA 170, section 5306a as added
by 2012 PA 173, and section 5312 as amended by
2000 PA 54.
HB 4912
(Rep. Borton)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5414 and 5415 (MCL 700.5414 and 700.5415) and
by adding section 5312a.
HB 5047
(Rep. Coffia)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending section
5106 (MCL 700.5106), as amended by 2017 PA
136, and by adding part 5A to article V.
Nicole Shannon and Alison Hirschel, both representing the Michigan Elder Justice Initiative,
testified together in support of HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Questions and discussion followed.
Salli Pung, representing the Michigan Long Term Care Ombudsman Program, testified in
support of HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047. Questions and discussion
followed.
Nathan Piwowarski, representing himself, testified in support of HB 4909, HB 4910, HB
4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Aaron Van Langevelde, representing the representing the Michigan Department of Attorney
General, and Scott Teter, representing the Elder Abuse Task Force, testified in support of HB
4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911 and HB
4912, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Phelan, representing the Alzheimer's Association.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4910 and HB 5047, but did not wish
to speak:
Alex Morris, representing the Michigan Bankers.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4909, HB 4910, HB
4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Lori Luoma, representing herself as a victim.
Cynthia Mifsud, representing her mother Betty Hayes.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB
4912 and HB 5047, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Pam Howe, representing herself as a victim of probate.
Tom Howe, representing himself as a victim of probate.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4909 and HB 4910, but
due to the time constraints was unable to speak:
Genevieve Marnon, representing Right to Life of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5047, but due to the
time constraints was unable to speak:
Jody White, representing victims and reform.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4911, but due to the time constraints
was unable to speak:
Sean Bennett, representing himself.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
11:40 AM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JOHN FITZGERALD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 4, 2023
11:45 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to order by
Chair Fitzgerald.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn,
Paquette, Bezotte, BeGole, Prestin.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Hill moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4675 before the committee:
HB 4675
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 2003 PA 258, entitled "Land bank
fast track act," by amending sections 4, 13, and 14
(MCL 124.754, 124.763, and 124.764).
Representative Breen moved to refer HB 4675 to the Committee on Tax Policy. The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Paiz, Zorn, Bezotte,
BeGole, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4679 before the committee:
HB 4679
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 94, entitled "The revenue
bond act of 1933," by amending section 18 (MCL
141.118), as amended by 1987 PA 229.
Representative Shannon moved to refer HB 4679 to the Committee on Tax Policy. The
motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Paiz, Zorn, Bezotte,
BeGole, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5048 before the committee:
HB 5048
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1974 PA 263, entitled "An act to
permit counties to impose and collect an excise
tax on persons engaged in the business of
providing rooms for dwelling, lodging, or sleeping
purposes to transient guests; to provide for the
disposition of the revenues thereof; and to
prescribe penalties," by amending the title and
sections 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7 (MCL 141.861,
141.862, 141.863, 141.864, 141.866, and
141.867), section 2 as amended by 2004 PA 118,
section 4 as amended by 2014 PA 284, and section
7 as amended by 1989 PA 13, and by adding
section 2a.
Representative Hoskins moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5048. The motion prevailed 9-
2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn.
Nays: Reps. BeGole, Prestin.
Pass: Rep. Bezotte.
At 11:49 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 11:49 AM, Majority Vice Chair Byrnes called the committee back to order.
Representative Fitzgerald testified in support of HB 5048. Questions and discussion
followed.
At 11:57 AM, Majority Vice Chair Byrnes laid the committee at ease.
At 11:57 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
John LaMacchia, representing the Urban Core Mayors and the Michigan Municipal League,
testified in support of HB 5048. Questions and discussion followed.
Karyn Ferrick and Commissioner Jon O'Connor, representing the City of Grand Rapids,
testified in support of HB 5048.
Rick Winn, representing the Grand Rapids CAA/DDA; and Josh Lunger, representing the
Grand Rapids Chamber; testified in support of HB 5048. Questions and discussion followed.
John McNamara, representing the Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association, testified in
opposition to HB 5048.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5048, but did not wish
to speak:
Rob Mass, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5048, but did not wish to speak:
Rusty Merchant, representing Grand Action 2.0.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Dick Stauffer, representing Lincoln Charter Township.
Darwin Watson, City Manager, representing the City of New Buffalo.
John Shay, City Manager, representing the City of Wyoming.
Connor Spalding, representing the City of Lansing.
John Fournier, representing the City of Ann Arbor.
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5048, but did not wish to speak:
Michael Zehnder, representing the Bavarian Inn.
Jamie Furbush, representing the Frankenmuth CVB.
Matt Sowash, representing the Michigan Association of Convention and Visitor Bureau.
Nate Love, representing the Mackinac Island CVB.
Sarah Miller, representing Destination Ann Arbor.
Tim Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
Representative Byrnes moved to report out HB 5048 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 7-3-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz.
Nays: Reps. Paquette, BeGole, Prestin.
Pass: Reps. Rogers, Zorn, Bezotte.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Fitzgerald adjourned the
meeting at 12:23 PM.
Representative John Fitzgerald, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. RICK OUTMAN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AND
EMERGENCY SERVICES
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 4, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Veterans and Emergency Services was scheduled for Wednesday,
October 4, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 388 (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 389 (S-1) (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:03 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB’s 388 and 389 (S-1).
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 388 to the floor with recommendation that the bill
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Outman to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 389. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to report SB 389 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that the
bill pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:06 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 11/01/2023


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MEMBERS:
SEN. JEREMY MOSS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, INSURANCE,
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
SENATOR MARY CAVANAGH
CHAIR
6500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7748
FAX: (517) 373-1387
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 4, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance, Insurance, and Consumer Protection was scheduled for
Wednesday, October 4, 2023, at 12:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 175 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4376 (Rep. Brenda Carter) with recommendation.
3. Testimony regarding SB 530 (Sen. Cavanagh) and SB 531 (Sen. Anthony).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:43 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis and
Daley, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 175. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McCann to report the (S-1) version of SB 175 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, and Huizenga.
Nays: Sen.(s) Theis and Daley.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to report HB 4376 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 530 and SB 531:
Sens. Mary Cavanagh and Sarah Anthony – Support
Tom Judd, Bill Buccalo, Margaret Kroese, Tom Judd, Michigan Brain Injury Provider Council – Support
Bob Mlynarek, 1st Call Home Healthcare – Support
Tammy Hannah, Origami Rehabilitation – Support
Wayne Miller, Michigan Association of Justice – Support
Maureen Howell, We Can't Wait – Support
Karen Amick, Quality Care Consulting – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to provide testimony before the committee
regarding SB 530 and SB 531:
Jared Fleisher, Rocket Companies – Opposition
Eric Poe, Cure Auto Insurance – Opposition
Erin McDonough and Dyck Vankoevering, Insurance Alliance of Michigan – Opposition
Dr. Owen Perlman, Resident – Support
Barry Cargill, Michigan Homecare and Hospice Association – Support
Laura Appel, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
Timothy Moore, Resident – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to provide testimony before the committee
regarding SB 530:
Margaret Kroese and Joe Haveman, Hope Network – Support
Jenna Worthy, Resident – Support
Michelle Selzer, Resident – Support
Nick Long, NeuroCare Home Health – Support
Tim Hoste, NeuroRestorative Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 530 and
SB 531:
Diane Mills-Gutierrez, Resident – Support
Teri Langley, Disability Network of Michigan – Support
Lisa Hepting Ellis, Nichole Shotwell, and Jenna Anheuser, Brain Injury Association of Michigan – Support
Laurie Oleksa, Resident – Support
Kate Dorsey, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Robert Stein, Michigan Assisted Living Association – Support
Barry Cargill, Michigan Homecare and Hospice Association – Support
Elizabeth DeLuca, EDS Care Management – Support
Mandy Bolter, Bronson Hospital – Support
Brian Gilbert, APTA Michigan – Support
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights MI – Support
John Zimmerman, Brightstar of Northern Michigan – Support
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Chris Miller, Brightstar of East Lansing – Support
Sherri Boyd, The Arc MI – Support
Taylor Barker, Resident – Support
Eric Reinarman, Homecare Association of America – Support
Carl Alden, Michigan Association of Chiropractors – Support
John Channery, Brightstar of Grosse Point – Support
Heidi Hepting, Resident – Support
Megan Blue, Corewell Health – Support
Larry Treece, Health Care Associates – Support
Julie Cassidy, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Brian Harrison and April Brown, AdvisaCare Home Health and Hospice – Support
Joseph Richert, SpeciaTree – Support
Mike Green, Lighthouse Rehab Center – Support
Kevin McKinney, Michigan Osteopathic Association – Support
Chanin Heise, Origami Rehabilitation – Support
Elmer Paschise, Resident – Support
Monica VanAcker, Resilibe Nevro – Support
Michael Van Beek, Mackinac Center – Opposition
Amanda Fisher, NFIB – Opposition
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
Craig Ryan, AAA – Opposition
Rob Anderson, Michigan Farm Bureau – Opposition
Matt Penniman, League of Michigan Bicyclists – Support
Eunice Mark, Resident – No Position
Michael Harris, Paralyzed Veterans of America – Support
Brad Uren, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 530 and
SB 531:
Lisa Hepting Ellis, Nichole Shotwell, and Jenna Anheuser, Brain Injury Association of Michigan – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:56 p.m.
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 4, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, October 4, 2023, at 12:30
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 27 (S-2) (Sen. Anthony).
2. Testimony regarding SB 227 (S-1) (Sen. Lauwers).
3. Testimony regarding SB 351 (Sen. Irwin).
4. Reported SB 57 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
5. Reported SB 58 (Sen. Bellino) with recommendation.
6. Reported HB 4071 (S-1) (Rep. Steckloff) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:45 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from September 13, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair offered an (S-2) version of SB 27.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 27. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair invited Remy Gelderloos, of Sen. Anthony's office, and Joseph Sullivan, of the Michigan Department
of Insurance and Financial Services, to summarize SB 27 and the changes in the (S-2) version.
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The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 27:
Marianne Huff, Mental Health Association in Michigan – Support
Taylor Barker, Ebb and Flow ABA Therapy and the Michigan Behavior Analysis Providers Association
– Support
Margaret Moore, Hope Network and the Michigan Behavior Analysis Providers Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 27:
Amy Zaagman, Michigan Council for Maternal and Child Health – Support
Elizabeth Kutter, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
Gabe Basso, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan – Support
Amy Stanton, Michigan Education Special Services Association – Support
Teri Langley, Disability Network of Michigan – Support
Monica Martinez, MCG Health – Support
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Alan Bolter, CMH Association of Michigan – Support
Dana Lasenby, Oakland Community Health Network – Support
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights of Michigan – Support
Sherri Boyd, The Arc Michigan – Support
The Chair offered an (S-1) version of SB 227.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 227. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Lauwers to summarize SB 227 and the changes in the (S-1) version.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 227:
Director Elizabeth Hertel, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services – Support
Heidi Fogarty, St. Claire County Community Mental Health – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 227:
Mandy Bolter, D.A. Blodgett and St. Johns Home – Support
The Chair invited Sen. Irwin to summarize SB 351.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 351:
Shannon McKenney, Michigan Breastfeeding Network – Support
Kaitlyn Bowen, Michigan Breastfeeding Network – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 351:
Heath Lowry, Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support
Amy Zaagman, Michigan Council for Maternal and Child Health – Support
Shakti Rambarran, Michigan Organization on Adolescent Sexual Health – Support
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Caty Jolley, Michigan Breastfeeding Network – Support
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 57 and
SB 58:
Linda Davis, Families Against Narcotics – Support
Chardae Burton, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services – Neutral
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to report SB 57 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 58 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4071:
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of HB 4071.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4071. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report the (S-1) version of HB 4071 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:26 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 11, 2023
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location: Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

evidence_text:
The Legislative Council submitted the following:

Meeting held on Tuesday, October 4, 2023, at 12:45 p.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Brinks (C), Singh, Moss, McCann, and McBroom

Excused: Senator Victory


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21ST DISTRICT
SANTHONY@SENATE.MICHIGAN.GOV
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR SARAH ANTHONY
CHAIR
324 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-6960
FAX: (517) 373-0897
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 4, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Appropriations was scheduled for Wednesday, October 4, 2023, at 2:00
p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room of the Capitol Building.
1) Testimony only regarding SB 23
2) Adopted Legislative Transfer Request 2023-7
3) Testimony only regarding SB 350 (Sen. Bayer) and SB 555 (Sen. Anthony)
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:05 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana,
Shink, Irwin, Hertel, Camilleri, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Cavanagh, Bumstead, Albert, Damoose, Huizenga,
Outman and Theis, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen Cavanagh, supported by Sen. Klinefelt, to adopt the meeting minutes
from September 7, 2023. Without Objection, the committee meeting minutes were adopted.
Next, the Chair invited Sen. McBroom to summarize SB 23 for the committee.
The following individuals testified regarding SB 23:
Trent Bellinger, Career & Technical Education Director, Delta Schoolcraft ISD – Support
Alan Tulppo, Superintendent, Gogebic-Ontonagon ISD – Support
The following individuals turned in cards regarding SB 23:
Ryan Hundt, Michigan Works Association – Support
Sheryl Kennedy, Michigan Department of Education – Support
Andy Newman, Michigan Education Association – Support
Next, the Chair invited Cory Savino of the Senate Fiscal Agency to summarize Legislative Transfer Request
2023-7 for the committee.
The following individuals answered questions regarding Legislative Transfer Request 2023-7:
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Joe Carrasco, Senate Fiscal Agency – Support
Kyle Kamanski, Michigan Department of Corrections
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer, supported by Sen. Cherry, to adopt Legislative Transfer Request
2023-7. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Camilleri, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Cavanagh, Bumstead, Albert, Damoose, Huizinga, Outman, and Theis
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the Transfer Request was adopted.
Next, the Chair invited Sen. Bayer to summarize SB 350 and SB 555 for the committee.
The following individuals testified regarding SB 350:
Jamie Jacobs, Michigan College Access Network – Support SB 350 and SB 555
Justine Sheehan, The Lansing Promise Zone – Support
Kaino Phillips, The Pontiac Promise Zone – Support
Chuck Willbur, Michigan Promise Zone Association – Support
The following individuals turned in cards regarding SB 350:
Andy Newman, Michigan Education Association – Support
Daniel Hurley, Michigan Association State Universities – Support
Rob Moss, Michigan Department of Treasury – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel, supported
by Sen. McCann, to adjourn the committee at 3:00 p.m. Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
Date adopted by committee: 10/18/2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 4, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Elections and Ethics was scheduled for Wednesday, October 4, 2023, at
3:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 529 (S-1) (Sen. Moss) with recommendation.
2. Testimony regarding HB 4567 (Rep. Tsernoglou) and HB 4568 (Rep. Whitsett).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:01 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson
and McBroom, a quorum was present.
At 3:01 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 3:04 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
At 3:09 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 3:09 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 529:
Chris Semrinec, MI League of Conservation Voters – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 529. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson, and McBroom.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report the (S-1) version of SB 529 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson and McBroom.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Alex Birkle with State Representative Tsernoglou office to summarize HB 4567 and HB
4568. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4567 and HB 4568:
Jackie Beaudry, City of Ann Arbor Clerk – Support
Marie Wicks, Interim East Lansing City Clerk – Support
Erica Peresman, Promote the Vote – Support
Ricky Bicknell, Voters Not Politicians – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4567
and HB 4568:
Merissa Kovach, ACLU – Support
Sherrie Ritchie, Pure Integrity Michgian Elections – Opposed to HB 4567; Neutral on HB 4568
Erin Schor, MDOS – Support
Judy Karandjeff, League of Women Voters of MI – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:52 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 11, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 5, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia,
Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: Rep. Filler.
Excused: Rep. Filler.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 384 before the committee:
SB 384
(Sen. Hertel)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding sections 3406z, 3901a, and
4002.
Representative Neeley moved to report out SB 384 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4101 before the committee:
HB 4101
(Rep. VanderWall)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 17609 (MCL
333.17609), as amended by 2010 PA 304.
Representative Thompson moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4101. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Mueller moved to report out HB 4101 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4213, HB 4579, HB 4580 and HB 4131 before the committee:
HB 4213
(Rep. Morse)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," by amending section 105h (MCL
400.105h), as added by 2020 PA 101.
HB 4579
(Rep. Price)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3476 (MCL 500.3476), as amended by 2020 PA
97.
HB 4580
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," by amending section 105h (MCL
400.105h), as added by 2020 PA 101.
HB 4131
(Rep. Liberati)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3476 (MCL 500.3476), as amended by 2020 PA
97.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4131. The motion prevailed
12-0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4580. The motion prevailed 12-
0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Price, Representative Liberati, Representative Morse, and Representative
Brabec testified in support of HB 4213, HB 4579, HB 4580 and HB 4131. Questions and
discussion followed.
Dr. Kevin Bohnsack, representing the Michigan State Medical Society, testified in support of
HB 4213, HB 4579, HB 4580 and HB 4131.
Laura Hout, representing the Guidance Center, testified in support of HB 4213, HB 4579, HB
4580 and HB 4131.
Michael Garrett, representing CNS Healthcare, testified in support of HB 4213, HB 4579, HB
4580 and HB 4131.
Phillip Bergquist and Dr. Nick Hemady, both representing the Michigan Primary Care
Association, testified in support of HB 4213. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4213, HB 4579, HB 4580 and HB
4131, but due to the time constraints was unable to speak:
Maggie Moore, representing the Michigan Behavior Analysis Providers Association and
Hope Network.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4213, HB 4579, HB 4580 and HB
4131, but did not wish to speak:
Janet Reynolds Snyder, representing the Michigan Federation for Children and Families.
Thadd Gormas, representing the Michigan Academy of Physician Assistants.
Elizabeth Kutter, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association.
Michelle Roberts, representing Disability Rights Michigan.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal and Child Health.
Bel Martin, representing Ascension.
Matt Black, representing the Michigan Academy of Family Physicians.
Ann Bolter, representing the Community Mental Health Association of Michigan.
Brian Gilbert, representing the American Physical Therapy Association - Michigan
Chapter.
Daniel Cherrin, representing Michigan Behavioral Health and Wellness.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4213, HB 4579 and HB 4131, but
did not wish to speak:
Rachel Enright, MA, MBA, BCBA, LBA, representing Gateway Pediatric Therapy,
LLC..
Dawn Sterling, BCBA, LBA, representing MetroEHS Pediatric Therapy and MIBAP.
Jennifer Ward-Kolka, MA, BCBA, LBA, representing the Spectrum Autism Center and
MiBAP Member.
Candice M. Lake, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, LLP, representing Wedgwood Christian
Services.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4579, HB 4580 and HB 4131, but
did not wish to speak:
Dana Lasenby, representing the Oakland Community Health Network.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4579 and HB 4580, but did not wish
to speak:
Allison Lin, MD, representing the Michigan Society of Addiction Medicine.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4131, but did not wish to speak:
Sean Gehle, representing the Trinity Health Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4504 and HB 4505 before the committee:
HB 4504
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 16188.
HB 4505
(Rep. Zorn)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 17801 (MCL
333.17801), as amended by 2009 PA 55, and by
adding sections 17820a and 17820b.
Representative Fitzgerald and Josh Stump, representing the Office of Representative Zorn,
testified in support of HB 4504 and HB 4505. Questions and discussion followed.
Jeff Rosa, representing the Physical Therapy Compact Commission, testified in support of
HB 4504 and HB 4505. Questions and discussion followed.
Brian Gilbert, representing the American Physical Therapy Association of Michigan, testified
in support of HB 4504 and HB 4505. Questions and discussion followed.
Denise Hoffman Henderson, representing the Michigan Occupational Therapy Association,
testified in support of HB 4504 and HB 4505.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4504 and HB 4505, but did not wish
to speak:
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association.
Bel Martin, representing Ascension.
The Chair laid HB 4169 and HB 4170 before the committee:
HB 4169
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 16188.
HB 4170
(Rep. Wozniak)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 18301 (MCL
333.18301), as amended by 2008 PA 523, and by
adding sections 18303a and 18303b.
At 11:43 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 11:44 AM, Majority Vice Chair Whitsett called the committee back to order.
Chair Rogers and Representative Wozniak testified in support of HB 4169 and HB 4170.
Questions and discussion followed.
At 11:48 AM, Majority Vice Chair Whitsett laid the committee at ease.
At 11:49 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Denise Hoffman, representing the Michigan Occupational Therapist Association, testified in
support of HB 4169 and HB 4170.
Kameron Kieffer, representing Ascension, testified in support of HB 4169 and HB 4170.
Dan Longdon, representing the Council of State Governments, testified in support of HB
4169 and HB 4170.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4169 and HB 4170, but did not wish
to speak:
Jarrett Skorup, representing the Mackinac Center.
Brian Gilbert, representing the American Physical Therapy Association - Michigan
Chapter.
Bel Martin, representing Ascension.
Representative VanderWall moved to excuse Representative Filler from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:58 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov