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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY REFORM
REP. MICHAEL WEBBER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, February 4, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Regulatory Reform was called to order by the Chair Webber.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Berman moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 28, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5341, HB 5342, HB 5343, HB 5344, HB 5345, HB 5346, HB 5347, HB 5348,
HB 5349, HB 5350, HB 5351, HB 5352, HB 5353, HB 5354 and HB 5355 before the committee:
HB 5341
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 407 (MCL 436.1407).
HB 5342
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 203 (MCL 436.1203), as amended by 2016 PA 520.
HB 5343
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," (MCL 436.1101 to
436.2303) by adding section 203a.
HB 5344
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 609c (MCL 436.1609c), as added by 2017 PA 130.
HB 5345
(Rep. Wentworth)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 409 (MCL 436.1409), as amended by 2014 PA 48.
HB 5346
(Rep. Wentworth)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 301 (MCL 436.1301), as amended by 2014 PA 49.
HB 5347
(Rep. Garza)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 526 (MCL 436.1526), as added by 2008 PA 258.
HB 5348
(Rep. Garza)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 502 (MCL 436.1502), as added by 2017 PA 129.
HB 5349
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 401 (MCL 436.1401).
HB 5350
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 307 (MCL 436.1307), as amended by 2018 PA 406.
HB 5351
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 111 (MCL 436.1111), as amended by 2018 PA 415.
HB 5352
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," (MCL 436.1101 to
436.2303) by adding section 602.
HB 5353
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 537 (MCL 436.1537), as amended by 2018 PA 560.
HB 5354
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 405 (MCL 436.1405), as amended by 2014 PA 353.
HB 5355
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 609a (MCL 436.1609a), as added by 2016 PA 81.
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5341. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel moved to refer House Bill No. 5341 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5342. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoitenga moved to refer House Bill No. 5342 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoitenga moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5343. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoitenga moved to refer House Bill No. 5343 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5344. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel moved to refer House Bill No. 5344 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5345. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler moved to refer House Bill No. 5345 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Crawford moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5346. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Chirkun moved to refer House Bill No. 5346 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Garza moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5347. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Garza moved to refer House Bill No. 5347 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Garza moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5348. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Garza moved to refer House Bill No. 5348 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hall moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5349. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hall moved to refer House Bill No. 5349 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 14-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall, Wendzel, Chirkun,
Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: Rep. Farrington.
Pass: None.
Representative Hall moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5350. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hall moved to refer House Bill No. 5350 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 14-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall, Wendzel, Chirkun,
Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: Rep. Farrington.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5351. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler moved to refer House Bill No. 5351 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 14-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall, Wendzel, Chirkun,
Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: Rep. Farrington.
Pass: None.
Representative Crawford moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5352. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Crawford moved to refer House Bill No. 5352 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-2). The motion prevailed 13-1-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Crawford, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall, Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati,
Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: Rep. Farrington.
Pass: Rep. Berman.
Representative Hoitenga moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5353. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoitenga moved to refer House Bill No. 5353 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-2). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Cambensy moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5354. The motion prevailed
15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Cambensy moved to refer House Bill No. 5354 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Cambensy moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5355. The motion prevailed
15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Cambensy moved to refer House Bill No. 5355 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5341-5355:
Kerry Krone, representing the Michigan Liquor Control Commission.
The Chair laid HB 5400 and HB 5134 before the committee:
HB 5400
(Rep. Garza)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 109 (MCL 436.1109), as amended by 2018 PA 409.
HB 5134
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 225,
entitled "Carnival-amusement safety act of 1966," by
amending section 10 (MCL 408.660), as amended by 2014
PA 163.
Substitute (H-1) was previously adopted on January 28, 2020.
Representative Garza moved to refer House Bill No. 5400 to the committee on Ways and Means.
The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza, Robinson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5400:
Kerry Krone, representing the Michigan Liquor Control Commission.
Representative Filler moved to refer House Bill No. 5134 to the committee on Ways and Means,
with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 14-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Webber, Berman, Crawford, Farrington, Frederick, Hoitenga, Filler, Hall,
Wendzel, Chirkun, Liberati, Cambensy, Jones, Garza.
Nays: Rep. Robinson.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425 before the committee:
HB 5422
(Rep. Lilly)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A
petition to initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water, carbonated
natural or mineral water, other nonalcoholic carbonated
drink, and for beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever
alcoholic content, and for certain other beverage containers;
to provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits; to
prescribe the powers and duties of certain state agencies and
officials; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies,"
(MCL 445.571 to 445.576) by adding section 4c.
HB 5423
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A
petition to initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water, carbonated
natural or mineral water, other nonalcoholic carbonated
drink, and for beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever
alcoholic content, and for certain other beverage containers;
to provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits; to
prescribe the powers and duties of certain state agencies and
officials; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies,"
by amending section 3c (MCL 445.573c), as amended by
1996 PA 384.
HB 5424
(Rep. Chirkun) A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A
petition to initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water, carbonated
natural or mineral water, other nonalcoholic carbonated
drink, and for beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever
alcoholic content, and for certain other beverage containers;
to provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits; to
prescribe the powers and duties of certain state agencies and
officials; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies,"
by amending section 4 (MCL 445.574), as amended by 1998
PA 473.
HB 5425
(Rep. Sneller)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The
code of criminal procedure," by amending section 14h of
chapter XVII (MCL 777.14h), as amended by 2019 PA 49.
Representative Lilly, Representative Iden, Representative Chirkun and Representative Sneller
testified in support of HB 5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
Sean Hammond, representing the Michigan Environmental Council, testified in opposition to HB
5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
Nicholas Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters, testified in
opposition to HB 5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
Amy Trotter, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs, testified in support of HB
5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury, testified with a neutral
position on HB 5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
James Clift and Sylvia Renteria, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great
Lakes and Energy, testified with a neutral position on HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Juan Escareno, representing the Midwest Independent Retailers Association, testified in support
of HB 5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
Derek Bajema, representing the Michigan Soft Drink Association, testified in support of HB
5424 and HB 5425. Questions and discussion followed.
Spencer Nevins, representing the Michigan Beer and Wine Wholesalers Association, testified in
support of HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Bill Black, representing Teamsters Joint Council 43, testified in support of HB 5424 and HB
5425.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424
and HB 5425, but did not wish to speak:
Kerry Krone, representing the Michigan Liquor Control Commission.
Lisa Reiff, representing the Michigan Association of Fairs and Exhibitions.
Kerrin O'Brien, representing the Michigan Recycling Coalition.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425,
but did not wish to speak:
Brett Visor, representing the Michigan Beer and Wine Wholesalers Association.
Amy Trotter, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
Scott Ellis, representing the Michigan Licensed Beverage Association.
Dave Greco, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Dan Papineau, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
Blaine Koops, representing the Michigan Sheriff Association.
Ken Grabowski, representing the Police Officers Association of Michigan.
Tom Emmerich, representing the Schupan and Sons.
Nick Kronsbein, representing the UBCR LLC.
Amy Drumm, representing the Michigan Retailers Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB
5425, but did not wish to speak:
Andrew Doerr, representing the Molson Coors.
Tim Mindtas, representing the Sierra Club.
Sean McBrearty, representing the Clean Water Action.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Michael Webber adjourned the
meeting at 12:00 PM.
Representative Michael Webber, Chair
Sondra Gordon
Committee Clerk
sgordon@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
REP. JACK O'MALLEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, February 4, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Transportation was called to order by Chair O'Malley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. O'Malley, Eisen, Cole, Sheppard, Bellino, Howell, Afendoulis, Sneller,
Clemente, Haadsma, Shannon.
Absent/Excused: Reps. Alexander, Yancey.
Representative Sheppard moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 28, 2020. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Chair O'Malley shares remarks with the committee.
Ben Gielczyk, representing the Michigan House Fiscal Agency, provided a presentation on a
Fiscal Brief Summary regarding the State Transportation Bonds and Debt Service.
Director Paul Ajegba, Chief Administrative Officer Laura Mester, and Director of Finance and
Operations Patrick McCarthy, representing the Michigan Department of Transportation, joined
by the State of Michigan Treasurer Rachel Eubanks, all provided a presentation on Rebuilding
Michigan: Governor Whitmer's Proposed Road Bonding Plan. Questions and discussion
followed.
Former Lieutenant Governor Brian Calley, President of the Small Business Association of
Michigan, provided a presentation on Borrowing: A Problem, Not a Solution. Questions and
discussion followed.
Representative Bellino moved to excuse Representatives Alexander and Yancey from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Jack O'Malley adjourned the meeting
at 11:56 AM.
Representative Jack O'Malley, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
REP. BRANDT IDEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, February 4,
2020
10:30
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Standing Committee on Ways and Means was called to order by Chair Iden.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel, Bolden.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 30, 2020. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5194 before the committee:
HB 5194
(Rep. Markkanen)
A bill to amend 1974 PA 300,
entitled "Motor vehicle service and repair act," by amending
section 2 (MCL 257.1302), as amended by 2016 PA 430.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5194. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5194 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4396 before the committee:
HB 4396
(Rep. Wittenberg)
A bill to amend 1925 PA 368,
entitled "An act to prohibit obstructions and encroachments
on public highways; to provide for the removal of
obstructions and encroachments on public highways; to
prescribe the conditions under which telegraph, telephone,
power, and other public utility companies, cable television
companies, broadband companies, and municipalities may
enter upon, construct, and maintain telegraph, telephone,
power, cable television, or broadband lines, pipe lines, wires,
cables, poles, conduits, sewers, and like structures upon,
over, across, or under public roads, bridges, streets, and
waters; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies," by
repealing section 19 (MCL 247.189).
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 4396 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5315 before the committee:
HB 5315
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 513 (MCL 436.1513), as amended by 2018 PA 479.
Representative Warren moved to report out HB 5315 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5141 before the committee:
HB 5141
(Rep. Calley)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled
"Michigan election law," by amending section 765a (MCL
168.765a), as added by 2018 PA 123, and by adding sections
764d and 764e.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5141. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5141 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4567, HB 4568 and HB 4569 before the committee:
HB 4567
(Rep. O'Malley)A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled
"Natural resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 47301, 47302, 47303, 47305, 47306,
47307, and 47308 (MCL 324.47301, 324.47302, 324.47303,
324.47305, 324.47306, 324.47307, and 324.47308), sections
47301, 47302, 47305, 47306, 47307, and 47308 as added by
1995 PA 57 and section 47303 as amended by 2004 PA 587,
and by adding section 47304.
HB 4568
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled
"Natural resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 47309, 47310, 47311, 47312, 47313,
47314, 47315, 47316, and 47317 (MCL 324.47309,
324.47310, 324.47311, 324.47312, 324.47313, 324.47314,
324.47315, 324.47316, and 324.47317), as added by 1995
PA 57.
HB 4569
(Rep. Lilly)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled
"Natural resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 47318, 47320, 47321, 47322, 47323,
47324, 47325, 47326, 47327, 47328, 47329, and 48724
(MCL 324.47318, 324.47320, 324.47321, 324.47322,
324.47323, 324.47324, 324.47325, 324.47326, 324.47327,
324.47328, 324.47329, and 324.48724), as added by 1995
PA 57; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
Substitute (H-4) was previously adopted to HB 4567 on January 30th, 2020.
Substitute (H-4) was previously adopted to HB 4568 on January 30th, 2020.
Substitute (H-4) was previously adopted to HB 4569 on January 30th, 2020.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-5) to HB 4567 (H-4). The motion prevailed
11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 4567 with recommendation, as substitute (H-5).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-5) to HB 4568 (H-4). The motion prevailed
11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 4568 with recommendation, as substitute (H-5).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Meerman moved to adopt substitute (H-5) to HB 4569 (H-4). The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Leutheuser moved to report out HB 4569 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
5). The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Brandt Iden adjourned the meeting at
10:40 AM.
Representative Brandt Iden, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KEN HORN, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JON C. BUMSTEAD
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND
CAREER READINESS
SENATOR LANA THEIS
CHAIR
7400 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2420
FAX: (517) 373-2764
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 4, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education and Career Readiness was scheduled for Tuesday, February 4,
2020, at 12:00 noon, in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation by the Michigan Department of Education on MSTEP and WorkKeys tests
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:00 noon He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Theis, Sen.(s) Horn, Bumstead, Runestad, Daley, Polehanki and Geiss,
a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Horn to adopt the meeting minutes from December 10, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding MSTEP and WorkKeys Tests
Dr. Venessa Keesler, Michigan Department of Education – No Position
Rose Babington, Director of State Partnership for ACT – No Position
Michigan Manufacturers Association – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:02 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 11, 2020
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MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN DALEY, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
SEN. ED MCBROOM
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. WINNIE BRINKS
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY
SENATOR RICK OUTMAN
CHAIR
4400 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-3760
FAX: (517) 373-8661
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 4, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Environmental Quality was scheduled for Tuesday, February 4, 2020, at
1:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation regarding the Electro-Plating Services Associated Site by the Michigan Department of
Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:01 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Outman, Sen.(s) Daley, Johnson, VanderWall, McBroom, Bayer, and
Brinks, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Daley to adopt the meeting minutes from January 21, 2020. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Deputy Director James Clift and Southeast Michigan District Supervisor Tracy Kecskemeti,
of the Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy, to give an update presentation regarding
the Electro-Plating Services Associated Site in Madison Heights, MI.
The Chair invited Sen. Moss to present testimony regarding the Electro-Plating Services Associated Site in
Madison Heights, MI.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:58 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 25, 2020
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. SHANE HERNANDEZ
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5,
2020
9:00
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Standing Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Hernandez.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hernandez, Miller, Sheppard, Albert, Allor, Brann, Whiteford, Yaroch, Bollin,
Glenn, Green, Huizenga, Lightner, Maddock, Slagh, VanWoerkom, Hoadley, Love,
Hammoud, Peterson, Sabo, Anthony, Brixie, Cherry, Hood, Kennedy, Tate.
Absent/Excused: Reps. VanSingel, Pagan.
Representative Glenn moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 22, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 693 before the committee:
SB 693
(Sen. Lauwers) A bill to amend 2018 PA 111, entitled
"Agricultural disaster loan origination program act," by
amending sections 2, 3, 4, and 5 (MCL 286.432, 286.433,
286.434, and 286.435).
Josh Skrzypczak, representing the Office of Senator Lauwers, testified in support of SB 693.
Questions and discussion followed.
Paul Anderson, representing Greenstone Farm Credit Union, testified in support of SB 693.
Questions and discussion followed.
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Bankers Association, testified in support of SB 693.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 693, but did not wish to speak:
Justin Clement, representing the Michigan Soybean Association.
Rebecca Park, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to report out SB 693 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 26-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hernandez, Miller, Sheppard, Albert, Allor, Brann, Whiteford, Yaroch, Bollin,
Glenn, Green, Huizenga, Maddock, Slagh, VanWoerkom, Hoadley, Love, Hammoud,
Peterson, Sabo, Anthony, Brixie, Cherry, Hood, Kennedy, Tate.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Lightner.
The Chair invited Representative Huizenga, Representative Whiteford, Representative Glenn,
Representative Hammoud, and Representative Sabo to give a presentation on the House
Appropriations Committee IT Task Force Report. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Hoadley moved to excuse Representatives VanSingel and Pagan from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Shane Hernandez adjourned the
meeting at 10:08 AM.
Representative Shane Hernandez, Chair
Matt Carnagie
Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
REP. JULIE CALLEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Elections and Ethics was called to order by Chair Calley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Calley, Sheppard, Hornberger, Marino, Paquette, Guerra, Hope.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Paquette moved to adopt the minutes from the January 22nd, 2020. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 117 and SB 297 before the committee:
SB 117
(Sen. Johnson) A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled
"Michigan election law," by amending section 759a (MCL
168.759a), as amended by 2012 PA 523.
SB 297
(Sen. Wojno)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled
"Michigan election law," (MCL 168.1 to 168.992) by adding
section 18a.
Garrett Wheat and Bill Drake, representing the Offices of Senator Johnson and Senator Wojno,
testified in support of SB 117 and SB 297. Questions and discussion followed.
Mary Clark and Evan Hope, representing the Michigan Association of Municipal Clerks, testified
in support of SB 117 and SB 297.
Adam Reames, representing the Michigan Department of State, testified with no position on SB
117 and SB 297. Questions and discussion followed.
Justin Roebuck, representing the Council of Election Officials, testified in support of SB 117 and
SB 297. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Calley adjourned the meeting at
10:52 AM.
Representative Julie Calley, Chair
Amy Rostkowycz
Committee Clerk
arostkowycz@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY
REP. JOSEPH N BELLINO
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Energy was called to order by Chair Bellino.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Bellino, Wendzel, Frederick, Lower, Filler, Markkanen, Mueller, O'Malley,
Schroeder, Lasinski, Sneller, Tyrone Carter, Haadsma, Kuppa, Manoogian, Shannon.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Alexander.
Representative Sneller moved to adopt the meeting minutes from December 4, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Wendzel moved to excuse Representative Alexander from the meeting. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4806 and HB 5445 before the committee:
HB 4806
(Rep. Schroeder)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 3, entitled
"An act to provide for the regulation and control of public
and certain private utilities and other services affected with a
public interest within this state; to provide for alternative
energy suppliers; to provide for licensing; to include
municipally owned utilities and other providers of energy
under certain provisions of this act; to create a public service
commission and to prescribe and define its powers and
duties; to abolish the Michigan public utilities commission
and to confer the powers and duties vested by law on the
public service commission; to provide for the powers and
duties of certain state governmental officers and entities; to
provide for the continuance, transfer, and completion of
certain matters and proceedings; to abolish automatic
adjustment clauses; to prohibit certain rate increases without
notice and hearing; to qualify residential energy conservation
programs permitted under state law for certain federal
exemption; to create a fund; to encourage the utilization of
resource recovery facilities; to prohibit certain acts and
practices of providers of energy; to allow for the
securitization of stranded costs; to reduce rates; to provide
for appeals; to provide appropriations; to declare the effect
and purpose of this act; to prescribe remedies and penalties;
and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by amending the title
and sections 10g, 10h, and 10q (MCL 460.10g, 460.10h, and
460.10q), the title as amended by 2016 PA 341, section 10g
as amended by 2008 PA 286, section 10h as added by 2000
PA 142, and section 10q as added by 2000 PA 141.
HB 5445
(Rep. Schroeder)
A bill to regulate persons that
provide electric vehicle charging services; to require
registration of certain persons that provide electric vehicle
charging services; and to prescribe the powers and duties of
certain state officers and entities.
Representative Schreoder testified in support of HB 4806 and HB 5445. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4806 and HB 5445, but did
not wish to speak:
Charlotte Jameson, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4806 and HB 5445, but did not wish to
speak:
Leah Wawro, representing DTE.
Mark Griffin, representing the Michigan Petroleum Association.
Kurt Berryman, representing the Auto Dealers of Michigan.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4806, but did not wish to
speak:
Reka Holley, representing the Michigan Public Service Commission.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4806, but did not wish to speak:
Cory Connolly, representing the Energy Innovation Business Council.
Matt Sowash, representing Tesla.
Chris Iannuzzi, representing Consumers Energy.
Robert O'Meara, representing the ITC Corp.
Marcia Hune, representing Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.
Katie Abraham, representing the Michigan Municipal Electric Association.
Mike Alaimo, representing Clean Fuels Michigan.
Kevin Miller, representing ChargePoint.
Ed Rivet, representing the Michigan Conservative Energy Forum.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5445, but did not wish to
speak:
Mike Alaimo, representing Clean Fuels Michigan.
Ed Rivet, representing the Michigan Conservative Energy Forum.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5445, but did not wish to speak:
Cory Connolly, representing the Energy Innovation Business Council.
Kevin Miller, representing ChargePoint.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Joseph Bellino adjourned the
meeting at 9:19 AM.
Representative Joseph Bellino, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, CHILDREN, AND SENIORS
REP. KATHY CRAWFORD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
9:00 a.m.
Room 308, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Families, Children, and Seniors was called to order by the
Chair.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Crawford, Rendon, Farrington, Hoitenga, Wozniak, Garrett, Liberati, Brenda
Carter, Cynthia Johnson.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Rendon moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 22, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5289 before the committee:
HB 5289
(Rep. Alexander)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368,
entitled "Public health code," by amending sections 2882 and
2891 (MCL 333.2882 and 333.2891), section 2882 as
amended by 2002 PA 691 and section 2891 as amended by
2013 PA 136.
Val Vail-Shirey, Legislative Assistant for Representative Julie Alexander, explained the (H-2)
substitute for HB 5289.
Genevieve Marron, representing the Right to Life of Michigan, submitted a card in support of
HB 5289, but did not wish to speak.
Representative Liberati moved to adopt the substitute (H-2) for HB 5289. The motion prevailed
8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Crawford, Rendon, Farrington, Hoitenga, Wozniak, Liberati, Brenda Carter,
Cynthia Johnson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak moved to refer HB 5289 to the Committee on Ways and Means, with
recommendation as substitute (H-2). The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Crawford, Rendon, Farrington, Hoitenga, Wozniak, Liberati, Brenda Carter,
Cynthia Johnson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation on Kinship Care.
Dr. Sharon McDaniel, President and Chief Executive Officer of A Second Chance, Incorporated,
explained the importance of placement of children with their relatives, or family friends when
they are unable to remain in the homes of their birth parents. A copy of her handout is attached.
Questions followed.
Dr. Joo Yeunn Chang, Senior Deputy Director for the Children's Service Agency at the Michigan
Department of Health and Human Services, joined Dr. McDaniel to address questions from
committee members.
Deb Frisbee, a Parent Consultant at Adoption Family Support Network, showed a video from Jan
Wagner, a kinship caregiver from Mason County and the recipient of the Casey Family Programs
2019 Excellence Award, and briefed the committee members about her program. Questions and
discussion followed.
Brooke VanProoyen, Coordinator of the Adoption Family Support Network and a former relative
placement child, briefed the committee further about various child placement issues. Questions
followed.
Lisa Grodsky, Community Services Coordinator for the Oakland Livingston Human Services
Agency, briefed the members on her area's child placement conditions. Questions and discussion
followed.
Tina Wasilewski and Anita Rothert, Parent Education Specialist, from the Guidance Center in
Dearborn, Michigan, briefed the committee on their program.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Wozniak moved to adjourn
the committee. There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent. The
Chair adjourned the meeting at 10:32 a.m.
Representative Kathy Crawford, Chair
Joy Brewer
Committee Clerk
joybrewer@house.mi.gov


location: Room 307, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. DIANA FARRINGTON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Financial Services was called to order by Chair Farrington.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Stone, Whitsett.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Clemente.
Representative Schroeder moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 30, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 415 before the committee:
SB 415
(Sen. Nesbitt)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 379, entitled "An
act to define and regulate certain credit card transactions,
agreements, charges, and disclosures; to prescribe the powers
and duties of the financial institutions bureau and certain
state agencies; to provide for the promulgation of rules; and
to provide for fines and penalties," by amending the title and
section 1 (MCL 493.101).
Ryan Studley, representing Senator Nesbitt's Office, testified in support of SB 415.
Kris Araya, representing Comdata Inc., testified in support of SB 415.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on SB 415, but did not wish to
speak:
Angela Clock, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 415, but did not wish to speak:
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Bankers Association.
Representative Wittenberg moved to excuse Representative Clemente from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Diana Farrington adjourned the
meeting at 12:06 PM.
Representative Diana Farrington, Chair
Eddie Sleeper
Acting Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JAMES LOWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to
order by Chair Lower.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Markkanen, Paquette,
Ellison, Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Crawford moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 22, 2020. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4030 before the committee:
HB 4030
(Rep. Allor)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 139, entitled "An
act authorizing township boards to provide for the
maintenance and improvement of private roads by contract
and to provide payments by special assessment districts; and
to repeal certain acts and parts of acts," by amending section
2 (MCL 247.392).
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4030, but did not wish to speak:
Jesse Osmer, representing the office of Representative Allor.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Representative Marino moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4030. The motion prevailed 13-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Markkanen, Paquette, Ellison,
Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Ellison moved to refer House Bill No. 4030 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-3). The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Markkanen, Paquette, Ellison,
Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5197 and HB 5198 before the committee:
HB 5197
(Rep. Maddock)A bill to amend 1992 PA 116, entitled
"Records reproduction act," (MCL 24.401 to 24.406) by
adding section 2a.
HB 5198
(Rep. Maddock)A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 491 (MCL
750.491), as amended by 2017 PA 182.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5197, but did not wish to speak:
Stephanie Johnson, representing Canton Township.
Representative Paquette moved to refer House Bill No. 5197 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Markkanen, Paquette, Ellison,
Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Paquette moved to refer House Bill No. 5198 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Markkanen, Paquette, Ellison,
Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Lower adjourned the
meeting at 12:05 PM.
Representative James Lower, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
REP. MATT HALL
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
8:30 AM
Senate Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Standing Committee on Oversight was meeting jointly with the Senate Oversight
Committee.
The Senate Oversight Committee was called to order by Senator McBroom.
The House Standing Committee on Oversight was called to order by Chair Hall.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hall, Reilly, Webber, Steven Johnson, Cynthia Johnson, Camilleri, LaGrand.
Absent/Excused: Reps. LaFave, Schroeder.
The Chair laid before the committee the following:
Office of the Auditor General Performance Audit Report: Bureau of Elections - December 2019
#231-0235-19
Mary Lowe and Jordan Schafer, representing the Office of the Auditor General, testified
regarding the audit report. Questions and discussion followed.
Johnathan Brater, the Director of the Bureau of Elections, testified regarding the audit report.
Questions and discussion followed.
Andrew Mason and Bree Anderson, representing Michigan Department of Technology
Management and Budget, testified regarding the audit report.
The following people submitted a card, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Mary Clark and Joe Roebuck, representing the Council of Election Officials and the
Michigan Association of Municipal Clerks
Representative Reilly moved to excuse Representatives LaFave and Schroeder from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Matt Hall adjourned the meeting at
9:54 AM.
Senator McBroom adjourned the Senate Oversight Committee at 9:55 AM.
Representative Matt Hall, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov


location: Senate Appropriations, State Capitol Building


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. LYNN AFENDOULIS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 5, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Afendoulis.
At 10:34 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:39 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Afendoulis, Lower, Vaupel, Webber, Farrington, Steven Johnson, Hall,
O'Malley, Schroeder, Yancey, Wittenberg, Ellison, Lasinski, Whitsett.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Robinson.
Representative Yancey moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 22, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5059 before the committee:
HB 5059
(Rep. Slagh)
A bill to amend 1996 PA 381, entitled
"Brownfield redevelopment financing act," (MCL 125.2651
to 125.2670) by adding section 15b.
Representative O'Malley moved to refer House Bill No. 5059 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 12-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Afendoulis, Lower, Vaupel, Webber, Farrington, O'Malley, Schroeder, Yancey,
Wittenberg, Ellison, Lasinski, Whitsett.
Nays: Reps. Steven Johnson, Hall.
Pass: None.
Chairwoman Afendoulis moved to excuse Representative Robinson from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Lynn Afendoulis adjourned the
meeting at 10:41 AM.
Representative Lynn Afendoulis, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. ARIC NESBITT, VICE CHAIR
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. BETTY JEAN ALEXANDER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE
SENATOR JIM RUNESTAD
CHAI
7500 BINSFELD BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1758
FAX: (517) 373-0938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance was scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, 2020, at 12:30 p.m.,
in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Building.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 5124 (S-1) (Rep. Byrd) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Testimony regarding SB 725 (Sen. Runestad).
3. Testimony regarding SB 726 (Sen. Johnson).
__________________________________________________________________________________________
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:32 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Runestad, Sen.(s) Daley, Bumstead, VanderWall, Chang and Alexander,
a quorum was present.
The Chair moved to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Nesbitt was excused
from the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the meeting minutes from January 29, 2020.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 5124. He offered an (S-1) version to the bill and summarized the (S-1).
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 5124. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Runestad, Sen.(s) Daley, Bumstead, VanderWall, Chang and Alexander
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report HB 5124 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Runestad, Sen.(s) Bumstead, VanderWall, Chang and Alexander
Nays: Sen. Daley
The motion prevailed, and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 5124. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair summarized SB 725 and invited Sen. Johnson to summarize SB 726.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regard SB's 725 – 726:
Michael Pung, Citizen – Support
Michele Oberholtzer, United Community Housing Coalition - Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the meeting. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:19 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/19/2020


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MEMBERS:
SEN. TOM BARRETT, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. DALE W. ZORN
SEN. MARSHALL BULLOCK, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. BETTY JEAN ALEXANDER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, SENIORS AND
VETERANS
SENATOR JOHN BIZON, M.D.
CHAIR
3400 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2426
FAX: (517) 373-2964
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Families, Seniors and Veterans was scheduled for Wednesday, February
5, 2020, at 3:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SR 91 (Sen. Lucido) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Presentation by JooYeun Chang, Children's Services Agency Executive Director, MDHHS on the
Overview of Sec. 588 - Children's Rights Settlement Termination Plan
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Bizon, Sen.(s) Runestad, Johnson, Zorn, Bullock and Alexander, a
quorum was present.
At 3:01 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 3:02 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bullock to adopt the meeting minutes from January 22, 2020. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SR 91:
Scott Ray, Office of Senator Peter Lucido – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SR 91:
Rev. Dr. Jennifer L. Smith, Veterans of Foreign Wars Department of MI and Auxiliary – Support
Fred Schaible, DMVA – Support
Danielle Jones, National Guard Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SR 91 to the floor with recommendation that it be
adopted. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Bizon, Sens. Runestad, Johnson, Zorn, Bullock, and Alexander.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the resolution was reported.
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The Chair invited JooYuen Chang, Children's Services Agency Executive Director with the Michigan
Department of Health and Human Services to deliver a presentation on the Overview of Sec. 588 - Children's
Rights Settlement Termination Plan.
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Barrett was
excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:52 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 19, 2020
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36TH DISTRICT
SENJSTAMAS@SENATE.MICHIGAN.GOV
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR JIM STAMAS
CHAIR
S-324 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7946
FAX: (517) 373-2678
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Appropriations was scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, 2020, at
2:00 p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Senate Appropriations Room of the Capitol Building.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 595 (Sen. Schmidt) with recommendation and immediate effect.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time,
the following members were present; Chairman Stamas, Sen.(s) Bumstead, MacGregor, Bizon, LaSata,
MacDonald, Outman, Runestad, Schmidt, Hertel, Irwin, Santana, McCann, and Bayer, a quorum was
present.
The Chairman moved, supported by Sen. Bumstead, to excuse absent members from the committee meeting.
Without objection, Sen.(s) Barrett, Nesbitt, Hollier, Victory, and Hollier were excused.
The Chairman entertained a motion from Sen. Bumstead, supported by Sen. Hertel, to adopt the amended
committee rules. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chairman Stamas, Sen.(s) Bumstead, MacGregor, Bizon, LaSata, MacDonald, Outman,
Runestad, Schmidt, Hertel, Irwin, Santana, McCann and Bayer
Nays: None
The committee rules were adopted.
The Chairman invited Sen. Schmidt and Gabe Schneider of TART (Traverse Area Recreational Trail) to
summarize SB 695 for the committee.
The Chairman entertained a motion from Sen. MacGregor, supported by Sen. Outman, to report SB 695 to
the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chairman Stamas, Sen.(s) Bumstead, MacGregor, Bizon, LaSata, MacDonald, Outman,
Runestad, Schmidt, Hertel, Irwin, Santana, McCann and Bayer
Nays: None
The bill was reported.
The Chairman entertained a motion by Sen MacDonald, supported by Sen. Runestad to recommend
immediate effect for SB 695. Without objection, immediate effect was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chairman entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel,
supported by the Chairman, to adjourn the committee. The Senate Committee on Appropriations adjourned
at 2:07 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 2-19-20
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MEMBERS:
SEN. DAN LAUWERS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA
SEN. ARIC NESBITT
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
SEN. TOM BARRETT
SEN. KEN HORN
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARSHALL BULLOCK
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND
BANKING
SENATOR LANA THEIS
CHAIR
7400 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2420
FAX: (517) 373-2764
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Insurance and Banking was scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, 2020,
at 8:30 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 5174 (Rep. Rendon)
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:32 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Theis, Sen.(s) LaSata, Daley, Horn, Geiss, Bullock and McMorrow, a
quorum was present.
At 8:33 a.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 8:34 a.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5174:
John H. Meets and Jeff Diefenbach, Wholesale and Specialty Insurance Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Daley to adopt the meeting minutes from January 22, 2020. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. LaSata to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection,
Sens. Lauwers, Barrett and Nesbitt were excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 8:45 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 19, 2020
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The Appropriations Subcommittee on Community Health/Human Services submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, at 12:30 p.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators MacGregor (C), Bizon , Schmidt, LaSata , MacDonald, Hertel, Irwin and Santana

Excused: Senator Barrett


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ARIC NESBITT
SEN. ED MCBROOM
SEN. CURTIS HERTEL, JR., MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ADVICE AND CONSENT
SENATOR PETER J. LUCIDO
CHAIR
3100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Advice and Consent was scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, 2020
at 3:00 p.m.., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Building.
_______________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. A hearing to consider the appointments of Ms. Amanda A. Howell, Ms. Sandra J. McCurdy, Mrs.
Kristin M. Revere and Dr. Hsin Wang to the Michigan Board of Licensed Midwifery.
_______________________________________________________________________________________
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Lucido, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom and Hertel, a quorum was
present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. Nesbitt was excused from the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. LaSata to adopt the meeting minutes from the February 5, 2020
meeting. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited all the appointees, Ms. Amanda A. Howell, Ms. Sandra J. McCurdy, Mrs. Kristin M.
Revere and Dr. Hsin Wang, to provide the committee with their introductory statements. Member questions
followed.
The following individuals did not wish to present testimony regarding the appointments to the Michigan
Board of Licensed Midwifery:
Lynell Miller, Citizen – Support appointment of Kristin Revere
Kelly Wysocki-Emery, RN – Support appointment of Kristin Revere
Yolanda Visser, Citizen – Support appointment of Kristin Revere
Leanna Pelham, Citizen – Support appointment of Kristin Revere
Elizabeth Hawver, Friends of Michigan Midwives – Support appointment of Kristin Revere, Sandra
McCurdy and Amanda Howell
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the meeting. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:08 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/06/2020


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MEMBERS:
SEN. PETER J. LUCIDO, VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. MICHAEL MACDONALD
SEN. JEFF IRWIN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
SENATOR ED MCBROOM
CHAIR
7200 BINSFELD BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7840
FAX: (517) 373-3932
JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A joint meeting of the Senate Committee on Oversight with the House Committee on Oversight was scheduled
for Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 8:30 a.m., in the Harry T. Gast Senate Appropriations Room of the Capitol
Building.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Discussion on the Office of the Auditor General Performance Audit Report, Michigan Department
of State, Bureau of Elections, December 2019.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
Chair McBroom called the Senate meeting to order at 8:32 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that
time, the following members were present: Chair McBroom, Sen.(s) Lucido, Theis and MacDonald, a quorum
was present.
Chair McBroom invited the House Oversight Committee to call roll and excuse absent members. A quorum was
not present at that time.
Chair McBroom invited the committees to join in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
Chair McBroom gave opening comments including a summary of the topic.
Chair McBroom invited Mary Lowe and Jordan Schafer of the Office of the Auditor General to brief the
committees on the Office of the Auditor General Performance Audit Report, Michigan Department of State,
Bureau of Elections, December 2019.
Questions followed from Senate and House committee members.
Chair McBroom invited Jonathan Brater of the Bureau of Elections to provide testimony regarding the
Performance Audit Report, Michigan Department of State, Bureau of Elections, December 2019.
Questions followed from Senate and House committee members.
Chair McBroom invited Andrew Mason and Bree Anderson of the Michigan Department of Technology,
Management and Budget to provide testimony regarding the Performance Audit Report, Michigan Department
of State, Bureau of Elections, December 2019.
The members did not have further questions.
Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to adjourn the Senate meeting due to the Senate session beginning.
Without objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:54 a.m.
The House Committee on Oversight adjourned at 9:54 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 03/03/2020


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COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 5, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Appropriations Subcommittee on Community
Health/Human Services was scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, 2020, at 12:30 p.m., in the Harry T. Gast
Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:32 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair MacGregor, Sens. Bizon, Schmidt, LaSata, MacDonald, Hertel, Irwin
and Santana, a quorum was present.
At 12:33 p.m., Sen. Michael MacDonald entered the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding
Patty Sabin and Lansing Sanchez Castillo, Michigan CASA – Support
Michael Christy and Melissa Werkman, Children's Advocacy Centers – Support
Michael Christy and Melissa Werkman, Children's Advocacy Centers – Support
Colleen Allen and Jill Madsen, Autism Alliance of Michigan – Support
At 12:34 p.m., Sen. Sylvia Santana entered the meeting. A quorum was now present.
At 12:35 p.m., Sen. Jeff Irwin entered the meeting.
At 12:37 p.m., Sen. Curtis Hertel entered the meeting.
At 12:39 p.m., Sen. Wayne Schmidt entered the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Schmidt, supported by Sen. MacGregor, to excuse absent members
from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Barrett was excused from the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bizon, supported by Sen. MacGregor, to adopt the meeting minutes
from December 4th, 2019.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Hertel, to
adjourn the committee at 1:45 p.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 19, 2020
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. SHANE HERNANDEZ
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, February 6,
2020
10:30
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Standing Committee on Appropriations was meeting jointly with the Senate Standing
Committee on Appropriations.
The House Standing Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Hernandez.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hernandez, Miller, Sheppard, Albert, Allor, Brann, Whiteford, Yaroch, Bollin,
Glenn, Green, Huizenga, Lightner, Maddock, Slagh, VanWoerkom, Hoadley, Love,
Hammoud, Peterson, Sabo, Anthony, Brixie, Cherry, Hood, Kennedy, Tate.
Absent/Excused: Reps. VanSingel, Pagan.
Representative Hoadley moved to excuse Representatives VanSingel and Pagan from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
State Budget Director Chris Kolb and Deputy State Budget Director Kyle Jen gave a presentation
on Governor Whitmer's 2021 Executive Budget Recommendation. Questions and discussion
followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Shane Hernandez adjourned the
meeting at 11:45 AM.
Representative Shane Hernandez, Chair
Matt Carnagie
Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE
REP. DAIRE L RENDON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, February 6, 2020
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Insurance was called to order by Chair Rendon.
The Clerk read a letter from House Speaker Lee Chatfield appointing Representative Yousef
Rabhi to replace Representative Kyra Bolden on the Insurance Committee.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rendon, Markkanen, Webber, Vaupel, Bellino, Frederick, Hoitenga, LaFave,
Berman, Paquette, Wittenberg, Gay-Dagnogo, Lasinski, Rabhi, Sneller, Brenda Carter,
Coleman.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Webber moved to adopt the meeting minutes from December 3, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 172 before the committee:
SB 172
(Sen. Stamas)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section 513 (MCL
500.513), as added by 2001 PA 24.
Brian Shoaf, representing Senator Stamas' office, joined by Andrew Doerr, representing the
American Property Casualty Insurance Association, both testified in support of SB 172.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 172, but did not wish to speak:
Dyck Van Koevering, representing the Insurance Alliance of Michigan.
Matt Sowash, representing State Farm.
Ken Ross, representing John Hancock Life Insurance.
Marcia Hune, representing the Life Insurance Association of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4508 before the committee:
HB 4508
(Rep. Webber) A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section 1202 (MCL
500.1202), as amended by 2016 PA 114, and by adding
chapter 12b.
Representative Webber testified to his proposed (H-1) substitute to HB 4508.
Representative Webber moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4508. The motion prevailed 17-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rendon, Markkanen, Webber, Vaupel, Bellino, Frederick, Hoitenga, LaFave,
Berman, Paquette, Wittenberg, Gay-Dagnogo, Lasinski, Rabhi, Sneller, Brenda Carter,
Coleman.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
John Fielding, representing the United States Travel Insurance Association, testified in support of
HB 4508.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4508 (H-1), but did not wish to speak:
Bob Stefanski, representing the American International Group, Inc..
Representative Markkanen moved to refer House Bill No. 4508 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 17-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rendon, Markkanen, Webber, Vaupel, Bellino, Frederick, Hoitenga, LaFave,
Berman, Paquette, Wittenberg, Gay-Dagnogo, Lasinski, Rabhi, Sneller, Brenda Carter,
Coleman.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Daire Rendon adjourned the meeting
at 9:21 AM.
Representative Daire Rendon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
REP. MATT HALL
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, February 6, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Oversight was called to order by Chair Hall.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hall, Reilly, Webber, Steven Johnson, LaFave, Schroeder, Camilleri,
LaGrand.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Cynthia Johnson.
Representative Reilly moved to adopt the meeting minutes from January 23, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Reilly moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 5, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee the following:
Office of the Auditor General Performance Audit Report Office of Aging and Adult Services
Agency, Department of Health and Human Services, #391-0645-18, October 2019
The Chair made remarks regarding the audit report recommendations.
Representative LaGrand motioned to adopt the House Oversight Committee Report
Recommendations on the Office of the Auditor General Performance Audit Report on the Aging
and Adult Services Agency.
The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hall, Reilly, Webber, Steven Johnson, LaFave, Schroeder, Camilleri, LaGrand.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative LaFave motioned to refer the Office of the Auditor General Performance Audit
Report Aging and Adult Services Agency, Department of Health, and Human Services to the
committee on Families Children and Seniors.
The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hall, Reilly, Webber, Steven Johnson, LaFave, Schroeder, Camilleri, LaGrand.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5426 and HB 5427 before the committee:
HB 5426
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 2017 PA 132, entitled
"Cyber civilian corps act," by amending sections 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
and 7 (MCL 18.222, 18.223, 18.224, 18.225, 18.226, and
18.227).
HB 5427
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 2017 PA 132,
entitled "Cyber civilian corps act," by amending sections 9
and 10 (MCL 18.229 and 18.230).
At 10:42 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
Chair Hall handed the gavel over to Vice Chair Reilly.
At 10:43 AM, the Majority Vice Chair John Reilly called the committee back to order.
Chair Hall testified in support of HB 5426 and HB 5427. Questions and discussion followed.
Laura Clark and Bree Anderson, representing the Michigan Department of Management and
Budget, testified in support of HB 5426 and HB 5427.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5426 and HB 5427, but did not wish to
speak:
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Bankers Association.
Representative LaFave moved to excuse Representative Cynthia Johnson from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Majority Vice Chair. John Reilly
adjourned the meeting at 10:51 AM.
Representative Matt Hall, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PETER MACGREGOR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. WAYNE A. SCHMIDT
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND SMALL
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR KEN HORN
CHAIR
7100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1760
FAX: (517) 373-3487
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 6, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Small Business Development was scheduled for
Thursday, February 6, 2020, at 12:00 noon, in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 5187 (Rep. Rebekah Warren) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Reported HB 5188 (Rep. Mark Huizenga) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3. Presentation on Benchmarking the Michigan Economic Development Corporation by Tim Dempsey,
VP Public Sector Consultants.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:00 noon He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Horn, Sen.(s) VanderWall, MacGregor, Theis, Schmidt, McMorrow,
Geiss and Moss, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. Lauwers was excused from the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to adopt the meeting minutes from January 23, 2020.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony on Benchmarking the Michigan Economic
Development Corporation:
Tim Dempsey, Public Sector Consultants – No Position
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5187:
Jessica Randall, Office of State Representative Warren – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5188:
Zack Sikkema, Office of State Representative Huizenga – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 5187
and HB 5188:
Rachel Richards, Michigan Department of Treasury – Support
Jen Smith, Michigan Association of School Boards – Support
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report HB 5187 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Horn, Sen.(s) VanderWall, MacGregor, Schmidt, McMorrow, Geiss, and Moss.
Nays: Sen. Theis.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 5187. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to report HB 5188 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Horn, Sen.(s) VanderWall, MacGregor, Schmidt, McMorrow, Geiss, and Moss.
Nays: Sen. Theis.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 5188. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:39 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 20, 2020
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MEMBERS:
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. TOM BARRETT
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY AND PUBLIC
SAFETY
SENATOR PETER J. LUCIDO
CHAIR
3100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 6, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday, February 6,
2020, at 8:30 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 514 (Sen. Alexander).
2. Testimony regarding SB 195 (Sen. Chang).
3. Testimony regarding SB 196 (Sen. Lucido).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:34 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Lucido, Sen(s). VanderWall, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt the meeting minutes from January 30, 2020. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. Barrett was excused from the meeting.
The Chair invited Lamar Lemmons, of Sen. Alexander's office, to summarize SB 514.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 514:
Scott Smith, City Attorney, City of Wyoming – Oppose
Chris Johnson, Michigan Municipal League – Oppose
Chris Hackbarth, Michigan Municipal League – Oppose
Judy Allen, Michigan Townships Association – Oppose
The Chair invited Sen. Chang to summarize SB 195, and Chair Lucido summarized SB 196.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 195 – 196:
Pete Letkemann, Citizens For Prison Reform – Support
Lois Pullano, Citizens For Prison Reform – Support
Kyle Kaminski, Michigan Department of Corrections – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB's 195 - 196:
Dan Jarvis, Michigan Family Forum – Support
Trudy Williams, Family Advisory Board - Support
At the request of the bill sponsor Sen. Runestad, SB 104 was removed from the days agenda.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to
adjourn the committee. Without objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:30 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/13/2020


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ARIC NESBITT
SEN. ED MCBROOM
SEN. CURTIS HERTEL, JR., MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ADVICE AND CONSENT
SENATOR PETER J. LUCIDO
CHAIR
3100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 6, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Advice and Consent was scheduled for Thursday, February 6, 2020 at
12:00 noon., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Building.
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The agenda summary is as follows:
1. A hearing to consider the appointment of Mr. Stephen F. Adamini and Mr. Todd A. Wyett to the
Michigan State Transportation Commission.
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The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:01 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Lucido, Sen.(s) LaSata, Nesbitt, McBroom and Hertel, a quorum
was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to adopt the meeting minutes from the February 5, 2020
meeting. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Mr. Stephen F. Adamini and Mr. Todd A. Wyett to provide the committee with their
introductory statements. Member questions followed.
A card was read of one individual who did not wish to present testimony regarding the appointment of Mr.
Todd A. Wyett:
Jon Cool, Michigan Railroad Association - Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the meeting. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:11 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/13/2020


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MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN BIZON, M.D., MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA
SEN. MICHAEL D. MACDONALD
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. WINNIE BRINKS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. CURTIS HERTEL, JR.
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
CHAIR
4500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1725
FAX: (517) 373-0741
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 6, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy and Human Services was scheduled for Thursday,
February 6, 2020, at 1:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 612 (Sen. VanderWall).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:01 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, Johnson, LaSata, MacDonald, Theis,
Brinks, Hertel, and Wojno, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bizon to adopt the meeting minutes from January 30, 2020. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 612:
Donna Baker Miller and Barbara Moore, MCG Health – Neutral
Dominick Pallone and Dr. Peter Graham, Michigan Association of Health Plans – Oppose
Kathy Jo Uecker, Michigan/National Medical Group Managers – Support
Mark Cook and Dr. Marc Keshishian, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan – Oppose
Dr. Dennis Ramus, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Dr. Harold Moores, Emergency Care Specialists – Support
Brian O'Connell, General Motors – Oppose
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 612:
Kelly McGivern, Molina Healthcare – Oppose
Jacquelen Timm, Michigan Council of Nurse Practitioners – Support
Dr. Perry Pernicano, Michigan Radiological Society – Support
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Santana was
excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:33 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 13, 2020
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MEMBERS:
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
SEN. BETTY JEAN ALEXANDER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SENATOR DALE W. ZORN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-3543
FAX: (517) 373-0927
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 6, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Local Government was scheduled for Thursday, February 6, 2020, at
1:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 762 (Sen. Horn).
2. Testimony regarding SB 719 (Sen. Lucido).
3. Testimony regarding SB 712 (Sen. Bumstead).
4. Testimony regarding SB 713 (Sen. Bumstead).
5. Testimony regarding SB 692 (Sen. Zorn).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m. He instructed the clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Zorn, Sen.(s) Johnson, Daley, and Moss, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Daley to adopt the meeting minutes from October 31, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Horn and his constituent, Mr. Tim Morales from the City of Saginaw, to summarize
SB 762.
The cards were read of those individuals who did not wish to testify regarding SB 762:
Rachel Richards, Michigan Department of Treasury – Support
Chris Hackbarth, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Madison Clements, Saginaw Chamber of Commerce - Support
The Chair invited Sen. Lucido to summarize SB 719.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 719:
Deena Bosworth, Michigan Association of Counties - Oppose
The cards were read of those individuals who did not wish to testify regarding SB 719:
Chris Hackbarth, Michigan Municipal League – Oppose
Tom Frazier, Michigan Townships Association – Oppose
The Chair invited Sen. Bumstead to summarize SB's 712 – 713:
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 712-713:
Chris Hackbarth, Michigan Municipal League – Support
John Schrier, City of Muskegon - Support
Chair Zorn summarized SB 692.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 692:
Clay Powell, Rental Property Owners Association of Michigan – Support
Wendy Patton, Michigan Real Estate Investors – Support
The cards were read of those individuals who did not wish to testify regarding SB 692:
Tom Frazier, Michigan Townships Association – Oppose
Chris Hackbarth, Michigan Municipal League - Oppose
The Chair moved to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Alexander was
excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:44 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02.13.2020


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36TH DISTRICT
SENJSTAMAS@SENATE.MICHIGAN.GOV
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR JIM STAMAS
CHAIR
S-324 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7946
FAX: (517) 373-2678
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
February 6, 2020
A joint meeting of the Senate Committee on Appropriations and the House Committee on Appropriations
was scheduled for Thursday, February 6, 2019, at 10:30 a.m., in the House Appropriations Room of the
Capitol Building.
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The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation of Governor Whitmer's 2021 and 2022 budget recommendation.
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The Chairman called the meeting to order at 10:30 a.m.
The Chairman welcomed Budget Director Chris Kolb and thanked the House Committee on Appropriations
members for hosting this year's budget presentation.
The Chairman instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the following members were present;
Chairman Stamas, Sen.(s) Bumstead, MacGregor, Bizon, LaSata, MacDonald, Nesbitt, Outman, Runestad,
Schmidt, Hertel, Irwin, Santana, McCann, and Bayer, a quorum was present.
The Chairman moved, supported by Sen. Hertel, to excuse absent members from the committee meeting.
Without objection, Sen.(s) Barrett, Victory, and Hollier were excused.
Budget Director Kolb presented Governor Whitmer's fiscal year 2021 and 2022 budget recommendations to
the committees.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chairman entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel,
supported by Sen. Bumstead, to adjourn the meeting at 11:45 a.m. Without objection, the committee was
adjourned.
Date Adopted by Committee: 2-19-20
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