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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JOHN FITZGERALD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 18, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to order by
Chair Fitzgerald.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn,
Paquette, Bezotte, BeGole, Prestin.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Shannon joined the committee remotely.
Representative Breen moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4312 and HB 4313 before the committee:
HB 4312
(Rep. Roth)
A bill to amend 1982 PA 162, entitled "Nonprofit
corporation act," by amending section 123 (MCL
450.2123), as amended by 2014 PA 557.
HB 4313
(Rep. Coffia)
A bill to amend 1897 PA 230, entitled "An act to
provide for the formation of corporations for the
purpose of owning, maintaining, and improving
lands and other property kept for the purposes of
summer resorts or for ornament, recreation, or
amusement; to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state governmental officers and entities;
and to repeal acts and parts of acts," (MCL 455.1
to 455.24) by adding section 19.
Representative Roth, along with Fred Baker, representing the Neahtawanta Resort
Association, testified in support of HB 4312 and HB 4313. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4312 and HB 4313, but
did not wish to speak:
Mack Jones, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
The Chair laid HB 4977 and HB 4978 before the committee:
HB 4977
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1889 PA 39, entitled "An act to
authorize the formation of corporations for the
purchase and improvement of grounds to be
occupied for summer homes, for camp-meetings,
for meetings of assemblies or associations and
societies organized for intellectual and scientific
culture and for the promotion of the cause of
religion and morality, or for any or all of such
purposes; and to impose certain duties on the
department of commerce," (MCL 455.51 to
455.72) by adding section 12a.
HB 4978
(Rep. Roth)
A bill to amend 1982 PA 162, entitled "Nonprofit
corporation act," by amending section 123 (MCL
450.2123), as amended by 2014 PA 557.
Representative Roth, along with Fred Baker, representing the Neahtawanta Summer Resort
Association, testified in support of HB 4977 and HB 4978. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4977 and HB 4978, but
did not wish to speak:
Mack Jones, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatorty Affairs.
The Chair laid SB 337 before the committee:
SB 337
(Sen. Polehanki)
A bill to amend 1970 PA 132, entitled "An act to
provide for the filing of surveys in the office of the
register of deeds relative to land divisions; and to
prescribe the conditions of the survey," by
amending sections 1, 2, and 3 (MCL 54.211,
54.212, and 54.213), sections 1 and 3 as amended
by 2018 PA 193 and section 2 as amended by 1988
PA 24.
Cailtin Stadler, representing the Office of Senator Polehanki, and Arthur Brintnall,
representing the Michigan Society of Professional Surveyors, testified in support of SB 337.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 337, but did not wish to speak:
Ron Brenke, representing the American Society of Engineering Companies.
Ryan Roth, representing the Michigan Society of Professional Engineers.
Amanda Tomich, representing the Michigan Assessors Association.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Fitzgerald adjourned the
meeting at 12:34 PM.
Representative John Fitzgerald, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 18, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price,
VanWoerkom, Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 150 before the committee:
SB 150
(Sen. Chang)
A bill to amend 1973 PA 186, entitled "Tax
tribunal act," by amending section 62 (MCL
205.762), as amended by 2008 PA 128.
Ellen Heinitz, representing Senator Chang's Office, and Patricia Halm, representing the
Michigan Tax Tribunal, testified in support of SB 150.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 150, but did not wish to speak:
Nathan Triplett, representing the State Bar of Michigan.
Mack Jonas, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Amanda Tomich, representing the Michigan Assessors Association.
Representative Brenda Carter moved to report out SB 150 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4905 and HB 4906 before the committee:
HB 4905
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
by amending section 4cc (MCL 205.94cc), as
added by 2015 PA 252.
HB 4906
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled "General
sales tax act," by amending section 4ee (MCL
205.54ee), as added by 2015 PA 251.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4905 and HB 4906, but did not wish
to speak:
Mike O'Brien, representing the Indiana Michigan Power Company.
Amanda Tomich, representing the Michigan Assessors Association.
Kyle McCree, representing Consumers Energy.
Rusty Merchant, representing the Economic Development Leaders for Michigan.
Brian O'Connell, representing General Motors.
Representative Price moved to report out HB 4905 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Brixie.
Rob Cleveland, representing Cornerstone Alliance, testified in support of HB 4905 and HB
4906. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Price moved to report out HB 4906 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Brixie.
The Chair laid HB 4936 and HB 4937 before the committee:
HB 4936
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
section 677a.
HB 4937
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
section 677.
Representative Carter moved to refer HB 4936 to the Committee on Higher Education. The
motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Whitsett moved to refer HB 4937 to the Committee on Higher Education. The
motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:23 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. JEREMY MOSS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, INSURANCE,
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
SENATOR MARY CAVANAGH
CHAIR
6500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7748
FAX: (517) 373-1387
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 18, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance, Insurance, and Consumer Protection was scheduled for
Wednesday, October 18, 2023, at 12:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 530 (S-4) (Sen. Cavanagh) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 531 (S-2) (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 575 (Sen. Moss) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4926 (Rep. Brenda Carter) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:33 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis and
Daley, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to adopt the Theis amendment #1 to the (S-4) version of SB 530.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
Nays: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, and Irwin.
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to adopt the (S-4) version of SB 530. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-4) was adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 530:
Jared Fleisher, Rocket Companies – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 530, SB
531 and SB 575:
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Erin McDonough, Insurance Alliance of Michigan – Opposition
Joseph Sullivan, Department of Insurance and Financial Services – Opposition
Cheryl Bush, Linda St. Amant, and David St. Amant, We Can't Wait – Support
James Ryan, Med-Share – Opposition
April Brown and Brian Harrison, AdvisaCare Home Health – Support
Tim Langholz, NFIB – Opposition
Maureen Howell, Resident – Support
Jim Howell, Resident – Support
Sam Howell, Resident – Support
Wesley Bush, Resident – No Position
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report the (S-4) version of SB 530 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, and Irwin.
Nays: Sen.(s) Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 531. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report the (S-2) version of SB 531 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, and Irwin.
Nays: Sen.(s) Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to report SB 575 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, and Irwin.
Nays: Sen.(s) Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4926:
Jonathon Wertheimer, The office of Rep. Brenda Carter – Support
Mike Johnston, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Support
Peter Morman, Department of Treasury – Support
At 12:46 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 12:49 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4926:
Tim Langholz, NFIB – Support
Leah Robinson, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Support
Judy Allen, Michigan Townships Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report HB 4926 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis, and Daley.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:50 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 11/01/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 18, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, October 18, 2023, at 12:30
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 482 (Sen. McDonald Rivet).
2. Testimony regarding SB 44 (S-2) (Sen. Wojno).
3. Testimony regarding SB 45 (Sen. Santana).
4. Reported SB 249 (Sen. Hertel) with recommendation.
5. Reported SB 449 (Sen. Daley) with recommendation.
6. Reported SB 450 (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:39 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. McDonald Rivet to summarize SB 482.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 482:
Travis Boeskool, Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy – Support
Elizabeth Kutter, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
Andrew Daniels, Hills and Dales Healthcare – Support
Monica Martinez, Michigan Society of Eye Physicians and Surgeons – Support
Sen. Wojno offered an (S-2) version of SB 44.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 44. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair invited Sen.(s) Wojno and Santana to summarize SB 44 and SB 45.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 44:
Michigan Developmental Disabilities Council – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 44 and
SB 45:
Jess Averill, Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and Treatment Board – Support
Paige Fults, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 249:
Aaron Squeo, UFCW 876 – Oppose
At 12:49 p.m., the Chair called for the committee to go at ease.
At 12:50 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to report SB 249 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 449 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 450 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:52 p.m.
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21ST DISTRICT
SANTHONY@SENATE.MICHIGAN.GOV
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR SARAH ANTHONY
CHAIR
324 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-6960
FAX: (517) 373-0897
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 18, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Appropriations was scheduled for Wednesday, October 18, 2023, at 2:00
p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room of the Capitol Building.
1) Reported SB 23 (S-1) (Sen. McBroom) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2) Reported SB 350 (S-1) (Sen. Bayer) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3) Reported SB 555 (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:07 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana,
Shink, Irwin, Hertel, Cavanagh, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, Albert, Damoose, Huizenga,
Outman and Theis, a quorum was present.
The Chair moved, supported by Sen. Shink, to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB 23, and invited Ryan Bergan from the Senate Fiscal Agency to summarize the (S-1)
version of SB 23 for the committee.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony regarding SB 23 (S-1):
Sheryl Kennedy, Michigan Department of Education - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow, supported by Sen. Cavanagh, to adopt the (S-1) version of
SB 23. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Cavanagh, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, Albert, Damoose, Huizinga, Outman, and Theis
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer, supported by Sen. McDonald Rivet, to report SB 23 (S-1) to the
floor with recommendation that is pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Cavanagh, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, Albert, Huizinga, Outman, and Theis
Nays: Sen. Damoose
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry, supported by Sen. McCann, to recommend immediate effect for
SB 23 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was recommended.
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The Chair brought up SB 350, and invited Sen. Bayer to summarize the (S-1) version of the bill.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB 350 (S-1):
Katie Witkowski, MI Community College Association – Support
Rob Mass, MI Department of Treasury – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer, supported by Sen. Cavanagh, to adopt the (S-1) version of SB
350. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Cavanagh, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, Damoose, Huizinga and Outman
Nays: Sen. Albert
Pass: Sen. Theis
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin, supported by Sen. Hertel, to report SB 350 (S-1) to the floor with
recommendation that is pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Cavanagh, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, Damoose, Huizinga and Outman
Nays: Sen(s). Albert and Theis
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McCann, supported by Sen. Cherry, to recommend immediate effect for
SB 350 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was recommended.
The Chair brought up SB 555.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB 555:
Rob Mass, MI Department of Treasury – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri, supported by Sen. McMorrow, to report SB 555 to the floor
with recommendation that is pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Cavanagh, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, Damoose, Huizinga and Outman
Nays: Sen(s). Albert and Theis
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana, supported by Sen. Klinefelt, to recommend immediate effect
for SB 555. Without objection, immediate effect was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert, supported
by Sen. McCann, to adjourn the committee at 2:21 p.m. Without objection, the committee was adjourned
Date adopted by Committee:.11-8-23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
SENATOR SAM SINGH
CHAIR
S-8 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-3447
FAX: (517) 373-5849
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 18, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Oversight was scheduled for Wednesday, October 18, 2023, at 8:30 a.m.,
in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 493 (Sen. Santana).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki and McBroom, a quorum
was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to adopt the meeting minutes from September 13, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Lindsey was
excused from the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 493:
Sen. Sylvia Santana – Support
Keith Barber, Michigan Corrections Ombudsman – Support
Charlene Burkett, Indiana Department of Corrections Ombudsman – Support
Maria Goellner, Families for Justice Reform – Support
Meghann Sanger, William Walker, and Lois Pullano, Citizens for Prison Reform – Support
Kyle Kaminski, Michigan Department of Corrections – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 493:
Jack Wagner, Michigan Justice Advocacy – Support
Tony Gant, Nation Outside – Support
John Cooper, Safe and Just Michigan – Support
At 9:19 a.m., the Chair left the meeting and the Vice Chair presided.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to
adjourn the committee at 9:24 a.m.. Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
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Date adopted by committee: 10/25/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 18, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Elections and Ethics was scheduled for Wednesday, October 18, 2023, at
3:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 570 (Sen. McMorrow).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:03 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson
and McBroom, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023 committee
meeting. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. McMorrow to summarize SB 570. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 570:
Erica Peresman, Promote the Vote – Support
Larry Kestenbaum, Washtenaw Co. Clerk/Register of Deeds – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 570:
Sheri Ritchie, Michigan Fair Election; Pure Integrity MI Election – Opposed
Erin Schor, MDOS – Neutral
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:37 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 26, 2023
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location: Room 519, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 19, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia,
Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: Rep. Roth.
Excused: Rep. Roth.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5027 before the committee:
HB 5027
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 109o.
Representative Pohutsky testified in support of HB 5027.
Ashley Svenson, representing Myriad, testified in support of HB 5027.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5027, but did not wish to speak:
Dr. John Fox, representing Illumina.
Laura Bonnel, representing the Bonnell Foundation Living with Cystic Fibrosis.
Danielle Sirianni, representing the Michigan County Social Services Association.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal & Child Health.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Chair Rogers laid before the committee a presentation from the Michigan Department of
Health and Human Services on the newly announced Advancing Healthy Births: An Equity
Plan for Michigan Families & Communities. Dawn Shanafelt and Chardae Burton gave a
presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid SB 513 before the committee:
SB 513
(Sen. McBroom)
A bill to amend 1987 PA 230, entitled "Municipal
health facilities corporations act," by amending
section 305a (MCL 331.1305a), as amended by
2017 PA 148.
Representative VanderWall moved to report out SB 513 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4276 before the committee:
HB 4276
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
sections 105i and 105j.
Substitute H-2 to HB 4276 was previously adopted on October 12, 2023.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4276, but did not wish to speak:
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4276. The motion prevailed 17-
0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Schmaltz.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Thompson.
Representative Conlin moved to report out HB 4276 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
3). The motion prevailed 17-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Schmaltz.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Thompson.
The Chair laid HB 5178 and HB 5179 before the committee:
HB 5178
(Rep. Rheingans)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 7401, 7403,
7404, 7453, and 7457 (MCL 333.7401, 333.7403,
333.7404, 333.7453, and 333.7457), section 7401
as amended by 2016 PA 548, section 7403 as
amended by 2016 PA 307, section 7404 as
amended by 2016 PA 308, section 7453 as added
by 1988 PA 139, and section 7457 as amended by
2006 PA 458, and by adding section 5137.
HB 5179
(Rep. Rheingans)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 7451 (MCL
333.7451), as added by 1988 PA 139.
The Clerk read a letter from Chair Rogers referring HB 5178 and HB 5179 to the Health
Policy Subcommittee on Behavioral Health.
The Chair laid HB 5167 and HB 5168 before the committee:
HB 5167
(Rep. Neeley)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 109o.
HB 5168
(Rep. Edwards)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406z.
Representative Neeley testified in support of HB 5167 and HB 5168. Questions and
discussion followed.
Carrie Bell, MD, representing the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
(ACOG) Physicians, testified in support of HB 5167 and HB 5168. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5167, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Collin McDonough, representing the American Heart Association.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5167 and HB 5168, but did not wish
to speak:
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal & Child Health.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
The Chair laid HB 5166 before the committee:
HB 5166
(Rep. Young)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 9130.
Representative Young testified in support of HB 5166. Questions and discussion followed.
Vernice Anthony and Kizzy Montgomery, both representing the Southeast Michigan
Perinatal Quality Collaborative (SEMPQIC), testified in support of HB 5166.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5166, but did not wish to speak:
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal & Child Health.
The Chair laid HB 5172 before the committee:
HB 5172
(Rep. Glanville)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 9129.
Representative Glanville testified in support of HB 5172. Questions and discussion followed.
Vashali Bhargava, representing the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
(ACOG), testified in support of HB 5172. Questions and discussion followed.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal & Child Health, testified in
support of HB 5172. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid HB 4728 before the committee:
HB 4728
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 9123 (MCL
333.9123), as amended by 2021 PA 128.
Sarah Clark, representing Bronson Hospital, testified in support of HB 4728.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4728, but did not wish to speak:
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association.
Kelly Doyle, representing the HIV / AIDS Alliance of Michigan.
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal & Child Health.
Representative VanderWall moved to excuse Representative Roth from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:59 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 19, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: Reps. Aragona, Bruck.
Excused: None.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4944 and HB 4963 before the committee:
HB 4944
(Rep. Zorn)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406z.
HB 4963
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406aa.
Representative Steckloff testified in support of HB 4944 and HB 4963. Questions and
discussion followed.
Representative Zorn testified in support of HB 4944 and HB 4963. Questions and discussion
followed.
Sidney Kraizman, representing the Michigan Alexander Graham Bell Association, Tressa
Sanders, Dr Samantha Kesteloot representing the Edcuational audiologist at Trenton's Oral
Program for the deaf/hard of hearing, and KT Maviglia-Morgan testified in support questions
and discussion followed.
Annie Urasky, representing the Director for the Michigan Department of Civil Rights,
testified in support of HB 4944 and HB 4963.
Teddy Dorsette, III representing the Michigan Coalition for Deaf, Hard of Hearing and
Deafblind, testified in support of HB 4944 and HB 4963.
Derid Adams, representing the Michigan Coalition for Deaf, Hard of Hearing and DeafBlind,
testified in support of HB 4944 and HB 4963.
Tyler Smeltlzop, representing the Michigan State University, testified in support of HB 4944
and HB 4963.
Jerome Reide, representing the Michigan Department of Civil Rights, testified in support of
HB 4944 and HB 4963.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4944 and HB 4963, but did not wish
to speak:
Dr Casey Stach and Dr. Chelsea Conrad, representing the Michigan Audiology Coalition.
Michelle Roberts, representing the Disability Rights Michigan.
Sherry Boyd, representing ARC-MI.
Nancy Asher.
Kaci Pellar, representing the Detroit Disability Power Policy Manager.
Jeffrey Astrein, representing the Hearing Loss Association of America, Michigan State
Association.
Dan Seraphinoff, representing the Alexander Graham Bell Association for the Deaf and
Hard of Hearing.
Dr Case Stach and Dr. Chelsea Conrad, representing the Michigan Audiology Coalition.
Dawn Kettinger, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation from the Coalition Protecting Auto No-
Fault. Questions and discussion followed.
At 9:41 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:42 AM, Majority Vice Chair McFall called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation from Representative Brenda Carter and
her husband Randy Carter of a memorial for their late sons Christopher L. Carter and Bryan J
Canty.
At 9:45 AM, Majority Vice Chair McFall laid the committee at ease.
At 9:46 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair invited Tom Judd, the Executive Director of the Michigan Brain Injury Provider
Council to give a presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair invited Chalisse Wilson, representing We Can't Wait, CPAN to give a presentation
to the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair invited Bob Mlynarek, representing the Co-owner of the 1st Call Home
Healthcare, to give a presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair invited Tammy Hannah, representing the President and CEO of the Origami
Rehabilitation, to give a presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Harris moved to excuse Representatives Bruck and Aragona from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Young moved to
adjourn, Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the meeting at 10:29 AM.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 19, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela,
Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4932 and HB 4962 before the committee:
HB 4932
(Rep. Skaggs)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 90, entitled "Youth
employment standards act," by amending sections
2, 3, 20, 21, and 22 (MCL 409.102, 409.103,
409.120, 409.121, and 409.122), section 2 as
amended by 1996 PA 438, section 3 as amended
by 1997 PA 132, and section 22 as amended by
1980 PA 436.
HB 4962
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 14b
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.14b), as added by
2002 PA 29.
A substitute (H-1) was adopted for HB 4932 at the October 12th, 2023 meeting.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4932 and HB 4962, but did not wish
to speak:
Allen D. Lee, representing the Restaurant Opportunities Centers Michigan.
Representative Kunse introduced and explained his package of amendments to HB 4932 (H-
1). Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendment to HB 4932 (H-1):
1. Amend page 5, line 4, by striking out all of subdivision (c).
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4932 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendment to HB 4932 (H-1):
1. Amend page 5, line 12, by striking out all of subsection (5).
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4932 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendments to HB 4932 (H-1):
1. Amend page 6, line 26, after "not" by striking out the balance of the subdivision
and inserting "more than $68,801.00 or, if the violation is repeated or willful, not more
than $137,602.00.".
2. Amend page 7, line 1, after "not" by striking out the balance of the subdivision and
inserting "more than $68,801.00 or, if the violation is repeated or willful, not more than
$137,602.00.".
3. Amend page 7, line 5, after "not" by striking out the balance of the subdivision and
inserting "more than $68,801.00 or, if the violation is repeated or willful, not more than
$137,602.00.".
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4932 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Mentzer moved to report out HB 4932 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller.
Representative O'Neal moved to report out HB 4962 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller.
The Chair laid HB 5026 before the committee:
HB 5026
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to provide for the transition of transition-
impacted industries into new industries; to create
the community and worker economic transition
office in the department of labor and economic
opportunity; to create certain advisory
committees; and to provide for the powers and
duties of certain state governmental officers and
entities.
Representative Martus and Senator Singh testified in support of HB 5026. Questions and
discussion followed.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial
Organizations, testified in support of HB 5026.
Jean Duchemin, representing the United Auto Workers Local 1753, testified in support of HB
5026.
Jason Peek, representing the United Auto Workers Local 602, testified in support of HB 5026.
Questions and discussion followed.
Robert Joerg, representing the Laborers' International Union of North America, testified in
support of HB 5026. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5026, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Council of Governments.
Amy Malmer, representing the Metropolitan Affairs Coalition.
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Utility Workers Union of America.
Dawn Kettinger, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5026, but did not wish to speak:
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The Chair laid SB 169 before the committee:
SB 169
(Sen. Cherry)
A bill to amend 1947 PA 336, entitled "An act to
prohibit strikes by certain public employees; to
provide review from disciplinary action with
respect thereto; to provide for the mediation of
grievances and the holding of elections; to declare
and protect the rights and privileges of public
employees; to require certain provisions in
collective bargaining agreements; to prescribe
means of enforcement and penalties for the
violation of the provisions of this act; and to make
appropriations," (MCL 423.201 to 423.217) by
adding section 11a.
Senator Cherry, and Jonavan Luckey, representing the Service Employees International
Union 517M, testified in support of SB 169. Questions and discussion followed.
Steve Rzeppa, representing the American Federation of State, County and Municipal
Employees, testified in support of SB 169. Questions and discussion followed.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards, testified in
opposition to SB 169.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 169, but did not wish to speak:
Dr. David Michelson, representing the Michigan Education Association.
Beth Kelly Byrd, representing the Service Employees International Union Michigan.
Matt Sowash, representing the Police Officers Association of Michigan.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial
Organizations of Michigan.
Dawn Kettinger, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 169, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Schueller, representing the Michigan Association for Superintendents and
Administrators.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Alliance for Student Opportunity.
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 10:22 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, TOURISM AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION
REP. LAURIE POHUTSKY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 19, 2023
10:45 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Natural Resources, Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation
was called to order by Chair Pohutsky.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Hill moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5028 before the committee:
HB 5028
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to invalidate certain provisions in
homeowners' association agreements that prohibit
the replacement, maintenance, installation, or
operation of certain energy-saving improvements
or modifications or the installation of solar energy
systems; to provide for the adoption of certain
policy statements; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state and local governmental officers
and entities.
Representative Puri introduced the(H-1) substitute for HB 5028.
Brad Ward, representing Michigan Realtors, testified in opposition of HB 5028.
The Chair laid HB 4824, HB 4825 and HB 4826 before the committee:
HB 4824
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 20120a (MCL 324.20120a), as
amended by 2018 PA 581.
HB 4825
(Rep. Hill)
A bill to amend 1986 PA 182, entitled "State
police retirement act of 1986," by amending
section 66 (MCL 38.1666), as added by 2018 PA
674.
HB 4826
(Rep. MacDonell)
A bill to amend 1969 PA 306, entitled
"Administrative procedures act of 1969," by
amending sections 33, 39a, 41, 42, 43, 44, 47, and
48 (MCL 24.233, 24.239a, 24.241, 24.242,
24.243, 24.244, 24.247, and 24.248), as amended
by 2018 PA 267; and to repeal acts and parts of
acts.
Representatives McKinney, Hill and MacDonell testified in support of HBs 4824-4826.
Questions and discussion followed.
Travis Boeskool and Aaron Keatley, both representing the Michigan Department of
Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy, testified in support of HBs 4824-4826. Questions and
discussion followed.
Christy McGillivary, representing the Michigan Sierra Club, testified in support of HBs 4824-
4826.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters, testified in
support of HBs 4824-4826.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4824, HB 4825 and HB 4826, but
did not wish to speak:
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4824, HB 4825 and HB 4826, but
did not wish to speak:
Tim Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4826, but did not wish to speak:
Megan Tinsley, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4826, but did not wish to speak:
Caroline Liethen, representing the Michigan Manufactures Assoctaion.
Mike Alamino, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
Ben Tirrell, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
The committee returned to consideration of HB 5028.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5028. The motion prevailed 7-1-
1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin.
Nays: Rep. Schriver.
Pass: Rep. Prestin.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 5028 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 6-3-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz.
Nays: Reps. Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5028, but did not wish to speak:
Aaron Viles, representing the Electrification Coalition.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Pohutsky adjourned the meeting
at 11:30 AM.
Representative Laurie Pohutsky, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
October 19, 2023, at 12:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4476 (Rep. Arbit).
2. Testimony regarding HB 4477 (Rep. Puri).
3. Reported HB 4520 (S-1) (Rep. Mueller) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4521 (S-1) (Rep. Breen) with recommendation.
5. Reported HB 4021 (Rep. VanderWall) with recommendation.
6. Reported SB 592 (Sen. Bayer) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:12 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from the October 12, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4476 (Rep. Arbit) and HB 4477 (Rep. Puri) and invited them to summarize the bills
for committee.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4476 – 4477:
Via Zoom, Muhammad Ahmad, Ahmadiyya Muslim Community Center – Support
Via Zoom, Rabbi Michael Schadick, Temple Emanuel Grand Rapids MI – Support
Via Zoom, Nada Al-Hanooti, Emgage Michigan – Support
Via Zoom, Carolyn Normandin, Anti-Defamation League of Michigan – Support
Ashley Steffen, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
LaDonna Logan, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
Solicitor General Ann Sherman, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4476-4477:
Heath B. Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support
Tom Hickson, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
Nikki Singh, The Sikh Coalition – Support
Alanna Maguire, Fair Michigan Foundation – Support
Michael Kuper, Jewish Community Relations Council/American Jewish Committee of Detroit – Support
Samir Kalra, Hindu American Foundation – Support HB 4476
Brandon Lanyon, Prosecuting Attorneys Association of MI – Support
Melina Brann, National Association of Social Workers – Support
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights of Michigan – Support
Kelly Doyle, HIV / AIDS Alliance of Michigan – Support
Sheri Boyd, ARC Michigan – Support
The Chair brought up SB 592, and invited Sen. Bayer to summarize the bill for committee.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 592:
Ashley Steffen, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
Matt Walker, Mi Department of Attorney General – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 592 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4520 (S-1) and HB 4521 (S-1).
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4520 (S-1) and 4521 (S-1):
Kevin McKinney, Michigan Osteopathic Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4520 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4521 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4021.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4021 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:23 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/31/2023


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MEMBERS:
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. ROGER HAUCK, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY AFFAIRS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Regulatory Affairs was scheduled for Thursday, October 19, 2023, at
8:30 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 393 (Sen. Bayer) and SB 394 (Sen. Bayer).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:31 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck,
Webber, Lauwers and Bellino, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bellino to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Bayer to explain Senate Bills 393 and 394.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 393 and SB 394:
Emily Cord-Duthinh, University of Detroit, President Blue Heron Headwaters Coservancy – Support
Travis Boeskool, Deputy Director, EGLE – Support
Bryan Burroughs, EPRC, former member – Neutral
Megan Tinsley, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 393 and
SB 394:
Michael Alaimo, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
Ben Tirrell, Michigan Farm Bureau – Opposition
Caroline Leithen, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Opposition
Nick Occhipinti, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
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Tim Langholz, NFIB – Opposition
Tim Minotas, Sierra Club, Michigan Chapter – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:04 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 26, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR MALLORY MCMORROW
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2523
FAX: (517) 373-5669
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Community Development was scheduled for Thursday,
October 19, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 559 (Sen. McMorrow), SB 560 (Sen. Cavanagh), SB 561 (Sen. McMorrow),
SB 562 (Sen. Cavanagh), SB 569 (Sen. Moss), SB 579 (Sen. Singh), SB 580 (Sen. Cavanagh) and SB
581 (Sen. Singh).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:08 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet,
Moss, Geiss, Victory, Lindsey and Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 559, SB 560, SB 561, SB 562,
SB 569, SB 579, SB 580 and SB 581:
Jennifer Hayes, Invest Detroit – Support
Tim Bartik, Senior Economist, Upjohn Institute – No Position
Mike Johnston, MMA – Opposition
Quentin Messer, MDEC – Neutral
Lindsay Case Palsrok, Business Leaders for Michigan – Neutral
Paul Krutko, Ann Arbor Spark – Support
Bob Trezise, Economic Development Leaders of Michigan – Neutral
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 559, SB
560, SB 561, SB 562, SB 569, SB 579, SB 580 and SB 581:
Amanda Fisher, NFIB – Opposition
Jared Fleisher, Rocket Companies – Support
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 559, SB
560, SB 561, SB 562, SB 569:
Amy Malmer, Metropolitan Affairs Coalition – Support
Judy Allen, Michigan Township Association – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:13 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee:
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 24, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 17, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 418, SB 421, SB 425, SB 426, SB 428, SB 429, SB 432, SB 435 and SB
436 before the committee:
SB 418
(Sen. Santana)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," by amending section 117a (MCL
400.117a), as amended by 2019 PA 114.
SB 421
(Sen. Klinefelt)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 288, entitled "Probate
code of 1939," by amending section 18 of chapter
XIIA (MCL 712A.18), as amended by 2022 PA
209.
SB 425
(Sen. Shink)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 620, entitled "Appellate
defender act," by amending the title and sections
2, 4, 6, and 7 (MCL 780.712, 780.714, 780.716,
and 780.717) and by adding sections 1a and 8a.
SB 426
(Sen. Wojno)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 117k.
SB 428
(Sen. Chang)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 288, entitled "Probate
code of 1939," by amending sections 2f, 18, 28,
and 29 of chapter XIIA (MCL 712A.2f, 712A.18,
712A.28, and 712A.29), section 2f as added by
2016 PA 185, section 18 as amended by 2022 PA
209, section 28 as amended by 2020 PA 362, and
section 29 as amended by 2003 PA 74, and by
adding section 29a to chapter XIIA; and to repeal
acts and parts of acts.
SB 429
(Sen. Irwin)
A bill to amend 1990 PA 250, entitled "DNA
identification profiling system act," by amending
section 6 (MCL 28.176), as amended by 2018 PA
310.
SB 432
(Sen. Victory)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 204, entitled "The
children's ombudsman act," by amending the title
and sections 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5a, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and
12 (MCL 722.921, 722.922, 722.923, 722.924,
722.925, 722.925a, 722.926, 722.927, 722.928,
722.929, 722.930, 722.931, and 722.932), the title
and sections 3, 5, and 11 as amended by 2004 PA
560, sections 2 and 6 as amended by 2020 PA 186,
sections 4 and 10 as amended by 2014 PA 243,
section 5a as amended by 2014 PA 455, sections 7
and 8 as amended by 2013 PA 38, and section 9 as
amended by 2020 PA 185.
SB 435
(Sen. Polehanki)
A bill to amend 1973 PA 116, entitled "An act to
provide for the protection of children through the
licensing and regulation of child care
organizations; to provide for the establishment of
standards of care for child care organizations; to
prescribe powers and duties of certain departments
of this state and adoption facilitators; to provide
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending sections 5a and 10 (MCL 722.115a and
722.120), section 5a as added by 1994 PA 205 and
section 10 as amended by 2022 PA 69.
SB 436
(Sen. Damoose)
A bill to amend 1975 PA 238, entitled "Child
protection law," by amending sections 7, 7b, and
7k (MCL 722.627, 722.627b, and 722.627k),
section 7 as amended by 2022 PA 68, section 7b as
amended by 2011 PA 89, and section 7k as added
by 2011 PA 67.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 418, SB 421, SB 425, SB 426, SB
428, SB 429, SB 432, SB 435 and SB 436, but did not wish to speak:
Trevor VanDyke, representing the State Court Administrative Office.
Jennifer Peacock, representing the Michigan Center for Youth Justice.
Ashley Steffen, representing the Michigan Department of Attorney General.
Thom Lattig, representing the Michigan Association of Family Court Administrators.
Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Matt Saxton, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association.
Paul Stankewitz, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 418, SB 421, SB 426, SB 428 and
SB 429, but did not wish to speak:
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 418, but did not wish to speak:
Maureen Watson-Bolger, representing BizStream.
Representative Andrews moved to report out SB 418 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out SB 421 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-1-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Rep. Mueller.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Breen moved to report out SB 425 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Young moved to report out SB 426 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller, Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Harris.
Representative Arbit moved to report out SB 428 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Mueller, BeGole.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out SB 429 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: None.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report out SB 432 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Andrews moved to report out SB 435 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out SB 436 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
At 9:20 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:21 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4917 and HB 4918 before the committee:
HB 4917
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 16d
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.16d), as amended by
2016 PA 88.
HB 4918
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," (MCL 750.1 to 750.568) by
adding section 81g.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4917 and HB 4918, but did not wish
to speak:
Jon Cool, representing the Railroads Association.
Clark Harder, representing the Michigan Public Transit Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4917 and HB 4918, but did not
wish to speak:
Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Representative Breen moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4917. The motion prevailed 11-
0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller, Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Harris.
Representative Young moved to report out HB 4917 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
2). The motion prevailed 11-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller, Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Harris.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4918. The motion prevailed 11-
0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller, Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Harris.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 4918 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 11-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Mueller, Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Harris.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
9:25 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS
REP. JASON M HOSKINS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 24, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Economic Development and Small Business was called to order by
Chair Hoskins.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
The Chair laid HB 5095, HB 5104, HB 5105, HB 5106 and HB 5107 before the committee:
HB 5095
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 2018 PA 540, entitled "Economic
development incentive evaluation act," by
amending section 3 (MCL 18.1753).
HB 5104
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled "Michigan
strategic fund act," by amending sections 5, 9, 88s,
and 88t (MCL 125.2005, 125.2009, 125.2088s,
and 125.2088t), section 5 as amended by 2023 PA
24, section 9 as amended and section 88s as added
by 2021 PA 136, and section 88t as added by 2021
PA 134, and by adding sections 88u and 88v.
HB 5105
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 1921 PA 2, entitled "An act to
promote the efficiency of the government of the
state, to create a state administrative board, to
define the powers and duties thereof, to provide
for the transfer to said board of powers and duties
now vested by law in other boards, commissions,
departments and officers of the state, and for the
abolishing of certain of the boards, commissions,
departments and offices, whose powers and duties
are hereby transferred," by amending section 3
(MCL 17.3), as amended by 2021 PA 143.
HB 5106
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 2000 PA 489, entitled "Michigan
trust fund act," by amending sections 2 and 4
(MCL 12.252 and 12.254), section 2 as amended
by 2022 PA 83 and section 4 as added by 2021 PA
137.
HB 5107
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," by amending section 695 (MCL
206.695), as amended by 2023 PA 4.
At 9:08 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:09 AM, Majority Vice Chair Grant called the committee back to order.
Representative Hoskins and Senator McMorrow testified in support of HBs 5095, 5104,
5105, 5106 and 5107. Questions and discussion followed.
At 9:42 AM, Majority Vice Chair Grant laid the committee at ease.
At 9:42 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Tim Bartik, representing the Upjohn Institute, testified in support of HBs 5095 and 5104-
5107.
Quentin Messer, representing the Michigan Economic Development Corporation, testified in
support of HBs 5095 and 5104-5107.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy, testified in support of
HBs 5095 and 5104-5107.
Paul Krutko, representing Ann Arbor Spark, testified in support of HBs 5095 and 5104-5107.
Jennifer Hayes, representing Invest Detroit, testified in support of HBs 5095 and 5104-5107.
Maureen Donohue Krauss, representing the Detroit Regional Partnership and the Economic
Development Leaders for Michigan, testified in support of HBs 5095 and 5104-5107.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufactures Association, testified in opposition
of HBs 5095 and 5104-5107.
Brian O'Connell, representing General Motors, testified with no position on HBs 5095 and
5104-5107.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5095, but did not wish to speak:
Michael LaFaive, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5104, HB 5105, HB 5106 and HB
5107, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Amy Malmer, representing the Metropolitan Affairs Coalition.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufactures Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5104, HB 5105, HB 5106 and HB
5107, but did not wish to speak:
Michael LaFaive, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5096, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufactures Association.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5096. The motion prevailed 11-
0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller,
VanWoerkom, Roth, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tisdel, Martin.
Representative Coffia moved to report out HB 5096 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Representative Neeley moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 17, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
At 10:23 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 5:04 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 5099, HB 5100, HB 5101 and HB 5102 before the committee:
HB 5099
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled "Michigan
strategic fund act," by amending the title and
section 9 (MCL 125.2009), the title as amended by
2005 PA 225 and section 9 as amended by 2021
PA 136, and by adding chapter 8F.
HB 5100
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
sections 277 and 677.
HB 5101
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
sections 277a and 677a.
HB 5102
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
sections 277b and 677b.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5099, HB 5100, HB 5101 and HB
5102, but did not wish to speak:
Stephen Rapundalo, representing the MichBio.
Michael LaFaive, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5100, HB 5101 and HB 5102, but
did not wish to speak:
Gavin Goetz, representing the AT&T.
Jennifer Hayes, representing the Invest Detroit.
Representative Grant moved to report out HB 5099 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Liberati moved to report out HB 5100 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Coffia moved to report out HB 5101 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Farhat moved to report out HB 5102 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5187 before the committee:
HB 5187
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to create a research and development tax
credit program; to provide for the administration
of the research and development tax credit
program; to encourage research and development
in this state; to determine eligibility and enter into
agreements for certain tax credits; to prescribe the
powers and duties of certain state agencies,
boards, and departments; to assess and collect
certain fees.
Representative VanWoerkom raised a point of order that HB 5187 was not properly before
the committee. The Chair determined the bill was properly before the committee.
Representative Miller moved to report out HB 5187 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, Martin, St. Germaine.
Pass: Reps. VanWoerkom, Roth.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hoskins adjourned the meeting
at 5:09 PM.
Representative Jason Hoskins, Chair
Legan Rose
Acting Committee Clerk
lrose@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 24, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative DeBoyer moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 17, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 572 and SB 573 before the committee:
SB 572
(Sen. Moss)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending section 658 (MCL
168.658), as amended by 2023 PA 88.
SB 573
(Sen. Moss)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending section 661 (MCL
168.661), as amended by 2023 PA 88.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 572 and SB 573, but did not wish to
speak:
Mike Batterbee, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Bill Zaagman, representing the Michigan Association of Municipal Clerks.
Representative Koleszar moved to report out SB 572 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out SB 573 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 10:36 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY REFORM
REP. TYRONE CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 24, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Regulatory Reform was called to order by Chair Tyrone Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Liberati moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4613 and HB 4614 before the committee:
HB 4613
(Rep. Prestin)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 20952 (MCL
333.20952), as added by 1990 PA 179.
HB 4614
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 20952a.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4613 and HB 4614, but did not wish
to speak:
Sonny Koch, representing Americans for Prosperity-Michigan.
Representative Filler moved to report out HB 4613 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Aragona moved to report out HB 4614 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4885 and HB 4923 before the committee:
HB 4885
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 21907, 21909,
21911, 21913, 21915, 21919, 21921, and 21923
(MCL 333.21907, 333.21909, 333.21911,
333.21913, 333.21915, 333.21919, 333.21921,
and 333.21923), sections 21907, 21909, 21913,
21915, 21919, 21921, and 21923 as added by
2017 PA 172 and section 21911 as amended by
2022 PA 79, and by adding sections 21912, 21916,
21918, and 21920.
HB 4923
(Rep. Aragona)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 21903 and
21905 (MCL 333.21903 and 333.21905), as added
by 2017 PA 172.
Representative McKinney explained the changes in substitute (H-1) to HB 4885.
Representative McFall moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4885. The motion prevailed
15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Liberati moved to report out HB 4885 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Bierlein moved to report out HB 4923 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tyrone Carter adjourned the
meeting at 10:39 AM.
Representative Tyrone Carter, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 24, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Miller moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5103 before the committee:
HB 5103
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending sections 303 and 304
(MCL 257.303 and 257.304), section 303 as
amended by 2020 PA 376 and section 304 as
amended by 2023 PA 125.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to HB 5103:
1. Amend page 2, following line 21, by inserting:
"(g) An individual who has been convicted of, has received a juvenile disposition for, or
has been determined responsible for 2 or more moving violations under a law of this state, a local
ordinance substantially corresponding to a law of this state, or a law of another state substantially
corresponding to a law of this state within the preceding 3 years, if the violations occurred before
issuance of an original license to the person in this state, another state, or another country. This
subdivision does not apply to an individual who is a citizen of the United States or legally
present in the United States at the time of the violation." and relettering the remaining
subdivisions.
Representative Outman moved to withdraw the proposed amendment to HB 5103. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5103, but did not wish to speak:
Trevor VanDyke, representing the Supreme Court Administration Office.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 5103 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
The Chair laid HB 5056 and HB 5058 before the committee:
HB 5056
(Rep. Miller)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," (MCL 257.1 to 257.923) by adding
section 811hh.
HB 5058
(Rep. Bierlein)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," (MCL 257.1 to 257.923) by adding
section 811gg.
Representative Miller moved to report out HB 5056 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Roth moved to report out HB 5058 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4716 before the committee:
HB 4716
(Rep. BeGole)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 217c (MCL
257.217c), as amended by 2022 PA 224.
Representative Begole, joined by Chief Matt Bade, representing the Genesee Metro Police
Authority, testified in support of HB 4716. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4716, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Saxton, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association.
Representative Bruck moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4716. The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Roth moved to report out HB 4716 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5149 before the committee:
HB 5149
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 288, entitled "Probate
code of 1939," by amending sections 27a, 27b, 67,
and 68 of chapter X (MCL 710.27a, 710.27b,
710.67, and 710.68), sections 27a and 68 as
amended by 2012 PA 385, section 27b as added by
1994 PA 208, and section 67 as amended by 1994
PA 373, and by adding section 27c to chapter X.
Representative St. Germaine moved to refer HB 5149 to the Committee on Families, Children
and Seniors. The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting at
10:58 AM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
SENATOR DAYNA POLEHANKI
CHAIR
310 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7350
FAX: (517) 373-9228
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 24, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education was scheduled for Tuesday, October 24, 2023, at 1:30 p.m., in
the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 463 (S-2) (Sen. Camilleri) with recommendation.
2. Testimony regarding HB 5021 (Rep. Koleszar).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:31 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose
and Johnson, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the meeting minutes from October 17, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 463:
Sen. Darrin Camilleri – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 463. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose, and Johnson.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 463:
Christine Suave, Michigan Immigrant Rights Center – Opposition
Terri Tchorzynski, Michigan School Counselor Association – Opposition
Matt Schueller, Michigan Association of Superintendents and Administrators – Opposition
Mike Latvis, Wayne RESA – Support
Beth DeShone, GLEP Education Fund – Opposition
Sonny Koch, AFP Michigan – Opposition
Jamie Richardson, Wayne County College Access Network – Support
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to report the (S-2) version of SB 463 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, and McDonald Rivet.
Nays: Sen.(s) Damoose and Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5021:
Rep. Matt Koleszar – Support
Anthony Estell, Office of Retirement Services – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 5021:
Sonny Koch, AFP Michigan – Opposition
Royce Humm, Michigan Association of Retired School Personnel – Support
Matt Schueller, Michigan Association of Superintendents and Administrators – Support
Jennifer Smith, Michigan Association of School Boards – Support
Bob Kefgen, Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals – Support
James Hohman, Mackinac Center – Opposition
David Michelson, Michigan Education Association – Support
Beth DeShone, GLEP Education Fund – Opposition
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:06 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/31/23
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location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

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MEMBERS:
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE
SENATOR ERIKA GEISS
CHAIR
5500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7800
FAX: (517) 373-9310
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 24, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was scheduled for Tuesday, October
24, 2023, at 3:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4515 (Rep. Hill) with recommendation.
2. Testimony regarding SB 501 (S-1) (Sen. Camilleri).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann,
Bellino, McBroom, Victory, and Bumstead, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Taylor Ridderbusch, of the Michigan Department of Natural Resources, to answer additional
questions regarding HB 4515.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4515:
Taylor Ridderbusch, Michigan Department of Natural Resources – Support
Thomas Dunn, Cycle Conservation Club of Michigan – Support
Thomas Dunn, American Motorcyclist Association's District 14 – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report HB 4515 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: Sen.(s) Bellino and McBroom
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Camilleri offered an (S-1) version of SB 501.
The Chair invited Sen. Camilleri to summarize the (S-1) version of SB 501.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 501. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Camilleri to summarize SB 501.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 501:
Jane McCurry, Clean Fuels Michigan – Support
Michael Rushing, CMAC Transportation – Support
Troy Hagon and Elisha Wulff, Michigan Department of Transportation – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 501:
Jill Sokacz, Michigan Trucking Association – Support
Jason Puscas, Bollinger Motors – Support
Dennis Kolar, Road Commission for Oakland County – Oppose
Cory Bullis, FLO EV Charging – Support
Justin Carpenter, Michigan EIBC – Support
Amy Drumm, Michigan Retailers Association – Support
Andrew Martin, Meijer – Support
Ross Gavin, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
Chris Semrinec, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Aaron Viles, Electrification Coalition – Support
Rachael Carl, Walmart – Support
Kevin Moore, Michigan Teamsters Joint Council 43 – Support
Steve Nadel, ACEEE – Support
Patricia Hanz, Truck and Engine Manufacturers Association – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:05 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: November 7, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
REP. REGGIE MILLER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 25, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Agriculture was called to order by Chair Miller.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans,
Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
At 9:15 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:40 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4673 before the committee:
HB 4673
(Rep. Miller)
A bill to require certain original equipment
manufacturers and authorized repair providers of
agricultural equipment to make diagnostic,
maintenance, and repair parts, tools, and
documentation available to independent repair
providers and owners of that equipment; and to
provide remedies.
Representative Miller testified in support of HB 4673 and (H-2)
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4673, but did not wish to speak:
Dennis Kellogg, representing the Michigan Farmers Union.
Kathleen Angerer, representing the Michigan Department of Agriculture.
Bob Thompson, representing the Michigan Farmers Union.
Denzel McCampbell, representing Progress Michigan.
Logan Volce, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Joanne Galloway, representing the Center for Change Northern Michigan Advocacy.
Richard Douglas.
Michael Fields.
David Markham, representing the Center for Change Northern Michigan Advocacy.
Barbara Conley.
Rev. Duane Miller.
Kalvin Carter.
Carol Higgins.
Mary O'Neill.
Megan Tinsley, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Shirley Thompson, Member of the Michigan Farmers Union.
Cathy Albro, the Chair of the Michigan Democratic Party Rural Caucus.
Ed Rachwitz.
Dixon Dudderar.
Robert Kennedy.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4673, but did not wish to speak:
Tim Ostentoski Sr, representing Ostentoski Farm equipment.
Eric Wareham, the VP of Government Affairs for the North American Equipment Dealers
Association.
Blake Laethem, representing the Farm Depot.
Dan FIsher, representing the Burnips Equipment Company.
Joel Bjork, representing the Burnips Equipment Company.
Kaitlyn Byerly, representing the Burnips Equipment Company.
David Worthems, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Representative Coffia moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4673. The motion prevailed 8-
5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans.
Nays: Reps. Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Pass: None.
Representative Neyer offered the following amendment to HB 4673:
1.
Amend page 6, line 15, after "2025" by inserting "and until January 1 2028".
Representative Neyer moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4673. The motion did not
prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Nays: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans.
Pass: None.
Representative Paiz moved to report out HB 4673 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The committee debated the motion.
The motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans.
Nays: Reps. Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Miller adjourned the meeting the
time being 9:50 AM.
Representative Reggie Miller, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov