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MEMBERS:
SEN. JEREMY MOSS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, INSURANCE,
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
SENATOR MARY CAVANAGH
CHAIR
6500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7748
FAX: (517) 373-1387
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance, Insurance, and Consumer Protection was scheduled for
Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 12:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 127 (Sen. Singh) and SB 128 (Sen. Damoose).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:03 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis and
Daley, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 127 and SB 128:
Sen. Sam Singh and Sen. John Damoose – Support
Mike Goorhouse, Community Foundation of the Holland and Zeeland Area – Support
Nathan Murphy, Council of Michigan Foundations – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 127:
Randall Ross, Community Foundation of Southeast Michigan – Support
Monica Moser, Jackson Community Foundation – Support
Laurie Strauss Baumer, Capitol Region Community Foundation – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 128:
Michelle Lantz, Greater Lansing Food Bank – Support
Dr. Phil Knight, Food Bank Council of Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 127 and
SB 128:
Kelly Kuhn, Michigan Nonprofit Association – Support
Denise McGinn, Association Guidance – Support
Julie Miller, Bravo Programs of America – Support
Ellen Sawyer, Comprehensive Therapy Center – Support
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George Moroz, The Henry Ford Museum – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League of Public Policy – Support
Peter Morman, Michigan Department of Treasury – Neutral
Beth Berglin, Kalamazoo Community Foundation – Support
Dave Mengebier, Grand Traverse Regional Community Foundation – Support
Bonnie Gettys, Barry County Community Foundation – Support
Diane Mahoney, Bay Area Community Foundation – Support
Joan Gustafson, Michigan Nonprofit Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 128:
Rebecca Mastee, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:49 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 03/15/23
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21ST DISTRICT
SANTHONY@SENATE.MICHIGAN.GOV
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR SARAH ANTHONY
CHAIR
324 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-6960
FAX: (517) 373-0897
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Appropriations was scheduled for Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 2:00
p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room.
Presentation by Quentin Messer Jr., Chief Executive & Economic Competitiveness Officer of the Michigan
Economic Development Corporation regarding the Michigan Strategic Outreach Attraction Reserve (SOAR)
Fund
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana,
Shink, Irwin, Hertel, Camilleri, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Cavanagh, Bumstead, Albert, Damoose, Huizenga,
Outman and Theis, a quorum was present.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. McDonald Rivet, to adopt the committee meeting minutes from
the March 8, 2023 . Without objection, the meeting minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Quentin Messer, Jr. Chief Executive & Economic Competitiveness Officer of the Michigan
Economic Development Corporation to give a presentation regarding the Michigan Strategic Outreach
Attraction Reserve (SOAR) Fund.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McCann,
supported by Sen. Cavanagh, to adjourn the committee at 2:55 p.m.Without objection, the committee was
adjourned.
Adopted: 3-22-23
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location: Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on General Government submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 3:00 p.m., Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators Cherry (C), Bayer, Klinefelt, Albert and Hauck

Excused: Senator Singh


location: Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on LEO/MEDC submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 3:00 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators Cavanagh (C), McDonald Rivet, McCann, McMorrow, Camilleri, Bumstead, and Huizenga

Scheduled Meetings

Appropriations –

Subcommittees –

LARA/DIFS – Tuesday, March 14, 1:30 p.m., or immediately following session, Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

Military, Veterans, State Police – Tuesday, March 14, 9:00 a.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

Health Policy – Wednesday, March 15, 12:30 p.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5323

Oversight – Wednesday, March 15, 8:30 a.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5314

Transportation and Infrastructure – Tuesday, March 14, 3:30 p.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-5323

Senator Singh moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 11:37 a.m.

The President pro tempore, Senator Moss, declared the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 10:00 a.m.

DANIEL OBERLIN

Secretary of the Senate


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**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Agriculture and Natural Resources was scheduled for
Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:16 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Shink and Bumstead. A quorum was present. Member
Senator Theis then joined the meeting. Senator Singh was excused. The subcommittee then moved to approve
the minutes of their meeting of 2/15/23.
The subcommittee welcomed Rich Bowman, Director of Policy, Michigan Nature Conservancy, who testified
on the mission of his organization and its work in Michigan. In particular, he spoke of its efforts to encourage
the practice of regenerative agriculture in the state. He was joined by colleague Ben Wickerham.
The subcommittee then welcomed Kathy Angerer, Acting Director, Michigan Department of Agriculture and
Rural Development (MDARD), who testified on the importance of regenerative agriculture practices, its core
principles, its role in agriculture sustainability, impact on carbon emissions, protecting water from agrichemical
runoff, and mitigating and adapting to climate change.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:59 p.m.
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COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on General Government was scheduled for Wednesday,
March 8, 2023, at 3:00 p.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:44 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Bayer, Klinefelt, Albert and Hauck, a quorum was
present.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Hauck, to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. Singh was excused from the meeting.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Bayer, to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding
Dana Nessel, Attorney General – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding
Jeff Getting and David Leyton, Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan – Support
Jeff Getting and David Leyton, Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Bayer, to
adjourn the committee at 5:02 p.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
Date Adopted by Committee: March 15, 2023
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Wednesday, March 08, 2023

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COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Universities and Community Colleges was scheduled
for Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:00 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) Irwin, McDonald Rivet, Albert and Damoose, a
quorum was present.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Irwin, to
adjourn the committee at 9:15 a.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
Date Adopted by Committee: April 25, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HOUSE FISCAL AGENCY GOVERNING COMMITTEE
REP. ANGELA WITWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8,
2023
8:30
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Committee on House Fiscal Agency Governing Committee was called to order by
Chair Witwer.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Witwer, Tate, Aiyash, Lightner, Posthumus.
Absent: Rep. Hall.
Excused: Rep. Hall.
Representative Aiyash joined the committee remotely.
Mary Ann Cleary, Director of the House Fiscal Agency, gave a presentation on the Quarterly
Report, dated March 8, 2023.
Representative Lightner moved to approve the Quarterly Report, dated March 8th, 2023. The
motion prevailed 4-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, Tate, Lightner, Posthumus.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lightner moved to excuse Representative Hall from the meeting. There being no
objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Witwer adjourned the meeting at
8:36 AM.
Representative Angela Witwer, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


location: Room 519, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, March 9, 2023
11:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia,
Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representatives Brenda Carter, Neeley and Thompson joined the committee remotely.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4167 before the committee:
HB 4167
(Rep. Morgan)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding sections 5135 and 5135a.
Representative Morgan testified in support of HB 4167. Questions and discussion followed.
Anissa Reed, representing the National Organization for Rare Disorders, testified in support
of HB 4167. Questions and discussion followed.
Dr. Stephen Rapundalo, President and CEO of MichBio, testified in support of HB 4167.
Questions and discussion followed.
Laura Bonnell, representing The Bonnell Foundation: Living with Cystic Fibrosis, testified in
support of HB 4167. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4167, but did not wish to speak:
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy, representing herself as mother to a daughter with
sickle cell anemia.
Nate Filler, representing the Boehringer Ingelheim USA Corporation.
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Beryl Manske, representing the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation.
Lily Melander, representing BIO - Biotechnology Innovation Organization.
Ryan Burtka, representing Novartis.
Ted Piper, representing PTC Therapeutics Inc.
Kelly Waters, representing herself.
Therese Waters, PT, representing herself.
Sarah Procario, representing the Hemophilia Foundation of Michigan.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:56 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, TOURISM AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION
REP. LAURIE POHUTSKY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, March 9, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Natural Resources, Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation
was called to order by Chair Pohutsky.
The Clerk read the letter from House Speaker Joe Tate removing Representative Mark Tisdel
and appointing Representative Dave Prestin to the House Committee on Natural Resources,
Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Schriver joined the committee remotely.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4083 before the committee:
HB 4083
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act,"
(MCL 324.101 to 324.90106) by adding subpart 3
to part 147.
Representative Julie Rogers introduced HB 4083. Questions and discussion followed.
Rachael Grover, Director of Planning and Development- Kalamazoo Country, testified in
support of HB 4083. Questions and discussion followed.
Denise Trabbic-Pointer, retired certified hazardous materials manager from Dupont and
Axalta, and Stephen Colby Brown, PhD chemist, testified in support of HB 4083. Questions
and discussion followed.
Melissa Sargent, Environmental Health Advocate from the Ecology Center, testified in
support of HB 4083. Questions and discussion followed.
Michelle Batora, representing the Michigan Cleaners Association, testified in opposition to
HB 4083.
Steve Fry, representing the Presidential Cleaners, testified in opposition to HB 4083.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4083, but did not wish to speak:
Travis Boeskool, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes
and Energy.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Megan Tinsley, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4083, but did not wish to speak:
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The Chair laid a presentation from the Michigan Environmental Council before the
committee.
Charlotte Jameson, Chief Policy Officer, and Megan Tinsley, Water Policy Director, from the
Michigan Environmental Council, gave an overview presentation. Questions and discussion
followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Pohutsky adjourned the meeting
at 11:59 AM.
Representative Laurie Pohutsky, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
March 2, 2023, at 11:00 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Reported SB 76 (S-2) (Sen. Hertel) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2.
Reported SB 77 (Sen. Moss) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3.
Reported SB 78 (Sen. Cavanagh) with recommendation and immediate effect.
4.
Reported SB 79 (S-2) (Sen. Bayer) with recommendation and immediate effect.
5.
Reported SB 80 (S-1) (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation and immediate effect.
6. Reported SB 81 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation and immediate effect.
7. Reported SB 82 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation and immediate effect.
8. Reported SB 83 (S-1) (Sen. McMorrow) with recommendation and immediate effect.
9. Reported SB 84 (Sen. Polehanki) with recommendation and immediate effect.
10. Reported SB 85 (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation and immediate effect.
11. Reported SB 86 (Sen. Singh) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 11:06 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB's 76-86.
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The Chair offered amendment #1 to SB 76.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt amendment #1 to SB 76. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
The Chair offered an (S-1) version of SB 76.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 76, as amended. The vote was
as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Irwin offered an (S-2) version of SB 79.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 79. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
Sen. Santana offered an (S-1) version of SB 80.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 80. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Shink offered an (S-1) version of SB 81.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 81. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Wojno offered an (S-1) version of SB 82.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 82. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Irwin offered an (S-1) version of SB 83.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 83. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 76-86:
Kim Worthy, Wayne county Prosecutor – Support SB 79
Dr. April Zeoli, U of M Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention – No Position
Dr. Patrick Carter, U of M Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention – No Position
Olivia Troye, 97 Precent – Support
Dr. Mike Siegel, Self – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 76-86 continued:
Dr. Michael Rice, State Superintendent – Support
Dr. Pamela Pugh, State School Board President - Support
Amy Trotter, MUCC – Support SB's 81-82, Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Bob Matthews, Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation – Oppose SB 76
Christopher Lee, National Shooting Sports Foundation Inc. Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Tom Lambert, Michigan Open Carry – Oppose
Kristina Lyke, Attorney – Oppose
Sheriff Christopher Swanson, Genesee County – Support
Jonathon Gold, Gifford's Gun Owners for Safety – Support
Bishop Bonnie Perry, End Gun Violence MI, MI Episcopal Church – Support
Rev. Richard White, Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity – Support
Paul Stankewitz, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
Lawrence Katz, Self – Support
Marcy Jankovich, DC Project – Oppose
Joyce Berning, The DC Project - Oppose
Cheryl Videto, Self – Oppose
The Honorable Tracey Yokich, Macomb Co. Circuit Court, Self – Support
Brian Stork, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Dr. Brittany Tayler, MI Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics – Support
Matt Oppenheim, Waverly Teachers – Support
Cara Erskine, Self – Support
Katie Cavanaugh, Okemos Public Schools Board of Education – Support
Dr. MD Alam, Bangladeshi American Community - Support
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 76 (S-1), as amended, as a clean substitute, to the floor
with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 76 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno report SB 77 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 77. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin report SB 78 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 78. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana report SB 79 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 79 (S-2). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 80 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 80 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 81 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 81 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno report SB 82 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 82 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 83 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 83 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin report SB 84 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 84. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana report SB 85 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 85. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 86 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 86. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record:
James Gallant, Marquette County Suicide Prevention Coalition – Neutral
Dr. Alisha Ching, Self – Support
Rob Anderson, Farm Bureau – Support SB's 81-82
Tammy Warren, Self – No Position
Valerie Lehmann, Self – Support
Jeanne Hunton, Moms Demand Action – Support
Many Mynhier, Red Wine & Blue – Support
Pamela Leidlein, Moms Demand Action – Support
Rob Mass, MI Dept. of Treasury – Support SB's 81-82
Laurie Lisi, OPHW Dem Club – Support
Holly Nickerson, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Julie Moore, Self – Support
Lyra Moore, Self – Support
Rachel Lewis, Self – Support
James Mitchiner, MD Michigan State Medical Society – support
Tom Oswald, Lansing Area Peace Education Center – Support
Timothy Spannaues, Episcopal Diocese of Michigan – Support
M. Susan Harlow, End Gun Violence Michigan - Support
V. Schroeder, End Gun Violence Michigan – Support
Linda Danders, Moms Demand Acton – Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
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Anne Kuhnen, Michigan League for Public Policy – Kids Count – Support
Dwayne Gill, Alliance for Gun Responsibility – Support
Matt Saxton, MI Sheriffs' Association – Oppose SB 79
Celeste Kanpunwala, Mom's Demand Action – Support
Sonya Lewis, Physicians for the Prevention of Gun Violence – Support
Rob Anderson, Farm Bureau – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Jacob Maerli, National Association for Gun Rights – Oppose
Brenden Boudreau, Great Lakes Gun Rights – Oppose
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs' Association – Oppose SB's 79, 83
Scott Jones, NRA-ILA – Oppose
Dale Hentershot, MI Trappers & Predator Callers Association – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Breanna Borg, Mental Health Co-Response Partnership, City of Detroit – Support
Mark Palmer, Self - Support
Chad King, Self – no position
Dr. Allison Ruff, Self - Support
Dr. Kristin Chrouser, Self - Support
Dr. Roger Albin, Self - Support
Dr. Jessica Fealy, Self - Support
Ted Sadler, Self – no position
Dr. Vashali Bhargava, Self - Support
Dr. Philip Zazove, Self - Support
Dr. Alexandra Targan, Self - Support
Charlene Hsia, Oakland University William Beaumont School of Medicine Student - Support
Dr. Roufaida Al-Misky, Self - Support
Ann Clare Keane, Self - Support
Dr. Jerry S. Walden, Self - Support
Grosse Pointe for Sensible Gun Reform - Support
Dr. Jeffrey B. Halter, Self - Support
Dr. Libby Anderson, Self – Support HB 4138-4148 (SB 76-86)
Dr. Maya Heinert, Self - Ssupport
Dr. Michael D. Fetters, Self - Support
Dr. Larisa Traill, Self - Support
Heather Nicholoff, Mi Council of Nurse Practitioners - Support
Dr. Frank Wang, Self - Support
Vic Ledbetter, Director Truth Racial Health & Transformation, Kalamazoo Foundation - Support
Chelsie Downs-Hubbarth, Creative Consulting Hub - Support
Dr. Aisha Jamal, Self - Support
Dr. Anna McEvoy, Self - Support
Dr. Brian Engel, Self - Support
Dr. Rosalie Tocco-Bradley, Self - Support
Dr. Todd Morgan, Self - Support
Dr. Benjamin Mervak, Self - Support
Dr. Denise Zao, Self - Support
Dr. Roger D. Smith, Self - Support
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Dr. Catherine Bettcher, Self - Support
Thomas Carroll, Self – Support SB 73, 79, 84
Jessica Martin, Self – Support SB 73, 79, 84
Dr. Cynthia Pryce, Self - Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
Mary Pollock, American Association of University Women of Michigan - Support
Dr. Marissa D'Souza, Self - Support
Katie Cavanaugh, Okemos Public Schools Board of Education - support
Ramya Swami, Brady - Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:44 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 03/15/2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. ROGER HAUCK, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY AFFAIRS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Regulatory Affairs was scheduled for Thursday, March 9, 2023, at 8:30
a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation from the Michigan Liquor Control Commission.
2. Testimony regarding SB 141 (Sen. McMorrow).
3. Testimony regarding SB 87 (Sen. Moss).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck and
Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Polehanki to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Kerry Krone, David Marvin and Pat Gagliardi from the Michigan Liquor Control
Commission for a presentation. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited Senator McMorrow to summarize SB 141. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 141:
Justin McNamara, MRLA – Support
Robert Morton, Libby's Seafood, Royal Oak Restaurant Association – Support
Mason Doerr, MLBA – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 141:
Scott Graham, Michigan Brewers Guild – Support
John O'Connor, Michigan Craft Distillers Assoc. – Support
Brendan Ringlever, Michigan Spirits Assoc. – Support
Paige Fults, LARA – Support
The following testimony was submitted in opposition to SB 141: Mike Tobias, MAP – Opposed
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Chair Moss summarized SB 87. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 87:
Erin Schor, MDOS – Support
Kurt Barryman, Auto Dealers Assoc. – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:40 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: March 16, 2023
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location: Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on MDE submitted the following:

Meeting held on Thursday, March 9, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Bayer (C), Singh and Albert

Excused: Senator Klinefelt


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MEMBERS:
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR MALLORY MCMORROW
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2523
FAX: (517) 373-5669
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Community Development was scheduled for Thursday,
March 9, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation from the MI Economic Development Corporation.
2. Presentation from the MI Department of Labor and Economic Opportunity.
The Chair called the meeting to order. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the following
members were present: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet, Moss, Geiss,
Victory, Lindsey and Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited MEDC CEO and President of the Michigan Strategic Fund Quentin L. Messer Jr. for a
presentation. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited LEO Director Susan Corbin for a presentation. Member questions followed.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:11 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: April 20, 2023
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location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RICK OUTMAN
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENT
SENATOR SEAN MCCANN
CHAIR
7100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-5100
FAX: (517) 373-5115
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Energy and Environment was scheduled for Thursday, March 9, 2023, at
1:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation regarding the MI Healthy Climate Plan.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:33 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel,
Camilleri, Chang, Polehanki, Damoose, Outman, and Hauck, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Singh to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Chang was
excused from the meeting.
The Chair invited Cory Connelly, Climate and Energy Advisor for the Michigan Department of Environment,
Great Lakes, and Energy, and Travis Boeskool, Legislative Liaison for EGLE, to give a presentation regarding
the MI Healthy Climate Plan.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:28 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: March 16, 2023
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The Appropriations Subcommittee on Corrections and Judiciary submitted the following:

Meeting held on Thursday, March 9, 2023, at 2:00 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators Shink (C), Santana, Irwin and Outman


evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on Transportation submitted the following:

Meeting held on Thursday, March 9, 2023, at 3:00 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators Klinefelt (C), Hertel, McCann, Damoose and Bumstead

Excused: Senator Camilleri

Scheduled Meetings

Appropriations –

Subcommittees –

Agriculture and Natural Resources – Wednesday, March 15, 12:00 noon, Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

Corrections and Judiciary – Thursday, March 16, 1:30 p.m., Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

EGLE – Thursday, March 16, 3:00 p.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

General Government – Wednesday, March 15, 3:00 p.m., Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

Joint Capital Outlay – Wednesday, March 15, 4:00 p.m., Room 352, House Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

LEO/MEDC – Wednesday, March 15, 3:00 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

Transportation – Thursday, March 16, 3:00 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

Universities and Community Colleges – Wednesday, March 15, 9:00 a.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

Civil Rights, Judiciary and Public Safety – Wednesday, March 15, 1:30 p.m. and Thursday, March 16, 12:00 noon, Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5312

Economic and Community Development – Thursday, March 16, 12:00 noon, Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-1721

Elections and Ethics – Wednesday, March 15, 3:00 p.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-1721

Finance, Insurance and Consumer Protection – Wednesday, March 15, 12:30 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5314

Health Policy – Wednesday, March 15, 12:30 p.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5323

Oversight – Wednesday, March 15, 8:30 a.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5314

Regulatory Affairs – Thursday, March 16, 9:00 a.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-1721

Veterans and Emergency Services – Wednesday, March 15, 8:30 a.m., Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5312

Senator Singh moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 6:32 p.m.

The President, Lieutenant Governor Gilchrist, declared the Senate adjourned until Wednesday, March 15, 2023, at 10:00 a.m.

DANIEL OBERLIN

Secretary of the Senate


evidence_text:
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Corrections and Judiciary was scheduled for
Thursday, March 9, 2023, at 2:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:03 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Shink, Sen.(s) Santana, Irwin and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Outman to adopt the meeting minutes from February 16, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony:
Chief Judge Gleicher, Court of Appeals – Operations overview and budgetary request.
Lynn Helland, Judicial Tenure Commission – Overview and budgetary request.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:37 p.m.
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**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on MDE was scheduled for Thursday, March 9, 2023, at
9:00 a.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Bayer, Sen.(s) Singh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Singh, to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. Klinefelt was excused from the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding the FY 2023-24 Governor's budget
recommendation for the Department of Education.
Dr. Sheryl Kennedy and Spencer Simmons, Department of Education – Support
At 9:04 a.m., Sen. Veronica Klinefelt entered the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Klinefelt, to
adjourn the committee at 9:27 a.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
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evidence_text:
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Transportation was scheduled for Thursday, March 9,
2023, at 3:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:03 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, McCann, and Bumstead, a quorum was
present.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Hertel, to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding the Governor's budget,
Patrick McCarthy and Troy Hagan, MDOT – No Position
At 3:09 p.m., Sen. John Damoose entered the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding bonding,
Patrick McCarthy and Troy Hagan, MDOT – No Position
At 3:44 p.m., Sen. Jon Bumstead left the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection,
Sen. Camilleri was excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adjourn
the committee at 3:51 p.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou, Filler,
Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Absent: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Mueller.
Excused: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Mueller.
Representatives Andrews, Arbit and Dievendorf joined the committee remotely.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 7, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4202 before the committee:
HB 4202
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 520l
(MCL 750.520l), as amended by 1988 PA 138.
Representative Pohutsky testified in support of HB 4202. Questions and discussion followed.
Heath Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence,
testified in support of HB 4202.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4202, but did not wish
to speak:
Noah Smith, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4202, but did not wish to speak:
Brandon Lanyon, representing the Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan.
Merissa Kovach, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Sara Morley LaCroix, representing themselves.
Aaron Van Langevelde, representing the Michigan Department of Attorney General.
Susie Sherman-Hall, representing the State Public Affairs Committee, Michigan Junior
League.
Megan Reynolds, representing the Michigan Poverty Law Program.
Jess Averill, Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and Treatment Board.
Chair Hope laid before the committee a presentation by the Vera Institute of Justice. Aiden
Cotter, Senior Program Associate; and Madeline Bailey, Senior Program Associate, gave a
presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed
Representative Breen moved to excuse Representatives Tyrone Carter and Mueller from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
9:53 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS
REP. JASON M HOSKINS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Economic Development and Small Business was called to order by
Chair Hoskins.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Coffia joined the committee remotely.
The Chair laid HB 4219 before the committee:
HB 4219
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled "Michigan
strategic fund act," by amending section 5 (MCL
125.2005), as amended by 2014 PA 507.
Representative Hall testified in support of HB 4219. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4219, but did not wish to speak:
Greg Bird, representing the Michigan Economic Development Corporation.
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
At 9:19 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:23 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Farhat moved to report out HB 4219 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Grant moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hoskins adjourned the meeting
at 9:25 AM.
Representative Jason Hoskins, Chair
Elaine Kupiec
Committee Clerk
ekupiec@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
REP. MATT KOLESZAR
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Education was called to order by Chair Koleszar.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela, Greene, Paquette, Wendzel, Johnsen.
Absent: Rep. Markkanen.
Excused: Rep. Markkanen.
Representatives Paquette and Wendzel joined the committee remotely.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 7, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4166 before the committee:
HB 4166
(Rep. Koleszar)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending sections 502,
503, 507, 522, 528, 552, 561, and 705 (MCL
380.502, 380.503, 380.507, 380.522, 380.528,
380.552, 380.561, and 380.705), sections 502,
503, 507, 522, 528, 552, and 561 as amended by
2018 PA 601 and section 705 as amended by 2018
PA 23; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
Representative Stone moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4166. The motion prevailed 9-0-
2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Greene, Johnsen.
At 9:07 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:08 AM, Majority Vice Chair Churches called the committee back to order.
Representative Koleszar introduced HB 4166, as substitute (H-1). Questions and discussion
followed.
At 9:18 AM, Majority Vice Chair Churches laid the committee at ease.
At 9:19 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid a presentation by the Michigan Department of Education before the
committee.
Dr. Sue Carnell, Chief Deputy Superintendent, and Mr. Chris Janzer, Assistant Director for
the Office of Assessment and Accountability, of the Michigan Department of Education gave
a presentation on the A-F system in Michigan. Questions and discussion followed.
Dr. Ticheal Jones and Dan Quisenberry representing the Michigan Association of Public
School Academies testified with a neutral position on HB 4166 and (H-1). Questions and
discussion followed.
Brad Williams representing the Detroit Regional Chamber testified in opposition to HB 4166.
Questions and discussion followed.
Lindsay Case Palsrok representing the Business Leaders of Michigan testified in opposition
to HB 4166. Questions and discussion followed.
Nate Henschel representing the Grand Rapids Chamber testified in opposition to HB 4166.
Questions and discussion followed.
Matthew Schueller representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents &
Administrators testified in support of HB 4166.
Lou Steigerwald representing the Superintendent at Norway-Vulcan Area Schools testified in
support of HB 4166.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4166, but did not wish
to speak:
Jason Mancini, representing the Michigan Council of Charter School Authorizers.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4166, but did not wish to speak:
Sheryl Kennedy, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
Carol Weaver, representing the Detroit Public Schools Community District.
Joe DeVault, representing the Macomb ISD.
Chris Glass, representing the Education Advocates of West Michigan.
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Alliance for Student Opportunity.
Mike Latvis, representing the Wayne Regional Educational Service Agency.
David Randels, representing Oakland Schools.
Dr. David Michelson, representing the Michigan Education Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4166, but did not wish to speak:
Molly Macek, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Beth DeShone, representing the Great Lakes Education Project Education Fund.
Representative Johnsen moved to excuse Representative Markkanen from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Koleszar adjourned the meeting
at 10:18 AM.
Representative Matt Koleszar, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Clerk read in a letter from House Speaker Joe Tate adding Representative DeBoyer,
removing Representative Markkanen, and appointing Representative Smit as Minority Vice
Chair of the House Elections Committee.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Smit moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 7, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee the Presentation by Promote the Vote with Erica
Peresman. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 11:17 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 21,
2023


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON MILITARY, VETERANS AND HOMELAND SECURITY
REP. JENNIFER CONLIN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
12:00 p.m.
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Military, Veterans and Homeland Security was called to order by
Chair Conlin.
The Clerk read two letters dated March 7, 2023, and March 8, 2023, from House Speaker Joe
Tate, making changes in the membership of the House Committee on Military, Veterans and
Homeland Security.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Conlin, Coleman, Tyrone Carter, Stone, Rogers, Wegela, Bezotte, Martin,
St. Germaine.
Absent: Rep. Markkanen.
Excused: Rep. Markkanen.
Representative Tyrone Carter joined the committee remotely.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 7, 2023. There being
no objections, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4199 before the committee:
HB 4199
(Rep. Conlin)
A bill to amend 2014 PA 259, entitled "Michigan
national guard tuition assistance act," by amending
the title and sections 3 and 4 (MCL 32.433 and
32.434), section 3 as amended by 2016 PA 531.
At 12:01 p.m., the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:01 p.m., the Majority Vice-Chair Coleman called the committee back to order.
The Chair, the bill sponsor, explained the HB 4199. Questions followed.
At 12:08 p.m., the Majority Vice- Chair Coleman laid the committee at ease.
At 12:08 p.m., the Chair called the committee back to order.
Major General Paul D. Rogers, the Adjutant General of the Michigan National Guard,
representing the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs (DMVA), testified in
support of HB 4199. Questions followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4199, but did not wish to speak:
Tim Poxson, representing the American Legion-Department of Michigan;
Adam Majestic, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber; and
Heather Feuerstein, State Legislative Liaison for the DMVA.
Representative Coleman moved to report out HB 4199 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Conlin, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Wegela, Bezotte, Martin, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation given by Major General Rogers, the
Director of the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.
Major General Paul D. Rogers, the Adjutant General of the Michigan National Guard,
presented an overview of the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.
Questions and discussion followed.
Terry J. Sabo, Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs for Michigan Department of Military
Affairs, submitted written testimony.
Representative Stone moved to excuse Representative Markkanen from the meeting. There
being no objections, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Stone moved to
adjourn; Chair Jennifer Conlin adjourned the meeting at 1:01 p.m.
Representative Jennifer Conlin, Chair
Joy Brewer
Committee Clerk
joybrewer@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins,
Miller, Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representatives Coleman and Bruck joined the committee remotely.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 7, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid the presentation on Transportation Funding in Michigan before the
Committee.
William E. Hamilton representing the House Fiscal Agency testified in support of Questions
and discussion followed.
William E. Hamilton representing the House Fiscal Agency testified in support of Questions
and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting
at 11:15 AM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 21,
2023


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in the
1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4004 (Rep. Weiss) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4007 (Rep. Carter) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 34 (S-1) (Sen. Camilleri) with recommendation.
4. Reported SB 6 (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation.
5. Testimony regarding HB 4005 (Rep. Weiss) and SB 5 (Sen. Camilleri).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB 4005, HB 4007, SB
34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Sen. Darrin Camilleri – Support
Sen. Veronica Klinefelt – Support
Michael Pierce, University of Arkansas – No position
Ron Bieber, Michigan AFL-CIO – No position
Kathy Stevens, UFCW 951 – Support
Yousef Rabhi, Tracy Webb, and Joshua Bowman, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Lawrence Roehrig, AFSCME Council 25 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004 and HB 4005:
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Jennifer Sherer, Economic Policy Institute – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4005 and SB 34:
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
Kevin Tremain, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
Mike Klele, IBEW 692 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB 4005, SB 5, and SB
34:
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Opposition
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4007 and SB 6:
Neil Parish and John Banks, Michigan NECA – Support
Jason Gunenwald, Sheet Metal Workers Local 80 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4007:
Tom Lutz, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 34:
Jessica Smith, UFCW 876 – No position
Andrew Goodman, UA Local 370 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB 4005, HB 4007, and
SB 34:
Percy Johnson, UAW APRI – Opposition
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB
4005, HB 4007, SB 5, and SB 6:
Zachary Aaron Northrup, USW Local 2-585 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 5, SB 6, and
SB 34:
Katherine Bussard, Mid-Michigan Women for Conservative Values – Opposition
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 5 and SB 34:
Robert Rosekrans, USW Local 15157 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB
4005, HB 4007, SB 5, SB 6, and SB 34:
Reid Scott, Support RTW – Support
Angelo Moreno, ELPL Library Workers Union – Support
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Amanda Fisher, NFIB – Opposition
Annie Patnaude, American for Prosperity – Opposition
Chris White, Restaurant Opportunities Center of Michigan – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004 and HB
4005:
JJ Jewell, UAW Region 1 Local 228 – Support
John Kalb, National Right to Work Committee – Opposition
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB
4005, HB 4007, SB 5, and SB 6:
Zachary Aaron Northrup, USW Local 2-585 – Support
Jason Peek, UAW 602 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 34:
Joshua Richter, UFCW 951 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 5:
Rudolfo Reyes, 602 UAW – Support
At 9:58 a.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 10:07 a.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report HB 4004 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report HB 4007 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #5, to SB 34.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #5 to SB 34. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #4, to SB 34.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #4 to SB 34. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #6, to SB 34.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #6 to SB 34. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 34. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report the (S-1) version of SB 34 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #1, to SB 6.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #1 to SB 6. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report SB 6 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #2, to SB 5.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #2 to SB 5. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #3, to SB 5.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #3 to SB 5. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4007
and SB 6:
Michael LaFaive, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposition
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, and SB 34:
Ben Tirrell, Michigan Farm Bureau – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004:
Rachael Dickinson, UAW Local 6000 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4007, and SB 5:
David Bianco, IBEW Local 252 – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004
and HB 4005:
John Clore, Us Against Media – Opposition
John McNamara, Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association – Opposition
Kevin Koehler, Construction Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4007, SB 34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Nizigama Judita, UFCW 951 – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4005
and SB 34:
Chad Lynch, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 34, and SB 5:
Antwana Kus, Resident – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 6 and SB 5:
Dan Ferqueior, MRCC – Support
Cindy Ferguson, UFCW 951 – Support
Pablo Perez, USW Local 2-585 – Support
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Kathy Clay, USW Local 2-585 – Support
Dan Spencer, USW – Support
Nick Richmond, USW Local 2-585 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 34, and SB 6:
Rebecca Sallie, USW Local 496 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 34 and
SB 5:
John McNamara, Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association – Opposition
Jennifer DeLorge, United Steel Workers – Support
Chad Milkowki, USW 15157 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 34:
Randy Minnie, 1073 – Support
Mike Orvorlt, USW Local 12934 – Support
Kent Holsing, United Steelworkers Local 12075 – Support
Amy Meyers, USW Local 12934 – Support
Steven Strachn, UFCW 871 – Support
Alexis Betz, UFCW – Opposition
Antoine Bell, LiUNA – Support
Mark Pulice, Laborers Union – Support
Mike Lumley, Teamsters Local 406 – Support
Jesus Perez, Teamsters 406 – Support
Christopher Ritter, IATSE Local 38 – Support
Edwin Miller, IATSE Local 38 – Support
John Mendyk, USW – Support
Patricia Martin, UFCW 951 – Support
Sydney Krueger, UFCW 870 – Support
Kurt Herman, UAW – Support
Marites Herman, UAW – Support
Walter Betz, UFCW 951 – Support
Scot Carpenter, UFCW 951 – Support
Cheryl Back, UFCW Local 951 – Support
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, SB 34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Adrian Lianes, UFCW 951 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, SB 34, and SB 5:
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Opposition
Amy Drumm, Michigan Retailers Association – Opposition
Peter Ruark, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Jim Lilly, Spartan Nash – Opposition
Ben Tirrell, Michigan Farm Bureau – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 34, SB 6
and SB 5:
Ken Bickle, Utility Workers Union of America – Support
Nick Gordies, UWUA Local 150 – Support
Steve Claywell, Michigan Building Trades – Support
Jirmere Moses, Laborers Local 1191 – Support
Elizabeth Byrd, SEIU Michigan – Support
Kevin Koehler, Construction Association of Michigan – Support
Robert Joeng, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
Mike Hayter, LiUNIA – Support
Dan Minton, LiUNA – Support
David Willest, LiUNA of Michigan – Support
Jesse DuVerney, LiUNA Local 355 – Support
Jon Byrd, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, and HB 4007:
Linda Gordon, UFCW – Support
Anthony Robbins, IAMAW – No Position
Diane Payne, IAMAW Local 698 – Support
Andy Johnston, Grand Rapids Chamber – Opposition
Sandy Baruah, Detroit Regional Chamber – Opposition
Scott Huff, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters – Support
Patrice Olson, IAMAW 2184 – Support
Alexandria Olson, IAMAW 2184 – Support
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Frank Krause, IAMAW 698 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Ralph Prince, CWA – Support
Mike Schucte, CWA – Support
Charles Daniels, CWA – Support
DeAndra Davis, CWA – Support
Kevin Riley, UFCW 951 – Support
Robert Lopez, UFCW 951 – Opposition
Miles Podert, 14009 – Support
Elizabeth Minor, Michigan AFL-CIO – Support
Jordan Pierce, UFCW 951 – Support
Lora Baker, UFCW 951 – Opposition
Damien Nem, Carpenters – No Position
Tim Minotas, Sierra Club – Support
John Fournier, City of Ann Arbor – Support
Stephanie Kreuz, Heritage Action – Opposition
Sarah Anderson, Michigan Freedom Fund – Opposition
Beth DeShone, Great Lakes Education Project – Opposition
Jimmy Greene, Associated Builders and Contractors of Michigan – Opposition
Jeremy Garza, Michigan Pipe Trades – Support
Steven Rieppa, AFSCME Council 25 – Support
Ryan Charney, Michigan State Conference IBEW – Support
Sandy Baruah, Detroit Regional Chamber – Opposition
Carlo Castigliual, Plumbers Local 98 – Support
Mathew Lee, UFCW 951 – Support
Robert Smith, UAW – Support
Ryan Anderson, USW 14009 – Support
Kris Pawlowski, USW Union – Support
Tim Hahn, USW – Support
Debra Romain, Michigan Regional Chamber of Carpenters and Millwrights – Support
Earnest Sallie, USW Local 496 – Support
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Vince Dawe, MRCC – Support
Andre Poirier, Local 80 Sheet Metal Workers – Support
Michael Pilon, Local 80 Sheet Metal Workers – Support
Dawn Crandall, Home Builders Association of Michigan – Opposition
Sean McBrearty, Clean Water Action – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 11:01 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 04/13/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR JEFF IRWIN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2406
FAX: (517) 373-5679
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Housing and Human Services was scheduled for Tuesday, March 14,
2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 138 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Reported SB 137 (Sen. Damoose) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3. Testimony regarding SB 129 (Sen. Singh).
4. Testimony regarding SB 130 (Sen. McDonald Rivet).
5. Testimony regarding SB 131 (Sen. Cavanagh).
6. Testimony regarding SB 132 (Sen. Shink).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:21 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Chang, Geiss, Lindsey,
Hoitenga, and Damoose, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to adopt the meeting minutes from March 7, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 137 and
SB 138:
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
The Chair offered, and summarized, an Irwin Amendment #1 to SB 138.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an Irwin Amendment #2, to SB 138.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the Irwin amendment #1 to SB 138. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Chang, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
At 12:24 p.m., Sen. Shink entered the meeting.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to adopt the Irwin amendment #2 to SB 138. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga, and
Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 138, as amended, as a clean substitute (S-1), to the
floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga, and
Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 138 (S-1). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Damoose to report SB 137 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga, and
Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 137. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair invited Sen. Singh and Amy Hovey, Director of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority,
to summarize SB 129 – SB 132.
At 12:44 p.m., Sen. Cherry entered the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 129, SB 130, SB 131, and SB
132:
Dawn Crandell, Home Builders Association of Michigan – Support
Joshua Lunger, Grand Rapids Chamber – Support
Jen Rigzterink, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Kent Wood, Housing North – Support
Ryan Kilpatrick, Housing Next – Support
Patrick McGinnis, City of Portage – Support
Brent Forsberg, TA Forsberg – Support
Stephen Wooden and David de Velder, Dwelling Place – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 129, SB
130, SB 131, and SB 132:
Northern Michigan Chamber Alliance – Support
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Traverse Connect – Support
Evie Zois Sweeney, Michigan Housing Council – Support
Mark Cochran, City of Monroe – Support
Bob Trezise, Lansing Economic Area Partnership – Support
Shannon Morgan, Renovare Development – Support
Darian Neubecker, Robertson Brothers Homes – Support
Brad Ward, Michigan Realtors – Support
Jessica AcMoody, Community Economic Development Association of Michigan – Support
Justin Horvath, Shiawassee Economic Development Partnership – Support
Ted Fines, Habitat for Humanity Northeast Michigan – Support
Mike Mraz, Rockford Construction – Support
Jonathan Stimson, Homestretch Nonprofit Housing Corporation – Support
Jeff Royce, Victory Development Group – Support
Leah Robinson, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Support
Jerry Wuorenmaa, Western UP Planning and Development Region – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:26 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: March 21, 2023
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The Appropriations Subcommittee on Military, Veterans, State Police submitted the following:

Meeting held on Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Hertel (C) and Klinefelt

Excused: Senator Theis


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MEMBERS:
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
SENATOR DAYNA POLEHANKI
CHAIR
310 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7350
FAX: (517) 373-9228
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education was scheduled for Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 1:30 p.m., in
the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 161 (Sen. Geiss) and SB 162 (Sen. McCann).
2. Adopted (S-1) substitute to SB 162 (Sen. McCann).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose
and Johnson, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to adopt the meeting minutes from February 21, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 162. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose, and Johnson.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 161 and SB 162:
Dr. Daveda Colbert, Wayne RESA – Support
Sheryl Kennedy and Kelli Brozanski, Michigan Department of Education – Support
Lou Steigerwald, Norway-Vulcan Schools – Support
Matt Scheuller, Michigan Association of Superintendents and Administrators – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 161 and
SB 162:
Carol Weaver, Detroit Public Schools Community District – Support
Joe Devault, Macomb ISD – Support
Molly Macek, Mackinac Center – Support
Paul Liabenow, Michigan Elementary and Middle School Principals Association – Support
Dirk Weeldreyer, School Equity Caucus – Support
David Randels, Oakland Schools – Support
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Mike Latvis, Wayne RESA – Support
Bob Kefgen, Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals – Support
Chris Glass, Education Advocates of West Michigan – Support
Jerry Johnson, Barry, Branch, Calhoun, Jackson, Lenawee, and Monroe ISDs – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:15 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 03/21/23
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The Appropriations Subcommittee on LARA/DIFS submitted the following:

Meeting held on Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 1:30 p.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Cavanagh (C), Santana and Theis


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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Local Government was scheduled for Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 1:30
p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Presentation by the Michigan Association of Registers of Deeds.
2.
Presentation by the Michigan Association of County Clerks.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:33 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Moss, Bayer, Shink, Hoitenga and Daley, a
quorum was present.
The Chairman entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023.
Without objection the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to give the committee a presentation:
Brandon Denby, Livingston County Register of Deeds / Michigan Association of Register of Deeds
Stewart Sanders, Newaygo County Register of Deeds / Michigan Association of Register of Deeds
Barb Byrum, Ingham County Clerk / Michigan Association of County Clerks
Vanessa Guerra, Saginaw County Clerk / Michigan Association of County Clerks
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:09 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 06/06/2023
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location: the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room

evidence_text:
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on LARA/DIFS was scheduled for Tuesday, March 14,
2023, at 1:30 p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:31 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Santana and Theis, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis, supported by Sen. Santana, to adopt the meeting minutes from
February 28, 2023. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding
Anita Fox, DIFS – No Position
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding
Kristen Staley, MIDC – No Position
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Santana, to
adjourn the committee at 2:29 p.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. ANGELA WITWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 15,
2023
9:00
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Witwer.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Weiss, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson, Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh,
Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn, Schuette, Steele.
Absent: Rep. Hood.
Excused: Rep. Hood.
Representative O'Neal moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 8, 2023. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Lightner moved to excuse Representative Hood from the meeting. There being no
objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid the presentation on the Creation of a New Battery Manufacturing Campus in
Mecosta County before the Committee.
Randy Thelen, President & CEO of the The Right Place, joined by Chuck Thelen, Vice President
of North American Operations of Gotion, Inc., both provided a presentation on the Creation of a
New Battery Manufacturing Campus in Mecosta County. Questions and discussion followed.
Dr. Bill Pink, President of Ferris State University, testified in support of the Creation of a New
Battery Manufacturing Campus in Mecosta County. Questions and discussion followed.
Jim Chapman, Supervisor of Green Charter Township, testified in support of the Creation of a
New Battery Manufacturing Campus in Mecosta County. Questions and discussion followed
The Chair laid Legislative Transfer Request 2023-1 and 2023-2 before the Committee.
Representative Lightner moved to amend Legislative Transfer Request 2023-1 and 2023-2 by
striking pages 1 and 3. The motion did not prevail 12-16-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Nays: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Weiss, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Pass: None.
Representative O'Neal moved to approve Legislative Transfer Request 2023-1 and 2023-2. The
motion prevailed 16-12-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Weiss, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Witwer adjourned the meeting at
10:16 AM.
Representative Angela Witwer, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 15, 2023
8:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: Rep. Churches.
Excused: Rep. Churches.
Representative Coleman moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 8, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Trevor Lauer, President representing the DTE testified in support of Questions and discussion
followed.
Tonya Berry and Chris Laird representing the ConsumersEnergy testified in support of
Mike Byrne and Kathleen Peretick representing the Michigan Public Service Commission
testified in support of
Glenda McDonald, James D'Amour, Elouise Garley and Em Perry testified in support of
Cathleen Russ testified in support of
Rick Schroek testified in support of
Edith Lee-Payne testified in support of
The following people submitted a card in support of , but due to the time constraints were
unable to speak:
Chuck Altman.
James Shaw, representing the IBEW Local 17.
Representative Andrews moved to excuse Representative Churches from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
10:30 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 22,
2023


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 15, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Hope moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 8, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Hoskins moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 8, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4021 before the committee:
HB 4021
(Rep. VanderWall)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 81101, 81132, 81145, 81146,
and 81150 (MCL 324.81101, 324.81132,
324.81145, 324.81146, and 324.81150), section
81101 as amended by 2020 PA 385 and sections
81132, 81145, 81146, and 81150 as added by 1995
PA 58.
Representative VanderWall testified in support of HB 4021. Questions and discussion
followed.
Matt Saxton, Executive Director representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association testified in
support of HB 4021.
Sgt. Robert Meyers representing the Lake County testified in support of HB 4021.
Richard L. Martin, Lake County Sheriff testified in support of HB 4021.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4021, but did not wish to speak:
Taylor Ridderbusch, representing the Department of Natural Resources.
The Chair laid SB 2 before the committee:
SB 2
(Sen. Geiss)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by repealing section 40
(MCL 750.40).
Senator Geiss testified in support of SB 2. Questions and discussion followed.
Merissa Kovach representing the ACLU of Michigan testified in support of SB 2.
Dr. Sarah Wallett representing the Planned Parenthood of Michigan testified in support of SB
2.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 2, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Genevieve Marnon, representing the Right to Life of Michigan.
Rebecca Mastee, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 2, but did not wish to speak:
Stephanie Kreuz, representing the Heritage Action for America.
Representative Hope moved to report out SB 2 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4045 before the committee:
HB 4045
(Rep. Schmaltz)
A bill to create the volunteer employee criminal
history system program; to impose a fee for
conducting a national and state criminal history
record information; and to provide for the powers
and duties of certain state and local governmental
officers and entities.
Sgt. Travis Fletcher representing the Michigan State Police testified in support of HB 4045.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4045, but did not wish to speak:
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police.
Representative Hope moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4045. The motion prevailed 13-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 4045 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Hoskins, Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel,
Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Edwards, Dievendorf.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
11:41 AM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 22,
2023


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JOHN FITZGERALD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 15, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to order by
Chair Fitzgerald.
The Clerk read a letter from Speaker Tate removing Representative Harris from the
committee and adding Representative BeGole to the committee.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Paquette,
Bezotte, BeGole, Prestin.
Absent: Reps. Breen, Zorn.
Excused: Reps. Breen, Zorn.
Representative Rogers moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by Jessica Thomas, Bureau Director;
David Buick, Administrator; and Larry Steckelberg, Administrator; Bureau of Local
Government and School Services, Michigan Department of Treasury. Questions and
discussion followed.
Representative Rogers moved to excuse Representatives Breen and Zorn from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Fitzgerald adjourned the
meeting at 12:57 PM.
Representative John Fitzgerald, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 15, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price,
VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: Rep. Markkanen.
Excused: Rep. Markkanen.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 8, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4039, HB 4054, HB 4055, HB 4137 and HB 4253 before the committee:
HB 4039
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled "General
sales tax act," by amending sections 1 and 25
(MCL 205.51 and 205.75), section 1 as amended
by 2018 PA 2 and section 25 as amended by 2021
PA 108.
HB 4054
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled "General
sales tax act," by amending section 4t (MCL
205.54t), as amended by 2015 PA 205.
HB 4055
(Rep. Thompson)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
by amending section 4o (MCL 205.94o), as
amended by 2015 PA 204.
HB 4137
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 1979 PA 72, entitled "An act to
require the governor to report certain tax
information with the annual budget message to the
legislature," by amending section 6 (MCL
21.276), as amended by 1983 PA 7.
HB 4253
(Rep. Coleman)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
by amending sections 2 and 21 (MCL 205.92 and
205.111), section 2 as amended by 2018 PA 1 and
section 21 as amended by 2021 PA 109.
Representative Outman and Representative Coleman testified in support of HB 4039, HB
4137 and HB 4253.
Leah Robinson, Jamie Larson, Nate Henschel, and Dave Echelbarger representing the
Michigan Chamber of Commerce, and the Grand Rapids Chamber of Commerce, testified in
support of HB 4039, HB 4137 and HB 4253. Questions and discussion followed.
Rob Mass, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury, testified with a neutral
position on HB 4039, HB 4137 and HB 4253. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4039 and HB 4253, but did not wish
to speak:
Karen E. Johnston, representing Toyota Motor North America.
Brian Calley, representing the Small Business Association of Michigan.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
Michigan Association of Certified Public Accountant's.
Amy Drumm, representing the Michigan Retailers Association.
The committee discussed HB's 4039, 4137, and 4253.
Representative Outman moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4039. The motion prevailed
10-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom,
Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Rep. Price.
Pass: None.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4137. The motion
prevailed 10-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom,
Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Rep. Price.
Pass: None.
Representative Farhat moved to report out HB 4039 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 8-3-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Reps. Brixie, Brenda Carter, Price.
Pass: None.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to report out HB 4137 with recommendation, as
substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 8-3-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Reps. Brixie, Brenda Carter, Price.
Pass: None.
Representative Outman moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4253. The motion prevailed
11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Outman moved to report out HB 4253 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 9-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom, Outman,
Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Reps. Brixie, Price.
Pass: None.
Representative VanWoerkom, Representative Thompson, and Lynn Ghandi, representing the
Michigan Aggregates Association, testified in support of HB 4054 and HB 4055. Questions
and discussion followed.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards, testified in
opposition to HB 4054 and HB 4055.
Rob Mass, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury, testified with a neutral
position on HB 4054 and HB 4055. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4054 and HB 4055, but did not wish
to speak:
Leah Robinson, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4054 and HB 4055, but did not
wish to speak:
Matt Schueller, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents and
Administrators.
At 12:54 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 1:07 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4054. The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to report out HB 4054 with recommendation, as
substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 9-1-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom, Outman,
Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Rep. Price.
Pass: Rep. Brixie.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4055. The motion
prevailed 10-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom,
Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Rep. Price.
Pass: None.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to report out HB 4055 with recommendation, as
substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 9-1-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, VanWoerkom, Outman,
Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: Rep. Price.
Pass: Rep. Brixie.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4039, HB 4054, HB 4055, HB 4137
and HB 4253, but did not wish to speak:
Doug Needham, representing the Michigan Aggregates Association.
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce.
Derek Bajema, representing the Michigan Soft Drink Association.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to excuse Representative Markkanen from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
1:10 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov