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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 12, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: Rep. Whitsett.
Excused: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 15, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4068 before the committee:
HB 4068
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
section 253.
Representative Hood testified in support of HB 4068. Questions and discussion followed.
Susan Smith and Dave Bilardello, representing Corewell Health West, testified in support of
HB 4068.
Gitesh Dubal, representing Versiti Michigan, testified in support of HB 4068. Questions and
discussion followed.
Diane Calmus, representing America's Blood Centers, testified in support of HB 4068.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4068, but did not wish to speak:
Andy Daniels, representing Hills and Dales Healthcare.
James Falahee, Jr., representing the Bronson Healthcare Group.
Steve Sorenson, representing Holland Hospital.
Bel Martin, representing Ascension.
Ronald Grifka, representing the University of Michigan Health-West.
Sam Champagne, representing Henry Ford Health.
Sean Sorenson-Abbott, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Autumn Gillard, representing Trinity Health.
Norm Hess, representing the Michigan Association for Local Public Health.
Representative Grant offered the following amendments to HB 4068:
1. Amend page 1, line 2, after "2023" by inserting "and subject to the applicable
limitations in this section".
2. Amend page 2, line 1, after "section." by inserting "An individual taxpayer shall
not claim a credit under this section for more than 6 verified blood donations in a single
tax year.".
Representative Grant moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4068. The motion prevailed 11-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Farhat moved to excuse Representative Whitsett from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:39 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


meeting_state: held

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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 12, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, April 12, 2023, at 12:30
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation from Families Against Narcotics.
2. Testimony regarding SB 219 (Sen. Santana).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:33 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the meeting minutes from March 22, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Judge Linda Davis, Executive Director of Families Against Narcotics, and Elena Kline,
Program Director at Corewell Health, to give a presentation regarding the organization.
The Chair invited Sen. Santana to summarize SB 219.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 219:
Christine Shearer, Michigan Association of Health Plans – Support
Amy Drumm, Michigan Retailers Association – Support
Amy Ellis, Spartan Nash – Support
Eric Roath, Michigan Pharmacists Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 219:
Sonny Hoogendorn, Meijer – Support
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Support
Lisa Bade, Citizen – Support
Jarrett Skorup, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Support
Bel Martin, Ascension – Support
Rachel Carl, Walmart – Support
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Jill McCormack, National Association of Chain Drug Stores – Support
Jamie Zaniewski, CVS Health – Support
Kimberly Walz, Walgreens – Support
Scott Kempa, Michigan State Medical Society – Oppose
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:29 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: April 19, 2023
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21ST DISTRICT
SANTHONY@SENATE.MICHIGAN.GOV
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR SARAH ANTHONY
CHAIR
324 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-6960
FAX: (517) 373-0897
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 12, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Appropriations was scheduled for Wednesday, April 12, 2023, at 2:00
p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room.
1) Review of Legislative Transfer Requests
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana,
Shink, Irwin, Hertel, Camilleri, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Cavanagh, Bumstead, Albert, Damoose, Huizenga,
Outman and Theis, a quorum was present.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Cherry, to adopt the committee meeting minutes from the March
22, 2023 . Without objection, the meeting minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Corey Savino and Michael Syracuse to summarize two projects from the Strategic Outreach
and Attraction Reserve (SOAR):
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McCann, supported by Sen. Cavanagh, adopt a portion of Legislative
Transfer Request #1 and Legislative Transfer Request #2. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Anthony, Sen.(s) McCann, McDonald Rivet, Cherry, Bayer, Santana, Shink, Irwin, Hertel,
Camilleri, Klinefelt, McMorrow, Cavanagh, Damoose, and Huizenga,.
Nays: Sen.(s) Bumstead, Albert, Outman, and Theis.
The motion prevailed and the portion of Legislative Transfer Request #1 and Legislative Transfer Request #2
were adopted.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink, supported
by Sen. Irwin, to adjourn the committee at 2:05 p.m. Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
Date Adopted by Committee: 04/20/2023
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The Appropriations Joint Subcommittee on Capital Outlay submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, April 12, 2023, at 4:00 p.m., Room 352, House Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators McDonald Rivet (C), Irwin, McCann, McMorrow, Camilleri, Damoose, Bumstead and Huizenga

Excused: Senator Santana

Scheduled Meetings

State Drug Treatment Court Advisory – Thursday, April 20, 9:00 a.m., Legislative Council Conference Room, 3rd Floor, Boji Tower (517) 373-0212

Veterans and Emergency Services – Wednesday, April 19, 8:30 a.m., Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5312

Senator Singh moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 10:58 a.m.

In pursuance of the order previously made, the President, Lieutenant Governor Gilchrist, declared the Senate adjourned until Wednesday, April 19, 2023, at 10:00 a.m.

DANIEL OBERLIN

Secretary of the Senate


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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 12, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Elections and Ethics was scheduled for Wednesday, April 12, 2023, at
3:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 259 (S-1) (Sen. Wojno) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:04 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson
and McBroom, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from March 15, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Senator Wojno to summarize SB 259 and Wojno amendment #1. Member questions followed.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #1 to SB 259. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson, and McBroom.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding Senate Bill 259:
Major Richie Sands, Michigan Veterans Affairs Agency – Support
Director Adam Hollier, Michigan Veterans Affairs Agency – Support
Erin Schor, MI Department of State – Support
Chris Swope, Lansing City Clerk – Support
Melanie Macey, Promote the Vote – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 259:
Rusty Merchant, Secure Democracy – Support
Bill Zaagman, MI Association of County Clerks – Support
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Jamie Lyons-Eddy, Voters Not Politicians – Support
Merissa Kovach, ACLU of Michigan – Support
Olivia Luckett, Voter Protection Director, MI Democratic Party – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Senator Wojno to report SB 259 as amended, as a clean substitute, to the
floor with recommendations that the bill pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson, and McBroom.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 259 (S-1). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:28 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: May 17, 2023
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location: Room 519, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 13, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: Rep. Whitsett.
Excused: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative VanderWall joined the committee remotely.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4340, HB 4341 and HB 4342 before the committee:
HB 4340
(Rep. VanderWall)
A bill to amend 1973 PA 116, entitled "An act to
provide for the protection of children through the
licensing and regulation of child care
organizations; to provide for the establishment of
standards of care for child care organizations; to
prescribe powers and duties of certain departments
of this state and adoption facilitators; to provide
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending section 1 (MCL 722.111), as amended
by 2022 PA 208, and by adding section 3i.
HB 4341
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to create a program to assist certain child
care centers and schools with the acquisition,
installation, and maintenance of certain filtered
water stations and faucets; to provide for the
sampling and testing of water from certain water
outlets; to create certain funds; and to provide for
the duties of certain state departments and officers.
HB 4342
(Rep. Neeley)
A bill to amend 1973 PA 116, entitled "An act to
provide for the protection of children through the
licensing and regulation of child care
organizations; to provide for the establishment of
standards of care for child care organizations; to
prescribe powers and duties of certain departments
of this state and adoption facilitators; to provide
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts,"
(MCL 722.111 to 722.128) by adding sections 3j,
3k, and 3l.
Representative Puri testified in support of HB 4340, HB 4341 and HB 4342.
Minority Vice Chair VanderWall testified in support of HB 4340, HB 4341 and HB 4342.
Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Neeley testified in support of HB 4340, HB 4341 and HB 4342. Questions
and discussion followed.
Rebecca Lazarus representing the herself testified in support of HB 4340, HB 4341 and HB
4342. Questions and discussion followed.
Elin Warn Betanzo representing the Safe Water Engineering testified in support of HB 4340,
HB 4341 and HB 4342. Questions and discussion followed.
Cyndi Roper representing the National Resources Defense Council testified in support of HB
4340, HB 4341 and HB 4342.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4340, HB 4341 and HB 4342, but
did not wish to speak:
Rhonda Grant, representing the Blue Conduit.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Sean McBrearty, representing the Clean Water Action.
Paige Fults, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Frank Waters, representing the Michigan Primary Care Association.
Norm Hess, representing the Michigan Association for Local Public Health.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal and Child Health.
Colin Ford, representing the Michigan Chapter - American Academy of Pediatrics.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Jennifer McKay, Policy Director, representing the Tip of the Mitt Watershed Council.
Mike Compagnoni, representing the MI Section - American Water Works Association.
Charlotte Jameson, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Logan Vorce, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Malcolm Pulley, representing the students.
Zoe Pittman, representing the themself.
Morgan McKissack, representing the themself.
Genesis Lodise, representing the themself.
Lilliana English, representing the themself.
Maia Lodise, representing the themself.
Mia Burton, representing the students.
Dynisti Porter, representing the themself.
Merissa Kovach, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4341, but did not wish to speak:
Travis Boeskool, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes,
and Energy.
Representative Farhat moved to excuse Representative Whitsett from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:06 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: April 19, 2023


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 13, 2023
9:00 a.m.
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: Rep. Grant.
Excused: Rep. Grant.
Representative Bruck joined the committee remotely.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023. There
being no objections, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4376 before the committee:
HB 4376
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
1207 (MCL 500.1207), as amended by 2018 PA
449.
At 9:07 a.m., the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:08 a.m., Majority Vice Chair McFall called the committee back to order.
The Chair explained HB 4376. The Chair asked Joseph Sullivan, Legislative Liaison at
Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services DIFS. and Michelle Riddering,
Director of the Office of Insurance Licensing and Market Conduct in (DIFS), to join her and
to address two members questions.
At 9:17 a.m., Majority Vice Chair McFall laid the committee at ease.
At 9:18 a.m., the Chair called the committee back to order.
Joseph Sullivan and Michelle Riddering, both representing the Michigan Department of
Insurance Financial Services, testified in support of HB 4376. Questions and discussion
followed.
The Chair laid before the committee a PowerPoint presentation presented by the Michigan
Association of Health Plans.
Dominick Pallone, Executive Director for the Michigan Association of Health Plans
(MAHP), testified on MAHP: Your Source for Health Care Information. Questions followed.
The Chair laid before the committee a PowerPoint presentation presented by Blue Cross Blue
Shield.
Mark Cook, Vice-President of Government and Regulatory Affairs for Blue Cross Blue
Shield of Michigan testified Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan-A nonprofit mutual insurer.
Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Scott moved to excuse Representative Grant from the meeting. There being no
objections, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Neyer moved to
adjourn. Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the meeting at 10:19 a.m.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Joy Brewer
Committee Clerk
joybrewer@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 13, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Wegela, Wozniak,
Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: Rep. Churches.
Excused: Rep. Churches.
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 16, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB
4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406
before the committee:
HB 4390
(Rep. Haadsma)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending sections 1, 13, 15, 18, and 19
(MCL 408.471, 408.483, 408.485, 408.488, and
408.489), section 1 as amended by 2016 PA 18,
and by adding sections 13c and 13d.
HB 4391
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," by amending section 471 (MCL
206.471), as amended by 2011 PA 38, and by
adding section 707a.
HB 4392
(Rep. Witwer)
A bill to amend 1980 PA 469, entitled "The
whistleblowers' protection act," by amending
sections 1, 2, and 3 (MCL 15.361, 15.362, and
15.363), section 3 as amended by 1982 PA 146.
HB 4393
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to make, supplement, and adjust
appropriations for various state departments and
agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30,
2023; to provide for certain conditions on
appropriations; and to provide for the expenditure
of the appropriations.
HB 4394
(Rep. Hill)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 11 (MCL 408.481).
HB 4395
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 2018 PA 337, entitled "Improved
workforce opportunity wage act," by amending
section 9 (MCL 408.939).
HB 4396
(Rep. Edwards)
A bill to amend 1980 PA 469, entitled "The
whistleblowers' protection act," by amending the
title and sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 (MCL 15.361,
15.362, 15.363, and 15.365), section 3 as amended
by 1982 PA 146, and by adding section 4a.
HB 4397
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to create the office of the state employee
ombudsman; to provide a process for investigating
and evaluating reports of suspected violations of
law, conduct or decisions that may endanger
public health or safety, and gross mismanagement
of public funds; to prescribe the powers and duties
of the office, the ombudsman, the legislative
council, and certain other state governmental
officers and entities; and to prescribe penalties and
provide remedies.
HB 4398
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to provide for remedies and prescribe civil
sanctions against a person that presents a false or
fraudulent claim to obtain money, property, or
services from this state or a local unit of
government; to prescribe the powers and duties of
certain state and local government officers and
agencies; to prohibit retaliation against a person
that pursues a remedy under this act; and to
authorize the attorney general to promulgate rules.
HB 4399
(Rep. Mentzer)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 274, entitled "Michigan
antitrust reform act," by amending section 4a
(MCL 445.774a), as added by 1987 PA 243.
HB 4401
(Rep. Whitsett)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 14 (MCL 408.484).
HB 4402
(Rep. Weiss)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 14b
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.14b), as added by
2002 PA 29.
HB 4403
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 15 (MCL 408.485).
HB 4404
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 18 (MCL 408.488).
HB 4405
(Rep. Churches)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 7 (MCL 408.477), as
amended by 2015 PA 15.
HB 4406
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 13a (MCL 408.483a),
as added by 1982 PA 524.
Tom Lutz, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights,
testified in support of HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396,
HB 4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB
4406. Questions and discussion followed.
John Bodary, representing Woods Construction, testified in support of HB 4390, HB 4391,
HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB 4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401,
HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406. Questions and discussion followed.
Wendy Block, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce, testified in opposition to
HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB 4397, HB 4398,
HB 4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406. Questions and
discussion followed.
Evan Howe, representing Integrity Interiors Inc., testified in support of HB 4390, HB 4391,
HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB 4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401,
HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406. Questions and discussion followed.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business, testified in
opposition to HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB
4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406.
Questions and discussion followed.
John Alpert, representing the Michigan Association for Justice, testified in support of HB
4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB 4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB 4397, HB 4398, HB
4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB 4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB 4393,
HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB 4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB 4403,
HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406, but did not wish to speak:
Peter Ruark, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Todd Tennis, representing the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Michigan
State Conference.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4392, HB
4393, HB 4394, HB 4395, HB 4396, HB 4397, HB 4398, HB 4399, HB 4401, HB 4402, HB
4403, HB 4404, HB 4405 and HB 4406, but did not wish to speak:
Brian Calley, representing the Small Business Association of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4390, HB 4391, HB 4395 and HB
4397, but did not wish to speak:
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4399, HB 4401 and HB 4406, but
did not wish to speak:
Dave Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Representative Mentzer moved to excuse Representative Churches from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 10:18 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, TOURISM AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION
REP. LAURIE POHUTSKY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 13, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Natural Resources, Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation
was called to order by Chair Pohutsky.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4185, HB 4186, HB 4187, HB 4188, HB 4189 and HB 4190 before the
committee:
HB 4185
(Rep. Mentzer)
A bill to amend 1974 PA 154, entitled "Michigan
occupational safety and health act," by amending
sections 4, 35, and 36 (MCL 408.1004, 408.1035,
and 408.1036), section 4 as amended by 2012 PA
416 and sections 35 and 36 as amended by 1991
PA 105.
HB 4186
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to allow local governments and certain
authorities to withhold payment under certain
conditions to contractors on an asbestos abatement
project; to provide for mandatory contract
conditions on certain asbestos abatement projects;
to provide for certain disclosures; and to prescribe
the powers and duties of certain local officials.
HB 4187
(Rep. Aiyash)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act,"
(MCL 324.101 to 324.90106) by adding section
5519b.
HB 4188
(Rep. Aiyash)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act,"
(MCL 324.101 to 324.90106) by adding sections
5519 and 5519a.
HB 4189
(Rep. VanderWall)
A bill to prohibit certain public entities from
entering into certain contracts with certain entities
that remove or abate asbestos; to require certain
entities to disclose certain information when
bidding on certain contracts with public entities;
and to impose certain duties and responsibilities
on certain public entities.
HB 4190
(Rep. VanderWall)
A bill to prohibit certain public entities from
entering into certain contracts with certain entities
that remove or abate asbestos; to require certain
entities to disclose certain information when
bidding on certain contracts with public entities;
and to impose certain duties and responsibilities
on certain public entities.
Representatives Aiyash and Representative Mentzer introduced HBs 4185, 4186, 4187, 4188,
4189 and 4190, Questions and discussion followed.
Travis Boeskool and Chris Ethridge from the Department of Environment, Great Lakes and
Energy gave testimony on HBs 4187 and 4188. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4185, HB 4186, HB 4187, HB 4188,
HB 4189 and HB 4190, but did not wish to speak:
Robert Joerg, representing the Michigan Laborers District Council.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Township Association.
Sean McBrearty, representing Clean Water Action.
Megan Tinsley, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Ethan Petzold, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club- Michigan.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Pohutsky adjourned the meeting
at 10:56 AM.
Representative Laurie Pohutsky, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
REP. FELICIA BRABEC
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 13, 2023
9:15 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Health Policy Subcommittee on Behavioral Health was called to order by Chair
Brabec.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brabec, Arbit, Pohutsky, Glanville, Edwards, Rheingans, Schmaltz,
Hoadley, St. Germaine, Thompson.
Absent: Rep. MacDonell.
Excused: Rep. MacDonell.
Representative Pohutsky moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Chair Brabec laid before the committee a presentation by Michelle Massey Barnes and Laura
Marshall, Co-Founders and Co-Directors, of Advocates for Mental Health of MI Youth.
Questions and discussion followed.
Jessica Nieto, representing herself, provided her families personal story. Questions and
discussion followed.
Stephanie Pizor, representing herself, was wishing to speak but unable due to time
constraints.
Representative Hoadley moved to excuse Representative MacDonell from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the subcommittee, Chair Brabec adjourned the
meeting at 10:26 AM.
Representative Felicia Brabec, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: May 18, 2023


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 13, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Thursday, April 13, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in the
1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 185 (Sen. Irwin).
2. Testimony regarding SB 169 (Sen. Cherry).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from March 14, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 185:
Annie Somerville, The Office of Sen. Irwin – Support
Ava Hill and Jenell Mansfield, Graduate Employees Union – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 169:
Sen. John Cherry – Support
Jonovan Luckey, SEIU 517M – Support
Yousef Rabhi, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 185:
Yousef Rabhi, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 169:
Ron Khoury, International Union of Operating Engineers – Support
Elizabeth Kelly Byrd, SEIU Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 169 and
SB 185:
Jenell Mansfield, AFT Michigan – Support
Steve Delie, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposition
Ryan Sebolt, MI AFL-CIO – Support
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There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:03 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 05/18/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 13, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
April 13, 2023, at 12:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Testimony regarding SB 66 (Sen. Chang).
2.
Testimony regarding SB 67 (Sen. Lauwers).
3.
Testimony regarding SB 68 (Sen. Geiss).
4.
Testimony regarding SB 69 (Sen. Theis).
5.
Testimony regarding SB 70 (Sen. Johnson).
6.
Testimony regarding SB 71 (Sen. Hauck).
7.
Testimony regarding SB 72 (Sen. McDonald Rivet).
8.
Testimony regarding SB 73 (Sen. Shink).
9.
Testimony regarding SB 236 (Sen. Irwin).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:11 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB’s 66 – 73 and SB 236.
The Chair summarized SB’s 66 – 70, and invited the following bill sponsors to summarize the bill(s):
Sen. Hauck summarized SB’s 71-72.
Sen. Shink summarized SB 73.
Sen. Irwin summarized SB 236.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony regarding SB 66:
Lydia Maciel, Self, Girls Making Change – Support
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The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB’s 66-73 and SB 236:
Heath Lawry, Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support
Johanna Kononen, Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support
Jane O’Shea, Michigan State Council of Junior Leagues – Support
Susie Sherman Hall, Michigan State Council of Junior Leagues – Support
Trinea Gonczar, Avalon Healing Center – Support
The Chair instructed the Clerk to read the cards submitted of those individuals not wishing to present testimony
regarding SB’s 66-73 and SB 236:
Jess Averill, Michigan Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support SB’s 66-73
Jess Averill, Michigan Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Neutral SB 236
Yousef Rabbi, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Tom Hickson, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support SB’s 66-73
Sara Morley LaCroix, Kalamazoo Area Anti Human Trafficking Coalition – Support
Jennifer Smith, Michigan Association of School Boards – Support SB 66
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:54 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 04/20/2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR MALLORY MCMORROW
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2523
FAX: (517) 373-5669
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 13, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Community Development was scheduled for Thursday,
April 13, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation from Quentin L. Messer Jr., Chief Executive & Economic Competitiveness Officer with the
MEDC.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:04 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet,
Moss, Geiss, Victory, Lindsey and Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to adopt the meeting minutes from March 16, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Quentin L. Messer Jr., Chief Executive & Economic Competitiveness Officer with the MEDC
for a presentation on the SOAR Fund. Member questions followed.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:28 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: April 20, 2023
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location: Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on EGLE submitted the following:

Meeting held on Thursday, April 13, 2023, at 3:00 p.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Irwin (C), Singh, McDonald Rivet, Shink, Cherry, Bayer, Bumstead, Hauck and Outman


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
SENATOR DAYNA POLEHANKI
CHAIR
310 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7350
FAX: (517) 373-9228
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 13, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education was scheduled for Thursday, April 13, 2023, at 4:00 p.m., in
the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4166 (Rep. Koleszar).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:01 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, Damoose and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from March 21, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. McDonald Rivet
was excused from the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4166:
Rep. Matt Koleszar – Support
Sue Carnell and Chris Janzer, Michigan Department of Education – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4166:
Brian Shoaf, Detroit Regional Chamber – Opposition
Beth DeShone, GLEP Education Fund – Opposition
Molly Macek, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposition
Mike Latvis, Wayne RESA – Support
David Randels, Oakland Schools – Support
Bob Kefgen, Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals – Support
Chris Glass, Education Advocates of West Michigan – Support
Peter Spadafore, Michigan Alliance for Student Opportunity – Support
Jennifer Smith, Michigan Association of School Boards – Support
Dirk Weeldreyer, School Equity Caucus – Support
Paul Liabenow, Michigan Elementary and Middle School Principals Association – Support
David Michelson, Michigan Education Association – Support
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Matt Scheuller, Michigan Association of Superintendents and Administrators – Support
Jerry Johnson, Barry, Branch, Calhoun Jackson, Lenawee, and Monroe ISDs – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:39 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 04/25/23
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location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

evidence_text:
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 13, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on EGLE was scheduled for Thursday, April 13, 2023, at
3:00 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the following
members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Singh, McDonald Rivet, Shink, Cherry, Bayer, Bumstead, Hauck
and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair made a motion to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023 and March 16, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding water use and groundwater.
Teresa Seidel and Travis Boeskool, Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy – No Position
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding water infrastructure projects and
funding.
Amy O'Leary and Rachael Barlock, Southeast Michigan Council of Governments – No Position
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:43pm.
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MEMBERS:
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. DAN LAUWERS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
SEN. RICK OUTMAN
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENT
SENATOR SEAN MCCANN
CHAIR
7100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-5100
FAX: (517) 373-5115
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 13, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Energy and Environment was scheduled for Thursday, April 13, 2023, at
1:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 14 (Sen. McCann).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:33 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel,
Camilleri, Chang, Polehanki, Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized SB 14.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 14:
Charlotte Jameson, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
Ethan Peizold and Nick Occhipinti, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Caroline Liethen, Michigan Manufacturing Association – Oppose
Tim Minotas, Sierra Club Michigan Chapter – Support
Sara Cambensy, Michigan Chemistry Council – Neutral
Liz Kirkwood, For the Love of Water – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to testify before the committee regarding SB 14:
Sean McBrearty, Clean Water Action – Support
Amanda Fisher, NFIB – Oppose
Katie Gordon, Grand Rapids Chamber – Oppose
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 14:
Rebecca Esselman, Huron River Watershed Council – Support
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Amy O'Leary, Southeast Council of Governments – Support
John Fournier, City of Ann Arbor – Support
Beth Wallace, National Wildlife Federation – Support
Cyndi Roper, Natural Resources Defense Council – Support
Bill Wood, West Michigan Environmental Action Council – Support
Michael Garfield, Ecology Center – Support
Jennifer McKay, Tip of the Mitt Watershed Council – Support
Horst Schmidt, Upper Peninsula Environmental Coalition – Support
Erin Stanley, Eastside Community Network – Support
Victoria Loong, We the People of Detroit – Support
Ann Rogers, Northern Michigan Environmental Action Council – Support
Erica Bloom, Great Lakes PFAS Network – Support
Yousef Rabhi, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Travis Boeskool, EGLE – Support
Mack Jones, LARA – Support
Ben Tirrell, Michigan Farm Bureau – Oppose
Dawn Crandall, Homebuilders Association of Michigan – Oppose
Jason Hayes, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Oppose
Charles Hauser, Granger – Oppose
Amy Drumm, Michigan Retailers Association – Oppose
Mike Alaimo, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Oppose
Kelli Saunders, Small Business Association of Michigan – Oppose
Chris Phillips, Landfill Management Co. – Oppose
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:31 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: April 20, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
REP. REGGIE MILLER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 19, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Agriculture was called to order by Chair Miller.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans,
Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by Presentation by Michigan Milk
Producers - Sheila Burkhardt. Questions and discussions followed.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by Michigan Association of Conservation
Districts - Dan Moilanen. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Miller adjourned the meeting at
10:27 AM.
Representative Reggie Miller, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 19, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
At 9:00 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:02 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: Rep. Whitsett.
Excused: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative Neeley moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 22, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by Laura Clark, Chief Information
Officer, and Jack Harris, Chief Technology Officer, Michigan Department of Technology,
Management and Budget. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Andrews moved to excuse Representative Whitsett from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
9:51 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 19, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
The Chair laid HB 4125 before the committee:
HB 4125
(Rep. Rheingans)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to 380.1852) by
adding section 1310e.
Representative Rheingans testified in support of HB 4125. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4125, but did not wish
to speak:
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Alliance for Student Opportunity.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4125, but did not wish to speak:
Sheryl Kennedy, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
The Chair laid SB 147 before the committee:
SB 147
(Sen. Geiss)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 453, entitled "Elliott-
Larsen civil rights act," by amending sections 201
and 202 (MCL 37.2201 and 37.2202), section 201
as amended by 1980 PA 202 and section 202 as
amended by 2009 PA 190.
Senator Geiss testified in support of SB 147. Questions and discussion followed.
Genevieve Marnon, representing Right to Life of Michigan, testified in opposition to SB 147.
Questions and discussion followed.
Merissa Kovach, representing the ACLU of Michigan, testified in support of SB 147.
Questions and discussion followed.
Nicole Wells Stallworth, representing Planned Parenthood, testified in support of SB 147.
Questions and discussion followed.
Rebecca Mastee, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference, testified in opposition to
SB 147. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 147, but did not wish to speak:
Judy Karandjeff, representing the League of Women Voters of America.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 147, but did not wish to speak:
Stephanie Kreuz, representing Heritage Action for America.
William Wagner, representing the Great Lakes Justice Center.
Katherine Bussard, representing Salt and Light Global.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 147. The motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
Representative Johnsen offered the following amendment to SB 147:
1. Amend page 1, following "THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN
ENACT:" by inserting:
"Sec. 102a. This act does not apply to any claim of discrimination subject to the
ministerial exception described in Our Lady of Guadalupe Sch. v Morrissey-Berru, 140 S
Ct 2049 (2020), and Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church & Sch v EEOC, 565
U.S. 171 (2012).".
Representative Johnsen moved to adopt the amendment to SB 147. The motion did not
prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out SB 147 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid SB 18 before the committee:
SB 18
(Sen. Chang)
A bill to amend 2003 PA 225, entitled "An act to
designate March 31 of each year as Cesar E.
Chavez day in the state of Michigan; to designate
July 14 of each year as President Gerald R. Ford
day in the state of Michigan; and to designate July
30 of each year as Henry Ford day in the state of
Michigan," (MCL 435.301 to 435.303) by
amending the title and by adding section 4.
Senator Chang testified in support of SB 18. Questions and discussion followed.
Dr. Karen Korematsu, representing herself as the daughter of Fred Korematsu, testified in
support of SB 18.
Naoko Wake, Professor of History and Director, Asian Pacific American Studies Program at
Michigan State University, testified in support of SB 18.
Roland Hwang, Professor of APIA Studies, Department of American Culture at the
University of Michigan, testified in support of SB 18.
Representative Hoskins moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 18. The motion prevailed 13-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Edwards moved to report out SB 18 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4120, HB 4121, HB 4122, HB 4123, HB 4124 before the committee and
returned to HB 4125:
HB 4120
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1975 PA 238, entitled "Child
protection law," (MCL 722.621 to 722.638) by
adding section 3b.
HB 4121
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 16221 (MCL
333.16221), as amended by 2020 PA 232.
HB 4122
(Rep. Hope)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 16226 (MCL
333.16226), as amended by 2020 PA 233.
HB 4123
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 483a
(MCL 750.483a), as added by 2000 PA 451.
HB 4124
(Rep. Glanville)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," (MCL 750.1 to 750.568) by
adding section 478b.
HB 4125
(Rep. Rheingans)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to 380.1852) by
adding section 1310e.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4120, HB 4121, HB 4122, HB 4123,
HB 4124 and HB 4125, but did not wish to speak:
Tom Hickson, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
Representative Edwards moved to report out HB 4120 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out HB 4121 with recommendation. The
motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report out HB 4122 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 4123 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 4124 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Dievendorf moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4125. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Edwards moved to report out HB 4125 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4176 and SB 32 before the committee:
HB 4176
(Rep. Tyrone Carter)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 8 (MCL 408.478).
SB 32
(Sen. Santana)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 390, entitled "An act to
regulate the time and manner of payment of wages
and fringe benefits to employees; to prescribe
rights and responsibilities of employers and
employees, and the powers and duties of the
department of labor; to require keeping of records;
to provide for settlement of disputes regarding
wages and fringe benefits; to prohibit certain
practices by employers; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to repeal certain acts and parts of
acts," by amending section 8 (MCL 408.478).
Representative Tyrone Carter and Senator Santana testified in support of HB 4176 and SB 32.
Questions and discussion followed.
Hassan Beydoun, Counsel to Mayor Duggan, City of Detroit, testified in support of HB 4176
and SB 32.
David LeValley, Assistant Chief of the Detroit Police Department, testified in support of HB
4176 and SB 32. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Hoskins moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
11:44 AM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JOHN FITZGERALD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 19, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to order by
Chair Fitzgerald.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn,
Paquette, Bezotte, BeGole, Prestin.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Breen moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 15, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
At 12:02 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:04 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4375 before the committee:
HB 4375
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 2003 PA 258, entitled "Land bank
fast track act," by amending section 3 (MCL
124.753).
Representative Grant testified in support of HB 4375. Questions and discussion followed.
Karyn Ferrick and Mayor Rosalynn Bliss, representing the City of Grand Rapids, testified in
support of HB 4375. Questions and discussion followed.
Jen Rigterink, representing the Michigan Municipal League, testified in support of HB 4375.
Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by Stacy Hissong, representing the
Michigan Association of County Drain Commissioners. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Fitzgerald adjourned the
meeting at 12:54 PM.
Representative John Fitzgerald, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 19, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: Reps. Whitsett, Outman.
Excused: Reps. Whitsett, Outman.
Representative Brixie moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 12, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4084 before the committee:
HB 4084
(Rep. Shannon)
A bill to amend 2014 PA 92, entitled "State
essential services assessment act," (MCL 211.1051
to 211.1061) by adding section 7a.
Representative Shannon testified in support of HB 4084. Questions and discussion followed.
Jennifer Varney and Mark Vanderpool, representing the City of Sterling Heights, and John
LeMacchia, representing the Michigan Municipal League, testified in support of HB 4084.
Questions and discussion followed.
David Ruman, representing J.G. Kern Enterprises, testified in support of HB 4084. Questions
and discussion followed.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association, testified in support of
HB 4084. Questions and discussion followed.
Peter Morman, and David Buick, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury, testified
with a neutral position on HB 4084.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4084, but did not wish to speak:
Amanda Tomich, representing the Michigan Assessors Association.
Michigan Township Association.
Representative Farhat moved to report out HB 4084 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Price moved to excuse Representatives Whitsett and Outman from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:34 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, April 19, 2023
3:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Bruck joined the committee remotely.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 11, 2023. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4250, HB 4251 and HB 4252 before the committee:
HB 4250
(Rep. Koleszar)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 602b (MCL
257.602b), as amended by 2016 PA 332.
HB 4251
(Rep. Tyrone Carter)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending sections 319, 319b,
and 320a (MCL 257.319, 257.319b, and
257.320a), section 319 as amended by 2020 PA
376, section 319b as amended by 2015 PA 11, and
section 320a as amended by 2018 PA 349.
HB 4252
(Rep. Mueller)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending sections 602c, 732,
and 907 (MCL 257.602c, 257.732, and 257.907),
section 602c as added by 2012 PA 592, section
732 as amended by 2017 PA 160, and section 907
as amended by 2020 PA 382.
The Chair briefly explained proposed substitute (H-3) to HB 4250.
Representative Outman moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4250. The motion prevailed 12-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoskins moved to report out HB 4250 with recommendation, as substitute (H-3).
The motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4251. The motion prevailed 12-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoskins moved to report out HB 4251 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair briefly explained proposed substitute (H-2) to HB 4252.
Representative MacDonell moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4252. The motion prevailed
12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 4252 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
2). The motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4250, HB 4251 and HB 4252, but did
not wish to speak:
Ed Noyola, representing the County Road Association of Michigan.
Kevin McKinney, the Michigan Brain Injury Association.
Jim deSpelder, representing the County Road Association Self Insurance Fund.
Angela Ayers, representing Ford Motor Company.
Kevin McKinney, representing the Michigan Brain Injury Provider Council.
Mark de la Verghe, representing Cavnue.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4250, HB 4251 and HB 4252, but did
not wish to speak:
Merissa Kovach, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting at
3:49 PM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. RICK OUTMAN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AND
EMERGENCY SERVICES
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Veterans and Emergency Services was scheduled for Wednesday, April
19, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation by the Michigan Commanders Group.
2. Presentation by the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.
3. Reported HB 4199 (Rep. Conlin) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adopt the meeting minutes from March 22, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to give the committee a presentation:
Tim Poxson, Legislative Chair, the American Legion Department of Michigan
Jack Devine, Legislative Chair, The Commanders Group
Derek Blumke, Veterans of Foreign Wars Adjutant
Sarah Anderson, Veterans of Foreign Wars Information Officer
Kevin Hensley, Veterans of Foreign Wars Federal Legislative Chair
Beth Gonzales, Disabled American Veterans Legislative Chair
The Chair brought up HB 4199 and invited Rep. Conlin to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4199:
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Terry Sabo, Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs – Support
Sgt. Major Dave Lewis – Support
Capt. Steven Babbit – Support
Jeff Frisby – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4199:
Tim Poxson, American Legion Legislative Chair – Support
Brian Shoaf, Detroit Regional Chamber – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4199 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:25 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 05/17/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, April 19, 2023, at 12:30
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 219 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
Due to Senate Session, the committee was delayed.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the meeting minutes from April 12, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
Sen. Santana offered an (S-1) version of SB 219.
The Chair invited Sen. Santana to summarize the (S-1) version of SB 219.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 219:
Rachel Carl, Walmart – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 219. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report the (S-1) version of SB 219 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:05 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: April 26, 2023
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location: Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Joint Subcommittee on Agriculture and Natural Resources submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, April 19, 2023, at 12:00 noon, Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators Cherry (C), Shink, Singh, Bumstead and Theis


evidence_text:
The Appropriations Joint Subcommittee on Capital Outlay submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, April 19, 2023, at 4:00 p.m., Room 352, House Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators McDonald Rivet (C), Irwin, McCann, McMorrow, Camilleri, Santana, Damoose, Bumstead and Huizenga

Scheduled Meetings

Appropriations –

Subcommittee –

Military, Veterans, State Police – Tuesday, April 25, 9:00 a.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

Senator Singh moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 10:41 a.m.

The President pro tempore, Senator Moss, declared the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, April 25, 2023, at 10:00 a.m.

DANIEL OBERLIN

Secretary of the Senate


evidence_text:
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Agriculture and Natural Resources was scheduled for
Wednesday, April 19, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:01 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Shink, Singh, Bumstead and Theis, a quorum was
present.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Singh, to adopt the SB 188-1 substitute to the Committee on
Appropriations. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Shink, and Singh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Bumstead and Theis.
The motion prevailed and the substitute was adopted.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:10 p.m.
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 20, 2023
1:00 PM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Hope moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 11, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 259 before the committee:
SB 259
(Sen. Wojno)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending sections 759a and
764a (MCL 168.759a and 168.764a), section 759a
as amended by 2022 PA 197 and section 764a as
amended by 2020 PA 177.
Bill Drake, representing Senator Wojno's Office, testified in support of SB 259. Questions
and discussion followed.
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State, testified in support of SB 259.
Questions and discussion followed.
Terry Sabo, representing the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs, testified
with no position on SB 259. Questions and discussion followed.
Chris Swope, representing the Michigan Association of Municipal Clerks, testified in support
of SB 259. Questions and discussion followed.
Melanie Macey, representing Promote the Vote, testified in support of SB 259. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 259, but did not wish to speak:
Olivia Luckey, representing the Michigan Democratic Party.
Matt Patton, representing Protect Democracy.
Rusty Merchant, representing Secure Democracy.
Judy Karandjeff, representing the League of Women Voters of Michigan.
Brad Williams, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
Jamie Lyons-Eddy, representing Voters Not Politicians.
Bill Zaagman, representing the Michigan Association of County Clerks.
Merissa Kovach, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.
Representative Smit offered the following amendment to SB 259:
1. Amend page 10, line 1, after "is" by striking out "missing or".
Representative Smit moved to adopt the amendment to SB 259. The motion did not prevail 2-
6-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Nays: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Pass: None.
Representative DeBoyer offered the following amendment to SB 259:
1. Amend page 10, line 11, after "any" by striking out "delivery service" and inserting
"common carrier".
Representative DeBoyer moved to adopt the amendment to SB 259. The motion did not
prevail 2-6-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Nays: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Pass: None.
Representative Byrnes moved to report out SB 259 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 1:59 PM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ETHICS AND OVERSIGHT
REP. ERIN BYRNES
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 20, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Ethics and Oversight was called to order by Chair Byrnes.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Byrnes, Hope, Breen, Churches, Hoskins, Wegela, Kunse, Wozniak, Harris.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Churches moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 23, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid the presentation from Voters Not Politicians before the Committee.
Nancy Wang, Executive Director of Voters Not Politicians, provided a presentation on Ethics and
Oversight in Michigan. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Byrnes adjourned the meeting at
11:04 AM.
Representative Erin Byrnes, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 20, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz,
Thompson.
Absent: Reps. Whitsett, Neeley, Filler.
Excused: Reps. Whitsett, Neeley, Filler.
Representative Coffia moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 13, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4409 before the committee:
HB 4409
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to require drug manufacturers to report
certain information to the department of insurance
and financial services; to provide for the powers
and duties of certain state officers and entities; to
allow for the promulgation of rules; and to
prescribe civil sanctions.
Representative Steckloff testified in support of HB 4409. Questions and discussion followed.
Karen Jonas, Pharmacist, representing the Michigan Association of Health Plans, testified in
support of HB 4409. Questions and discussion followed.
Shauna Gardner, Director of State Policy, representing the Pharmaceutical Research and
Manufacturers of America, testified in opposition to HB 4409. Questions and discussion
followed.
The Chair laid HB 4362, HB 4363 and HB 4364 before the committee:
HB 4362
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," by amending section 471 (MCL
206.471), as amended by 2011 PA 38, and by
adding section 474.
HB 4363
(Rep. Neeley)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 10105 and
10120 (MCL 333.10105 and 333.10120), section
10105 as amended and section 10120 as added by
2008 PA 39.
HB 4364
(Rep. Price)
A bill to amend 1941 PA 122, entitled "An act to
establish the revenue collection duties of the
department of treasury; to prescribe its powers and
duties as the revenue collection agency of this
state; to prescribe certain powers and duties of the
state treasurer; to establish the collection duties of
certain other state departments for money or
accounts owed to this state; to regulate the
importation, stamping, and disposition of certain
tobacco products; to provide for the transfer of
powers and duties now vested in certain other
state boards, commissions, departments, and
offices; to prescribe certain duties of and require
certain reports from the department of treasury; to
provide procedures for the payment,
administration, audit, assessment, levy of interests
or penalties on, and appeals of taxes and tax
liability; to prescribe its powers and duties if an
agreement to act as agent for a city to administer,
collect, and enforce the city income tax act on
behalf of a city is entered into with any city; to
provide an appropriation; to abolish the state
board of tax administration; to prescribe penalties
and provide remedies; and to declare the effect of
this act," by amending section 28 (MCL 205.28),
as amended by 2017 PA 215.
Representative Brabec and Representative Price testified in support of HB 4362, HB 4363
and HB 4364. Questions and discussion followed.
Patrick Wells OBrien, VP Communications and External Relations, representing the Gift of
Life Michigan in Ann Arbor, testified in support of HB 4362, HB 4363 and HB 4364.
Questions and discussion followed.
Armond Baskin representing himself as a Flint resident in need of a kidney, testified in
support of HB 4362, HB 4363 and HB 4364.
Amanda West and Jeff Guilfoyle, both representing the Michigan Department of Treasury,
testified in support of HB 4362, HB 4363 and HB 4364. Questions and discussion followed.
Erin Shor representing the Michigan Department of State testified in support of HB 4362, HB
4363 and HB 4364.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4362, HB 4363 and HB 4364, but
did not wish to speak:
Sean Gehle and Autumn Outman, representing Trinity Health Michigan.
Patricia Jo Herndon, Donor Sister and Aunt, representing the Michigan Donor Family
Council.
Gabe Basso, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Sean Sorenson-Abbott, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Chair Rogers returned to HB 4409.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4409, but did not wish to speak:
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Allisyn Mattice, representing the McLaren Health Plan.
Rory Lafferty, representing the Health Alliance Plan.
Sean Sorenson-Abbott, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Nicole Felix, representing the Meridian Health Plan.
Melissa Holmquist, representing the Upper Peninsula Health Plan.
Kristen Kraft, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan.
Keith Lake, representing America's Health Insurance Plans.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4409, but did not wish to speak:
Jessie Crews, representing Gilead Sciences.
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Representative Farhat moved to excuse Representatives Whitsett, Neeley and Filler from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:42 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 20, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Bruck joined the committee remotely.
Representative Rogers moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 13, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4376 before the committee:
HB 4376
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
1207 (MCL 500.1207), as amended by 2018 PA
449.
Joseph Sullivan representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services
testified in support of HB 4376, as proposed substitute (H-1).
Representative Fitzgerald moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4376. The motion prevailed
16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4376, but did not wish to speak:
Alex Hougeman, representing Big I Michigan.
Rob Anderson, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Marcia Hune, representing the Life Insurance Association of Michigan.
Chuck May, representing the National Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors -
Michigan.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 4376 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4377 before the committee:
HB 4377
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
by amending section 4d (MCL 205.94d), as
amended by 2015 PA 172.
Representative Stone moved to refer HB 4377 to the Committee on Tax Policy. The motion
prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation on The Institutes Griffith Foundation.
Frank Paul Tomasello, Executive Director of The Institutes Griffith Foundation and Dr.
Robert W. Klein, Professor Emeritus of Risk Management with Georgia State University, and
Affiliate Senior Research Fellow with Temple University gave the presentation. Questions
and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Harris moved to
adjourn. Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the meeting at 10:16 AM.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Justin Easter
Acting Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, April 20, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela,
Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Koleszar moved to adopt the meeting minutes from April 13, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4233 before the committee:
HB 4233
(Rep. Churches)
A bill to amend 1947 PA 336, entitled "An act to
prohibit strikes by certain public employees; to
provide review from disciplinary action with
respect thereto; to provide for the mediation of
grievances and the holding of elections; to declare
and protect the rights and privileges of public
employees; to require certain provisions in
collective bargaining agreements; to prescribe
means of enforcement and penalties for the
violation of the provisions of this act; and to make
appropriations," by amending section 10 (MCL
423.210), as amended by 2014 PA 414.
Representative Churches moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4233. The motion prevailed
7-3-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Pass: None.
Representative Churches, and Matt Race, from Grosse Ile Schools, testified in support of HB
4233. Questions and discussion followed.
Kathi Martin, representing the Dearborn Federation of Teachers, testified in support of HB
4233.
Rick Catherman, representing the Michigan Education Association, testified in support of HB
4233. Questions and discussion followed.
Steve Rzeppa, representing the American Federation of State, County and Municipal
Employees, testified in support of HB 4233.
Lakia Wilson, representing the Detroit Federation of Teachers 23, testified in support of HB
4233.
Jima Gilbert-Thomas, representing the Michigan Education Association, testified in support
of HB 4233.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4233, but did not wish to speak:
Andy Neumann, representing the Michigan Education Association.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the Michigan American Federation of Labor and Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
Beth Byrd, representing the Service Employees International Union Michigan.
Jonavan Luckey, representing the Service Employees International Union 517M.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Jenell Mansfield, representing the American Federation of Teachers Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4233, but did not wish to speak:
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 9:56 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 20, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Thursday, April 20, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., in the
1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 244 (Sen. Bumstead).
2. Reported SB 185 (S-5) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 244:
Sen. Jon Bumstead – Support
Dave Glotzbach, Muskegon Township Fire Department – Support
Dave Hodgkins, Michigan Municipal League – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 244:
Johnny Menifee, Michigan Association of Fire Chiefs – Support
Yousef Rabhi, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Judy Allen, MTA – Opposition
Josh Mosher, Northern Michigan Association of Fire Chiefs – Support
Stephanie Johnson, Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police – Support
Mark Cleveland, Western Michigan Association of Fire Chiefs – Support
Jim Williams, Michigan Fire Inspectors Society – Support
Don Biger, Michigan Fire Service Instructors Association – Support
Mike Burke, Michigan State Firemen's Association – Support
Matt Sahr, Michigan Professional Firefighters Union – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 185:
Dan Hurley, Michigan Association of State Universities – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 169:
Dave Hodgkins, Michigan Municipal League – Opposition
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #1, to SB 185.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #1 to SB 185. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the (S-5) version of SB 185. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the (S-5) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report the (S-5) version of SB 185 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:12 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 05/04/23
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