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MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN DALEY, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
SEN. ED MCBROOM
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. WINNIE BRINKS
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY
SENATOR RICK OUTMAN
CHAIR
4400 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-3760
FAX: (517) 373-8661
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 15, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Environmental Quality was scheduled for Tuesday, October 15, 2019, at
1:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4389 (Rep. Allor).
2. Testimony regarding HB 4390 (Rep. Yaroch).
3. Testimony regarding HB 4391 (Rep. Yaroch).
4. Testimony regarding SB 402 (Sen. MacGregor).
5. Testimony regarding SB 403 (Sen. Outman).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:04 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Outman, Sen.(s) Daley, Johnson, VanderWall, McBroom, Bayer, and
Brinks, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Daley to adopt the meeting minutes from June 18, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Rep.(s) Allor and Yaroch to summarize HB 4389 – HB 4391.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4389, HB 4390 and HB 4391:
Charlotte Jameson, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4389:
John Dulmes, Michigan Chemistry Council – Support
Travis Boeskool and Steve Sliver, Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes and Energy –
Support
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4390
and HB 4391:
Derek Sova, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4389,
HB 4390 and HB 4391:
Marc Smith, National Wildlife Foundation – Support
Alia Phillips, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Herasanna Richards, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Michael Spence, Southeast Michigan Council of Governments – Support
The Chair invited Sen. MacGregor to summarize SB 402.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 402:
Travis Boeskool and Steve Sliver, Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes and Energy – No
Position
The Chair summarized SB 403.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 403:
John Yellich, Michigan Geological Survey – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 402 and
SB 403:
Marc Smith, National Wildlife Foundation – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:26 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 22, 2019
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MEMBERS:
SEN. PETER J. LUCIDO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. MICHAEL D. MACDONALD
SEN. JEFF IRWIN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
SENATOR ED MCBROOM
CHAIR
7200 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7840
FAX: (517) 373-3932
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 15, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Oversight was scheduled for Tuesday, October 15, 2019, at 2:00
p.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 201 (Sen. Nesbitt).
2. Testimony regarding SB 404 (Sen. McBroom).
3. Testimony regarding HB 4336 (Rep. S. Johnson).
4. Testimony regarding HB 4574 (Rep. LaGrand).
5. Testimony regarding HB 4468 (Rep. S. Johnson).
_______________________________________________________________________________________
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:06 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McBroom, Sen.(s) Lucido, Theis and Irwin, a quorum was present.
The Chair invited the committee to recite the Pledge of Alliance.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to adopt the meeting minutes from October 8, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Nesbitt and Rep. S. Johnson to summarize SB 201, SB 404, HB 4336 and HB 4574.
Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 201, SB 404, HB 4336 and
HB 4574:

Doug Ringler and Laura Hirst, Office of the Auditor General – support. Member questions
followed.
The Chair invited Jon Mieczkowski, of Rep. S. Johnson's office, and their constituent, Tom Lambert to
summarize HB 4468. Member questions followed.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lucido, to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. MacDonald was excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to
adjourn the meeting. Without objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:57 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 10/22/2019


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. SHANE HERNANDEZ
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16,
2019
9:00
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Standing Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Hernandez.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hernandez, Miller, Sheppard, Albert, Allor, Brann, VanSingel, Whiteford,
Yaroch, Bollin, Glenn, Green, Huizenga, Lightner, Maddock, Slagh, VanWoerkom, Hoadley,
Love, Pagan, Hammoud, Peterson, Sabo, Anthony, Brixie, Cherry, Hood, Kennedy, Tate.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Lightner moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 11, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4125 before the committee:
HB 4125
(Rep. VanSingel)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281,
entitled "Income tax act of 1967,"by amending sections 51
and 51d (MCL 206.51 and 206.51d), as amended by 2018 PA
588; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
Representative Miller moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4125. The motion prevailed 28-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hernandez, Miller, Sheppard, Albert, Allor, Brann, VanSingel, Whiteford,
Yaroch, Bollin, Glenn, Green, Huizenga, Lightner, Slagh, VanWoerkom, Hoadley, Love,
Pagan, Hammoud, Peterson, Sabo, Anthony, Brixie, Cherry, Hood, Kennedy, Tate.
Nays: Rep. Maddock.
Pass: None.
Representative VanSingel introduced the bill and substitute (H-2).
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4125, but did not wish to speak:
Dirk Wheeldreyer, representing the School Equity Caucus.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents.
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals.
Jeff Cobb, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Matt Kurta, representing the ESA Legislative Group.
Representative VanSingel moved to report out HB 4125 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
2). The motion prevailed 28-1-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hernandez, Miller, Sheppard, Albert, Allor, Brann, VanSingel, Whiteford,
Yaroch, Bollin, Glenn, Green, Huizenga, Lightner, Slagh, VanWoerkom, Hoadley, Love,
Pagan, Hammoud, Peterson, Sabo, Anthony, Brixie, Cherry, Hood, Kennedy, Tate.
Nays: Rep. Maddock.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Shane Hernandez adjourned the
meeting at 9:07 AM.
Representative Shane Hernandez, Chair
Matt Carnagie
Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
REP. JULIE CALLEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
10:31 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Elections and Ethics was called to order by the Chair.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Calley, Sheppard, Hornberger, Marino, Paquette, Guerra, Hope.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Paquette moved to adopt the minutes from the October 2nd, 2019 meeting. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4823 before the committee:
HB 4823
(Rep. Bellino)
A bill to amend 1893 PA 206, entitled" The
general property tax act," by amending section 24f (MCL
211.24f), as amended by 2000 PA 244.
Representative Paquette offered the following amendment to HB 4823:
1. Amend page 4, line 12, after "schools"" by inserting "if a list of each school district and
other constituent districts to which revenue from the millage will be disbursed is posted
by the city or township clerk in 1 or more conspicuous places in each election precinct
in which the question appears on the ballot".
Representative Paquette spoke to his amendment.
Representative Paquette moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4823. The motion prevailed 6-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Calley, Sheppard, Hornberger, Paquette, Guerra, Hope.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4823, but did not wish to speak:
Patti Tremblay, representing the MI Association of Intermediate School Administrators.
Jeff Cobb, representing the MI Association of School Boards.
Representative Paquette moved to refer House Bill No. 4823 as amended, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 6-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Calley, Sheppard, Hornberger, Paquette, Guerra, Hope.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4937 before the committee:
HB 4937
(Rep. Bollin)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 261, entitled" An
act to provide for the apportionment of county boards of
commissioners; to prescribe the size of the board; to provide
for appeals; to prescribe the manner of election of the
members of the county board of commissioners; to provide
for compensation of members; to prescribe penalties and
provide remedies; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending sections 10 and 12 (MCL 46.410 and 46.412),
section 12 as amended by 2013 PA 84.
HB 4937 (H-1) was adopted during the previous meeting on October 2nd, 2019.
Representative Hornberger moved to refer House Bill No. 4937 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 6-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Calley, Sheppard, Hornberger, Paquette, Guerra, Hope.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4938 before the committee:
HB 4938
(Rep. Lightner) A bill to amend 1966 PA 293, entitled" An
act to provide for the establishment of charter counties; to
provide for the election of charter commissioners; to
prescribe their powers and duties; to prohibit certain acts of a
county board of commissioners after the approval of the
election of a charter commission; to prescribe the mandatory
and permissive provisions of a charter; to provide for the
exercise by a charter county of certain powers whether or not
authorized by its charter; and to prescribe penalties and
provide remedies," by amending section 14 (MCL 45.514),
as amended by 2017 PA 210.
Representative Sheppard moved to refer House Bill No. 4938 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 6-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Calley, Sheppard, Hornberger, Paquette, Guerra, Hope.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4937 and HB 4938, but did not wish to
speak:
Elizabeth Hundley, representing Livingston County.
Joe Bridgman, representing Livingston County.
The Chair laid HB 5031 and HB 5032 before the committee:
HB 5031
(Rep. Bollin)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled"
Michigan election law," by amending section 662 (MCL
168.662), as amended by 2004 PA 92.
HB 5032
(Rep. Bollin)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled"
Michigan election law," by amending sections 658, 659, and
661 (MCL 168.658, 168.659, and 168.661), sections 658 and
661 as amended by 2012 PA 270 and section 659 as amended
by 2014 PA 94, and by adding section 759e.
Representative Bollin testified in support of HB 5031 and HB 5032.
Chris Swope and Kim Meltzer, representing the Council of Election Officials, testified in support
of HB 5031 and HB 5032.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5031 and HB 5032, but did
not wish to speak:
Jenita Moore, representing the Michigan Secretary of State.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5031 and HB 5032, but did not wish to
speak:
Joe Bridgman, representing Livingston County.
Elizabeth Hundley, representing Livingston County.
Merissa Kovach, representing the ACLU of Michigan, testified in opposition of HB 5032.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5031, but did not wish to speak:
Merissa Kovach, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Calley adjourned the meeting at
11:17 AM.
Representative Julie Calley, Chair
Amy Rostkowycz
Committee Clerk
arostkowycz@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, CHILDREN, AND SENIORS
REP. KATHY CRAWFORD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
9:00 a.m.
Room 308, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Families, Children, and Seniors was called to order by the
Chair.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Crawford, Rendon, Hoitenga, Meerman, Wozniak, Liberati, Brenda Carter,
Cynthia Johnson.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Garrett.
Representative Rendon moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 2, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HCR 2 before the committee:
HCR 2
(Rep. Vaupel)
A concurrent resolution to declare Adverse
Childhood Experiences (ACEs) a critical health issue,
commit the Legislature to action, and encourage the
Governor to direct agencies to assess and report progress on
reducing ACEs.
The following individuals submitted a testimony card in support of HCR 2, but did not wish to
speak:
Amy Zaagman, Executive Director for the Michigan Council for Maternal and Child
Health, and
Jared Burkhart, Executive Director of the Michigan Chapter of American Academy of
Pediatrics.
Representative Wozniak moved to report out HCR 2 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-0-1.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Crawford, Rendon, Meerman, Wozniak, Liberati, Brenda Carter, Cynthia
Johnson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Hoitenga.
The Chair laid HB 4082 before the committee:
HB 4082
(Rep. Rendon) A bill to amend 1973 PA 116, entitled “An
act to provide for the protection of children through the
licensing and regulation of child care organizations; to
provide for the establishment of standards of care for child
care organizations; to prescribe powers and duties of certain
departments of this state and adoption facilitators; to provide
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts,"(MCL 722.111
to 722.128) by adding section 3i.
The following individuals submitted a testimony card in support of HB 4082, but did not wish to
speak:
Amy Zaagman, Executive Director for the Michigan Council for Maternal and Child
Health, and
Jared Burkhart, Executive Director of the Michigan Chapter of American Academy of
Pediatrics.
Representative Rendon moved to refer HB 4082 to the committee on Ways and Means, with
recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 7-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Crawford, Rendon, Meerman, Wozniak, Liberati, Brenda Carter, Cynthia
Johnson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Hoitenga.
Representative Cynthia Johnson moved to excuse Representative Garrett from the meeting.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Carter moved to adjourn
the Committee. There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent. The
Chair adjourned the meeting at 9:05 a.m.
Representative Kathy Crawford, Chair
Joy Brewer
Committee Clerk
joybrewer@house.mi.gov


location: Room 307, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. DIANA FARRINGTON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Financial Services was called to order by Chair Farrington.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Schroeder moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 2, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5084 before the committee:
HB 5084
(Rep. Farrington)
A bill to amend 2009 PA 75, entitled
“Mortgage loan originator licensing act,” by amending
sections 3 and 5 (MCL 493.133 and 493.135), section 3 as
amended by 2012 PA 150 and section 5 as amended by 2014
PA 421, and by adding sections 5a and 5b.
Representative Gay-Dagnogo moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5084. The motion prevailed
10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo, Wittenberg,
Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Chairwoman Farrington testified in support of HB 5084.
Audrey Acquisti, representing the Michigan Mortgage Lenders Association, testified in support
of HB 5084.
Karin Gyger and Mark Weigold, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and
Financial Services, testified in support of HB 5084.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5084, but did not wish to speak:
Dave Worthams, representing the Michigan Bankers Association.
John Lindley, representing the Michigan Credit Union League.
Nicole Nystrom, representing the Quicken Loans.
At 12:16 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:32 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Schroeder moved to refer House Bill No. 5084 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4908 before the committee:
HB 4908
(Rep. Whitsett) A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled “State
housing development authority act of 1966,"by amending
section 32 (MCL 125.1432), as amended by 2012 PA 328.
Dave Worthams, representing Michigan Bankers Association, testified in support of HB 4908.
Micah Babcock, representing Small Business Association of Michigan, testified in support of HB
4908.
Mark Garcia, representing Michigan State Housing Authority, testified in support of HB 4908.
Representative Gay-Dagnogo moved to refer House Bill No. 4908 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Diana Farrington adjourned the
meeting at 12:34 AM.
Representative Diana Farrington, Chair
Sondra Gordon
Committee Clerk
sgordon@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. DIANA FARRINGTON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Financial Services was called to order by Chair Farrington.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Schroeder moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 2, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5084 before the committee:
HB 5084
(Rep. Farrington) A bill to amend 2009 PA 75, entitled “Mortgage loan
originator licensing act,” by amending sections 3 and 5
(MCL 493.133 and 493.135), section 3 as amended by 2012
PA 150 and section 5 as amended by 2014 PA 421, and by
adding sections 5a and 5b.
Representative Gay-Dagnogo moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5084. The motion prevailed
10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Chairwoman Farrington testified in support of HB 5084.
Audrey Acquisti, representing the Michigan Mortgage Lenders Association, testified in support
of HB 5084.
Karin Gyger and Mark Weigold, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and
Financial Services, testified in support of HB 5084.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5084, but did not wish to speak:
Dave Worthams, representing the Michigan Bankers Association.
John Lindley, representing the Michigan Credit Union League.
Nicole Nystrom, representing the Quicken Loans.
At 12:16 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:32 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Schroeder moved to refer House Bill No. 5084 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4908 before the committee:
HB 4908
(Rep. Whitsett)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled “State housing
development authority act of 1966,"by amending section 32
(MCL 125.1432), as amended by 2012 PA 328.
Dave Worthams, representing Michigan Bankers Association, testified in support of HB 4908.
Micah Babcock, representing Small Business Association of Michigan, testified in support of HB
4908.
Mark Garcia, representing Michigan State Housing Authority, testified in support of HB 4908.
Representative Gay-Dagnogo moved to refer House Bill No. 4908 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Farrington, Schroeder, Sheppard, Bellino, Berman, Wakeman, Gay-Dagnogo,
Wittenberg, Clemente, Stone, Whitsett.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Diana Farrington adjourned the
meeting at 12:34 AM.
Representative Diana Farrington, Chair
Sondra Gordon
Committee Clerk
sgordon@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JAMES LOWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to
order by Chair Lower.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Meerman, Paquette,
Ellison, Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Absent/Excused: None.
The Chair laid HB 4851 before the committee:
HB 4851
(Rep. Hoitenga) A bill to amend 1893 PA 206, entitled "The
general property tax act," by amending sections 7b and 53b
(MCL 211.7b and 211.53b), section 7b as amended by 2013
PA 161 and section 53b as amended by 2017 PA 261.
Representative Marino moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4851. The motion prevailed 13-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Meerman, Paquette, Ellison,
Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Marino moved to refer House Bill No. 4851 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lower, Marino, Crawford, Calley, Howell, Eisen, Meerman, Paquette, Ellison,
Sowerby, Garza, Hope, Kuppa.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4851 (H-1), but did not wish to speak:
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The Chair laid HB 4915 before the committee:
HB 4915
(Rep. Berman) A bill to establish liability and provide
remedies for damage resulting from falling trees or tree
branches.
Representative Berman and Dr. Lance Stokes, representing himself as a West Bloomfield
resident, testified in support of HB 4915. Questions and discussion followed.
Brian Westin, representing Michigan Realtors Association, testified with no position on HB
4915. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4915, but did not wish to speak:
Debra Huff, representing the Michigan Forest Association.
Dave Hodgkins, representing the City of Rochester Hills.
Scott Robbins, representing the Michigan Forest Products Council.
Patrick Williams, representing Canton Township.
Rusty Merchant, representing the Insurance Alliance of Michigan.
Representative Marino moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 2, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. James Lower adjourned the meeting
at 12:34 PM.
Representative James Lower, Chair
Angie Lake
Committee Clerk
alake@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. LYNN AFENDOULIS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Afendoulis.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Afendoulis, Lower, Vaupel, Webber, Farrington, Steven Johnson, Hall,
O'Malley, Schroeder, Yancey, Wittenberg, Ellison, Robinson, Whitsett.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Lasinski.
Representative Lower moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 2, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4922 before the committee:
HB 4922
(Rep. Johnson) A bill to repeal 1899 PA 188, entitled
"Michigan estate tax act," (MCL 205.201 to 205.256).
Representative Steven Johnson testified in support of HB 4922.
James Hohman, representing Mackinac Center for Public Policy, testified in support of HB 4922.
Questions and discussion followed.
Rachel Richards, representing Michigan Department of Treasury, testified in opposition of HB
4922. Questions and discussion followed.
Charles Owens, representing National Federation of Independent Businesses, testified in support
of HB 4922. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid HB 4171 before the committee:
HB 4171
(Rep. Alexander)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281,
entitled "Income tax act of 1967,"by amending section 30
(MCL 206.30), as amended by 2018 PA 589.
Representative Alexander, and Sue Macrellis, representing herself, testified in support of HB
4171. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4171, but did not wish to
speak:
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4171, but did not wish to speak:
Melissa Seifert, representing the American Association of Retired People.
Mary Pollock, representing the Michigan State Employee Retirees Association.
Donald Taylor, representing the Retired Detroit Police Officers and Fire Fighters
Association.
Representative Afendoulis moved to excuse Representative Lasinski from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Lynn Afendoulis adjourned the
meeting at 10:54 AM.
Representative Lynn Afendoulis, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov


location: Room 519, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
REP. BRANDT IDEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 16, 2019
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Ways and Means was called to order by Chair Iden.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Wentworth, Warren, Byrd,
Neeley, Hertel.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Warren moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 15, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Hertel introduced his guest, William Hertel, to the committee.
The Chair laid HB 4208 before the committee:
HB 4208
(Rep. Johnson) A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code, "by amending section 1249 (MCL
380.1249), as amended by 2018 PA 235.
Representative Johnson testified in support of HB 4208.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4208, but did not wish to speak:
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals.
The Chair laid HB 4335 before the committee:
HB 4335
(Rep. Yaroch)
A bill to amend 1980 PA 299, entitled
"Occupational code, "by amending sections 1110 and 1205
(MCL 339.1110 and 339.1205), section 1110 as amended by
2014 PA 137 and section 1205 as amended by 1997 PA 97.
Representative Yaroch and Sam Boumis testified in support of HB 4335.
Scott Weaver representing Douglas J. Aveda, testified in support of HB 4335.
At 10:53 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:54 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4335. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Wentworth, Warren, Byrd,
Neeley, Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 4335 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Wentworth, Warren, Byrd,
Neeley, Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Brandt Iden adjourned the meeting at
10:55 AM.
Representative Brandt Iden, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. ARIC NESBITT, VICE CHAIR
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. BETTY JEAN ALEXANDER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE
SENATOR JIM RUNESTAD
CHAIR
7500 BINSFELD BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1758
FAX: (517) 373-0938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance was scheduled for Wednesday, October 16, 2019, at 12:30 p.m.,
in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Building.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4069 (Rep. Kahle) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Reported HB 4465 (Rep. Rabhi) with recommendation and immediate effect.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:31 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Runestad, Sen.(s) Nesbitt, Daley, Bumstead, VanderWall, Chang and
Alexander, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Nesbitt to adopt the meeting minutes from September 5, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized HB 4069 (Rep. Kahle) and HB 4465 (Rep. Rabhi).
The following cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4069 and HB
4465:
Amy Taylor, Michigan Realtors – support
Dave Worthams, Michigan Bankers Association – support
Alia Phillips, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – support
Charlotte Jameson, Michigan Environmental Council – support
Steve Murphy, Power Home Solar – support
Laura Sherman, Michigan Energy Innovation Business Council – support
Paul Connors, Michigan Treasury – support
Ed Rivet, Michigan Conservation Energy Forum - support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Daley to report HB 4069 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Runestad, Sen.(s) Nesbitt, Daley, Bumstead, VanderWall, Chang and Alexander
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4069. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report HB 4465 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Runestad, Sen.(s) Nesbitt, Daley, Bumstead, VanderWall, Chang and Alexander
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4465. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the meeting. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:35 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 10/30/2019


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ED MCBROOM
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. RICK OUTMAN
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARSHALL BULLOCK
SEN. ADAM J. HOLLIER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE
SENATOR TOM BARRETT
CHAIR
3200 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-3447
FAX: (517) 373-5849
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was scheduled for Wednesday, October
16, 2019, at 12:30 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4731 (Rep. Yaroch) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Reported HB 4485 (S-1) (Rep. Glenn) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3. Reported SB 527 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation and immediate effect.
4. Testimony regarding SB 515 (Sen. Barrett).
5. Testimony regarding SB 518 (Sen. Runestad).
6. Testimony regarding SB 519 (Sen. MacDonald).
7. Testimony regarding SB 524 (Sen. LaSata).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:31 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Barrett, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom, Victory, Outman, Lauwers, Geiss,
Bullock, and Hollier, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to adopt the meeting minutes from September 4, 2019.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized HB 4731.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4731:
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – Neutral
The Chair made a motion to report HB 4731 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as
follows:
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Yeas: Chair Barrett, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom, Victory, Outman, Lauwers, Geiss, Bullock, and Hollier
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 4731. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair summarized HB 4485 and offered an (S-1) version to the bill.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4485:
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – Neutral
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. LaSata to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4485. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Barrett, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom, Victory, Outman, Lauwers, Geiss, Bullock, and Hollier
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. LaSata to report the (S-1) version of HB 4485 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Barrett, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom, Victory, Outman, Lauwers, Geiss, Bullock, and Hollier
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 4485 (S-1). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
The Chair invited Sen. Victory to summarize SB 527.
Sen. Victory offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version to SB 527.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 527:
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – Neutral
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 527. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Barrett, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom, Victory, Outman, Lauwers, Geiss, Bullock, and Hollier
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to report the (S-1) version of SB 527 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Barrett, Sen.(s) LaSata, McBroom, Victory, Outman, Lauwers, Geiss, Bullock, and Hollier
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 527 (S-1). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
The Chair summarized SB 515.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 515:
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Oppose
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – No Position
The Chair invited Sen.(s) Runestad and MacDonald to summarize SB 518 and SB 519.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 518 and SB 519:
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
The Chair invited Sen. LaSata to summarize SB 524.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 524:
Lance Binoniemi, Michigan Infrastructure and Transportation Association – Oppose
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 524, SB 518 and SB 519:
Monica Ackerson, Michigan Road Preservation Association – Oppose
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 515, SB
518 and SB 519:
Jonathan Byrd, Michigan Laborers Union – Oppose
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 518 and
SB 519:
Ryan Sebolt, Michigan AFL-CIO – Oppose
Steve Claywell, Michigan State Building Trades – Oppose
Lisa Canada, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters – Oppose
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Ben Lyons, Eaton County Road Commission – Oppose
Dave Pawloski, Kalamazoo County Road Commission – Oppose
Randy Pierce, Monroe County Road Commission – Oppose
Michael Spence, Southeast Michigan Council of Governments – Support
Dennis Kolar, Road Commission for Oakland County – Support
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Nic Clark, Operating Engineers Local 324 – Oppose
Tim Greimel, AFSCME Council 25 – Oppose
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 524:
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – No Position
Dennis Kolar, Road Commission for Oakland County – Oppose
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Oppose
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:41 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 23, 2019
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN BIZON, M.D., MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA
SEN. MICHAEL D. MACDONALD
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. WINNIE BRINKS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. CURTIS HERTEL, JR.
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY AND
HUMAN SERVICES
SENATOR CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
CHAIR
4500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1725
FAX: (517) 373-0741
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy and Human Services was scheduled for Wednesday,
October 16, 2019, at 2:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4325 (Rep. Miller) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:01 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, Johnson, LaSata, MacDonald, Theis,
Brinks, Hertel, Santana, and Wojno, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bizon to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Rep. Miller to summarize HB 4325.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4325:
Dr. Sara Sue Schaeffer and Dr. Irene Ametrano, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association –
Support
Tim Greimel, AFSCME Council 25 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4325:
Justin Fisher, Michigan Psychiatric Society – Oppose
Due to time constraints, the following cards were not read in regarding HB 4325:
Marina Wyrzykowski, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services – Support
Nicholas Erber-LaPierre, Profession of Counseling – Support
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Mark Docherty, Michigan Professional Fire Fighters Union – Support
David Newman, Michigan Primary Care Association – Support
Renee Edmonson, School-Community Health Alliance of Michigan – Support
Mark Sutton, American Legion Department of Michigan – Support
Autumn Gillard, Trinity Health – Support
Sam Champagne, Henry Ford Health System – Support
Paige Fults, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
John McNamara, McLaren Health Care – Support
Gerald Papazian, LPC's Northern Michigan – Support
Brenda Leiniger, LLPC – Support
Todd Leibert, Oakland University Department of Counseling – Support
Lyanna Leibert, LPC – Support
Ricaard Liesice, Alright Counsling PLLC – Support
Elizabeth Peterson, LLPC's – Support
Denise Weber, LPC's – Support
Clerlada Eure-Harris, Counselors – LPC's – Support
Dawn Streeter, LLPC's – Support
Greg Dudzinski, LPC's – Support
Amber Somerville, Michigan Citizens – Support
Monica Michael, Private Practice – Support
Wendy Croll, Access – Support
Sarah Baker, Vita Counseling Services – Support
Carolynn Doughesty, Citizen – Support
Kathryn Iferse, Counselors, LPC's, WCA – Support
Amy Willis, Citizen – Support
Napoleon Harrington, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Brad and Christine Przystas, Citizens – Support
Carol Berger, LPC's – Support
Meshia Schultz, LPC – Support
Frederick Hagon, Citizen - Support
Amelia Hasenohl, Citizen – Support
Erika VanPoppel, LPC – Support
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Leah Gwinner, LPC's – Support
Keila Kilgore, Art of Creative Dimensions Inc. – Support
Gayle Seely Gambill, Gayle Seely Counseling – Support
Caroline Ray, Citizen – Support
Amelia Hasenohrl, LPC's – Support
Barbara Blundo, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
James Blundo, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Jeanine Madsen, Peak Therapy – Support
Allison Woodfield, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Samantha Darrow, Citizen – Support
Marie McCallan, Citizen – Support
Stephanie Kastely, Wayne State University Suicide Prevention Initiative – Support
Jeff Zapor, Citizen – Support
Thomas Grden, Citizen – Support
Cindy Goldman, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Dr. Donald Amidon, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Daniel Cruikshanks, Aquinas College – Support
Stephanie Burns, Western Michigan University – Support
Judy Williams, Michigan School Counselor Association – Support
Alegeria Wilson, National Association of Social Workers – Support
Tianna Hoppe-Rooney, LPC's – Support
Karen Bailey, LPC's – Support
Sharon Rudy, LPC's – Support
Eileen Craig, LPC's – Support
Halene Waytes, LPC's – Support
Tara Freni, LPC's – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report HB 4325 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, Johnson, LaSata, MacDonald, Theis, Brinks, Hertel, Santana,
and Wojno
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 4325. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:21 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 17, 2019
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MEMBERS:
SEN. DAN LAUWERS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA
SEN. ARIC NESBITT
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
SEN. TOM BARRETT
SEN. KEN HORN
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARSHALL BULLOCK
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND
BANKING
SENATOR LANA THEIS
CHAIR
7400 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2420
FAX: (517) 373-2764
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Insurance and Banking was scheduled for Wednesday, October 16,
2019, at 8:30 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4044 (Rep. Hoitenga).
2. Testimony regarding SB 172 (Sen. Stamas).
3. Adopted (S-1) Substitute to SB 415 (Sen. Nesbitt).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:33 a.m. He instructed the clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Theis, Sens. Lauwers, LaSata, Nesbitt, Barrett, Horn, Geiss, Bullock
and McMorrow, a quorum was present.
At 8:34 a.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 8:36 a.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Horn to adopt the meeting minutes from June 19, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB
4044:
Ryan Burtka, Michigan Association of Health Underwriters – Neutral
Robert Kosowski, Michigan Association of Insurance Agents – Neutral
Tricia Kinley, Insurance Association of Michigan – Neutral
Karin Gyger, Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services – Neutral
Marcia Hune, Life Insurance Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 172:
Jeff Junkas, American Property Casualty Insurance Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 172:
Mark Ashley, Delta Dental – Support
Tim Ward, State Farm Insurance – Support
Tricia Kinley, Insurance Association of Michigan – Support
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Marcia Hune, Life Insurance Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 415:
Kristina Araya, Comdata Inc. – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 415:
David Worthams, Michigan Bankers Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lauwers to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 415. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Theis, Sens. Lauwers, LaSata, Nesbitt, Barrett, Horn, Geiss, Bullock, McMorrow.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Daley was
excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 8:52 a.m.
Date approved: 10/23/19
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD, VICE CHAIR
SEN. RICK OUTMAN
SEN. WAYNE SCHMIDT
SEN. SEAN MCCANN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
SENATOR ED MCBROOM
CHAIR
7200 BINSFELD BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7840
FAX: (517) 373-3932
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Natural Resources was scheduled for Wednesday, October 16, 2019, at
8:30 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Building.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4018 (Rep. Allor).
2. Testimony regarding HB 105 (Rep. VanderWall).
__________________________________________________________________________________________
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:32 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chairman McBroom, Sen.(s) Bumstead, Outman, Schmidt, and McCann, a
quorum was present.
The Chair invited the committee to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
The Chair entertained a motion from Sen. Bumstead to adopt the committee meeting minutes from June 19, 2019.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Rep. Allor to summarize HB 4018. Member questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4018:

Craig Brunet, Michigan Department of Natural Resources - support. Member questions followed.

Seth Herbst, Michigan Department of Natural Resources Fisheries – support. Member questions
followed.

Brenda Archambo, Sturgeon for Tomorrow – support. Member questions followed.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4018:

Gil Archambo, Citizen – support.

Nick Occhipinti, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – support.
Next on the agenda was SB 105 (Sen. VanderWall).
The Chair invited Sen. VanderWall to summarize SB 105. Member questions followed.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB 105:

Nick Occhipinti, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – oppose.

Sarah Howes, Environment, Great Lakes and Energy – oppose, working with sponsor.

Sean Hammond, Michigan Environmental Council – oppose.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:10 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/26/2020


location: Room 326, House Office Building

evidence_text:
The Joint Committee on Administrative Rules submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, at 3:30 p.m., Room 326, House Office Building

Present: Senators Lucido , McBroom, Theis , Hollier and Irwin

Scheduled Meetings

Advice and Consent - Wednesday, October 23, 3:30 p.m. and Thursday, October 24, 12:00 noon, Room 1300 , Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5312

Families, Seniors, and Veterans - Wednesday, October 23, 3:00 p.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-1721

Michigan Law Revision Commission - Wednesday, October 23, 11:30 a.m., Legislative Council Conference Room, 3rd Floor, Boji Tower (517) 373-0212

Senator MacGregor moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 10:24 a.m.

The President, Lieutenant Governor Gilchrist, declared the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, October 22, 2019, at 10:00 a.m.

MARGARET O’BRIEN

Secretary of the Senate


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE AND TOURISM
REP. STEVE MARINO
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 17, 2019
9:00 a.m.
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Commerce and Tourism was called to order by the Chair.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Marino, Wendzel, Reilly, Meerman, Schroeder, Wakeman, Cambensy,
Camilleri, Manoogian, Robinson.
Absent/Excused: Rep. Hope.
Representative Cambensy moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4835, HB 4836, HB 4837 and HB 4838 before the committee:
HB 4835
(Rep. Brann)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled
“Michigan strategic fund act,” (MCL 125.2001 to 125.2094)
by adding chapter 7A.
HB 4836
(Rep. Farrington)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270,
entitled “Michigan strategic fund act,” (MCL 125.2001 to
125.2094) by adding section 15.
HB 4837
(Rep. Leutheuser)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 431,
entitled “The management and budget act,” (MCL 18.1101 to
18.1594) by adding section 449.
HB 4838
(Rep. Lasinski) A bill to create certain offices in the
executive branch; and to impose certain duties and
responsibilities on certain offices and officers and on certain
state employees and public employees.
Representative Tommy Brann and Representative Donna Lasinski, the bill sponsors, explained
HB 4835, HB 4836, HB 4837 and HB 4838. Questions and discussion followed.
Micah Babcock, Director of Government Operations for the Small Business Association of
Michigan (SBAM), and David C. Rhoa, President of Marana Group, testified in support of HB
4835, HB 4836, HB 4837 and HB 4838. Questions and discussion followed. A copy of Mr.
Babcock’s written testimony is attached.
Charles S. Owens, Michigan State Director for the National Federation of Independent Business,
testified in support of HB 4835, HB 4836, HB 4837 and HB 4838. Questions and discussion
followed. A copy of his handout is attached.
The following individuals submitted a testimony card in support of HB 4835, HB 4836, HB 4837
and HB 4838, but did not wish to speak:
Steven D. Japinga, Vice President of Public Affairs Department for the Lansing Regional
Chamber of Commerce, and
Brad Williams, Vice President of Government Relations for the Detroit Regional
Chamber.
Alexa Kramer, Director of Government Affairs for Grand Rapids Chamber, submitted a
testimony card in opposition to HB 4835, HB 4836, HB 4837 and HB 4838, but did not wish to
speak, and submitted written testimony, which is attached.
At 10:21 a.m., the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 1:00 p.m., the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Cambensy moved to excuse Representative Hope from the meeting. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Wakeman moved to
adjourn the Committee. There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair adjourned the meeting at 1:01 p.m.
Representative Steve Marino, Chair
Joy Brewer
Committee Clerk
joybrewer@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. HANK VAUPEL
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 17, 2019
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Vaupel.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Vaupel, Frederick, Alexander, Calley, Hornberger, Lower, Whiteford,
Afendoulis, Filler, Mueller, Wozniak, Liberati, Garrett, Clemente, Ellison, Koleszar,
Pohutsky, Stone, Witwer.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Lower moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4958 and HB 5043 before the committee:
HB 4958
(Rep. Hornberger)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368,
entitled “Public health code,"(MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211)
by adding section 16279.
HB 5043
(Rep. Vaupel)
A bill to amend 1974 PA 258, entitled
“Mental health code,” by amending sections 100b and 772
(MCL 330.1100b and 330.1772), section 100b as amended
by 2014 PA 200 and section 772 as added by 1995 PA 290,
and by adding section 206a; and to repeal acts and parts of
acts.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4958, but did not wish to speak:
Sean Sorenson-Abbott, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University of Women.
Representative Hornberger moved to refer House Bill No. 4958 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Vaupel, Frederick, Alexander, Calley, Hornberger, Lower, Whiteford,
Afendoulis, Filler, Mueller, Wozniak, Liberati, Garrett, Clemente, Ellison, Koleszar,
Pohutsky, Stone, Witwer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5043, but did not wish to speak:
Justin Fisher, representing the Michigan Psychiatric Society.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5043 and HB 5044, but did not wish to
speak:
Jared Burkhart, representing the Michigan Chapter of American Academy of Pediatrics.
Representative Frederick moved to refer House Bill No. 5043 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Vaupel, Frederick, Alexander, Calley, Hornberger, Lower, Whiteford,
Afendoulis, Filler, Mueller, Wozniak, Liberati, Garrett, Clemente, Ellison, Koleszar,
Pohutsky, Stone, Witwer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5044 before the committee:
HB 5044
(Rep. Garrett)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 203, entitled
“Foster care and adoption services act,” by amending section
4c (MCL 722.954c), as amended by 2014 PA 337.
Representative Garrett moved to refer House Bill No. 5044 to the committee on Ways and
Means. The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Vaupel, Frederick, Alexander, Calley, Hornberger, Lower, Whiteford,
Afendoulis, Filler, Mueller, Wozniak, Liberati, Garrett, Clemente, Ellison, Koleszar,
Pohutsky, Stone, Witwer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991 before the committee:
HB 4459
(Rep. Hauck)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled
“Public health code,"(MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding article 18.
HB 4460
(Rep. Liberati) A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled
“Public health code,"(MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 24505 to article 18.
HB 4990
(Rep. Hauck)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled
“Public health code,” by amending section 16221 (MCL
333.16221), as amended by 2018 PA 463.
HB 4991
(Rep. Liberati) A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled
“Public health code,” by amending section 16226 (MCL
333.16226), as amended by 2018 PA 463.
Representative Frederick moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4459. The motion prevailed 19-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Vaupel, Frederick, Alexander, Calley, Hornberger, Lower, Whiteford,
Afendoulis, Filler, Mueller, Wozniak, Liberati, Garrett, Clemente, Ellison, Koleszar,
Pohutsky, Stone, Witwer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Liberati moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4460. The motion prevailed 19-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Vaupel, Frederick, Alexander, Calley, Hornberger, Lower, Whiteford,
Afendoulis, Filler, Mueller, Wozniak, Liberati, Garrett, Clemente, Ellison, Koleszar,
Pohutsky, Stone, Witwer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hauck and Representative Liberati, testified in support of HB 4459, HB 4460,
HB 4990 and HB 4991.
Karin Gyger, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services,
testified with no position on HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991.
Cathy Cooper, representing the Michigan Association of Health Underwriters, testified in support
of HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991.
Kristen Nohner, Dr. Tom Veverka, Dr. Chris Abood and Dr. Courtney Abernathy, representing
Michigan State Medical Society, testified in opposition to HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB
4991.
Christine Shearer and Jeff Romback, representing Michigan Association of Health Plans,
testified in support of HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991.
Bret Jackson, representing Economic Alliance for Michigan, testified in support of HB 4459, HB
4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991.
Tom George, representing himself, testified in opposition to HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and
HB 4991.
Dr. Jim Richard, representing Michigan Society of Pathologists, testified in opposition of HB
4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB 4991,
but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Gabe Basso, representing the Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4459, HB 4460, HB 4990 and HB
4991, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Dr. Warren Lanpheor, representing Michigan College of Emergency-Physicians.
Diana Nordlund, representing Michigan College Emergency-Physicians.
Rami Khoury, representing Michigan College Emergency-Physicians.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4459 and HB 4460, but did
not wish to speak:
Jason MacDonald, representing the Mobile Medical Response.
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Carl Alden, representing the Michigan Association of Chiropractors.
Angela Madden, representing the Michigan Association of Ambulance Services.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4459 and HB 4460, but did not wish to
speak:
Frank Venuto, representing the United Health Care Group.
Delaney McKinley, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Mary Haffenbredl, representing Americas Health Insurance Plans.
Dawn Giggelt, representing Michigan Complete Health.
Larry Lewis Jr., representing AETNA.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4459 and HB 4460, but did not wish
to speak:
Rob Keller, representing Kalamazoo Anesthesiology.
Gabriele Szlenkier, representing the Washtenaw County Medical Society.
Tom George, representing the Michigan State Medical Society.
Dave Hall, representing the Emergency Department Practice Management Association.
Brad Uren, representing the American College of Emergency Physicians.
Mark Weiss, representing the Michigan Radiological Society.
Kevin McKinney, representing the Michigan Osteopathic Association.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Hank Vaupel adjourned the meeting
at 11:58 AM.
Representative Hank Vaupel, Chair
Sondra Gordon
Committee Clerk
sgordon@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. JIM ANANICH, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
SENATOR KEVIN DALEY
CHAIR
5200 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1777
FAX: (517) 373-5871
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 17, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Agriculture was scheduled for Thursday, October 17, 2019, at 8:30
a.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 174 (S-2) (Sen. Daley) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Reported SB 179 (Sen. Victory) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3. Reported SB 180 (Sen. Lauwers) with recommendation and immediate effect.
4. Reported SB 181 (S-1) (Sen. Lauwers) with recommendation and immediate effect.
5. Reported SB 182 (S-1) (Sen. McBroom) with recommendation and immediate effect.
6. Reported SB 183 (Sen. McBroom) with recommendation and immediate effect.
7. Reported SB 361 (Sen. Ananich) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. He instructed the clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich and Polehanki, a quorum
was present.
The Chair made a motion to adopt the meeting minutes from August 13, 2019. Without objection, the
minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 174:
Rebecca Park, Michigan Farm Bureau – Support
Molly Tamulevich, Humane Society of the United States & ASPCA – Opposed
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 174:
Bee Friedlander, Attorneys for Animals – Opposed
Mary Kelpinski, Michigan Pork Producers Association – Neutral
Nathan Kark, Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural Development – Neutral
Allison Brink, Michigan Allied Poultry – Support
Jim Byrum, Michigan AgriBusiness Association – Support
The Chair offered an (S-2) version of SB 174.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Ananich to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 174. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to report the (S-2) version of SB 174 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers.
Nays: Sen. Polehanki.
Pass: Sen. Ananich.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 174 (S-2). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to report SB 179 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 179. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Ananich to report SB 180 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 180. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lauwers to report the (S-1) version of SB 181 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 181 (S-1). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to report the (S-1) version of SB 182 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 182 (S-2). Without objection, immediate
effect was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lauwers to report SB 183 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 183. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to report SB 361 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Daley, Sen.(s) Victory, Lauwers, Ananich, Polehanki.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 361. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 8:39 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 31, 2019
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN BIZON, M.D., MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA
SEN. MICHAEL D. MACDONALD
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. WINNIE BRINKS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. CURTIS HERTEL, JR.
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY AND
HUMAN SERVICES
SENATOR CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
CHAIR
4500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1725
FAX: (517) 373-0741
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 17, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy and Human Services was scheduled for Thursday, October
17, 2019, at 1:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4710 (Rep. Kahle).
2. Reported HB 4223 (Rep. VanSingel) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3. Testimony regarding HB 4451 (Rep. Calley).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, Johnson, LaSata, MacDonald, Theis,
Brinks, Hertel, and Santana, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bizon to adopt the meeting minutes from October 16, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Tara Rodriguez, of Rep. Kahle's office, to answer questions regarding HB 4710.
At 1:07 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 1:09 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bizon to report HB 4223 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, LaSata, MacDonald, Brinks, Hertel, and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Johnson and Theis
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 4223. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair invited Meghan Mott, of Rep. Calley's office, to summarize HB 4451.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4451:
Dr. Theresa Cooney, The Michigan Society of Eye Physicians and Surgeons – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4451:
Jeff Towns, Michigan Optometric Association – Support
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Wojno was
excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:22 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 24, 2019
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MEMBERS:
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PETER MACGREGOR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. WAYNE A. SCHMIDT
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND SMALL
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR KEN HORN
CHAIR
7100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1760
FAX: (517) 373-3487
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 17, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Small Business Development was scheduled for
Thursday, October 17, 2019, at 12:00 noon, in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 492 (Sen. Horn).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:01 p.m. He instructed the clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Horn, Sens. VanderWall, MacGregor, Theis, Lauwers, Schmidt,
McMorrow, Geiss and Moss, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2019.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 492:
Jeff Mason, MEDC – Neutral
Phil Santel, Ann Arbor Spark – Support
Brad Comment and Therese Thill, The Right Place, Inc. – Support
Tony Daunt, Michigan Freedom Fund – Opposed
Michael LaFave, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposed
Tyler Rossmaessler, Flint and Genesee Chamber of Commerce – Support
Tim Sowton, Business Leaders for Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 492:
John Mozena, Center for Economic Accountability – Opposed
Tim Greimel, AFSCME Council 25 – Opposed
David Guenthner, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposed
Jim Barrett – Opposed
Annie Patnude, Americans for Prosperity – Opposed
David Coulter, Oakland Co. Executive – Support
Dave Blaszkiewicz, Invest Detroit – Support
Doug Needham, Michigan Aggregates Association – Support
Jim Van Doren, Lenawee Now – Support
Joe Sobieralski, Battle Creek Unlimited – Support
Marty Fittante, Invest U.P. – Support
Rob Cleveland, Cornerstone Alliance – Support
Brad Williams, Detroit Regional Chamber – Support
Jason Puscas, MICHAuto – Support
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Bob Trezise, LEAP – Support
Amy Clickner, Lake Superior Community Partnership – Support
Diane Middleton, Midland Business Associates – Support
Tim Lake, Monroe Co. Business Development Corporation – Support
Fay Beydoun, American Arab Chamber of Commerce – Support
Jim Greene, Associated Builders and Contractors – Support
Jason Blanks, Southfield Area Chamber of Commerce – Support
Mindy Bradish-Orta, Jackson Chamber of Commerce – Support
JoAnn Crary, Saginaw Future – Support
Jennifer Owens, Lakeshore Advantage – Support
Taia Tomcsik-Husak, Troy Chamber of Commerce – Support
Steve Japinga, Lansing Regional Chamber of Commerce – Support
John Walsh, Downtown Detroit Partnership – Support
Pat Devin, Michigan Building and Construction Trades Council – Support
Mark Vanderpool, City of Sterling Heights – Support
Luke Bonner, Bonner Advisory Group – Support
Andy Johnston, Grand Rapids Area Chamber of Commerce – Support
Ron Kitchens, Southwest Michigan First – Support
Dawn Crandall, Home Builders Association of Michigan – Support
Tim Ward, Building Owners and Managers Association – Support
Dave Worthams, Michigan Bankers Association – Support
Chris Iannuzzi, Consumers Energy – Support
Lance Binonierri, MITA – Support
Peter Ruddell, Michigan Works – Support
Jen Rigterink, MML – Support
Delaney McKinley, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Support
Madison Clements, Bay Area and Saginaw County Chamber of Commerce – Support
Jon Cool, Michigan Railroads Association – Support
Mayor Rosalynn Bliss, City of Grand Rapids – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:01 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: November 7, 2019
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
REP. PAMELA HORNBERGER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 22, 2019
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Education was called to order by Chair Hornberger.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hornberger, Paquette, Crawford, Vaupel, Reilly, Hall, Markkanen, O'Malley,
Wakeman, Camilleri, Sowerby, Brenda Carter, Tyrone Carter, Koleszar, Stone.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Crawford moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 8, 2019. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4989 before the committee:
HB 4989
(Rep. Bellino)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section 705 (MCL
380.705), as amended by 2018 PA 23.
Representative Bellino testified in support of HB 4989. Questions and discussion followed.
Kathy Merry, representing Wayne County Regional Educational Service Agency, testified in
support of HB 4989. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4989, but did not wish to speak:
Jerry Johnson, representing the Calhoun County Intermediate School District.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents.
The Chair laid HB 4974 before the committee:
HB 4974
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451,
entitled "The revised school code, "by amending section
1278a (MCL 380.1278a), as amended by 2018 PA 232.
Representative VanWoerkom testified in support of HB 4974. Questions and discussion
followed.
Kyle Fiebig, representing Muskegon Area Career Tech Center, testified in support of HB 4974.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4974, but did not wish to speak:
Delaney McKinley, representing the Michigan Manufacturing Association.
Chris Glass, representing the West Michigan Talent Triangle.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Pamela Hornberger adjourned the
meeting at 9:19 AM.
Representative Pamela Hornberger, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. GRAHAM FILLER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 22, 2019
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Filler.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Filler, LaFave, Farrington, Howell, Steven Johnson, Rendon, Berman,
Wozniak, LaGrand, Guerra, Elder, Yancey, Bolden.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative LaFave moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 15, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4700 before the committee:
HB 4700
(Rep. Whiteford)
A bill to amend 1953 PA 232,
entitled “Corrections code of 1953," (MCL 791.201 to
791.285) by adding section 34e.
Representative Whiteford testified in support of HB 4700.
Kyle Kaminski representing Michigan Department of Corrections, testified with a neutral
position on HB 4700.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4700, but did not wish to speak:
Sam Champagne, representing the Henry Ford Health System.
Mark McWilliams, representing the Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service.
Kimberly Buddin, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.
The Chair laid SB 110 before the committee:
SB 110
(Sen. Lucido)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled
“Estates and protected individuals code,” by amending
section 5306 (MCL 700.5306), as amended by 2004 PA 532.
Senator Lucido testified in support of SB 110. Questions and discussion followed.
Victoria McCasey, Tom Howe and Jody White, all representing themselves, testified in
opposition to SB 110.
Paula Fitzsimons, representing herself, testified in opposition to SB 110.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 110, but did not wish to speak:
James R. Ryan, representing the Michigan Probate Judges Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 110, but did not wish to speak:
Alison Hirschel, representing the Michigan Elder Justice Initiative.
The Chair laid HB 5117 and HB 5118 before the committee:
HB 5117
(Rep. Bolden)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled
“Revised judicature act of 1961,” by amending sections 6431
and 6452 (MCL 600.6431 and 600.6452).
HB 5118
(Rep. Calley)
A bill to amend 2016 PA 343, entitled
“Wrongful imprisonment compensation act,” by amending
section 7 (MCL 691.1757).
Representative Bolden, Representative Calley, David Knezek and John Pallas, both representing
Attorney General Dana Nessel, testified in support of HB 5117 and HB 5118. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5117 and HB 5118, but did not wish to
speak:
Peter Cunningham, representing the State Bar of Michigan.
Morgan Richardson, representing the University of Michigan Innocence Clinic.
Noah Smith, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan.
John Cooper, representing Safe and Just Michigan.
Marla Mitchell, representing the Cooley Innocence Project.
Kimberly Buddin, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4329 before the committee:
HB 4329
(Rep. Vaupel)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled
“Revised judicature act of 1961,” by amending section 2543
(MCL 600.2543), as amended by 2004 PA 328.
Representative Vaupel, Sandra Traskos, representing Michigan Court Reporters, and Jacqueline
Reed, representing Michigan Electronic Court Reporters, testified together in support of HB
4329.
Amy Shankleton-Novess, representing the Michigan Electronic Court Reporters Association,
testified in support of HB 4329.
Teresa Kozlowski, representing herself and other court reporters, testified in support of HB 4329.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4329, but did not wish to speak:
Lisa Beam, representing Michigan Court Reporters.
Deborah Weatherup, representing Michigan Court Reporters.
Linda Bacon, representing Theresa's Transcription Service.
Rebecca Quarry, representing the herself.
Genevieve Hamlin, representing the Court Reporters - Officials.
Roana Smith, representing the Theresa's Transcription Service.
Theresa Stevens, representing the Theresa's Transcription Service.
Meghann Keit, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4329, but did not wish to speak:
Bill Flory, representing the Michigan Association for Justice.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Graham Filler adjourned the meeting
at 10:27 AM.
Representative Graham Filler, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON MILITARY, VETERANS AND HOMELAND SECURITY
REP. BEAU M LAFAVE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 22, 2019
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Military, Veterans and Homeland Security was called to
order by Chair LaFave.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, Chirkun, Tyrone
Carter, Manoogian.
Absent/Excused: None.
At 12:01 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:02 PM, Majority Vice Chair Mueller called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 5038, HB 5039, HB 5040, HB 5041 and HB 5042 before the committee:
HB 5038
(Rep. O'Malley)A bill to amend 1990 PA 187, entitled "The
pupil transportation act," by amending section 59 (MCL
257.1859), as amended by 1996 PA 170.
HB 5039
(Rep. Rendon) A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The
code of criminal procedure," by amending section 12j of
chapter XVII (MCL 777.12j), as added by 2002 PA 34.
HB 5040
(Rep. Jones)
A bill to amend 1990 PA 187, entitled "The
pupil transportation act," by amending section 33 (MCL
257.1833), as amended by 2018 PA 422.
HB 5041
(Rep. Carter)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled
"Michigan vehicle code," by amending section 682 (MCL
257.682), as amended by 2012 PA 263.
HB 5042
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 1990 PA 187,
entitled "The pupil transportation act, "(MCL 257.1801 to
257.1877) by adding section 20.
Representatives Jones, O'Malley, T. Carter, and VanWoerkom introduced the bills.
Trina Morris testified in support of HB 5038, HB 5039, HB 5040, HB 5041 and HB 5042.
Sheriff Cole, representing the Mason County Sheriff's Office, testified in support of HB 5038,
HB 5039, HB 5040, HB 5041 and HB 5042.
At 12:18 PM, Majority Vice Chair Mueller laid the committee at ease.
At 12:19 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Chirkun moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 15, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
At 12:20 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:21 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Fred Doelker, representing Dean Transportation, testified in support of HB 5038, HB 5039, HB
5040, HB 5041 and HB 5042.
Dave Meeuwsen, representing Zeeland Public Schools, testified in support of HB 5038, HB
5039, HB 5040, HB 5041 and HB 5042.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5038, HB 5039, HB 5040, HB 5041 and
HB 5042, but did not wish to speak:
Elizabeth Reimink, representing the Mason County Emergency Management.
Howard Dashney, representing the Michigan Association for Pupil Transportation.
Sergeant Nicole McGhee, representing the Michigan State Police.
The Chair laid HB 4770, HB 4771, HB 4772, HB 4773 and HB 4774 before the committee:
HB 4770
(Rep. Johnson) A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending sections 231 and 237a
(MCL 750.231 and 750.237a), as amended by 2017 PA 96;
and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
HB 4771
(Rep. Reilly)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An
act to regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms, gas ejecting
devices, and electro-muscular disruption devices; to prohibit
the buying, selling, or carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular disruption devices
without a license or other authorization; to provide for the
forfeiture of firearms and electro-muscular disruption
devices under certain circumstances; to provide for penalties
and remedies; to provide immunity from civil liability under
certain circumstances; to prescribe the powers and duties of
certain state and local agencies; to prohibit certain conduct
against individuals who apply for or receive a license to
carry a concealed pistol; to make appropriations; to prescribe
certain conditions for the appropriations; and to repeal all
acts and parts of acts inconsistent with this act," by
amending sections 2, 2a, 5b, 5o, 12, and 15 (MCL 28.422,
28.422a, 28.425b, 28.425o, 28.432, and 28.435), section 2 as
amended by 2015 PA 200, section 2a as amended by 2016
PA 301, sections 5b and 5o as amended by 2017 PA 95,
section 12 as amended by 2010 PA 209, and section 15 as
added by 2000 PA 265.
HB 4772
(Rep. Hoitenga) A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled
"Natural resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 43510 (MCL 324.43510), as amended by
2013 PA 108.
HB 4773
(Rep. Maddock)A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The
code of criminal procedure," by amending section 12 of
chapter IX and sections 11b and 16m of chapter XVII (MCL
769.12, 777.11b, and 777.16m), section 12 of chapter IX as
amended by 2012 PA 319, section 11b of chapter XVII as
amended by 2016 PA 234, and section 16m of chapter XVII
as amended by 2018 PA 637.
HB 4774
(Rep. Hornberger)
A bill to amend 1953 PA 232,
entitled "Corrections code of 1953," by amending section
33b (MCL 791.233b), as amended by 2019 PA 16.
Brendan Boudreau, representing Great Lakes Gun Rights, testified in support of HB 4770, HB
4771, HB 4772, HB 4773 and HB 4774.
Tom Lambert, representing Michigan Open Carry, testified in support of HB 4770, HB 4771, HB
4772, HB 4773 and HB 4774.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4770, HB 4771, HB 4772, HB 4773
and HB 4774, but did not wish to speak:
Autumn Gillard, representing the Trinity Health.
Everytown for Gun Safety.
Representative Markkanen moved to refer House Bill 4770 to the committee on Judiciary. The
motion prevailed 5-1-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Rep. Manoogian.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T. Carter.
Representative Afendoulis moved to refer House Bill 4771 to the committee on Judiciary. The
motion prevailed 5-1-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Rep. Manoogian.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T. Carter.
Representative Marino moved to refer House Bill 4772 to the committee on Judiciary. The
motion prevailed 5-1-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Rep. Manoogian.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T. Carter.
Representative Mueller moved to refer House Bill 4773 to the committee on Judiciary. The
motion prevailed 5-1-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Rep. Manoogian.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T. Carter.
Representative LaFave moved to refer House Bill 4774 to the committee on Judiciary. The
motion prevailed 5-1-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Rep. Manoogian.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T. Carter.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Beau LaFave adjourned the meeting
at 12:50 PM.
Representative Beau LaFave, Chair
Matt Carnagie
Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUTDOOR RECREATION
REP. GARY HOWELL
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 22, 2019
12:00 PM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Outdoor Recreation was called to
order by Chair Howell.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Howell, Wakeman, Calley, Reilly, Rendon, Eisen, Sowerby, Cambensy,
Pohutsky.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Wakeman moved to adopt the minutes from the October 15th, 2019 meeting.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4589 before the committee:
HB 4589
(Rep. Howell)
A bill to designate the eastern wild turkey as
the official game bird of the state of Michigan.
Representative Reilly moved to refer House Bill No. 4589 to the committee on Ways and Means.
The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Howell, Wakeman, Calley, Reilly, Rendon, Eisen, Sowerby, Pohutsky.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4332 before the committee:
HB 4332
(Rep. LaFave)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled"
Natural resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 40102, 40103, and 40114 (MCL
324.40102, 324.40103, and 324.40114), section 40102 as
amended by 2015 PA 24, section 40103 as amended by 2016
PA 382, and section 40114 as amended by 2018 PA 390, and
by adding section 40111d.
Representative LaFave testified in support of HB 4332.
Chris Turek, representing Up North Air Gunner, testified in support of HB 4332 via YouTube
video.
Craig Brunet, representing Michigan Department of Natural Resources, testified in opposition to
HB 4332.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4332, but did not wish to speak:
Velocity Outdoors.
The Chair laid HB 4439 before the committee:
HB 4439
(Rep. Cole)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled"
Natural resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 40111a (MCL 324.40111a), as amended by
2015 PA 265.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4439, but did not wish to
speak:
Thomas Gilpin, representing the Michigan Sierra Club.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4439, but did not wish to speak:
Craig Brunet, representing the Michigan Department of Natural Resources.
Andrew Vermeesch, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Representative Wakeman moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4439. The motion prevailed 9-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Howell, Wakeman, Calley, Reilly, Rendon, Eisen, Sowerby, Cambensy,
Pohutsky.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Cole testified in support of HB 4439 (H-1).
Minority Vice Chair Sowerby made a motion to reconsider the vote of HB 4589
The motion prevailed 9-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Howell, Wakeman, Calley, Reilly, Rendon, Eisen, Sowerby, Cambensy,
Pohutsky.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Reilly moved to refer House Bill No. 4589 to the committee on Ways and Means.
The motion prevailed 9-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Howell, Wakeman, Calley, Reilly, Rendon, Eisen, Sowerby, Cambensy,
Pohutsky.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4313 before the committee:
HB 4313
(Rep. Howell)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled
"Natural resources and environmental protection act,"(MCL
324.101 to 324.90106) by adding section 43525c.
Representative Eisen moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4313. The motion prevailed 9-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Howell, Wakeman, Calley, Reilly, Rendon, Eisen, Sowerby, Cambensy,
Pohutsky.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Chairman Howell handed the gavel over to Vice Chair Wakeman at 12:37 p.m.
Chairman Howell testified in support of HB 4313 (H-1).
Chairman Howell took the gavel back at 12:44 p.m.
Lyle Jaworski, representing Michigan Game Breeders Association, testified in support of HB
4313 (H-1).
Jim Smith and Tom Shook, representing Michigan Pheasant Hunting Initiative, testified in
support of HB 4313 (H-1).
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4313 (H-1), but due to the
time constraints were unable to speak:
Dan McMaster, Pheasants Forever
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4313(H-1), but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Nick Green and Ian Fitzgerald, Michigan United Conservation Clubs
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4313 (H-1), but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Gary Pruden, Private Land Owner Eaton County
The following people submitted a card with no position onHB 4313 (H-1), but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Brad Brunkein, Michigan Pheasant Hunting Initiative
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4313 (H-1), but did not
wish to speak:
Craig Brunet, representing the Michigan Department of Natural Resources.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4313 (H-1), but did not wish to speak:
Steve DeLong, representing the Cass City Gun Club.
Tim Dusterwinkle, representing the Michigan Bear Hunters Association.
Joe Hudson, representing the Upper Peninsula Bear Houndsmen Association.
Jim Wale, representing the Michigan State United Coon Hunters Association.
Roger Thorman, representing the Michigan State Foxhunter Association.
Sally Stonan, representing the Waterloo Hunt Club.
Mike Thorman, representing the Michigan Hunting Dog Federation.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Gary Howell adjourned the meeting
at 12:59 PM.
Representative Gary Howell, Chair
Amy Rostkowycz
Committee Clerk
arostkowycz@house.mi.gov