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**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 6, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on PreK-12 was scheduled for Monday, March 6, 2023,
at 5:30 p.m., in the 16400 Carter Rd, Woodhaven, MI 48183.
At 5:34 p.m., Sen.(s) Mary Cavanagh, Darrin Camilleri, Dayna Polehanki, Kevin Hertel and Veronica Klinefelt
entered the meeting.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 5:35 p.m.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding early childhood education
Mark Greathead, Woodhaven-Brownstown Superintendent – No Position
Tim Podlewski, Yake Elementary Principal – No Position
Matt Salah, Director of Special Services for Woodhaven-Brownstown – No Position
At 5:40 p.m., Sen. Thomas Albert entered the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding the expansion of the Great Start
Readiness Program
Dr. Daveda Colbert, Wayne RESA Superintendent – No Position
Dr. Sophia Lafayette-Lause, Wayne RESA Executive Director of Early Childhood Services – No Position
At 6:35 p.m., Sen. Kevin Hertel left the meeting.
At 6:58 p.m. the Chair instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the following members were present:
Chair Camilleri, Sen.(s) Polehanki, Klinefelt, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh, supported by Sen. Camilleri, to adopt the meeting minutes
from February 28, 2023. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt, supported by Sen. Camilleri, to excuse absent members from
the meeting. Without objection, Sen.(s) Hertel and Theis were excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Polehanki,
supported by Sen. Klinefelt, to adjourn the committee at 6:59 p.m.Without objection, the committee was
adjourned.
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location: Room 519, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Absent: Rep. Mueller.
Excused: Rep. Mueller.
Representative Arbit joined the committee remotely.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Chair Hope laid before the committee a presentation by the Michigan Department of
Corrections. Kyle Kaminski, Legislative Liaison for the department, gave a presentation to
the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
Chair Hope laid before the committee a presentation by the Michigan Center for Youth
Justice. Jennifer Peacock, Policy Director, gave a presentation to the committee. Questions
and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card wishing to speak, but due to the time constraints was
unable to speak:
John Taylor, representing Pathways Community Mental Health.
Representative Andrews moved to excuse Representative Mueller from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
9:53 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
REP. MATT KOLESZAR
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Education was called to order by Chair Koleszar.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Wegela, Greene,
Markkanen, Paquette, Wendzel, Johnsen.
Absent: Reps. Stone, Edwards.
Excused: Reps. Stone, Edwards.
Representative Paquette joined the committee remotely.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4064 and HB 4157 before the committee:
HB 4064
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to 380.1852) by
adding section 1164c.
HB 4157
(Rep. Coleman)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to 380.1852) by
adding section 1138a.
Representative Wegela offered the following amendments to HB 4064:
1. Amend page 1, line 5, after "a" by inserting "list of".
2. Amend page 1, line 5, after "model" by striking out "program of" and inserting
"programs for the".
3. Amend page 2, line 1, after "If" by striking out "a" and inserting "the list of".
4. Amend page 2, line 1, after "model" by striking out "program" and inserting
"programs".
5. Amend page 2, line 5, after "incorporate" by inserting "at least 1 of".
6. Amend page 2, line 5, after "model" by striking out "program" and inserting
"programs".
7. Amend page 2, line 7, by striking out "a" and inserting "the list of".
8. Amend page 2, line 7, after "model" by striking out "program" and inserting
"programs".
9. Amend page 2, line 11, after "incorporate" by inserting "at least 1 of".
10. Amend page 2, line 12, by striking out "program" and inserting "programs".
Representative Wegela moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4064. The motion prevailed 9-
0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Conlin, Wegela, Greene, Markkanen,
Wendzel, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Glanville.
Representative Brenda Carter introduced HB 4064, as amended. Questions and discussion
followed.
Representative Coleman introduced HB 4157. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4064, but did not wish to speak:
David Randels, representing Oakland Schools.
Sheryl Kennedy, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
Matthew Schuller, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents &
Administrators.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4157, but did not wish to speak:
Sheryl Kennedy, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
Representative Conlin moved to excuse Representatives Stone and Edwards from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Koleszar adjourned the meeting
at 9:17 AM.
Representative Matt Koleszar, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Markkanen, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4033 before the committee:
HB 4033
(Rep. Paiz)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," (MCL 168.1 to 168.992) by adding
section 634b.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4033, but did not wish to speak:
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State.
Chris Swope, the Lansing City Clerk.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4033, but did not wish to speak:
Ted Nickels, representing themselves.
Representative Hope moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4033. The motion prevailed 8-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Markkanen, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 4033 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Markkanen, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4127 and HB 4128 before the committee:
HB 4127
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 234d
(MCL 750.234d), as amended by 1994 PA 158.
HB 4128
(Rep. Young)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section 234d
(MCL 750.234d), as amended by 1994 PA 158.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4127, but did not wish to speak:
Kelsey Rogers, representing Campaign Legal Center Action.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4127 and HB 4128, but did not wish
to speak:
Matt Patton, representing Protect Democracy.
Judy Karandjeff, representing the League of Women Voters.
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State.
Chris Swope, the Lansing City Clerk.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4127 and HB 4128, but did not
wish to speak:
Ted Nickels, representing themselves.
Scott Jones, representing the National Rifle Association Institute of Legislative Action.
Tom Lambert, representing Michigan Open Carry.
ChairTsernoglou moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4127. The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Markkanen, Smit.
Pass: None.
Representative Byrnes moved to report out HB 4127 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
2). The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Markkanen, Smit.
Pass: None.
Representative Churches moved to report out HB 4128 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Markkanen, Smit.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4156 before the committee:
HB 4156
(Rep. Rheingans)
A bill to enter into the agreement among the states
to elect the President by national popular vote; and
for related purposes.
Representative Rheingans testified in support of HB 4156. Questions and discussion
followed.
Judy Karandjeff, representing the League of Women Voters, testified in support of HB 4156.
Courtney Blake Sims, representing Mothering Justice, testified in support of HB 4156.
Quentin Turner, representing Common Cause Michigan, testified in support of HB 4156.
Questions and discussion followed.
Merissa Kovach, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, testified in
support of HB 4156.
Charles Perricone testified in support of HB 4156. Questions and discussion followed.
Randy Richardville, representing Conservatives for National Popular Vote, testified in
support of HB 4156. Questions and discussion followed.
Dr. Gary Wolfram testified in support of HB 4156.
Sean Parnell, representing Save Our States, testified in opposition to HB 4156. Questions and
discussion followed.
John J. Crawford, representing Keep Our 50 States, testified in opposition to HB 4156.
Steve Liedel, representing Dykema, testified in support of HB 4156.
Chris Pearson, representing National Popular Vote, testified in support of HB 4156.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4156, but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Sheree Ritchie, representing Pure Integrity Michigan Elections.
Tony Daunt, representing themselves.
Tom Stillings, representing themselves.
Bruce Barlond, representing themselves.
Pete Lund, representing themselves.
Bethany Griffin, representing the Genesee County GOP.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4156, but did not wish to speak:
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State.
Nancy Wang, representing Voters Not Politicians.
Sean McBrearty, representing Clean Water Action.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4156, but did not wish to speak:
Bill Richardson, representing themselves.
Ted Nickels, representing themselves.
Rob Anderson, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
David Guenther, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Jasper Hendricks, representing Democrats for the Electoral College.
Stephanie Kreuz, representing Heritage Action for America.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 11:56 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND SENIORS
REP. STEPHANIE A YOUNG
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Families, Children and Seniors was called to order by Chair Young.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox, Friske,
Johnsen.
Absent: Rep. Edwards.
Excused: Rep. Edwards.
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid a presentation on the Michigan State University Extension before the
committee.
Director Dr. Quentin Tyler and Associate Director Dr. Deanna East, representing Michigan
State University Extension, gave the presentation. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid a presentation on the Michigan League for Public Policy before the
committee.
Monique Stanton, President and CEO, and Rachel Richards, Fiscal Policy Director
representing the Michigan League for Public Policy gave the presentation. Questions and
discussion followed.
Representative Coffia moved to excuse Representative Edwards from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Young adjourned the meeting.
Representative Stephanie Young, Chair
Elaine Kupiec
Committee Clerk
ekupiec@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON MILITARY, VETERANS AND HOMELAND SECURITY
REP. JENNIFER CONLIN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
12:00 p.m.
Room 327, House Office
Building
The House Committee on Military, Veterans and Homeland Security was called
to order by Chair Conlin.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Conlin, Coleman, Tyrone Carter, Stone, Rogers, Wegela,
Markkanen, Bezotte, Carra, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Stone moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28,
2023. There being no objections, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation given by the Michigan
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs on recruiting and retention
incentives.
The following presenters testified:
Terry Sabo, Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs in the Michigan
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs;
Colonel Scott Meyers, Commander of Camp Grayling Joint Maneuver
Training Center;
Jeff Frisby, Executive Director for the National Guard Association; and
Adam Hollier, Director of the Michigan Veterans Affairs Agency.
Christine Apostle, Chief Financial Officer for the Michigan Department of
Military and Veterans Affairs, was available for questions.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Stone
moved to adjourn; Chair Jennifer Conlin adjourned the meeting at 12:45 p.m.
Representative Jennifer Conlin, Chair
Joy Brewer
Committee Clerk
joybrewer@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY REFORM
REP. TYRONE CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Regulatory Reform was called to order by Chair Tyrone Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Absent: Rep. Mueller.
Excused: Rep. Mueller.
Representative Neeley moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by Paige Fults, Director, Office of Policy
and Legislative Affairs, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Questions and discussion followed.
At 11:01 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 11:04 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid before the Committee a presentation by Brian Hanna, Director, Cannabis
Regulatory Agency, and Derek Sova, Policy and Legislative Specialist, Cannabis Regulatory
Agency. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Filler moved to excuse Representative Mueller from the meeting. There being
no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tyrone Carter adjourned the
meeting at 11:44 AM.
Representative Tyrone Carter, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Bruck joined the committee remotely.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HR 52 before the committee:
HR 52
(Rep. Miller)
A resolution to encourage the United States
Federal Government to increase transparency and
notification standards around the transportation of
toxic waste materials across state and community
lines.
Representative Miller, joined by Kevin Krouse, Interim Director of Community Safety and
Development for the City of Romulus Michigan, both testified in support of HR 52. Questions
and discussion followed.
Representative MacDonell moved to report out HR 52 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HR 52 , but did not wish to speak:
Donald Roach, representing SMART Union.
BJ Trumble, representing the Michigan State Legislative Board.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club Michigan Chapter.
Amy O'Leary, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
The Chair laid the presentation from the Michigan Infrastructure and Transportation Association
before the committee.
Lance Binoniemi, representing the Michigan Infrastructure and Transportation Association,
provided a presentation on Michigan Infrastructure Needs and Funding. Questions and
discussion followed.
The Chair laid the presentation from the American Council of Engineering Companies of
Michigan before the committee.
Jayson Nault, P.E. and Ron Brenke, P.E., both representing the American Council of Engineering
Companies of Michigan, provided a presentation on the American Council of Engineering
Companies of Michigan and Specific Infrastructure Needs in the State of Michigan. Questions
and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting at
11:34 AM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR JEFF IRWIN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2406
FAX: (517) 373-5679
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Housing and Human Services was scheduled for Tuesday, March 7,
2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 55 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Testimony regarding SB 137 (Sen. Damoose).
3. Testimony regarding SB 138 (Sen. Irwin).
4. Presentation from the Michigan State Housing Development Authority.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:00 noon. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey,
Hoitenga, and Damoose, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
Sen. Chang offered an (S-1) version of SB 55.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 55. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga, and
Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Chang to summarize the (S-1) version of SB 55.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 55:
Todd Tennis, Center for Civil Justice – Support
Peter Morman, Michigan Department of Treasury – Neutral
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report the (S-1) version of SB 55 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, and Damoose
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey and Hoitenga
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 55 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
The Chair and Sen. Damoose summarized SB 137 and SB 138.
At 12:07 p.m., Sen. Santana entered the meeting.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 137 and SB 138:
Chair Jamie Stuck, The United Tribes of Michigan – Support
President Whitney Gravelle, Bay Mills Indian Community – Support
Chief Judge Jocelyn Fabry, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians – Support
Jason Cross, State Manager of the Indian Child Welfare Act – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 137 and
SB 138:
Honorable Melissa Pope, President of the Michigan Indian Judicial Association – Support
Chairman Austin Lowes, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians – Support
Brendan Ringlever, Nottawaseppi Huron Band of the Potawatpomi – Support
The Chair invited Amy Hovey, Executive Director of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority, to
give a presentation regarding an overview of the Department.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:20 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: March 14, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN CHERRY, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. KEVIN DALEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
AND AGRICULTURE
SENATOR SUE SHINK
CHAIR
4200 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2426
FAX: (517) 373-2964
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Natural Resources and Agriculture was scheduled for Tuesday, March 7,
2023, at 3:00 p.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 52 (Sen. Cherry) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Presentation by the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Shink, Sen.(s) Cherry, Singh, Polehanki, Daley, Victory and Hoitenga, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Singh to report SB 52 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Shink, Sen.(s) Cherry, Singh, Polehanki, Daley, Victory, and Hoitenga.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 52. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair invited Justin Tomei and Amy Trotter from the Michigan United Conservation Clubs for a
presentation. Member questions followed.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:33 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: May 16, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE
SENATOR ERIKA GEISS
CHAIR
5500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7800
FAX: (517) 373-9310
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was scheduled for Tuesday, March 7,
2023, at 3:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 43 (S-1) (Sen. Cherry).
2. Presentation from the Michigan Townships Association.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:32 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann,
McBroom, Victory, Bumstead, and Bellino, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to adopt the meeting minutes from February 28, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Cherry to summarize SB 43.
Sen. Klinefelt offered an (S-1) version of SB 43.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 43 and (S-1):
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – Support
At 3:38 p.m., Sen. Camilleri left the meeting and did not return.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 43. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Chang, McCann, McBroom, Victory, Bumstead, and
Bellino
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 43:
Lance Binoniemi, Michigan Infrastructure and Transportation Association – Support
William Miller, International Union of Operating Engineers Local 324 – Support
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The Chair invited Judy Allen, of the Michigan Townships Association, to give a presentation regarding an
overview of the Association.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:03 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 03/21/2023
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location: Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on DHHS submitted the following:

Meeting held on Tuesday, March 7, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Santana (C), McDonald Rivet, Irwin, Cavanagh, Cherry, Bayer, Outman, Huizenga, Hauck and Theis

Excused: Senator Camilleri

Scheduled Meetings

Appropriations –

Subcommittees –

Corrections and Judiciary – Thursday, March 9, 2:00 p.m., or immediately following session, Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

MDE – Thursday, March 9, 9:00 a.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

Military, Veterans, State Police – Tuesday, March 14, 9:00 a.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-2768

Transportation – Thursday, March 9, 3:00 p.m., or immediately following session, Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-2768

Civil Rights, Judiciary and Public Safety – Thursday, March 9, 11:00 a.m., or immediately following session, Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5312

Economic and Community Development – Thursday, March 9, 12:00 noon, Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-1721

Energy and Environment – Thursday, March 9, 1:30 p.m., Room 403, 4th Floor, Capitol Building (517) 373-5323

Oversight – Wednesday, March 15, 8:30 a.m., Room 1200, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-5314

Regulatory Affairs – Thursday, March 9, 8:30 a.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building (517) 373-1721

Senator Singh moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 3:26 p.m.

The President pro tempore, Senator Moss, declared the Senate adjourned until Thursday, March 9, 2023, at 10:00 a.m.

DANIEL OBERLIN

Secretary of the Senate


location: the Rooms 402/403, Capitol Building

evidence_text:
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on DHHS was scheduled for Tuesday, March 7, 2023, at
8:30 a.m., in the Rooms 402/403, Capitol Building.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:31 a.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Santana, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Cavanagh, Cherry, Outman,
Huizenga, and Hauck, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet, supported by Sen. Cavanagh, to adopt the meeting
minutes from March 2, 2023. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding Behavioral Health Services
Eric Doeh, CEO, Detroit Wayne Integrated Health Network
Sandra Lindsey, CEO, Saginaw County Community Mental Health Authority
Michael Hunter, President, Team Wellness Center
Mona Makki, Andrew Coleman, and Jessica Kowalski, ACCESS
Farah Hanley, Chief Deputy Director for Health and Jeff Wieferich, Director of the Bureau of Specialty
Behavioral Health Services, Department of Health and Human Services
At 8:33 a.m., Sen. Lana Theis entered the meeting.
At 8:37 a.m., Sen. Rosemary Bayer entered the meeting.
At 8:38 a.m., Sen. Jeff Irwin entered the meeting.
At 8:50 a.m., Sen. Kristen McDonald Rivet left the meeting.
At 8:58 a.m., Sen.(s) Mark Huizenga, Rick Outman and Lana Theis left the meeting.
The Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Cherry, to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without
objection, Sen. Camilleri was excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair made a motion, supported by Sen. Irwin, to
adjourn the committee at 9:54 a.m.Without objection, the committee was adjourned.
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evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. ANGELA WITWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 352, House Appropriations,
State Capitol Building
The House Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Witwer.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Witwer, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Weiss, Martus,
McKinney, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson, Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh,
Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn, Schuette, Steele.
Absent: Reps. O'Neal, Mentzer.
Excused: Reps. O'Neal, Mentzer.
Representative Martus moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 22, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative McKinney moved to excuse Representatives O'Neal and Mentzer from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid the presentation from Our Next Energy before the comittee.
Dr. Deeana Ahmed representing the Our Next Energy testified in support of Questions and
discussion followed.
Dr. Deeana Ahmed representing the Our Next Energy testified in support of Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of , but did not wish to speak:
Kyle McCree, representing the Consumers Energy.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Witwer adjourned the meeting at
9:55 AM.
Josh Hundt, representing the Michigan Economic Development Corporation, approached to
answer questions from members.
Representative Angela Witwer, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 15,
2023


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Hill, MacDonell, McFall,
Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: Reps. Andrews, Churches.
Excused: Reps. Andrews, Churches.
Representative Coleman moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation by:
Laura Clark, State Chief Information Officer, DTMB.
Jayson Cavendish, Acting Chief Security Officer for the State, Department of Technology,
Management and Budget.
Detective First Lieutenant Jim Ellis, Michigan Cyber Command, Michigan State Police.
Lt. Colonel John Brady, Commander of the 272d Cyber Operations Squadron, Michigan
National Guard.
Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Byrnes moved to excuse Representatives Andrews and Churches from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
10:15 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION
REP. CAROL GLANVILLE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Higher Education was called to order by Chair Glanville.
The Clerk read the letter from House Speaker Joe Tate removing Representative Tom Kunse
and appointing Representative William Bruck to the House Committee on Higher Education.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell,
Paiz, VanderWall, Paquette, Zorn, Bruck, DeSana.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representatives Paquette and Bruck joined the committee remotely.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid the presentation from Dan Hurley, Michigan Association of State Universities,
before the committee.
Dan Hurley, Michigan Association of State Universities, gave a presentation on state
universities in Michigan. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Glanville adjourned the meeting
at 11:28 AM.
Representative Carol Glanville, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: April 12, 2023


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
3:27 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
The Chair laid HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB
4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148 before the committee:
HB 4138
(Rep. Churches)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An act to
regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular disruption
devices; to prohibit the buying, selling, or carrying
of certain firearms, gas ejecting devices, and
electro-muscular disruption devices without a
license or other authorization; to provide for the
forfeiture of firearms and electro-muscular
disruption devices under certain circumstances; to
provide for penalties and remedies; to provide
immunity from civil liability under certain
circumstances; to prescribe the powers and duties
of certain state and local agencies; to prohibit
certain conduct against individuals who apply for
or receive a license to carry a concealed pistol; to
make appropriations; to prescribe certain
conditions for the appropriations; and to repeal all
acts and parts of acts inconsistent with this act,"
by amending sections 2, 2a, 2b, 12, and 14a (MCL
28.422, 28.422a, 28.422b, 28.432, and 28.434a),
section 2 as amended by 2015 PA 200, section 2a
as amended by 2016 PA 301, section 2b as
amended by 2014 PA 205, section 12 as amended
by 2010 PA 209, and section 14a as added by 2010
PA 295.
HB 4139
(Rep. MacDonell)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 11b
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.11b), as amended by
2016 PA 234.
HB 4140
(Rep. Whitsett)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
(MCL 205.91 to 205.111) by adding section 4ll.
HB 4141
(Rep. Price)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled "General
sales tax act," (MCL 205.51 to 205.78) by adding
section 4ll.
HB 4142
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending sections 223
and 232a (MCL 750.223 and 750.232a), section
223 as amended by 2012 PA 242 and section 232a
as amended by 1990 PA 321.
HB 4143
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending sections 11b
and 16m of chapter XVII (MCL 777.11b and
777.16m), section 11b as amended by 2016 PA
234 and section 16m as amended by 2018 PA 637.
HB 4144
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An act to
regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular disruption
devices; to prohibit the buying, selling, or carrying
of certain firearms, gas ejecting devices, and
electro-muscular disruption devices without a
license or other authorization; to provide for the
forfeiture of firearms and electro-muscular
disruption devices under certain circumstances; to
provide for penalties and remedies; to provide
immunity from civil liability under certain
circumstances; to prescribe the powers and duties
of certain state and local agencies; to prohibit
certain conduct against individuals who apply for
or receive a license to carry a concealed pistol; to
make appropriations; to prescribe certain
conditions for the appropriations; and to repeal all
acts and parts of acts inconsistent with this act,"
by amending section 15 (MCL 28.435), as added
by 2000 PA 265, and by adding section 9.
HB 4145
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to provide for the issuance of restraining
orders prohibiting certain individuals from
possessing or purchasing firearms and ordering
the surrender and seizure of a restrained
individual's firearms; to provide for the powers
and duties of certain state and local governmental
officers and entities; to prescribe penalties; and to
provide remedies.
HB 4146
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An act to
regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular disruption
devices; to prohibit the buying, selling, or carrying
of certain firearms, gas ejecting devices, and
electro-muscular disruption devices without a
license or other authorization; to provide for the
forfeiture of firearms and electro-muscular
disruption devices under certain circumstances; to
provide for penalties and remedies; to provide
immunity from civil liability under certain
circumstances; to prescribe the powers and duties
of certain state and local agencies; to prohibit
certain conduct against individuals who apply for
or receive a license to carry a concealed pistol; to
make appropriations; to prescribe certain
conditions for the appropriations; and to repeal all
acts and parts of acts inconsistent with this act,"
by amending sections 2, 2b, 5b, and 8 (MCL
28.422, 28.422b, 28.425b, and 28.428), section 2
as amended by 2015 PA 200, section 2b as
amended by 2014 PA 205, and sections 5b and 8
as amended by 2017 PA 95.
HB 4147
(Rep. Brixie)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending sections
1908, 2529, and 2559 (MCL 600.1908, 600.2529,
and 600.2559), section 2529 as amended by 2014
PA 532 and section 2559 as amended by 2018 PA
261.
HB 4148
(Rep. Young)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," (MCL 760.1 to 777.69) by
adding section 15e to chapter XVII.
Katherine Moore representing the Giffords testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB
4140, HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
Congressman Dave Trott representing the himself testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139,
HB 4140, HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB
4148.
Timothy Carey, Law and Policy Advisor Advisor, Johns HopkinsBloomberg School of Public
Health representing the himself testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB
4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
Wayne County Prosecutor, Kym Worthy; Washtenaw County Prosecutor, Eli Savit; and
Oakland County Prosecutor, Karen McDonald testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB
4140, HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
Questions and discussion followed.
Carley Freeman Wechwert and Dr. Adam Spina representing the CEO of People and Parents
Against Violence in Schools and himself testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140,
HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
Dylan Morris representing the Oxford High School and No Future Without Today testified in
support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145,
HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
Representative Brixie, Krista Grettenberger and Sloane Forbush representing the Troy
Forbush, MSU shooting victim testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB
4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
Danielle Clark and Aaron Van Langevelde representing the Michigan Department of Attorney
General testified in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB 4141, HB 4142, HB 4143,
HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148.
John Lott, President representing the Crime Prevention Research Center testified in
opposition to HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB
4147 and HB 4148. Questions and discussion followed.
At 4:47 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 4:54 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Judge Tracey Yokich representing the herself testified in support of HB 4145. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB 4141,
HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148, but did not wish
to speak:
Beth Berglin, Initiatives & Public Policy Officer, representing the Kalamazoo
Community Foundation.
Vic Ledbetter, Director, representing the Truth Racial Healing and Transformation,
Kalamazoo Foundation.
Heather Nicholoff, representing the Michigan Council of Nurse Practitioners.
Chelsie Downs-Hubbarth, representing the Creative Consulting Hub.
Anne Kuhnen, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy - Kids Count.
Kevin McKinney, representing the Michigan Osteopathic Association.
Dina Shargabian Stuber, representing the Red Wine & Blue.
Jennifer Norber, representing the Red Wine & Blue.
Phil Neuman, representing the Jewish Community Relations Council - AJC.
Cathy Marshall, representing the Moms Demand Action / End Gun Violence Michigan.
Emily Busch, representing the Oxford High School.
David Batten, representing the his family.
Celeste Kanpurwala, representing the Moms Demand Action.
David Randels, representing the Oakland Schools.
Matt Black, representing the The Michigan Academy of Family Physicians.
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB
4141, HB 4142, HB 4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148, but did not
wish to speak:
Jacob Maerli, representing the National Association for Gun Rights.
Scott Jones, representing the NRA - ILA.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4140, HB 4141,
HB 4142 and HB 4143, but did not wish to speak:
Dwayne Gill, representing the Alliance for Gun Responsibility.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4138, HB 4139, HB 4142, HB
4143, HB 4144, HB 4145, HB 4146, HB 4147 and HB 4148, but did not wish to speak:
Brady Schickinger, representing the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners.
Dale Hendershot, representing the Michigan Trappers and Predator Callers Association.
Rob Anderson, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4138, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Saxton, Executive Director, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association.
The following people submitted a card with no position on HB 4145, but did not wish to
speak:
Honorable Elizabeth Pollard Hine (retired), representing the herself.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4140 and HB 4141, but did not wish
to speak:
Rob Anderson, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Rob Mass, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4138 and HB 4144, but did not
wish to speak:
Christopher Lee, representing the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
At 5:41 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 5:44 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4138. The motion prevailed
8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 4138 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
Representative Hoskins moved to report out HB 4142 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out HB 4143 with recommendation. The
motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
1. Amend page 11, line 11, after “(8)” by inserting “This section does not prevent the
transfer of ownership of firearms as follows:
(a)”.
2. Amend page 11, line 15, by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
3. Amend page 11, line 17, by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
4. Amend page 11, line 22, after the first “the” by striking out “firearm” and inserting
“pistol”.
5. Amend page 11, line 26, after “the” by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
6. Amend page 12, line 2, by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
7. Amend page 12, line 3, after the second “the” by striking out “firearm” and inserting
“pistol”.
8. Amend page 12, line 5, by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
9. Amend page 12, line 11, by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
10. Amend page 12, line 13, after “a” by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
11. Amend page 12, line 15, by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
12. Amend page 12, line 19, after “the” by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
13. Amend page 12, line 25, after “seized” by striking out “firearm” and inserting “pistol”.
14. Amend page 12, line 27, by striking out “(a)” and inserting “(i)”.
15. Amend page 13, line 1, by striking out “(b)” and inserting “(ii)”.
16. Amend page 13, following line 2, by inserting:
“(b) This section does not prevent the transfer of a firearm longer than 26 inches in length
between family members, unless the transferee is not qualified for a license under this
section. For purposes of this subsection, an individual’s family member includes that
individual’s parent, child, grandparent, grandchild, spouse, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, and
first cousin.”.
The motion did not prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
5:49 PM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 15,
2023


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Dievendorf moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4003 and SB 4 before the committee:
HB 4003
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 453, entitled "Elliott-
Larsen civil rights act," by amending the title and
sections 102, 103, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207,
209, 301, 302, 302a, 402, 501, 502, 504, 505, and
506 (MCL 37.2102, 37.2103, 37.2202, 37.2203,
37.2204, 37.2205, 37.2206, 37.2207, 37.2209,
37.2301, 37.2302, 37.2302a, 37.2402, 37.2501,
37.2502, 37.2504, 37.2505, and 37.2506), the title
as amended by 1992 PA 258, sections 102, 502,
504, 505, and 506 as amended by 1992 PA 124,
sections 103 and 301 as amended by 1999 PA 202,
section 202 as amended by 2009 PA 190, section
302a as added by 1992 PA 70, and section 402 as
amended by 1993 PA 216.
SB 4
(Sen. Moss)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 453, entitled "Elliott-
Larsen civil rights act," by amending the title and
sections 102, 103, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207,
209, 301, 302, 302a, 402, 501, 502, 504, 505, and
506 (MCL 37.2102, 37.2103, 37.2202, 37.2203,
37.2204, 37.2205, 37.2206, 37.2207, 37.2209,
37.2301, 37.2302, 37.2302a, 37.2402, 37.2501,
37.2502, 37.2504, 37.2505, and 37.2506), the title
as amended by 1992 PA 258, sections 102, 502,
504, 505, and 506 as amended by 1992 PA 124,
sections 103 and 301 as amended by 1999 PA 202,
section 202 as amended by 2009 PA 190, section
302a as added by 1992 PA 70, and section 402 as
amended by 1993 PA 216.
Representative Hoskins and Senator Moss testified in support of HB 4003 and SB 4.
Questions and discussion followed.
Jay Kaplan representing the ACLU of Michigan testified in support of HB 4003 and SB 4.
Questions and discussion followed.
Tom Hickson representing the Michigan Catholic Conference testified in opposition to HB
4003 and SB 4.
Wendy Block representing the MI - Chamber testified in support of SB 4.
Erin Knott representing the Equality Michigan testified in support of SB 4.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4003 and SB 4, but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Benjamin D. Orjada, representing the Young Democrats of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4003 and SB 4, but due to the
time constraints were unable to speak:
Austin Kreutz, representing the Bonltoeffen Forum.
Dawud Walid, representing the CAIR - MI.
Eileen McNeil, representing the Citizens for Traditional Values.
Julie Doll, representing the themselves.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4003, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Akin Nzere Kwabena, representing the LGBT Detroit.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4003, but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Katherine Bussard, representing the themselves.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 4, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Dell Darnell, representing the themselves.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 4, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Bree Moeggberg, representing the her business and herself.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4003 and SB 4, but did not wish to
speak:
Oakland County Executive David Coulter.
Beth Berglin, Initiatives & Public Policy Officer, representing the Kalamazoo
Community Foundation.
Andy Johnston, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Bill Flory, representing the Michigan Association for Justice.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Judy Karandjeff, representing the League of Women Voters.
Frank Foster, representing the Michigan Medicine.
Winston Feeheley, representing the DTE.
Brad Williams, representing the Detroit Regional chamber.
Jeff Stoutenburg, representing the Dow.
Kyle McCree, representing the Consumers Energy.
Brian Westrin, representing the Michigan Realtors.
Mary Pollock, representing the The American Association of University Women of
Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4003 and SB 4, but did not wish
to speak:
Stephanie Kreuz, representing the Heritage Action for America.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4003, but did not wish to speak:
John McNamera, representing the Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association.
Sarah Woolsey, representing the themselves.
Joshua Ferguson, representing the themselves.
Jimmy Greene, representing the ABC Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4003, but did not wish to speak:
Cole Thompson, representing the themselves.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 4, but did not wish to speak:
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturing Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 4, but did not wish to speak:
Elizabeth Whitt, representing the Conway Township Clerk.
Representative Johnsen offered the following amendment to HB 4003:
1. Amend page 9, line 24, after "302." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 10, following line 13, by inserting:
"(2) This section does not compel an individual to violate the individual's sincerely held
religious beliefs.".
Representative Johnsen moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4003. The motion did not
prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel offered the following amendment to HB 4003:
1. Amend page 5, following line 28, by inserting:
"(4) This section does not apply to an employer that is a religious corporation,
association, society, or other organization, including an employer that is a religious
school, college, university, educational institution, or other institution of learning, with
respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work
connected with the carrying on of its activities.".
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4003. The motion did not
prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to HB 4003:
1. Amend page 11, line 9, after "402." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 12, following line 9, by inserting:
"(2) This section does not apply to an educational institution operated by a religious
corporation, association, society, or other organization, or an educational institution
that is a religious school, college, university, or other institution of learning, with respect
to the services, activities, or programs provided by the educational institution.".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4003. The motion did not
prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Fink offered the following amendment to HB 4003:
1. Amend page 16, following line 22, by inserting:
"Enacting section 2. This amendatory act does not take effect unless House Bill No. 4075 of
the 102nd Legislature is enacted into law.".
Representative Fink moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4003. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 4003 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Wozniak.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4003:
1. Amend page 8, following line 16, by inserting:
"Sec. 208. A person subject to this article may apply to the commission for an exemption on
the basis that religion, national origin, age, height, weight, or sex, sexual orientation, or
gender identity or expression is a bona fide occupational qualification reasonably necessary
to the normal operation of the business or enterprise. Upon sufficient showing, the
commission may grant an exemption to the appropriate section of this article. An employer
may have a bona fide occupational qualification on the basis of religion, national origin, sex,
age, or marital status, height and weight age, height, weight, marital status, sex, sexual
orientation, or gender identity or expression without obtaining prior exemption from the
commission, provided that an employer who that does not obtain an exemption shall have
has the burden of establishing that the qualification is reasonably necessary to the normal
operation of the business.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4003. The motion did not
prevail 5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Johnsen offered the following amendment to SB 4:
1. Amend page 9, line 24, after "302." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 10, following line 13, by inserting:
"(2) This section does not compel an individual to violate the individual's sincerely held
religious beliefs.".
Representative Johnsen moved to adopt the amendment to SB 4. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel offered the following amendment to SB 4:
1. Amend page 5, following line 28, by inserting:
"(4) This section does not apply to an employer that is a religious corporation,
association, society, or other organization, including an employer that is a religious
school, college, university, educational institution, or other institution of learning, with
respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work
connected with the carrying on of its activities.".
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt the amendment to SB 4. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Outman offered the following amendment to SB 4:
1. Amend page 11, line 9, after "402." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 12, following line 9, by inserting:
"(2) This section does not apply to an educational institution operated by a religious
corporation, association, society, or other organization, or an educational institution
that is a religious school, college, university, or other institution of learning, with respect
to the services, activities, or programs provided by the educational institution.".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendment to SB 4. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Fink offered the following amendment to SB 4:
1. Amend page 16, following line 22, by inserting:
"Enacting section 2. This amendatory act does not take effect unless House Bill No. 4075 of
the 102nd Legislature is enacted into law.".
Representative Fink moved to adopt the amendment to SB 4. The motion did not prevail 5-8-
0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to SB 4:
1. Amend page 8, following line 16, by inserting:
"Sec. 208. A person subject to this article may apply to the commission for an exemption on
the basis that religion, national origin, age, height, weight, or sex, sexual orientation, or
gender identity or expression is a bona fide occupational qualification reasonably necessary
to the normal operation of the business or enterprise. Upon sufficient showing, the
commission may grant an exemption to the appropriate section of this article. An employer
may have a bona fide occupational qualification on the basis of religion, national origin, sex,
age, or marital status, height and weight age, height, weight, marital status, sex, sexual
orientation, or gender identity or expression without obtaining prior exemption from the
commission, provided that an employer who that does not obtain an exemption shall have
has the burden of establishing that the qualification is reasonably necessary to the normal
operation of the business.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to SB 4. The motion did not prevail
5-8-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out SB 4 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Wozniak.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
11:56 AM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 15,
2023


location: Room 308, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 308, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela,
Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Churches moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007 before the committee:
HB 4004
(Rep. Weiss)
A bill to amend 1947 PA 336, entitled "An act to
prohibit strikes by certain public employees; to
provide review from disciplinary action with
respect thereto; to provide for the mediation of
grievances and the holding of elections; to declare
and protect the rights and privileges of public
employees; to require certain provisions in
collective bargaining agreements; to prescribe
means of enforcement and penalties for the
violation of the provisions of this act; and to make
appropriations," by amending sections 9, 10, and
15 (MCL 423.209, 423.210, and 423.215), as
amended by 2014 PA 414.
HB 4005
(Rep. Weiss)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 176, entitled "An act to
create a commission relative to labor disputes, and
to prescribe its powers and duties; to provide for
the mediation and arbitration of labor disputes,
and the holding of elections thereon; to regulate
the conduct of parties to labor disputes and to
require the parties to follow certain procedures; to
regulate and limit the right to strike and picket; to
protect the rights and privileges of employees,
including the right to organize and engage in
lawful concerted activities; to protect the rights
and privileges of employers; to make certain acts
unlawful; to make appropriations; and to prescribe
means of enforcement and penalties for violations
of this act," by amending sections 1, 2, 8, 14, 17,
and 22 (MCL 423.1, 423.2, 423.8, 423.14, 423.17,
and 423.22), as amended by 2012 PA 348.
HB 4007
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to require prevailing wages and fringe
benefits on state projects; to establish the
requirements and responsibilities of contracting
agents and bidders; and to prescribe penalties.
Representative Weiss testified in support of HB 4004and HB 4005. Questions and discussion
followed.
Representative Brenda Carter testified in support of HB 4007. Questions and discussion
followed.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the Michigan American Federation of Labor and Congress of
Industrial Organizations, testified in support of HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007. Questions
and discussion followed.
Jessica Smith, representing the United Food and Commercial Workers 876, testified in
support of HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007. Questions and discussion followed.
Lee Graham, representing the Operating Engineers 324, testified in support of HB 4004, HB
4005 and HB 4007. Questions and discussion followed.
Yousef Rabhi, Jessica Lannon, and Jeremy Lapham, representing the Michigan Nurses
Association, testified in support of HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007. Questions and
discussion followed.
Jon Byrd, representing the Michigan Laborers Union, testified in support of HB 4004, HB
4005 and HB 4007.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club, testified in support of HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB
4007.
Sean McBrearty, representing Clean Water Action, testified in support of HB 4004, HB 4005
and HB 4007.
Jonas Peterson, representing Southwest Michigan First, testified in opposition to HB 4004
and HB 4005. Questions and discussion followed.
Jimmy Greene, representing the Associated Builders and Contractors of Michigan, testified in
opposition to HB 4007. Questions and discussion followed.
Price Dobernick, representing the Michigan Pipe Trades Association, testified in support of
HB 4007. Questions and discussion followed.
Jeannette Bradshaw, representing the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers State
Conference, testified in support of HB 4007. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4004 and HB 4005, but due to the
time constraints was unable to speak:
Rudolfo Reyes, representing themselves.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4004 and HB 4005, but due to the
time constraints were unable to speak:
John Kalb, representing the National Right to Work Committee.
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Philip Taylor, representing the Michigan Right to Work Committee.
Dave Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4005, but due to the time
constraints was unable to speak:
Wendy Block, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4007, but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Michael LaFaive, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007, but
due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Steve Claywell, representing the Michigan Building Trades Council.
Kennedy Parker, representing themselves.
Julie Loeke, representing the United Auto Workers.
Steve Dawes, representing the United Auto Workers Region 1D.
Lance A. Rhines, representing the Office and Professional Employees International
Union Local 459.
Zachary Aaron Northrup, representing Local 2-585.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007, but
due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Cole Thompson, representing themselves.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4004, but did not wish to speak:
Jon DeRoo, representing the Detroit Plumbers Local 98.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4005, but did not wish to speak:
Blaine Farr, representing Labor.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4004 and HB 4005, but did not wish
to speak:
Merissa Kovach, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
DeAndra Davis, representing the Communications Workers of America.
Charles Daniels and Michael Scauhe, representing the Communications Workers of
America District 4.
Diane Payne, representing the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace
Workers Local 698.
Sarah Woolsey, representing themselves.
Bill Flory, representing the Michigan Association for Justice.
Branden Gemzer, representing the Members of UAE.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4004 and HB 4005, but did not
wish to speak:
Jimmy Greene, representing the Associated Builders and Contractors of Michigan.
Amy Drumm, representing the Michigan Retailers Association.
Ben Tirrell, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
James Lilly, representing Spartan Nash.
Caitlyn Stark, representing the Cadillac Area Chamber of Commerce.
John McNamara, representing the Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association.
Annie Patnaude, representing Americans for Prosperity.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007, but
did not wish to speak:
Matt Sahr, representing the Michigan Professional Fire Fighters Union.
Carl Castiglione, representing the Plumbers Local Union 98.
Phil Bianco, representing the United Association of Employees.
Holly Simon, representing themselves.
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Utility Workers Union of America.
Benjamin D. Orjada, representing themselves.
Steven Karber and Maria Enriquez, representing the United Auto Workers Local 6000.
Ashley Huff and Monica Artis, representing the Office and Professional Employees
International Union.
John DeRoo, representing the Detroit Plumbers Local 98.
Mike Hayter, Joel Archibald, Geno Alessandroni, Paul Zurek, Dylan Burnette, Jacob
Hilliker, Scott Hamilton, Dave Willert, and Dan Minton, representing the Laborers'
International Union of North America.
Myranda Knapp, Nick Richmond, Dan Spencer, Kathy Clay, and Thomas Woodgate,
representing the United Steel Workers Local 2-585.
Jenell Mansfield, representing the American Federation of Teachers.
Scott Stone, representing the Local 36.
Chad J. Jansen and Aaron Pangborn,, representing the International Brotherhood of
Electrical Workers Local 665.
Trevor Bidelman, representing the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain
Millers International Union.
Ken Kolp, Gregory Remington, and Kellogg Dipzinski, representing the International
Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
Rod Richards, representing the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union Local
530.
Robert Steele, representing the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers 252.
Denise Caldwell, representing the Coalition of Labor Union Women and United Auto
Workers.
Mike Orvosh and Seth Orvosh, representing the United Steel Workers Local 12934.
Mark Willingham and Kimberly DeMott, representing the United Auto Workers.
Joseph Marutiak, Sharon Taylor, Ronda Ackerson, Cynthia Dine, and Lois Davis-
Thomas, representing the Office and Professional Employees International Union Local
459.
Derek Dobies, Courtney Towsley, Freddie Kelly, Regina Jones, Errin Whitaker, Ivy
Chandler, Joseph Bellgowan, Ken Toll, Angela Haynes, Vanessa Lee, Michael Kohler,
and Courtney Alexander, representing the American Federation of Labor and Congress of
Industrial Organizations of Michigan.
Ethan Petzoid, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Todd Regis, representing the United Food and Commercial Workers 951.
Representative Donavan McKinney, representing Michigan's 14th House District.
Sean Egan and Todd Cook, representing the Michigan Department of Labor.
Mike Janca, representing the International Union of Elevator Constructors Local 85.
Emily Smith, Henrietta Hadley, and Anne Fairchild, representing the American
Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations of Michigan Workforce
Development Institute.
Josephine Jabara, representing the Michigan Workforce Development Institute.
Arthur Kroll, representing the Steelworkers.
Gwen Jordan, representing themselves.
Gerard McMurran, representing the Steelworkers Retirees.
Julie Rowe, representing themselves.
Janette Christmas, Jerry Young, and Robert Gaynier, representing the United Food and
Commercial Workers 876.
Steven Donovan, representing the United Steel Workers.
Samuel Cardena, representing the Pipefitters Local Union 636.
Jeremy Garza, representing the Michigan Pipe Trades Association.
Scott Huff, Vince Dawe, Casey Baucha, Michael Murray, Steve McCool, and Dan
Fergueroa, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters.
Johnny Ortiz, representing the United Association Local Union 174.
Nathan Phillips, representing the West Michigan Labor Council.
Mark Palice, representing the Laborers Union.
Isaiah Minor and Spencer Calhoun, representing Labor.
Rose Dietz, Tim Ferguson, Fred Jimenez, and Rhonda Richards, representing the Retail,
Wholesale and Department Store Union.
Alex Zurek, representing Michigan Laborers.org.
Elizabeth Kelly Byrd, representing the Service Employees International Union of
Michigan.
Arlandar Washington, representing the Laborers' International Union of North America
Local 355.
Kenneth James Bickle, representing the Utility Workers Union of America.
Lynda Schnepp, representing the Michigan Laborers District.
Katie Bargund, Robert Joerg, and Paul Husted, representing the Michigan Laborers.
Shandon Claspell, representing the Utility Workers Union of America Local 253.
Connor Wood, representing themselves.
Nick DeFauw, representing the Laborers.
Drake Minton, representing the Laborers.
Steven Rzeppa, representing the American Federation of State, County and Municipal
Employees Council 25.
Eli Isaguirre, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights.
Ben Lyons, representing the Laborers' International Union of North America Local 499.
Donald Roach, representing the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and
Transportation Workers.
Todd Tennis, representing the Amalgamated Transit Union, Michigan Legislative
Conference, and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Michigan State
Conference.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4004, HB 4005 and HB 4007, but
did not wish to speak:
Beth DeShone, representing the Great Lakes Education Project.
Jase Bolger, representing the West Michigan Policy Forum.
Andy Johnston, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber.
Arthur Havlicek, representing the Southwest Michigan Regional Chamber.
Sarah Anderson, representing the Michigan Freedom Fund.
Stephanie Kreuz, representing Heritage Action for America.
Sandy Baruah, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
Brian Calley, representing the Small Business Association of Michigan.
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4007, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Schucer, representing the Communications Workers of America District 4.
Bill Flory, representing the Michigan Association for Justice.
Damian Hill, representing the Associated General Contractors of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4007, but did not wish to speak:
Wendy Block, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4004:
1. Amend page 8, following line 11, by inserting:
"Sec. 10a. (1) A bargaining representative shall provide to each public employee in the
bargaining unit that the bargaining representative represents, not later than 90 days
after the effective date of the amendatory act that added this section or at the time the
public employee becomes employed in that unit, the following statement in writing:
"Under the United States Supreme Court decision Janus v AFSCME, Council 31,
___US___; 138 S Ct 2448 (2018), it is a violation of a public employee's first amendment
free speech rights for a public-sector bargaining representative to require the public
employee to pay dues or fees to the bargaining representative unless the public
employee consents."
(2) A public employee may cease paying dues or fees to a bargaining representative at
any time.
(3) A bargaining representative that violates subsection (1) or prohibits a public
employee from exercising the public employee's right under subsection (2) is subject to a
civil fine of not more than $250.00 for each violation.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4004. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4004:
1. Amend page 3, line 26, after "representative." by inserting "An agreement described in
this subdivision must provide for both of the following:
(i) That if an officer of the exclusive bargaining representative for the unit is convicted
of a felony related to the finances of the exclusive bargaining representative, a public
employee in the unit is not required to pay any dues or fees to the exclusive bargaining
representative.
(ii) That if an officer of the regional or national office of the exclusive bargaining
representative is convicted of a felony related to the finances of the exclusive bargaining
representative, a public employee in the unit is not required to pay to the exclusive
bargaining representative the portion of the public employee's dues or fees that would
otherwise be remitted to the regional or national office.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4004. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt substitute (H-4) to HB 4004. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4005:
1. Amend page 4, following line 17, by inserting:
"Sec. 10a. (1) A labor organization shall provide to each employee in the bargaining unit
that the labor organization represents, not later than 90 days after the effective date of
the amendatory act that added this section or at the time the employee becomes
employed in that unit, the following statement in writing: "Under the United States
Supreme Court decision Communications Workers of America v Beck, 487 US 735 (1988),
an employee is not required to pay a due or fee to a labor organization that the labor
organization does not use for collective bargaining, contract administration, and
grievance adjustment.".
(2) An employee may cease paying dues or fees described in subsection (1) to a labor
organization at any time. A labor organization shall provide to each employee in the
bargaining unit that the labor organization represents, at the time the employee
becomes employed in the unit and annually, instructions in writing that explain the
labor organization's process for ceasing these payments.
(3) A labor organization that violates subsection (1) or (2) or that prohibits an employee
from exercising the employee's right under subsection (2) is subject to a civil fine of not
more than $250.00 for each violation.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4005. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendments to HB 4005:
1. Amend page 6, line 11, by striking out "Nothing" and inserting "Except as otherwise
provided in section 14a, nothing".
2. Amend page 6, following line 22, by inserting:
"Sec. 14a. A city, county, township, or village may authorize a right-to-work zone within
its boundaries by a vote of its governing body or by adoption of a measure initiated by
the people. The commission shall not enforce an all-union shop agreement covering
employees in a right-to-work zone if the employer entered into or renewed the
agreement after the date of adoption of the measure creating the right-to-work zone.".
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4005. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4005:
1. Amend page 7, following line 26, by inserting:
"Sec. 29a. Notwithstanding section 29, the commission shall issue an order directing an
election in any existing certified appropriate unit every year following the later of the
effective date of the amendatory act that added this section or the date of initial
certification of a bargaining representative. If the existing certified bargaining
representative receives a majority of the votes cast and the majority represents at least
50% of the employees in the unit, the existing certification continues. If the certified
bargaining representative does not receive a majority vote representing 50% of the
employees in the unit, the existing certification terminates. If certification is terminated,
the terms of the existing contract between the employees represented by the bargaining
representative and the employer continue in effect for the remaining contract term
except for any provisions that involve the duties of or obligations to the bargaining
representative, such as union security, dues and fees, and involvement in grievance and
arbitration procedures.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4005. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4005:
1. Amend page 4, following line 17, by inserting:
"Sec. 8a. Every calendar quarter, each labor organization that represents employees in
this state shall provide a written report to every employee in every unit that the labor
organization represents and post the report on its website. Each report must include all
of the following information for the immediately preceding calendar quarter:
(a) The name, salary, and amount of fringe benefits of each officer of the labor
organization.
(b) The amount of money that the labor organization paid for all of the following,
delineated by each payment:
(i) Political organizations or activities.
(ii) Charities.
(c) An itemized list of all of the labor organization's expenditures not described in
subdivision (b).".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4005. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendments to HB 4005:
1. Amend page 4, line 18, after "Sec. 14." by inserting "(1)".
2. Amend page 6, following line 22, by inserting:
"(2) An agreement between an employer and a labor organization must provide for both
of the following:
(a) That if an officer of the labor organization that represents the employees in the unit
is convicted of a felony related to the finances of the labor organization, an employee in
the unit is not required to pay any dues or fees to the labor organization.
(b) That if an officer of the regional or national office of the labor organization that
represents the employees in the unit is convicted of a felony related to the finances of the
labor organization, an employee in the unit is not required to pay to the labor
organization the portion of the employee's dues or fees that would otherwise be remitted
to the regional or national office.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4005. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4007:
1. Amend page 2, line 14, after "agent" by inserting:
"if the cost of the project is greater than or equal to the following:
(i) For a project that consists solely of new construction, $250,000.00.
(ii) For a project that does not consist solely of new construction, $75,000.00".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendment to HB 4007:
1. Amend page 2, line 14, after "agent" by inserting:
"if the cost of the project is equal to or greater than $150,000.00".
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4007:
1. Amend page 4, following line 26, by inserting:
"Sec. 9. The commissioner shall prepare a report that compares contracts for state
projects that were entered into after January 1, 2019 but before December 31, 2021 to
similar contracts for state projects that are entered into after the effective date of this
act but before 3 years after the effective date of this act. The report must include
comparisons of all of the following for each contract:
(a) The total number of construction mechanics employed.
(b) The total amount of wages paid to construction mechanics.
(c) The total cost of materials.
(d) The total number of safety incidents.
(e) The length of time to complete the state project.
(f) Whether the requirements of this act increased costs and, if so, by how much.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak offered the following amendment to HB 4007:
1. Amend page 4, following line 26, by inserting:
"Sec. 9. By 30 months after the effective date of this act, the commission shall submit a
report to the legislature about the impact of this act.
Sec. 10. This act does not apply 3 years after the effective date of this act.".
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Mueller offered the following amendment to HB 4007:
1. Amend page 4, following line 26, by inserting:
"Sec. 9. A contracting agent that is a local unit of government, public school, community
college, or university may exempt itself from the requirements of this act by a majority
vote of its governing body.".
Representative Mueller moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Mueller moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4007. The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Koleszar moved to report out HB 4004 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Reps. Wozniak, Kunse.
Pass: Rep. Mueller.
Representative O'Neal moved to report out HB 4005 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller.
Representative Churches moved to report out HB 4007 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-3-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Pass: None
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 10:37 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Clerk read in a letter from House Speaker Joe Tate appointing Representative Hoadley to
the House Tax Policy Committee and removing Representative Fink.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price,
VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: Rep. Markkanen.
Excused: Rep. Markkanen.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee the Treasury Presentation on Tax Structure and History
with Jeff Guilfoyle. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to excuse Representative Markkanen from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:55 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: March 15,
2023


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 12:30
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 101 (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Presentation from the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Due to Senate Session, the committee was delayed.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the meeting minutes from March 1, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Jenita Moore, of Sen. Anthony's office, to summarize SB 101.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 101:
Kris Kraft, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 101:
Rob Anderson, Farm Bureau – Support
Joseph Sullivan, Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services – Support
Dyck Van Koevering, Insurance Alliance of Michigan – Support
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to report SB 101 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for SB 101. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair invited Laura Appel, Executive Vice President of Government Relations and Public Policy for the
Michigan Health and Hospital Association, to give a presentation regarding Michigan's hospitals and health
systems.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:44 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: March 15, 2023
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evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. RICK OUTMAN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AND
EMERGENCY SERVICES
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Veterans and Emergency Services was scheduled for Wednesday, March
8, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation by Lindell Holm, Michigan Veterans Trust Fund.
2. Presentation by Adam Hollier, Michigan Veterans Affairs Agency.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:31 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adopt the meeting minutes from February 1, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to give the committee a presentation:
Lindell Holm, Michigan Veterans Trust Fund
Adam Hollier, Michigan Veterans Affairs Agency
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:13 a.m.
Date Adopted by the committee: 03/15/2023
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location: Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on Universities and Community Colleges submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., Room 1100, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators McCann (C), Irwin, McDonald Rivet, Albert and Damoose

Excused: Senator Singh


location: Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building

evidence_text:
The Appropriations Subcommittee on Agriculture and Natural Resources submitted the following:

Meeting held on Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 12:00 noon, Room 1300, Binsfeld Office Building

Present: Senators Cherry (C), Shink, Bumstead and Theis

Excused: Senator Singh