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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 5, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: Rep. Harris.
Excused: Rep. Harris.
Representative Breen joined the committee remotely.
Representative Scott moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 28, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 356 and SB 357 before the committee:
SB 356
(Sen. Hertel)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
2212a (MCL 500.2212a), as amended by 2016 PA
276.
SB 357
(Sen. Cavanagh)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
2213b (MCL 500.2213b), as amended by 2016 PA
276, and by adding section 2213e.
Representative Rogers moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 356 failed to be reported
on September 28th, 2023. The motion prevailed 9-0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative Rogers moved to report out SB 356 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative Young moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 357 failed to be reported on
September 28th, 2023. The motion prevailed 9-0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative Young moved to report out SB 357 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
The Chair laid HB 4740 and HB 5057 before the committee:
HB 4740
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 107c.
HB 5057
(Rep. Stone)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3107 (MCL 500.3107), as amended by 2019 PA
21.
Representative Farhat, Amy Zaagman, the Executive Director for the Michigan Council for
Maternal Child Health, and Sara Ismail, representing the Public Policy Associate for
ACCESS, testified in support of HB 4740. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4740, but did not wish to speak:
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Representative Stone and Parker Fisher, representing the Department of Insurance and
Financial Services, testified in support of HB 5057. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5057, but did not wish to speak:
Alex Houseman, representing the Big I of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5057, but did not wish to speak:
Michael Van Beek, the Director of Research for the Mackinac Center.
The chair laid before the committee a presentation from the Michigan Catastrophic Claims
Association.
Joseph Erhardt, the Assistant Executive Director for the MCCA, and KJ Miller, the General
Council for the MCCA, gave a presentation. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to excuse Representative Harris from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Representative Bezotte moved to
adjourn, Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the meeting at 10:22 AM.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, TOURISM AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION
REP. LAURIE POHUTSKY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 5, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Natural Resources, Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation
was called to order by Chair Pohutsky.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Shannon moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 28, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5028 before the committee:
HB 5028
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to invalidate certain provisions in
homeowners' association agreements that prohibit
the replacement, maintenance, installation, or
operation of certain energy-saving improvements
or modifications or the installation of solar energy
systems; to provide for the adoption of certain
policy statements; to prescribe penalties and
remedies; and to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state and local governmental officers
and entities.
Representative Puri testified in support of HB 5028. Questions and discussion followed.
Grace Michienzi, representing The Michigan Energy Innovation Business Council, testified
in support of HB 5028. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5028, but did not wish to speak:
John Fournier, representing the City of Ann Arbor.
John LaMacchia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Jane McCurry, representing Clean Fuels Michigan.
Charlotte Jameson, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club of Michigan.
Chris Semrinec, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Cory Bullis, representing FLO EV Charging.
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5028, but did not wish to speak:
Matthew Heron, representing the Community Associations Institute of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4325 before the committee:
HB 4325
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 8905a (MCL 324.8905a), as
amended by 2014 PA 549.
Chair Pohutsky offered the following amendments to HB 4325:
1. Amend page 4, line 1, after "group" by inserting a comma and "or village or township,".
2. Amend page 4, line 6, after "city" by inserting a comma and "village,".
3. Amend page 4, line 14 after "group" by inserting a comma and "or village or township,".
Chair Pohutsky moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4325. The motion prevailed 9-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Martin, Prestin, Schriver.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4325, but did not wish to speak:
John LaMacchia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club of Michigan.
Justin Tomei, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 4325 with recommendation, as amended. The
motion prevailed 7-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Shannon, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Schriver.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Pohutsky adjourned the meeting
at 11:04 AM.
Representative Laurie Pohutsky, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS SUBCOMMITTEE ON
HOUSING
REP. KEVIN COLEMAN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 5, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Economic Development and Small Business Subcommittee on Housing was
called to order by Chair Coleman.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou, Aragona,
Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 28, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4891 before the committee:
HB 4891
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 348, entitled "An act to
regulate relationships between landlords and
tenants relative to rental agreements for rental
units; to regulate the payment, repayment, use and
investment of security deposits; to provide for
commencement and termination inventories of
rental units; to provide for termination
arrangements relative to rental units; to provide
for legal remedies; and to provide penalties,"
(MCL 554.601 to 554.616) by amending the title
and by adding section 7a.
Representative Scott moved to refer HB 4891 to the Committee on Economic Development
and Small Business. The motion prevailed 7-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Aragona, Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4891, but did not wish to speak:
Heath Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Sexual and Domestic Violence.
Jesse Estrada White, representing Rent is Too Damn High.
MoReno Taylor II, representing Fund Michigan Future.
Monica Jahner, representing the NorthWest Initiative ARRO Advocacy.
Lisa Chapman, representing the Michigan Coalition Against Homelessness.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4891, but did not wish to speak:
John Lindley, representing the Michigan Manufactured Housing Association.
Jim Kirsch, representing the Property Management Association of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4919 before the committee:
HB 4919
(Rep. Dievendorf)
A bill to establish a bill of rights for the homeless;
and to provide a remedy for violation of those
rights.
Representative Dievendorf testified in support of HB 4919. Questions and discussion
followed.
Marsha Parrott-Boyle testified in support of HB 4919.
William Walker testified in support of HB 4919.
Kyle Richard, representing Rent is Too Damn High, testified in support of HB 4919.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4919, but did not wish to speak:
William Lawrence, representing Rent is Too Damn High.
Rowan Price.
Kelsey Brianne, representing Rent is Too Damn High and For Our Future.
Noah A. Hawkins, representing Rent is Too Damn High.
MoReno Taylor II, representing Fund Michigan Future.
Jesse Estrada White, representing Rent is Too Damn High.
Monica Jahner, representing the NorthWest Initiative ARRO Advocacy.
Lisa Chapman, representing the Michigan Coalition Against Homelessness.
The Chair laid HB 4878 before the committee:
HB 4878
(Rep. Aiyash)
An act to prohibit landlords from requiring certain
disclosures from certain applicants for rental units
or taking adverse actions against certain applicants
based on certain disclosures; to provide
exceptions; to require the promulgation of rules; to
provide remedies; to prescribe civil sanctions; and
to provide for the powers and duties of certain
state and local governmental officers and entities.
Representative Aiyash, joined by Dr. Niloufer Taber, representing the Vera Institute of
Justice, both testified in support of HB 4878. Questions and discussion followed.
Sheriff Chris Swanson, representing the Genesee County Sheriff’s Office, testified in support
of HB 4878.
Jessica Henry, representing Nation Outside, testified in support of HB 4878.
Jordan Else, representing Wessinger Properties, testified in support of HB 4878.
Megan Brooks, representing Avalon Housing, testified in support of HB 4878.
Gabriel Biber, representing Haven House, testified in support of HB 4878.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4878, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
William Walker.
William Lawrence, representing Rent is Too Damn High and Nation Outside.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4878, but did not wish to speak:
Karalyn Grimes, representing Neighbor to Felons.
Judy Karandjeff, representing the League of Women Voters of Michigan.
Heath Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence.
Trisha Washburn, representing Nation Outside and Rent is Too Damn High.
Jim Schaafsma, representing the Michigan Poverty Law Program.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Noah A. Hawkins, representing Rent is Too Damn High.
MoReno Taylor II, representing Fund Michigan Future.
Jesse Estrada White, representing Rent is Too Damn High.
Monica Jahner, representing the NorthWest Initiative ARRO Advocacy.
Lisa Chapman, representing the Michigan Coalition Against Homelessness.
Emme Zanotti, representing Equality Michigan.
Nancy Haynes, representing the Fair Housing Center of West Michigan.
Kelley Kellis, representing the Fair Housing Center of Southwest Michigan.
Catherine Distelrath, representing the Corporation for Supportive Housing.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4878, but did not wish to speak:
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan.
John Lindley, representing the Michigan Manufactured Housing Association.
Doug Merriam, representing Michigan Realtors.
Jim Kirsch, representing the Property Management Association of Michigan.
Forrest Wall, representing the Apartment Association of Michigan.
Erika Farley, representing the Rental Property Owners Association of Michigan.
Nate Love, representing the Consumer Data Industry Association.
Tim Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Businesses.
There being no further business before the subcommittee, Chair Coleman adjourned the
meeting at 11:59 AM.
Representative Kevin Coleman, Chair
Hazel Campbell-Crawley
Committee Clerk
hcrawley@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. ROGER HAUCK, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY AFFAIRS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 5, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Regulatory Affairs was scheduled for Thursday, October 5, 2023, at 9:15
a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 328 (S-1) (Sen. Hertel) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 466 (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4561 (Rep. Tullio Liberati) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:15 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck,
Webber, Lauwers and Bellino, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Polehanki to adopt the meeting minutes from September 14, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 328:
Kevin Sehlmeyer, State Fire Marshall – Support
Erika Sheffer, Carrier – Support
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 328. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck, Webber, Lauwers, and
Bellino.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to report the (S-1) version of SB 328 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck, Webber, and Bellino.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lauwers.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 466:
Mason Doerr, MLBA – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 466 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck, Webber, Lauwers, and
Bellino.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4561 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Polehanki, McCann, Wojno, Santana, Hertel, Hauck, Webber, Lauwers, and
Bellino.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:23 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 19, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR MALLORY MCMORROW
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2523
FAX: (517) 373-5669
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 5, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Community Development was scheduled for Thursday,
October 5, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4573 (S-1) (Rep. Carol Glanville) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:00 noon. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet,
Moss, Geiss, Lindsey and Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lindsey to adopt the meeting minutes from September 14, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4573:
Jami DeChenes, Michigan Chemistry Council – Support
David Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Polehanki to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4573. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet, Moss, Geiss, Lindsey, and
Webber.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report the (S-1) version of HB 4573 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet, Moss, Geiss, and Webber.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair made a motion to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection, Sen. Victory was
excused from the meeting.
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There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:03 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 12, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 5, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Thursday, October 5, 2023, at 2:00 p.m., in the
1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 519 (S-2) (Sen. Singh) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:02 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh, and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from September 21, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair offered an (S-2) version of SB 519.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 519. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
Nays: Sen. Albert
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair invited Sen. Singh to summarize the changes in the (S-2) version of SB 519.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 519:
Eli Isaguirre, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights – Support
Stephanie Johnson, UWUA – Support
Craig Wright, Michigan State Utility Workers Council – Support
Todd Cook, LEO – Support
Robert Joerg, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
Chris Semrinec, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Carlee Knott, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
Sean McBrearty, Clean Water Action – Support
Tim Minotas, Sierra Club – Support
Amanda Fisher, NFIB – Oppose
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report the (S-2) version of SB 519 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
Nays: Sen. Albert
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:16 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/12/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 5, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
October 5, 2023, at 12:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4644 (Rep. Hope).
2. Testimony regarding HB 4645 (Rep. Haadsma)
3. Testimony regarding HB 4646 (Rep. Haadsma)
4. Testimony regarding SB 410 (Sen. Irwin)
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:05 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from September 28, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB’s 4644 – 4646, and invited Rep. Hope to summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4644-4646:
James Spica, Probate & Estate Planning Section, State Bar of Michigan - Support
Christine Savage, Probate & Estate Planning Section, State Bar of Michigan – Support
Scott Teter, Elder Abuse Task Force, MI Department of the Attorney General – Support
Nicole Shannon, Michigan Elder Justice Initiative - Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4644-4646:
Alex Morris, MI Bankers – Support
Todd Tennis, Elder Law & Disability Rights Section – No Position
Kieran Marion, MI Credit Union League – Support
The Chair brought up SB 410, and invited Sen. Irwin to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 410:
Eli Savit, Washtenaw County Prosecutor – Support
Hank Greenspan, Citizen – Support
Cary Silverman, American Tort Reform Association – Oppose
Dunya Barash, Families Against Narcotics – Support
Tiffany Ellis, MI Association of Justice – Support
Jason Evans, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
Sean Bennett, Citizen - Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB 410:
Peter Fotos, Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America – Oppose
Todd Tennis, Negligence Law Section State Bar of MI – Support
Carlos Gutierrez, Consumer Health Products Association – Oppose
Stephen Rapundalo, MichBio – Oppose
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Oppose
Adam Carlson, MI Health & Hospital Association – Support
Bruce Timmons, Citizen – Support
Lilly Melander, BIO – Oppose
Kristine Shearer, Michigan Association of Health Plans - Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:58 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/12/23


location: Room 519, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 10, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Young moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4917 and HB 4918 before the committee:
HB 4917
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 16d
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.16d), as amended by
2016 PA 88.
HB 4918
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," (MCL 750.1 to 750.568) by
adding section 81g.
Representative Steckloff testified in support of HB 4917 and HB 4918. Questions and
discussion followed.
Donald Roach, representing SMART - Transportation Division, testified in support of HB
4917 and HB 4918. Questions and discussion followed.
BJ Trumble, representing BLET – IBT, testified in support of HB 4917 and HB 4918.
Questions and discussion followed.
Nate Hatton, representing SMART - Transportation Division, testified in support of HB 4917
and HB 4918. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4917 and HB 4918, but did not wish
to speak:
Todd Tennis, representing The Amalgamated Transit Union.
The Chair laid HB 5017 before the committee:
HB 5017
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to amend 1953 PA 232, entitled
"Corrections code of 1953," by amending section
83 (MCL 791.283), as amended by 2016 PA 344.
Representative O'Neal testified in support of HB 5017. Questions and discussion followed.
Kyle Kaminski and Matthew Boak, both representing the Michigan Department of
Corrections, testified in support of HB 5017. Questions and discussion followed.
Nate Johnson, representing the Fresh Coast Alliance, testified in support of HB 5017.
Angie Sparks, representing Michigan Works West Central, testified in support of HB 5017.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5017, but did not wish to speak:
Noah Smith, representing Safe and Just Michigan.
Noah Smith, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 5046 before the committee:
HB 5046
(Rep. Shannon)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section 2543
(MCL 600.2543), as amended by 2004 PA 328.
Representative Shannon testified in support of HB 5046. Questions and discussion followed.
Amy Shankleton – Novess, representing herself, testified in support of HB 5046. Questions
and discussion followed.
Kristen Shankleton, representing the Michigan Electronic Court Reporters, testified in
support of HB 5046. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5046, but did not wish
to speak:
Trevor VanDyke, representing the State Court Administrative Office.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5046, but did not wish to speak:
Samantha Gibson, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
The Chair laid HB 4850 before the committee:
HB 4850
(Rep. Glanville)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section
1307a (MCL 600.1307a), as amended by 2020 PA
307.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4850, but did not wish
to speak:
Trevor VanDyke, representing the State Court Administrative Office.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4850. The motion prevailed 13-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report out HB 4850 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou, Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4948 and HB 4960 before the committee:
HB 4948
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 348, entitled "An act to
regulate relationships between landlords and
tenants relative to rental agreements for rental
units; to regulate the payment, repayment, use and
investment of security deposits; to provide for
commencement and termination inventories of
rental units; to provide for termination
arrangements relative to rental units; to provide
for legal remedies; and to provide penalties,"
(MCL 554.601 to 554.616) by amending the title
and by adding section 2a.
HB 4960
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 453, entitled "Elliott-
Larsen civil rights act," by amending section 205a
(MCL 37.2205a), as amended by 1999 PA 202.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4948 and HB 4960, but did not wish
to speak:
Noah Smith, representing Safe and Just Michigan.
Noah Smith, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4948, but did not wish to speak:
Forrest Wall, representing the Apartment Association of Michigan.
Jim Schaafsma, representing the Michigan Poverty Law Program.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4960, but did not wish to speak:
Alex Morris, representing the Michigan Bankers Association.
Representative Dievendorf moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4948. The motion
prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 4948 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Young moved to report out HB 4960 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Breen, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
10:02 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 10, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative DeBoyer moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4981 before the committee:
HB 4981
(Rep. BeGole)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending section 191 (MCL
168.191), as amended by 2018 PA 120.
Rick Briand, representing the The Committee to Elect Rick Briand, testified in opposition to
HB 4981. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to , but did not wish to speak:
Bill Richardson, representing Pure Integrity Michigan Elections.
Representative Hope moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4981. The motion prevailed 6-0-
2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Representative Koleszar moved to report out HB 4981 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 5-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Rep. Wegela.
Pass: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 10:45 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND SENIORS
REP. STEPHANIE A. YOUNG
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 10, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Families, Children and Seniors was called to order by Chair Young.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox,
Johnsen, Thompson.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative MacDonell moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4547 before the committee:
HB 4547
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1887 PA 128, entitled "An act
establishing the minimum ages for contracting
marriages; to require a civil license in order to
marry and its registration; to provide for the
implementation of federal law; and to provide a
penalty for the violation of this act," by amending
section 3 (MCL 551.103), as amended by 2006 PA
578.
Representative Snyder, Karen Buie, representing the Muskegon County Clerks, and Lindsay
Oswald, representing the St. Joseph County Clerks and the Michigan Association of County
Clerks, testified in support of HB 4547. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4547, but did not wish
to speak:
Samantha Gibson, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
The Chair laid a presentation by the Office of Children's Ombudsman before the committee.
Ryan Speidel, representing the Office of Children's Ombudsman, gave an overview
presentation of the office. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Young adjourned the meeting at
1:04 PM.
Representative Stephanie A. Young, Chair
Legan Rose
Acting Committee Clerk
lrose@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY REFORM
REP. TYRONE CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 10, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Regulatory Reform was called to order by Chair Tyrone Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Bierlein moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4048 before the committee:
HB 4048
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 239, entitled "McCauley-
Traxler-Law-Bowman-McNeely lottery act," by
amending section 25 (MCL 432.25), as amended
by 1998 PA 465.
Representative Liberati moved to report out HB 4048 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein, Neyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4965 before the committee:
HB 4965
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 2006 PA 480, entitled "Uniform
video services local franchise act," by amending
section 1 (MCL 484.3301).
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4965, but did not wish to speak:
Hamlin Wade, representing the DIRECTV.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4965, but did not wish to speak:
Ian Locke, representing the ONTV-MICMA.
Tom Norton, representing the WKN.
Mike Watza, representing the PROTEC.
Representative Filler moved to report out HB 4965 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 14-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Liberati, Neeley, Scott, Young, Grant, McFall, Snyder,
Wilson, Mueller, Filler, Wendzel, Aragona, Bierlein.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. Neyer.
At 10:34 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:37 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4613 and HB 4614 before the committee:
HB 4613
(Rep. Prestin)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 20952 (MCL
333.20952), as added by 1990 PA 179.
HB 4614
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 20952a.
Representative Prestin and Representative Fitzgerald testified in support of HB 4613 and HB
4614. Questions and discussion followed.
Angela Madden representing the Michigan Association of Ambulance Services testified in
support of HB 4613 and HB 4614.
Chardae Burton and Emily Bergquist representing the Michigan Department of Health and
Human Services testified in support of HB 4613 and HB 4614.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4613 and HB 4614, but did not wish
to speak:
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Michigan Association of Fire Chiefs.
At 10:53 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 11:09 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4885 and HB 4923 before the committee:
HB 4885
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 21907, 21909,
21911, 21913, 21915, 21919, 21921, and 21923
(MCL 333.21907, 333.21909, 333.21911,
333.21913, 333.21915, 333.21919, 333.21921,
and 333.21923), sections 21907, 21909, 21913,
21915, 21919, 21921, and 21923 as added by
2017 PA 172 and section 21911 as amended by
2022 PA 79, and by adding sections 21912, 21916,
21918, and 21920.
HB 4923
(Rep. Aragona)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 21903 and
21905 (MCL 333.21903 and 333.21905), as added
by 2017 PA 172.
Representative McKinney and Representative Aragona testified in support of HB 4885 and
HB 4923.
Rich Farran, Health Care Association of Michigan; Michelle Berryman, representing
Medilodge; and Jennifer Root, representing SEIU Michigan testified in support of HB 4885
and HB 4923. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4885 and HB 4923, but did not wish
to speak:
Dalton Herbel, representing the Leading Age Michigan.
Dian Palmer, representing the SEIU Healthcare Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4885 and HB 4923, but did not
wish to speak:
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Steven Rzeppa, representing the AFSCME Council 25.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tyrone Carter adjourned the
meeting at 11:28 AM.
Representative Tyrone Carter, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: October 24,
2023


location: Room 521, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 10, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4028 before the committee:
HB 4028
(Rep. Zorn)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 722 (MCL
257.722), as amended by 2018 PA 274.
Representative Outman explained the proposed substitute (H-2) to HB 4028.
Representative Roth moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4028. The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse moved to report out HB 4028 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4028 (H-2), but did not wish to speak:
Ed Noyola, representing the County Road Association of Michigan.
Bill Zaagman, representing the Michigan Towing Association.
The Chair laid HB 5103 before the committee:
HB 5103
(Rep. McKinney)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending sections 303 and 304
(MCL 257.303 and 257.304), section 303 as
amended by 2020 PA 376 and section 304 as
amended by 2023 PA 125.
Representative McKinney, joined by Judge Derek Meineke, representing the Michigan District
Judges Association, both testified in support of HB 5103. Questions and discussion followed.
Erin Schor and Melissa Horste, both representing the Michigan Department of State, joined by
Precious Kelly, all testified in support of HB 5103.
Kenneth Dandridge, Andrew Smith, Bryant Gary, Monique Pickens, and Alannah Pickens, all
representing Change Me Works, testified in support of HB 5103. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5103, but did not wish to speak:
Judge Kim Wiegand, representing the Michigan District Judges Association.
The Chair laid HB 5056 and HB 5058 before the committee:
HB 5056
(Rep. Miller)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," (MCL 257.1 to 257.923) by adding
section 811hh.
HB 5058
(Rep. Bierlein)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," (MCL 257.1 to 257.923) by adding
section 811gg.
Representative Bierlein and Representative Miller both testified in support of HB 5056 and HB
5058.
Associate Director Dr. Deanna East, representing Michigan State University Extension, joined by
Director Dr. Abbey Miller, representing the Michigan 4-H Foundation, both testified in support
of HB 5056 and HB 5058.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5056 and HB 5058, but did
not wish to speak:
Melissa Horste, representing the Michigan Department of State.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5056 and HB 5058, but did not wish to
speak:
Andrew Vermeesch, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting at
11:43 AM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR JEFF IRWIN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2406
FAX: (517) 373-5679
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 10, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Housing and Human Services was scheduled for Tuesday, October 10,
2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4273 (S-3) (Rep. O'Neal) with recommendation.
2. Testimony regarding SB 474 (Sen. Anthony).
3. Testimony regarding SB 475 (Sen. Chang).
4. Testimony regarding SB 476 (Sen. Geiss).
5. Testimony regarding SB 477 (Sen. Cavanagh).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:16 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss,
Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-3) version of HB 4273.
The following cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB
4273:
Kyle Richard, The Rent is Too Damn High – Support
Aaron Mahoney, For Our Future and The Rent is Too Damn High – Support
Sarah Hopkins, The Rent is Too Damn High – Support
Forrest Wall, Apartment Association of Michigan – Support
Erika Farley, Rental Property Owners Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the (S-3) version of HB 4273. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey, and
Damoose
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Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Hoitenga
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report the (S-3) version of HB 4273 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga,
and Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Hoitenga requested that the vote to report the (S-3) version of HB 4273 be reconsidered.
The Chair made a motion to reconsider the vote by which the (S-3) version of HB 4273 was reported. Without
objection, the vote was reconsidered.
The Chair made a motion to report the (S-3) version of HB 4273 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey, and
Damoose
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Hoitenga
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Sen.(s) Anthony, Chang, Geiss, and Cavanagh to summarize SB 474 – SB 477.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 474 to SB 477:
Dr. Halley Crissman, Michigan Section of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists –
Support
Dr. Sarah Wallet, Planned Parenthood of Michigan – Support
Amanda Mazur, Citizen – Support
Rebecca Mastee, Michigan Catholic Conference – Oppose
Genevieve Marnon, Right to Life of Michigan – Oppose
Dr. Catherine Stark, Crossroads Care Center – Oppose
Dr. Lisa Harris, Citizen – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 474 to SB
477:
Eileen McNeil, Citizens for Traditional Values – Oppose
Katherine Bussard, Citizen – Oppose
The following cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB
474 to SB 477:
DJ Perry, Planned Parents Advocates of Michigan – Support
Ryan Hoaglin-Jackson, Citizen – Support
Emily Bourguois, Planned Parenthood – Support
Ashlea Phenicie, Planned Parenthood of Michigan – Support
Gabriela Shen, Citizen – Support
Chashah Johnson, Citizen – Support
Alexa Williamson, Planned Parenthood – Support
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Amy Zaagman, Michigan Council for Maternal and Child Health – Support
Norma Bailey, Citizen – Support
Nomi Joyrich, Jews for a Secular Democracy – Support
Chardae Burton, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services – Support
Judy Karandjeff, League of Women Voters of Michigan – Support
Julie Campbell-Bode, Citizen – Support
Hannah Mathers, Citizen – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Merissa Kovach, ACLU of Michigan – Support
Mary Pollock, Michigan National Organization for Women and the American Association of University
Women of Michigan – Support
Adrienne Zaya, YWCA Kalamazoo – Support
Jeff Hewson, Michigan Family Forum – Oppose
Melissa Holmquist, Citizen – Oppose
Fred Gerhardy, Citizen – Oppose
Stephanie Kreuz, Heritage Action – Oppose
Hennessey Bevins, Coalition to Protect a Women's Right to Know – Oppose
The following cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB
474 to SB 476:
Alex Dietz, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan and Ypsilanti Art Ink and Art Incubator – Support
Terri Lukomski, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan and Meadow Lane Rehabilitative Therapies –
Support
Katherine Bauer, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Sarah Zettel, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Harrison Shelby, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Sara Wojtala, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Sarah Tomai, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Dr. Clara Zundel, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Sujata Raman, Reproductive Freedom for All Michigan – Support
Ethyl Rivera, Citizen – Support
Wendy Gonzalez, Citizen – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:49 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 17, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
SENATOR DAYNA POLEHANKI
CHAIR
310 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7350
FAX: (517) 373-9228
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 10, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education was scheduled for Tuesday, October 10, 2023, at 1:30 p.m., in
the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 518 (Sen. Camilleri) with recommendation.
2. Testimony regarding SB 395 (Sen. Polehanki) and SB 396 (Sen. McDonald Rivet).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose
and Johnson, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 518:
Dr. David Michelson, Michigan Education Association – Support
Beth DeShone, GLEP Education Fund – Support
Alicia Urbain, MAPSA – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report SB 518 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose, and Johnson.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the (S-3) version of SB 395. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose, and Johnson.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 395 and SB 396:
Sens. Dayna Polehanki and Kristen McDonald Rivet – Support
Bob Kefgen, Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals – Support
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Sheryl Kennedy, Michigan Department of Education – No Position
Lakia Wilson-Lumpkins, Jason Posey, and Meredith Summer, Detroit Federation of Teachers – Support
Matt Scheuller, Michigan Association of Superintendents and Administrators – Opposition
Kathi Martin, Dearborn Federation of Teachers – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 395:
Tammy Daenzer, Michigan Education Association – Support
Jeff Donahue, White Shneider PC – Support
Megan Ake, Fenton Education Association – Support
Ryan Ridenour, West Bloomfield School District – Support
Leah Porter, Holt Education Association – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 395:
Edward Clements, Bay City Education Association – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 395 and SB
396:
Mike Latvis and Kelly Bohl, Wayne RESA – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 395 and
SB 396:
Paul Liabenow, MEMPSA – Support
Molly Macek, Mackinac Center – Opposition
Beth DeShone, GLEP Education Fund – Opposition
Jeff Cobb, The Education Trust Midwest – Opposition
Jenell Mansfield, AFT Michigan – Support
Kaci Pellar and Connor McNeely, Detroit Disability Power – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 395:
David Randels, Oakland Schools – Opposition
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:15 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/17/23
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MEMBERS:
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE
SENATOR ERIKA GEISS
CHAIR
5500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7800
FAX: (517) 373-9310
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 10, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was scheduled for Tuesday, October
10, 2023, at 3:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 533 (Sen. Geiss) with recommendation.
2. Testimony regarding HB 4515 (Rep. Hill).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:34 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann,
Bellino, McBroom, Victory, and Bumstead, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to adopt the meeting minutes from October 3, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to report SB 533 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Rep. Hill to summarize HB 4515.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4515:
Karen Middendorp, Michigan Snowmobile and ORV Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4515:
Amanda Arnold, Michigan Department of Natural Resources – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:51 p.m.
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Date Adopted by Committee: October 24, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN CHERRY, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. KEVIN DALEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
AND AGRICULTURE
SENATOR SUE SHINK
CHAIR
4200 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2426
FAX: (517) 373-2964
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 10, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Natural Resources and Agriculture was scheduled for Tuesday, October
10, 2023, at 3:30 p.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 411 (Sen. Lauwers), SB 412 (Sen. Hertel), SB 413 (Sen. Cherry) and SB 414
(Sen. Cherry).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:31 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Shink, Sen.(s) Cherry, Singh, Polehanki, Daley, Victory and Hoitenga, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Senators Lauwers and Cherry to testify on Senate Bills 411, 412, 413 and 414. Member
questions followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 411, SB 412, SB 413 and SB
414:
John Carlo, Northville Downs – Support
Tom Barrett, Michigan Harness Horsemen Assoc., – Support
Bee Friedlander, Attorneys for Animals – Opposition
Byron Shunk, MI Thoroughbred Assoc – Support
Joyce Janicky, resident – Opposition
John Schut, MEFA – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 411, SB
412, SB 413 and SB 414:
Michael Alaimo, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
John Shagonaby, Gun Lake Tribe – Opposition
Jim Parinello, Teamsters Local 337 – Support
Matt Breslin, Hollywood Casino at Greektown – Opposition
Mike McCoy, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians – Opposition
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Louie Thoros, MGM – Opposition
Whitney Greville, Bay Mills Indian Community – Opposition
Cheryl Scott- Dube, Motor City Casino – Opposition
Brendan Ringlever, Huron Band of Potwatomi – Opposition
Jasmine Tompkins, MI Gaming Control Board – Opposition
John Currie, MEFA – Support
Plymouth Township Residents, Plymouth Twp residents – Opposition
Brian Neilsen, MSU Dept of Animal Science – Support
Sylvia Renteria, MDARD – Opposition
Erik Rodriguez, Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe – Opposition
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:31 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 17, 2023
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
REP. REGGIE MILLER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Agriculture was called to order by Chair Miller.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans,
Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4857 and HB 4011 before the committee:
HB 4857
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1941 PA 359, entitled "An act for
controlling and eradicating certain noxious weeds
within the state; to permit townships, villages, and
cities to have a lien for expenses incurred in
controlling and eradicating such weeds; to permit
officials of counties and municipalities to appoint
commissioners of noxious weeds; to define the
powers, duties, and compensation of
commissioners; to provide for sanctions; and to
repeal certain acts and parts of acts," by amending
section 2 (MCL 247.62), as amended by 2010 PA
358.
HB 4011
(Rep. Neyer)
A bill to amend 1974 PA 154, entitled "Michigan
occupational safety and health act," by amending
section 35 (MCL 408.1035), as amended by 1991
PA 105.
Representative Neyer and Ben Tirrell, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau, testified in
support of HB 4011. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 4857 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Miller, Paiz, Stone, Young, Coffia, Dievendorf, Fitzgerald, Rheingans,
Neyer, VanderWall, Roth, Bierlein, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Miller adjourned the meeting at
9:19 AM.
Representative Reggie Miller, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. ANGELA WITWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11,
2023
9:00
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Witwer.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson, Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh,
Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn, Schuette, Steele.
Absent: Rep. Weiss.
Excused: Rep. Weiss.
Representative O'Neal moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 20, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Lightner moved to excuse Representative Weiss from the meeting. There being
no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 331 before the committee:
SB 331
(Sen. Hertel)
A bill to amend 1893 PA 206, entitled "The
general property tax act," by amending sections
9o, 19, and 30 (MCL 211.9o, 211.19, and 211.30),
section 9o as amended by 2021 PA 150, section 19
as amended by 2017 PA 261, and section 30 as
amended by 2013 PA 153.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association, joined by Deena Bosworth,
representing the Michigan Municipal League, both testified in support of SB 331. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 331, but did not wish to speak:
Rob Moss, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
At 9:14 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:24 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Lightner offered the following amendments to SB 331:
1. Amend page 5, line 24, after the first "of" by striking out "1.25%" and inserting "1%".
2. Amend page 6, line 2, by striking out "1.25%" and inserting "1%".
3. Amend page 6, line 6, after "of" by striking out "1.25%" and inserting "1%".
4. Amend page 6, line 28, after "of" by striking out "1.25%" and inserting "1%".
5. Amend page 7, line 6, after the first "of" by striking out "1.25%" and inserting "1%".
6. Amend page 7, line 11, by striking out "1.25%" and inserting "1%".
Representative Lightner moved to adopt the amendments to SB 331. The motion did not prevail
12-16-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Nays: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Pass: None.
Representative Mentzer moved to report out SB 331 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
20-3-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson, Green, Borton, Cavitt, Steele.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Schuette.
Pass: Reps. Slagh, Beson, Fink, DeBoer, Kuhn.
The Chair laid SB 507 before the committee:
SB 507
(Sen. Anthony)
A bill to amend 1964 PA 284, entitled "City
income tax act," by amending sections 6 and 9 of
chapter 1 and sections 3, 73, 84, 85, 86a, 86b, 86c,
91, 92, and 93 of chapter 2 (MCL 141.506,
141.509, 141.603, 141.673, 141.684, 141.685,
141.686a, 141.686b, 141.686c, 141.691, 141.692,
and 141.693), section 6 of chapter 1 as amended
and sections 86a, 86b, and 86c of chapter 2 as
added by 2018 PA 456 and section 9 of chapter 1
as added and sections 3, 73, 84, 85, 92, and 93 of
chapter 2 as amended by 1996 PA 478, and by
adding section 92a to chapter 2.
Representative Morse moved to report out SB 507 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
16-12-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 507, but did not wish to speak:
Rob Moss, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to SB 507, but did not wish to speak
Tom Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The Chair laid SB 511 before the committee:
SB 511
(Sen. McCann)
A bill to amend 1980 PA 300, entitled "The public
school employees retirement act of 1979," by
amending section 41 (MCL 38.1341), as amended
by 2022 PA 220.
Representative Martus moved to report out SB 511 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
18-1-9:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson, Slagh, DeBoer.
Nays: Rep. Steele.
Pass: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, Kuhn, Schuette.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 511, but did not wish to speak:
Fred Schaible, representing Western Michigan University.
Deanna Hemmila, representing Northern Michigan University.
Chad Wing, representing Eastern Michigan University.
Dan Eichinger, representing Ferris State University.
Megan Morris, representing Central Michigan University.
Bill Kordenbrock, representing Michigan Technological University.
The Chair laid SB 508 before the committee:
SB 508
(Sen. Hertel)
A bill to amend 2003 PA 198, entitled "Farm
produce insurance act," by amending section 7
(MCL 285.317), as amended by 2016 PA 264.
Representative Snyder moved to report out SB 508 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
16-12-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid SB 506 before the committee:
SB 506
(Sen. Klinefelt)
A bill to amend 2000 PA 92, entitled "Food law,"
by amending sections 3119, 4103, and 4117 (MCL
289.3119, 289.4103, and 289.4117), sections 3119
and 4103 as amended by 2018 PA 92 and section
4117 as amended by 2012 PA 178.
Representative Steckloff moved to report out SB 506 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 16-12-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid SB 510 before the committee:
SB 510
(Sen. Cavanagh)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 141, entitled "Grain
dealers act," by amending section 6 (MCL
285.66), as amended by 2002 PA 80.
Representative Skaggs moved to report out SB 510 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
16-12-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Puri, Steckloff, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Wilson.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Witwer adjourned the meeting at
9:32 AM.
Representative Angela Witwer, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Coleman joined the committee remotely.
Representative Churches moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 20, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123 before the committee:
HB 5120
(Rep. Aiyash)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
(MCL 460.1001 to 460.1211) by amending the
title and by adding part 8.
HB 5121
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 2006 PA 110, entitled "Michigan
zoning enabling act," by amending section 205
(MCL 125.3205), as amended by 2018 PA 366.
HB 5122
(Rep. Skaggs)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
(MCL 460.1001 to 460.1211) by amending the
title and by adding part 8.
HB 5123
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 2006 PA 110, entitled "Michigan
zoning enabling act," by amending section 205
(MCL 125.3205), as amended by 2018 PA 366.
Representative Aiyash, Representative Puri and Representative Skaggs testified in support of
HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123. Questions and discussion followed.
Dan Scripps, Chair, representing the Michigan Public Service Commission, testified in
support of HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123. Questions and discussion followed.
Ed Rivet, representing the Conservative Energy Forum, testified in support of HB 5120, HB
5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Justin Carpenter, representing EIBC; and Scott Viciana representing Ventower Industries;
testified in support of HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association, testified in opposition to HB
5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123. Questions and discussion followed.
Karol Sanborn, a resident of Lebanon Township, testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB
5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Clara and Aaron Ostrander, residents of Milan Township, testified in support of HB 5120, HB
5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
Representative Joseph Fox testified in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123.
Robert Jeorg, representing the Michigan Laborers District Council, testified in support of HB
5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB 5123.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Ashlyn Newell, a Maple Valley Township resident.
Don Smucker, a Stanton resident.
Dick Farnsworth, a Grand Rapids resident.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123, but due to the time constraints were unable to speak:
Representative Greg Alexander, representing the 98th House District.
John LaMacchia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Chris Arndt, representing Oneida Charter Township.
Kathleen Defever, a resident of Fulton Township.
Mark Fosdick, representing Cohoctah Township.
Pamela Reed, a Michigan resident.
Madeline Fata and Deena Bosworth, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Steve Weiss, representing Conway Township.
David Karczynski, a Michigan resident.
Kelli Case, a Michigan resident.
Stephanie Hester, a Barry County resident.
Robert Scott, a Montcalm County resident.
Dr. Wanda Iza, representing Ingham County Citizens United.
Sandra Tannehill, a Michigan resident.
Michael Hoover, a Laingsburg resident.
Kevon Martis, Robert Scott and Pam Reed, representing Our Home, Our Voice.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5120, but did not wish to speak:
Shane Hernandez, representing ABC of Michigan.
Chuck Lippstreu, representing Michigan Agri-Business Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123, but did not wish to speak:
Theresa Owen, representing Clinton County, Greenbush Township, Clinton County
Citizens United.
Ken Wieber, a Fowler resident.
Val Vail-Shirey, a Clinton County Commissioner.
Barbara Culham, representing Wheatfield Township.
Kevin Murphy, representing Montcalm County.
Rosemary Murphy, representing Winfield Township.
Cynthia Twichell, representing Barry County.
Jessica Kwekel, representing Montcalm County/Cato Township residents.
Shelly Lake, representing Barry County.
Diane Hulett, a Michigan resident.
Melissa Gallop, a Michigan resident.
Joann Haas, representing Cohoctah Township.
Andrew Vermeesch, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Peter Psarouthakis, representing the Clinton County Planning Commission.
Harold Defever, representing Fulton Township.
Jeremy Kwekel, representing Montcalm County.
Lisa Brown, a Michigan Resident.
Mike Brown, a Michigan resident.
Rob Porter, representing Conway Township.
Lisa Cook-Gordon, a Michigan resident.
Tim Langholz, representing the NFIB.
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Kelly Turner, representing the Potato Growers of Michigan.
Jason Hayes, representing the Mackinac Center.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5120, HB 5121, HB 5122 and HB
5123, but did not wish to speak:
Derrell Slaughter, representing the National Resources Defense Council.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club.
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Utility Worker Union of America.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Erika Kowall, representing American Clean Power.
Eli Isaguille, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights.
Peder Mewis, representing the Clean Grid Alliance.
Matt Sowash, representing the Solar Energy Industry Association.
Barry Szczesny, representing Savion LLC.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
10:29 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


location: Room 307, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
REP. TULLIO LIBERATI
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Committee on Government Operations was called to order by Chair Liberati.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall, Posthumus, Greene.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative McFall moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4942 before the committee:
HB 4942
(Rep. Dievendorf)
A bill to authorize the state administrative board to
convey state-owned property in Ingham County to
the house of representatives; to prescribe
conditions for the conveyance; to provide for
powers and duties of state agencies and
departments concerning the property and the
conveyance; and to provide for disposition of
revenue derived from the conveyance.
Representative Dievendorf testified in support of HB 4942. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4942, but did not wish
to speak:
Niel DeSouza, representing the Michigan Department of Technology, Management and
Budget.
Representative Pohutsky moved to report out HB 4942 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
The Chair laid HB 4720 and HB 4721 before the committee:
HB 4720
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to provide for the statewide coordination of
equal language access to state services by
individuals with limited English proficiency; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to establish
a process for submitting complaints and obtaining
remedies for lack of equal language access and for
denials of equal access based on one's national
origin.
HB 4721
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to facilitate access to state services by
individuals with limited English proficiency; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to provide
for biennial reports concerning equal language
access.
Representatives Fitzgerald and Puri testified in support of HBs 4720 and 4721. Questions and
discussion followed.
Henry Duong, representing Rising Voices, testified in support of HBs 4720 and 4721.
Elinor Jordan, representing Michigan Immigrant Rights Center, testified in support of HBs
4720 and 4721.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4720 and HB 4721, but did not wish
to speak:
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League of Public Policy.
Connor McNeely, representing the Detroit Disability Power.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Liberati adjourned the meeting
at 12:27 PM.
Representative Tullio Liberati, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION
REP. CAROL GLANVILLE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Higher Education was called to order by Chair Glanville.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell,
Paiz, VanderWall, Paquette, Zorn, Bruck, DeSana.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5097 before the committee:
HB 5097
(Rep. Hill)
A bill to create a grant program to assist certain
public institutions of higher education in
addressing student hunger at those institutions; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to require
the promulgation of rules.
Representative Hill and Julia Ruth, representing Swipe Out Hunger, testified in support of
HB 5097. Questions and discussion followed.
Carmel Price, Associate Professor at the University of Michigan-Dearborn, testified in
support of HB 5097. Questions and discussion followed.
Spencer Good, Olivia Heath, and Aditi Kulkarni, representing the Spartan Food Security
Council, testified in support of HB 5097.
Sandy Gregory, Assistant to the Dean of Student Success and Pantry Manager at the Student
Food Pantry at Grand Rapids Community College, and Lisa Freiberger, Grand Rapids
Community College Vice President of Finance and Administration, testified in support of HB
5097.
Mary Brundage, Associate Dean of Students at Northern Michigan University, testified in
support of HB 5097.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5097, but did not wish to speak:
Connor McNeely, representing the Detroit Disability Power.
Madison Mogg, representing the Student Food Security Council.
Grace Beem, representing the Spartan Food Security Council.
Jay Lyon, representing the Spartan Food Security Council.
Anton Akroush, representing the Spartan Food Security Council.
The Chair laid HB 4816 and HB 4844 before the committee:
HB 4816
(Rep. Wilson)
A bill to prohibit high schools and certain athletic
organizations from preventing high school student
athletes in this state from receiving compensation
for the use of their name, image, or likeness rights.
HB 4844
(Rep. Witwer)
A bill to amend 2020 PA 366, entitled "An act to
prohibit postsecondary educational institutions in
this state and certain athletic organizations from
preventing a college athlete from receiving
compensation for the use of his or her name,
image, or likeness rights," by amending sections 3,
5, 7, and 10 (MCL 390.1733, 390.1735, 390.1737,
and 390.1740).
A Substitute (H-3) was adopted for HB 4816 at the October 4th, 2023 meeting.
A Substitute (H-1) was adopted for HB 4844 at the October 4th, 2023 meeting.
Representative Scott moved to adopt substitute (H-4) to HB 4816. The motion prevailed 9-1-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell, Paiz.
Nays: Rep. Zorn.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Paquette, Bruck, DeSana.
Representative Koleszar moved to report out HB 4816 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-4). The motion prevailed 9-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell, Paiz.
Nays: Reps. Paquette, Zorn.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Bruck, DeSana.
Representative MacDonell moved to report out HB 4844 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 11-2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Glanville, Rheingans, Koleszar, Scott, Byrnes, Coffia, Hill, MacDonell, Paiz,
VanderWall, DeSana.
Nays: Reps. Paquette, Zorn.
Pass: Rep. Bruck.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Glanville adjourned the meeting
at 11:32 AM.
Representative Carol Glanville, Chair
Nicholas Gewirtz
Committee Clerk
ngewirtz@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: Rep. Arbit.
Excused: Rep. Arbit.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Hoskins moved to excuse Representative Arbit from the meeting. There being
no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 248 before the committee:
SB 248
(Sen. Lauwers)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section
2163a (MCL 600.2163a), as amended by 2018 PA
343.
Josh Skrzypczck, from Senator Lauwers' Office, testified in support of SB 248.
Bob Carmack, representing himself, testified with a neutral position on SB 248.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 248. The motion prevailed
12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Fink moved to report out SB 248 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4913 before the committee:
HB 4913
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 7214 (MCL
333.7214), as amended by 2018 PA 107.
At 11:03 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 11:04 AM, Majority Vice Chair Edwards called the committee back to order.
Chair Breen testified in support of HB 4913. Questions and discussion followed.
At 11:09 AM, Majority Vice Chair Edwards laid the committee at ease.
At 11:10 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Tony Buffa, representing the Oakland County Sheriff's Office, testified in support of HB
4913. Questions and discussion followed.
Cindy Brown, representing the Oakland County Prosecuting Attorney, testified in support of
HB 4913.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4913, but did not wish to speak:
Meghann Keit-Corrion, representing the Michigan Association of Treatment Court
Professionals.
Gabe Basso, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card with no position on HB 4913, but did not wish to
speak:
Matt Breslin, representing the Michigan Veterinary Medical Association.
The Chair laid HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047 before the committee:
HB 4909
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5104, 5106, 5310, 5313, and 5409 (MCL
700.5104, 700.5106, 700.5310, 700.5313, and
700.5409), section 5106 as amended by 2017 PA
136, section 5310 as amended by 2000 PA 54,
section 5313 as amended by 2012 PA 545, and
section 5409 as amended by 2000 PA 463, and by
adding section 5106a.
HB 4910
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5305, 5314, 5406, 5417, and 5418 (MCL
700.5305, 700.5314, 700.5406, 700.5417, and
700.5418), section 5305 as amended by 2017 PA
155, section 5314 as amended by 2018 PA 594,
section 5406 as amended by 2000 PA 464, and
sections 5417 and 5418 as amended by 2000 PA
312, and by adding section 5314a.
HB 4911
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5303, 5304, 5306, 5306a, 5312, and 5416 (MCL
700.5303, 700.5304, 700.5306, 700.5306a,
700.5312, and 700.5416), section 5303 as
amended by 2017 PA 155, section 5306 as
amended by 2019 PA 170, section 5306a as added
by 2012 PA 173, and section 5312 as amended by
2000 PA 54.
HB 4912
(Rep. Borton)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending sections
5414 and 5415 (MCL 700.5414 and 700.5415) and
by adding section 5312a.
HB 5047
(Rep. Coffia)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending section
5106 (MCL 700.5106), as amended by 2017 PA
136, and by adding part 5A to article V.
Ashley Steffan and Scott Teter, both representing the Michigan Department of Attorney
General, testified in support of HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Questions and discussion followed.
Cynthia Mifsud, representing her mother, Betty Hayes, testified with a neutral position on HB
4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Chris Abood, representing victims and reform, testified with a neutral position on HB 4909,
HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Lori L. Luoma, representing herself and her mother, Bonnie Luoma, testified with a neutral
position on HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Tom Howe, representing the public, testified in opposition to HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911,
HB 4912 and HB 5047.
Jody White, representing victims and reform, testified with a neutral position on HB 5047.
Genevieve Marnon, representing Right to Life of Michigan, testified with a neutral position
on HB 4909 and HB 4910.
Georgia Callis, Erik Sabaitis, and Steve Burnham, all representing the Michigan
Guardianship Association, testified in opposition to HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912
and HB 5047. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB 4912
and HB 5047, but did not wish to speak:
Nicole Shannon, representing the Michigan Elder Justice Initiative.
Ruthann Jaquette, representing Mid-Michigan Guardianship Services.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4909, HB 4910, HB 4911, HB
4912 and HB 5047, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Miner, representing the Oakland County Bar Association.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4909. The motion prevailed
10-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Johnsen.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out HB 4909 with recommendation, as
substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 9-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
Representative Hope moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4910. The motion prevailed 10-
0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Johnsen.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 4910 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 9-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
Representative Hoskins moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4911. The motion prevailed
10-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Johnsen.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report out HB 4911 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 9-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4912. The motion prevailed
10-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Johnsen.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 4912 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 9-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5047. The motion prevailed
10-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Johnsen.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 5047 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 9-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Wendzel, Wozniak.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Outman, Johnsen.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
12:00 PM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND MUNICIPAL FINANCE
REP. JOHN FITZGERALD
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
3:08 PM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Local Government and Municipal Finance was called to order by
Chair Fitzgerald.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn,
Paquette, Bezotte, BeGole, Prestin.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Shannon moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4861 before the committee:
HB 4861
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to require the state administrative board to
release restrictions on real property in Muskegon
County; to provide for the powers and duties of
certain state departments in regard to the property;
and to provide for disposition of revenue.
Representative Rogers moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4861. The motion prevailed
12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn,
Paquette, Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Snyder explained the changes in substitute (H-1) to HB 4861.
Representative Breen moved to report out HB 4861 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 11-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz, Zorn,
Bezotte, BeGole.
Nays: Rep. Paquette.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4861, but did not wish
to speak:
Neil DeSouza, representing the Department of Technology, Management and Budget.
The Chair laid HB 5074 before the committee:
HB 5074
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 2018 PA 57, entitled "Recodified
tax increment financing act," by amending section
402 (MCL 125.4402).
Representative Snyder testified in support of HB 5074. Questions and discussion followed.
Peter Wills, representing the City of Muskegon, testified in support of HB 5074. Questions
and discussion followed.
Amanda West, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury, testified in support of HB
5074.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5074, but did not wish to speak:
Brad Heffner, representing the Michigan Economic Development Corporation.
Representative Byrnes moved to report out HB 5074 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Fitzgerald, Byrnes, Shannon, Breen, Rogers, Hill, Hoskins, Paiz.
Nays: Reps. Paquette, BeGole.
Pass: Reps. Zorn, Bezotte, Prestin.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Fitzgerald adjourned the
meeting at 3:26 PM.
Representative John Fitzgerald, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 11, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Price, VanWoerkom,
Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: Reps. Grant, Markkanen.
Excused: Reps. Grant, Markkanen.
Representative VanWoerkom moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 27, 2023.
There being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4905 and HB 4906 before the committee:
HB 4905
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
by amending section 4cc (MCL 205.94cc), as
added by 2015 PA 252.
HB 4906
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled "General
sales tax act," by amending section 4ee (MCL
205.54ee), as added by 2015 PA 251.
Representative Farhat and Representative Andrews testified in support of HB 4905 and HB
4906. Questions and discussion followed.
Former Congresswoman Barbara Comstock, representing Netchoice, testified in support of
HB 4905 and HB 4906. Questions and discussion followed.
Rob Cleveland, representing Cornerstone Alliance, testified in support of HB 4905 and HB
4906. Questions and discussion followed.
Don Shoemaker and Todd Bateman, representing Franklin Partners, testified in support of HB
4905 and HB 4906. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4905 and HB 4906, but did not wish
to speak:
Marcia Hune, representing Ann Arbor SPARK.
Winston Feeheley, representing DTE Energy.
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
Eli Isaguirre, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights.
Robert Joerg, representing the Michigan Laborers District Council.
Tony Mossesso, representing the ITC Holdings Corporation.
Kevin Koehler, representing the Construction Association of Michigan.
Josh Levi, representing the Data Center Coalition.
Josh Lunger, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4905 and HB 4906, but did not
wish to speak:
James Hohman, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Representative Price moved to excuse Representatives Grant and Markkanen from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:27 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 11, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Elections and Ethics was scheduled for Wednesday, October 11, 2023, at
2:30 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4567 (Rep. Penelope Tsernoglou) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4568 (Rep. Karen Whitsett) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:31 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson
and McBroom, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
At 2:33 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 2:35 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4567
and HB 4568:
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights Michigan – Support HB 4568
Chris Semrinec, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Diego Geheverri, Secure Democracy USA – Support HB 4568
Stephanie Kreuz, Heritage Action for America – Opposition
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4567 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson, and McBroom.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4568 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: Sen.(s) McBroom.
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:37 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 18, 2023
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