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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. KELLY A BREEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 1, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Breen.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou, Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 592 before the committee:
SB 592
(Sen. Bayer)
A bill to amend 2022 PA 85, entitled "Opioid
liability litigation act," by amending sections 2
and 3 (MCL 691.1672 and 691.1673).
Senator Bayer, Ashely Steffen and Matt Walker, representing the Michigan Department of
Attorney General, testified in support of SB 592.
Representative Edwards moved to report out SB 592 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid SB 410 before the committee:
SB 410
(Sen. Irwin)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section 2946
(MCL 600.2946), as amended by 1995 PA 249.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out SB 410 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Representative Outman moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 410 was reported with
recommendation. The motion prevailed 12-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak, Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out SB 410 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Dievendorf, Hoskins, Tsernoglou,
Outman, Johnsen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Fink, Wendzel, Wozniak.
The Chair laid HB 5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB
5214 and HB 5215 before the committee:
HB 5207
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to establish and allow for the use of assisted
reproduction, including surrogacy; to provide for a
child conceived, gestated, and born through the
use of assisted reproduction, including through
surrogacy; to provide for the powers and duties of
certain state officers and entities; to provide
remedies; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
HB 5208
(Rep. Morse)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 2822, 2824,
2831, 2832, and 2891 (MCL 333.2822, 333.2824,
333.2831, 333.2832, and 333.2891), section 2822
as amended by 2017 PA 142, sections 2824, 2831,
and 2832 as amended by 1996 PA 307, and section
2891 as amended by 2020 PA 209.
HB 5209
(Rep. Breen)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 15g
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.15g), as amended by
2017 PA 259.
HB 5210
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 386, entitled "Estates and
protected individuals code," by amending section
2114 (MCL 700.2114), as amended by 2012 PA
160.
HB 5211
(Rep. Conlin)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 205, entitled "The
paternity act," by amending sections 1, 4, 4b, and
7 (MCL 722.711, 722.714, 722.714b, and
722.717), section 1 as amended by 2000 PA 31,
section 4 as amended by 2014 PA 367, section 4b
as added by 1994 PA 388, and section 7 as
amended by 2014 PA 364, and by adding section
4c.
HB 5212
(Rep. Morgan)
A bill to amend 2012 PA 159, entitled "Revocation
of paternity act," by amending the title and
sections 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 15 (MCL
722.1431, 722.1433, 722.1435, 722.1437,
722.1439, 722.1441, 722.1443, and 722.1445),
sections 3 and 5 as amended by 2014 PA 376,
section 7 as amended by 2014 PA 368, and
sections 13 and 15 as amended by 2016 PA 178.
HB 5213
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 2014 PA 366, entitled "Summary
support and paternity act," by amending section 3
(MCL 722.1493).
HB 5214
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1996 PA 305, entitled
"Acknowledgment of parentage act," by amending
sections 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7 (MCL 722.1002,
722.1003, 722.1004, 722.1006, and 722.1007),
section 3 as amended by 2014 PA 409, section 6 as
amended by 2006 PA 105, and section 7 as
amended by 2012 PA 161.
HB 5215
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to amend 2014 PA 365, entitled "Genetic
parentage act," by amending the title and section 5
(MCL 722.1465).
Courtney Joslin, representing the Uniform Law Commission, testified in support of HB 5207,
HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215.
Questions and discussion followed.
Rebecca Mastee, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference, testified in opposition to
HB 5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB
5215. Questions and discussion followed.
Genevieve Marnon, representing Right to Life of Michigan, testified in opposition to HB
5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215.
Questions and discussion followed.
Alexandra Kamer, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance, testified in support of HB
5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215.
Questions and discussion followed.
Tammy Myers, representing herself, testified in support of HB 5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB
5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215. Questions and discussion
followed.
Judge Jacob James Cunningham, representing himself, testified with a neutral position on HB
5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215.
Questions and discussion followed.
Stephanie Jones, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance, testified in support of HB
5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215.
Questions and discussion followed.
Polly Croizer, representing GLAD, testified in support of HB 5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB
5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB
5210, HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Katherine Bussard, representing herself.
Eileen McNeil, representing Citizens for Traditional Values.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5207, but due to the
time constraints was unable to speak:
Emma Waters, representing the Heritage Foundation.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5207, HB 5208, HB 5209, HB 5210,
HB 5211, HB 5212, HB 5213, HB 5214 and HB 5215, but did not wish to speak:
Merissa Kovach, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Courtney Welz, representing herself.
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Family Law Section of the State Bar of Michigan.
Meghan Reynolds, representing the Michigan Poverty Law Program.
Ashley Steffen, representing the Michigan Department of Attorney General.
Jen Valente, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance.
Ginanne Brownell, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance.
Chensh Paska, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance.
Matt Friedman, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance.
Justin Gailitis, representing the Michigan Fertility Alliance.
Angie Martell, representing the Michigan Bar LGBTQ.
Kelsey Laird, representing herself.
Melissa Neckers VanderLeek, Attorney, representing Tammy Myers.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5207 and HB 5208, but did not
wish to speak:
Stephanie Kreuz, representing the Heritage Action.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5207, but did not wish to speak:
Luke Grizwack, representing his family.
Representative Edwards moved to report out HB 5207 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out HB 5208 with recommendation. The
motion prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Hope moved to report out HB 5209 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 5210 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 5211 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Hoskins moved to report out HB 5212 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report out HB 5213 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Edwards moved to report out HB 5214 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out HB 5215 with recommendation. The
motion prevailed 8-3-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Breen, Edwards, Tyrone Carter, Hope, Arbit, Dievendorf, Hoskins,
Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Fink, Wozniak, Johnsen.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Breen adjourned the meeting at
11:58 AM.
Representative Kelly Breen, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 1, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price,
VanWoerkom, Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 18, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4675 and HB 4679 before the committee:
HB 4675
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 2003 PA 258, entitled "Land bank
fast track act," by amending sections 4, 13, and 14
(MCL 124.754, 124.763, and 124.764).
HB 4679
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 94, entitled "The revenue
bond act of 1933," by amending section 18 (MCL
141.118), as amended by 1987 PA 229.
Representative Grant, and Joseph Rivet, representing the Michigan State Land Bank, testified
in support of HB 4675 and HB 4679. Questions and discussion followed.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association, testified in opposition to HB
4675. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4675 and HB 4679, but did not wish
to speak:
Alan Fox, representing the Ingham County Treasurer's Office.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4675, but did not wish to speak:
Amanda Tomich, representing the Michigan Assessors Asscociation.
Representative Grant moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4675. The motion prevailed 12-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price, VanWoerkom,
Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Farhat moved to report out HB 4675 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 7-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanWoerkom, Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Representative Price moved to report out HB 4679 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanWoerkom, Markkanen, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:24 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS SUBCOMMITTEE ON
HOUSING
REP. KEVIN COLEMAN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 1, 2023
4:26 PM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Economic Development and Small Business Subcommittee on Housing was
called to order by Chair Coleman.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou, Aragona, Zorn,
Fink, DeBoyer.
Absent: Rep. Scott.
Excused: None.
Representative Aragona moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5030, HB 5031 and HB 5032 before the committee:
HB 5030
(Rep. Coffia)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 30 (MCL 125.1430), as
amended by 1982 PA 506.
HB 5031
(Rep. Puri)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 21 (MCL 125.1421), as
amended by 2000 PA 257.
HB 5032
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1966 PA 346, entitled "State
housing development authority act of 1966," by
amending section 44 (MCL 125.1444), as
amended by 2017 PA 127.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5030, HB 5031, (H-2) and HB 5032,
but did not wish to speak:
Brad Wad, representing the Michigan Realtors.
Mark Garcia, representing the Michigan State Housing Development Authority.
Kyle Richard representing the Rent is Too Damn High testified with a neutral position on HB
5030, HB 5031, (H-2) and HB 5032.
At 4:28 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 4:36 PM, with all members present, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Scott moved to refer House Bill No. 5030 to the Committee on Economic
Development and Small Business. The motion prevailed 7-0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Aragona, Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Representative Dievendorf moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5031. The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou, Aragona,
Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Stone moved to refer House Bill No. 5031 to the Committee on Economic
Development and Small Business, with recommendation as substitute (H-2). The motion
prevailed 7-0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Aragona, Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Representative Andrews moved to refer House Bill No. 5032 to the Committee on Economic
Development and Small Business. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Coleman, Dievendorf, Stone, Scott, Andrews, Grant, Tsernoglou, Aragona,
Zorn, Fink, DeBoyer.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the subcommittee, Chair Coleman adjourned the
meeting at 4:40 PM.
Representative Kevin Coleman, Chair
Hazel Campbell-Crawley
Committee Clerk
hcrawley@house.mi.gov
Date Adopted: January 25,
2024


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. RICK OUTMAN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AND
EMERGENCY SERVICES
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 1, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Veterans and Emergency Services was scheduled for Wednesday,
November 1, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4337 (Rep. Witwer) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4850 (Rep. Glanville) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:05 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from October 4, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4337, and invited Joci McMichael of Rep. Witwer’s office to summarize the bill.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4337:
Heather Feuerstein, MI Department of Military & Veterans Affairs - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to report HB 4337 to the floor with recommendation that the bill
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4850, and invited Rep. Glanville to summarize the bill.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4850:
David Steggerda, Citizen - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Outman to report HB 4850 to the floor with recommendation that the
bill pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:12 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 02/07/24


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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND ETHICS
SENATOR JEREMY MOSS
CHAIR
132 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7888
FAX: (517) 373-2983
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 1, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Elections and Ethics was scheduled for Wednesday, November 1, 2023,
at 3:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4569 (S-2) (Rep. Betsy Coffia) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4570 (Rep. Julie M. Rogers) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4983 (S-1) (Rep. Penelope Tsernoglou) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4984 (Rep. Phil Skaggs) with recommendation.
5. Reported HB 4985 (Rep. Emily Dievendorf) with recommendation.
6. Reported HB 4986 (Rep. Jimmie Wilson) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:40 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson
and McBroom, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to adopt the (S-2) version of HB 4569. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson, and McBroom.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report the (S-2) version of HB 4569 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: Sen.(s) McBroom.
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4570 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: Sen.(s) McBroom.
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4983. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, Camilleri, Johnson, and McBroom.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report the (S-1) version of HB 4983 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: Sen.(s) McBroom.
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to report HB 4984 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson and McBroom.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report HB 4985 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson and McBroom.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4986 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Moss, Sen.(s) Wojno, Santana, McMorrow, Chang, and Camilleri.
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson and McBroom.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4983,
HB 4984, HB 4985 and HB 4986:
Erin Schor, MDOS – Support
Stephanie Szymas, Secure Democracy USA – Support
Kaci Pellar, Detroit Disability Power – Support
Sheri Ritchie, MI Fair Elections; Pure Integrity MIchigan Elections; Freedom Alliance Project; Stand up
MI; Mid-MI Women for Conservative Values – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4983:
Stephanie Kreuz, Heritage Action for America – Opposition
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Lata Nott, Campaign Legal Center – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4569
and HB 4570:
Sheri Ritchie, MI Fair Elections; Pure Integrity MI Elections; Stand up Michigan; Freedom Alliance
Project; Mid-MI Women for Conservative Values – Opposition
Stephanie Kreuz, Heritage Action for America – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4569:
Lata Nott, Campaign Legal Center – Support
Stephanie Szymas, Secure Democracy USA – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:47 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: November 8, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. JEREMY MOSS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, INSURANCE,
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
SENATOR MARY CAVANAGH
CHAIR
6500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7748
FAX: (517) 373-1387
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 1, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Finance, Insurance, and Consumer Protection was scheduled for
Wednesday, November 1, 2023, at 12:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 415 and SB 416 (Sen. Klinefelt).
2. Testimony regarding HB 4197 (Rep. Witwer).
3. Testimony regarding SB 282 (Sen. Santana).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:35 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cavanagh, Sen.(s) Moss, McCann, Bayer, Irwin, Huizenga, Theis and
Daley, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to adopt the meeting minutes from October 18, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 415 and SB 416:
Sen. Veronica Klinefelt – Support
Rob Mass, Michigan Department of Treasury – Support
Scott Graham, Michigan Brewers Guild – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 415 and
SB 416:
James Hohman, Mackinac Center – Opposition
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4197:
Joci McMichael, The office of Rep. Witwer – Support
Mark Staat and Scott Embree, National Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors Michigan –
Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4197:
Mack Jones, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs – Support
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The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 282:
Sen. Sylvia Santana – Support
Joseph Sullivan, Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services – Support
Dani Hourani, Resident – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:07 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 11/08/23
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location: Room 519, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, November 2, 2023
8:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: Rep. Whitsett.
Excused: Rep. Whitsett.
Representative Haadsma moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 26, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 133 before the committee:
SB 133
(Sen. McCann)
A bill to provide for the review and prevention of
deaths from drug overdose in this state; to allow
for the creation of overdose fatality review teams;
to provide for the powers and duties of the
overdose fatality review teams; to regulate certain
entities; to prescribe powers and duties of certain
state and local governmental officers and entities;
and to prescribe remedies for a violation of this
act.
Senator McCann testified in support of SB 133. Questions and discussion followed.
Abigail Grande, MPH, representing the WMU School of Medicine, Office of the Medical
Examiner, testified in support of SB 133. Questions and discussion followed.
Anna Tart, MD, representing the WMU School of Medicine, Office of the Medical Examiner,
testified in support of SB 133. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 133, but did not wish to speak:
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association.
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
Kate Dorsey, representing the Michigan State Medical Society.
Linda Davis, representing Families Against Narcotics.
Samantha Gibson, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Representative Brenda Carter moved to report out SB 133 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-1-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: Rep. VanderWall.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
The Chair laid SB 227 before the committee:
SB 227
(Sen. Lauwers)
A bill to amend 1973 PA 116, entitled "An act to
provide for the protection of children through the
licensing and regulation of child care
organizations; to provide for the establishment of
standards of care for child care organizations; to
prescribe powers and duties of certain departments
of this state and adoption facilitators; to provide
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending sections 1, 2b, and 2c (MCL 722.111,
722.112b, and 722.112c), section 1 as amended by
2022 PA 208, section 2b as amended by 2007 PA
217, and section 2c as amended by 2017 PA 257.
Representative VanderWall moved to report out SB 227 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5027, HB 5167, HB 5168, HB 5169, HB 5170, HB 5171, HB 5172 and
HB 5173 before the committee:
HB 5027
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 109o.
HB 5167
(Rep. Neeley)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
section 109o.
HB 5168
(Rep. Edwards)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406z.
HB 5169
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 9137.
HB 5170
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406z.
HB 5171
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," by amending section 109 (MCL
400.109), as amended by 2022 PA 98.
HB 5172
(Rep. Glanville)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 9129.
HB 5173
(Rep. Hope)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 20165 (MCL
333.20165), as amended by 2008 PA 39, and by
adding section 21537.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5027, HB 5167, HB 5168, HB 5169,
HB 5170, HB 5171, HB 5172 and HB 5173, but did not wish to speak:
Shakti Rambarran, representing the Michigan Organization on Adolescent Sexual Health
(MOASH).
Sarah McGee, representing the Nurse Family Partnership.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5027, HB 5167, HB 5168 and HB
5172, but did not wish to speak:
Lee Roosevelt, PhD, MPH, CNM, FACNM, President, representing the American
College of Nurse-Midwives, Michigan Affiliate.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5027, HB 5169, HB 5170 and HB
5171, but did not wish to speak:
Kate Dorsey, representing the Michigan State Medical Society.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5169, HB 5170, HB 5171 and HB
5172, but did not wish to speak:
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health & Hospital Association.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5027, but did not wish to speak:
Sam Champagne, representing Henry Ford Health.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5173, but did not wish
to speak:
Parker Fisher, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial
Services.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5027. The motion prevailed
11-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Rheingans moved to report out HB 5027 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 13-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5167. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Glanville moved to report out HB 5167 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 17-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. VanWoerkom.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5168. The motion prevailed 18-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Farhat moved to report out HB 5168 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 17-0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. VanWoerkom.
Representative Brenda Carter moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5169. The motion
prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Brenda Carter moved to report out HB 5169 with recommendation, as
substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 16-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, VanWoerkom.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5170. The motion prevailed 17-
0-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Rep. VanWoerkom.
Representative Conlin moved to report out HB 5170 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 13-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5171. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 5171 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 11-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5172. The motion prevailed
11-1-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: Rep. Mueller.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Filler, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Rheingans moved to report out HB 5172 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 11-3-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: Reps. VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Haadsma moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 5173. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Haadsma moved to report out HB 5173 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-3). The motion prevailed 13-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin, Farhat,
Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz.
The Chair laid HB 5184 and HB 5185 before the committee:
HB 5184
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 18503, 18504,
18506, 18506a, 18509, and 18518 (MCL
333.18503, 333.18504, 333.18506, 333.18506a,
333.18509, and 333.18518), sections 18503 and
18509 as amended by and sections 18504, 18506,
18506a, and 18518 as added by 2004 PA 61, and
by adding section 18515a.
HB 5185
(Rep. Edwards)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 16177, 16348,
18101, and 18501 (MCL 333.16177, 333.16348,
333.18101, and 333.18501), section 16177 as
amended by 2006 PA 481, sections 16348 and
18501 as amended by 2004 PA 61, section 18101
as amended by 2019 PA 96.
The Clerk read a letter from Chair Rogers referring HB 5184 and HB 5185 to the Health
Policy Subcommittee on Behavioral Health.
Representative Neeley moved to excuse Representative Whitsett from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
8:40 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, November 2, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Bezotte, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: Rep. Markkanen.
Excused: Rep. Markkanen.
Representative Breen joined the committee remotely.
Representative Harris moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 19, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid before the committee a presentation from CURE Auto Insurance.
Eric Poe, the Chief Executive Officer for CURE Auto Insurance, gave a presentation.
Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Harris moved to excuse Representative Markkanen from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the
meeting at 9:55 AM.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, November 2, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela,
Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 26, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4688 before the committee:
HB 4688
(Rep. Haadsma)
A bill to amend 1947 PA 336, entitled "An act to
prohibit strikes by certain public employees; to
provide review from disciplinary action with
respect thereto; to provide for the mediation of
grievances and the holding of elections; to declare
and protect the rights and privileges of public
employees; to require certain provisions in
collective bargaining agreements; to prescribe
means of enforcement and penalties for the
violation of the provisions of this act; and to make
appropriations," by amending sections 11 and 15
(MCL 423.211 and 423.215), section 15 as
amended by 2023 PA 9.
Representative Koleszar moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4688. The motion prevailed
8-1-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela, Mueller.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Rep. Wozniak.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4688, but did not wish to speak:
Dan O'Leary, representing Clinton Charter Township.
Dave Hodgkins, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Samantha Gibson, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Matt Saxton, representing the Michigan Sheriffs Association.
Angela Elsey, representing the Michigan Communications Directors Association.
Joni Harvey, representing the State 911 Committee.
Mike Batterbee, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Representative Mentzer moved to report out HB 4688 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-2). The motion prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller.
The Chair laid HB 5164 and HB 5165 before the committee:
HB 5164
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to create the call center jobs retention act; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; to impose
certain duties on certain employers; and to
prescribe civil sanctions.
HB 5165
(Rep. O'Neal)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled "Michigan
strategic fund act," (MCL 125.2001 to 125.2094)
by adding section 15.
Representative O'Neal, Charles Daniels, representing the Communication Workers of
America, and Angie Miller, representing the Michigan Area Labor Council, testified in
support of HB 5164 and HB 5165. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5164 and HB 5165, but did not wish
to speak:
Andrew Kozicki, and Tina Culver, representing the Communications Workers of America
Union.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5164 and HB 5165, but did not
wish to speak:
Wendy Block, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 9:50 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
The Conference Committee on Senate Bill No. 174 submitted the following:

Meeting held on Thursday, November 2, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Anthony (C), McCann and Bumstead


evidence_text:
The Conference Committee on House Bill No. 4292 submitted the following:

Meeting held on Thursday, November 2, 2023, at 9:15 a.m., Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building

Present: Senators Anthony, McCann and Bumstead

Senator Singh moved that the Senate adjourn.

The motion prevailed, the time being 6:04 p.m.

The President pro tempore, Senator Moss, declared the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, November 7, 2023, at 10:00 a.m.

DANIEL OBERLIN

Secretary of the Senate


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 2, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
November 2, 2023, at 9:00 a.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4320 (Rep. MacDonell) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4387 (Rep. MacDonell) with recommendation.
3. Testimony regarding SB 600 (S-1) (Sen. Santana).
4. Testimony regarding SB 601 (S-1) (Sen. Santana).
5. Testimony regarding SB 515 (Sen. Bayer).
6. Testimony regarding SB 516 (Sen. Shink).
7. Testimony regarding SB 517 (Sen. Chang).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:12 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from the October 31, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4320 and HB 4387.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4320 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4387 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB 600 (S-1) and SB 601 (S-1) and invited Sen. Santana to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB’s 600-601:
JeDonna Dinges, Ethnic Intimidation Law Amendment Work Group - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 600. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 601. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair brought up SB’s 515-517, and invited Sen. Bayer to summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB’s 515-517:
Detective Martin, Auburn Hills Police Department - Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 515-517:
Heath Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support SB 515-516
Gabrielle Dresner, ACLU Michigan – Oppose SB 515-516
Trooper Kristina Droste, Michigan State Police – Support
Brandon Lanyon, Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan – Support SB 515-516
The Chairman recessed the committee at 9:50 a.m.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 11:46 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 11/09/2023


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 2, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Thursday, November 2, 2023, at 9:30 a.m., in
the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:32 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023 and
October 26, 2023. Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report HB 4082 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh, and Albert.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:33 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 15, 2024
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MEMBERS:
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. ROGER VICTORY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
SENATOR MALLORY MCMORROW
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2523
FAX: (517) 373-5669
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 2, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Economic and Community Development was scheduled for Thursday,
November 2, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 5074 (Rep. Will Snyder) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the following
members were present: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet, Moss, Geiss,
Victory, Lindsey and Webber, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Jason Calella of Representative Snyder's office to explain HB 5074. Member questions
followed.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5074:
Peter Wills, City of Muskegon – Support
Danielle McCann, MEDC – Support
Peter Morman, Michigan Department of Treasury – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Victory to report HB 5074 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair McMorrow, Sen.(s) Cavanagh, Polehanki, Cherry, McDonald Rivet, Moss, Geiss, Victory, and
Webber.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 12:08 p.m.
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Date Adopted by Committee: February 15, 2024
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location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

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MEMBERS:
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. DAN LAUWERS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
SEN. RICK OUTMAN
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENT
SENATOR SEAN MCCANN
CHAIR
7100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-5100
FAX: (517) 373-5115
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 2, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Energy and Environment was scheduled for Thursday, November 2,
2023, at 1:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4706 (Rep. MacDonell) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:31 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel,
Camilleri, Chang, Polehanki, Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chari invited Matt Dargay, of Rep. MacDonell's office, to summarize HB 4706.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4706:
Jane McCurry, Clean Fuels Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4706:
Cory Bullis, FLO EV Charging – Support
Reka Holley Voelker, Michigan Public Service Commission – Support
Chris Semrinec, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Carlee Knot, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
Samarth Medakkar, Advanced Energy United – Support
Justin Carpenter, Michigan EIBC – Support
Paul Corbett, MICH Auto – Support
Bret Marr, General Motors – Support
Zach Kahn, Tesla – Support
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to report HB 4706 to the floor with recommendation
that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang,
Polehanki, Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
At 1:40 p.m., the Chair called for the committee to go at ease.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:58 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: November 7, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 2, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Thursday, November 2, 2023, at 3:00
p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 44 (S-2) (Sen. Wojno) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 45 (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 482 (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation.
4. Testimony regarding SB 633 (Sen. Hertel).
5. Testimony regarding SB 634 (Sen. Santana).
6. Testimony regarding SB 635 (Sen. Geiss).
7. Testimony regarding SB 636 (Sen. Hertel).
8. Testimony regarding SB 637 (Sen. Camilleri).
9. Testimony regarding SB 638 (Sen. Klinefelt).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:01 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from October 18, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 44 and
SB 45:
Marcia Hune, Michigan Society of Anesthesiologists – Support
Shakti Rambarran, Michigan Organization on Adolescent Sexual Health – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report the (S-2) version of SB 44 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 45 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to report SB 482 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair summarized SB 633 through SB 638.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 633 through SB 638:
Joseph Sullivan, Department of Insurance and Financial Services – No Position
Heather Korbulic, Get Insured – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 633:
Megan Blue, Corewell Health and Priority Health – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: November 8, 2023
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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR JEFF IRWIN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2406
FAX: (517) 373-5679
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Housing and Human Services was scheduled for Tuesday, November 7,
2023, at 9:30 a.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4085 (S-1) (Rep. Stone) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4086 (S-1) (Rep. Roth) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:45 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss,
Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to adopt the meeting minutes from October 31, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
Sen. Irwin offered, and summarized, (S-1) versions of HB 4085 and HB 4086.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4085. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga,
and Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4086. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, Lindsey, Hoitenga,
and Damoose
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 4085 and HB 4086:
Chardae Burton, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services – Support
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Julie Cassidy, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Harrison Gloss, Youth Protection Council Innerlink – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report the (S-1) version of HB 4085 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, and Damoose.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey and Hoitenga
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report the (S-1) version of HB 4086 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss, and Damoose.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey and Hoitenga
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:50 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 6, 2024
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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Local Government was scheduled for Tuesday, November 7, 2023, at
1:30 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Reported HB 5048 (Rep. Fitzgerald) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:33 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Moss, Bayer, Shink, Hoitenga and Daley, a
quorum was present.
The Chairman entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from October 31, 2023.
Without objection the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 5048 and invited Rep. Fitzgerald to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony regarding HB 5048:
Jon O’Connor, City of Grand Rapids – Support
Al Vanderberg, Kent County Administrator – Support
Josh Lunger, Grand Rapids Chamber – Support
Rick Winn, Kent County Convention / Area Authority – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 5048:
John McNamara, Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association - Support
Matt Sowash, MI Association of Convention and Visitor Bureaus – Support
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Bill Zaagman, GCSI, Muskegon County – Support
Rusty Merchant, Grand Action – Support
Jared Fleisher, Rocket Companies – Support
Judy Allen, Michigan Townships Association – Neutral
Tim Langholz, National Federation of Independent Business – Oppose
Rob Mass, Michigan Department of Treasury - Neutral
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to report HB 5048 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Moss, Bayer, Shink and Daley
Nays: Sen. Hoitenga
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:47 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/06/2024


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MEMBERS:
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SAM SINGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. DAN LAUWERS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
SEN. RICK OUTMAN
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENT
SENATOR SEAN MCCANN
CHAIR
7100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-5100
FAX: (517) 373-5115
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Energy and Environment was scheduled for Tuesday, November 7,
2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 5120 (Rep. Aiyash) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 5121 (Rep. Puri) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:07 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel,
Camilleri, Chang, Polehanki, Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to adopt the meeting minutes from November 2, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of HB 5120.
The Chair invited Rep. Puri to summarize HB 5120 and HB 5121.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 5120. The vote was
as follows:
Yeas: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang,
Polehanki, Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5120 and HB 5121:
Dan Scripps, Michigan Public Service Commission – Support
Dick Farnsworth, Montcalm County – Support
Clara Ostrander, Monroe County – Support
Judy Allen, Michigan Townships Association – Oppose
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Courtney Bourgoin, Evergreen Action – Support
Madeline Fata, Michigan Association of Counties – Oppose
Robert Joerg, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
Justin Carpenter, Michigan EIBC – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 5120 and HB
5121:
Dr. Wanda Iza, Citizen – Oppose
Jessica Kwekel, Montcalm County – Oppose
Jeremy Kwekel, Citizen – Oppose
Steven Weiss, Conway Township – Oppose
Mike Patullo, Ellington Township – Oppose
Mike Brown, Citizen – Oppose
Norman Stephens, Almer Township – Oppose
Diane Hulett, Riley Township – No Position
Elizabeth Masters, Wales – No Position
Pamela Reed, Citizen – No Position
Martha Kenyon, Citizen – Oppose
Curt Kenyon, Citizen – Oppose
Mark Bogi, Milan Township Supervisor – Oppose
Kurt Hausaueh, Citizen – No Position
Howard Fink, Park Township – Neutral
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 5120 and HB 5121:
William Miller, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
Alli Gold Roberts, Ceres – Support
Nick Occhipinti, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Brian Shoaf, Detroit Regional Chamber – Support
Charlotte Jameson, Michigan Environmental Council – Support
Tim Minotas, Sierra Club – Support
Derrell Slaughter, NRDC – Support
Samarth Medakkar, Advanced Energy United – Support
Aaron Ostrander, Citizen – Support
Jessica Collingsworth, NexAmp – Support
Peder Mewis, Clean Grid Alliance – Support
Eli Isaguirre, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights – Support
Mike Spence, Southeast Michigan Council of Governments – Oppose
Andrew Vermeesch, Michigan Farm Bureau – Oppose
Tim Langholz, NFIB – Oppose
Herasanna Richards, Michigan Municipal League – Oppose
Robert Leiter, Seville Township – Oppose
Herold Defever, Citizen – Oppose
Carmell Pattullo, Ellington Township Treasurer – Oppose
James Choate, Citizen – Oppose
Rosemary Murphy, Windfield/Montcalm – Oppose
Kevin Murphy, Montcalm County – Oppose
Erin Harman, Iosco Township – Oppose
Clint Beach, Small Farmers – Oppose
Anne Gebauer, Iosco Township – Oppose
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Lisa Brown, Citizen – Oppose
Sue Deer Dembowski, Citizen – Oppose
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McDonald Rivet to report the (S-1) version of HB 5120 to the floor
with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Shink, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, and Polehanki
Nays: Sen.(s) Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino
Pass: Sen. Bayer
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Singh to report HB 5121 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair McCann, Sen.(s) McDonald Rivet, Singh, Bayer, Shink, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, and
Polehanki
Nays: Sen.(s) Lauwers, Damoose, Outman, Hauck, and Bellino
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:21 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: January 25, 2024
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MEMBERS:
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. SEAN MCCANN
SEN. JOSEPH BELLINO, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM
SEN. ROGER VICTORY
SEN. JON BUMSTEAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE
SENATOR ERIKA GEISS
CHAIR
5500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7800
FAX: (517) 373-9310
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 7, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was scheduled for Tuesday, November
7, 2023, at 3:30 p.m., in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 501 (S-1) (Sen. Camilleri) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 465 (S-1) (Sen. Singh) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4897 (Rep. Shannon) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4126 (Rep. Snyder) with recommendation.
5. Testimony regarding HB 4132 (Rep. Snyder).
6. Testimony regarding HB 4133 (Rep. Mueller).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:34 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann,
Bellino, McBroom, Victory, and Bumstead, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the meeting minutes from October 24, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
SB 501:
Derek Basema, Pepsi Co – Support
William Miller, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
Jane McCurry, Clean Fuels MI – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report the (S-1) version of SB 501 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of SB 465.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 465. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 465:
William Miller, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
SB 465:
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to report the (S-1) version of SB 465 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Thomas Steinbis, of Rep. Shannon's office, to summarize HB 4897.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4897:
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 4897:
Troy Hagon, Michigan Department of Transportation – Support
Mike Spence, SEMCOG – Support
Madeline Fata, Michigan Association of Counties – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to report HB 4897 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Rep. Snyder to summarize HB 4126.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4126:
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
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The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 4126:
Matthew Penniman, League of Michigan Bicyclists – Support
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriff's Association – Support
First Lieutenant Nicole McGhee, Michigan State Police – Support
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
Stephanie Szymas, Conduent – Support t
William Miller, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
At 3:54 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 3:56 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Klinefelt to report HB 4126 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Geiss, Sen.(s) Klinefelt, Wojno, Hertel, Camilleri, Chang, McCann, Bellino, McBroom,
Victory, and Bumstead
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair invited Rep. Snyder to summarize HB 4132 and HB 4133.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4132 and HB 4133:
Lance Binoniemi, Michigan Infrastructure and Transportation Association – Support
Robert Joerg, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
Lawrence Smith, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
William Miller, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 4132:
John LaMacchia, Michigan Municipal League – Support
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 4132 and HB 4133:
Gabrielle Dresner, ACLU of Michigan – Oppose
Mike Spence, SEMCOG – Support
Ed Noyola, County Road Association – Support
Bruce Timmons, Citizen – Oppose
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 4:29 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/06/2024
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 8, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the meeting minutes from November 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4464 and HB 4465 before the committee:
HB 4464
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
(MCL 460.1001 to 460.1211) by adding sections
235 and 237.
HB 4465
(Rep. Roth)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
by amending section 5 (MCL 460.1005), as
amended by 2016 PA 342.
Representative Hood, along with Karyn Ferrick, representing the City of Grand Rapids,
testified in support of HB 4464 and HB 4465. Questions and discussion followed.
Kaitlin Kelly O'Neill, representing ECA Solar; Bridget Callahan, representing Summit Ridge
Energy; and Sarah Moon, representing Fieldworks Power LLC; testified in support of HB
4464 and HB 4465. Questions and discussion followed.
Justin Carpenter, representing Michigan EIBC, testified in support of HB 4464 and HB 4465.
Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Whitsett moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4464. The motion prevailed
10-5-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: Reps. Outman, Aragona.
Representative Churches moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4465. The motion prevailed
10-5-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: Reps. Outman, Aragona.
The following person submitted a card in support of the concept of HB 4464, but did not wish
to speak:
Andrew Vermeesch, representing Michigan Farm Bureau.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4464, but did not wish to speak:
Alli Gold Roberts, representing Ceves.
Paul Stankewitz, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
Matt Sowash, representing the Solar Energy Industries Association.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4464 and HB 4465, but did not wish
to speak:
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club.
Carlee Knott, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Chris Semrinec, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Jessica Collingsworth, representing NexAmp.
Ed Rivet, representing the Michigan Conservative Energy Forum.
Amy Trotter, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs-Michigan.
Marc Smith, representing the National Wildlife Federation.
Linda Racine, representing Citizens Climate Lobby.
Sean McBreaty, representing Clean Water Action.
Joe Henri, representing Dimension Energy.
Lisa Del Buono, representing Michigan Clinicians for Climate Action.
Lucy Bullock Sieger, representing Lightstar Renewables.
Carlo Cavaccaro, representing CCSA.
John Freeman, representing GLREA.
Erin Curran, representing SunVest Solar LLC.
At 9:43 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:45 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 5216, HB 5218, HB 5220 and HB 5221 before the committee:
HB 5216
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 3, entitled "An act to
provide for the regulation and control of public
and certain private utilities and other services
affected with a public interest within this state; to
provide for alternative energy suppliers; to provide
for licensing; to include municipally owned
utilities and other providers of energy under
certain provisions of this act; to create a public
service commission and to prescribe and define its
powers and duties; to abolish the Michigan public
utilities commission and to confer the powers and
duties vested by law on the public service
commission; to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state governmental officers and entities;
to provide for the continuance, transfer, and
completion of certain matters and proceedings; to
abolish automatic adjustment clauses; to prohibit
certain rate increases without notice and hearing;
to qualify residential energy conservation
programs permitted under state law for certain
federal exemption; to create a fund; to encourage
the utilization of resource recovery facilities; to
prohibit certain acts and practices of providers of
energy; to allow for the securitization of stranded
costs; to reduce rates; to provide for appeals; to
provide appropriations; to declare the effect and
purpose of this act; to prescribe remedies and
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending sections 6u and 10p (MCL 460.6u and
460.10p), section 6u as added and section 10p as
amended by 2016 PA 341.
HB 5218
(Rep. Hill)
A bill to require certain reports be submitted to the
Michigan public service commission; and to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
and local governmental officers and entities.
HB 5220
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 3, entitled "An act to
provide for the regulation and control of public
and certain private utilities and other services
affected with a public interest within this state; to
provide for alternative energy suppliers; to provide
for licensing; to include municipally owned
utilities and other providers of energy under
certain provisions of this act; to create a public
service commission and to prescribe and define its
powers and duties; to abolish the Michigan public
utilities commission and to confer the powers and
duties vested by law on the public service
commission; to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state governmental officers and entities;
to provide for the continuance, transfer, and
completion of certain matters and proceedings; to
abolish automatic adjustment clauses; to prohibit
certain rate increases without notice and hearing;
to qualify residential energy conservation
programs permitted under state law for certain
federal exemption; to create a fund; to encourage
the utilization of resource recovery facilities; to
prohibit certain acts and practices of providers of
energy; to allow for the securitization of stranded
costs; to reduce rates; to provide for appeals; to
provide appropriations; to declare the effect and
purpose of this act; to prescribe remedies and
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts,"
(MCL 460.1 to 460.11) by adding section 6y.
HB 5221
(Rep. Neeley)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 3, entitled "An act to
provide for the regulation and control of public
and certain private utilities and other services
affected with a public interest within this state; to
provide for alternative energy suppliers; to provide
for licensing; to include municipally owned
utilities and other providers of energy under
certain provisions of this act; to create a public
service commission and to prescribe and define its
powers and duties; to abolish the Michigan public
utilities commission and to confer the powers and
duties vested by law on the public service
commission; to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state governmental officers and entities;
to provide for the continuance, transfer, and
completion of certain matters and proceedings; to
abolish automatic adjustment clauses; to prohibit
certain rate increases without notice and hearing;
to qualify residential energy conservation
programs permitted under state law for certain
federal exemption; to create a fund; to encourage
the utilization of resource recovery facilities; to
prohibit certain acts and practices of providers of
energy; to allow for the securitization of stranded
costs; to reduce rates; to provide for appeals; to
provide appropriations; to declare the effect and
purpose of this act; to prescribe remedies and
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending sections 9d, 9q, and 9r (MCL 460.9d,
460.9q, and 460.9r), section 9d as added by 2010
PA 128, section 9q as amended by 2011 PA 274,
and section 9r as added by 2009 PA 174.
Representative Hill moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5216. The motion prevailed 17-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Churches moved to report out HB 5216 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 10-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 5218 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Representative MacDonell moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5220. The motion
prevailed 17-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Churches moved to report out HB 5220 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 11-3-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Outman, Greene, Prestin.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Aragona, Schmaltz.
Representative Coleman moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5221. The motion prevailed
10-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Representative Neeley moved to report out HB 5221 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 10-2-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Outman, Prestin.
Pass: Reps. Wendzel, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Schmaltz.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
9:51 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND SENIORS
REP. STEPHANIE A. YOUNG
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 8, 2023
2:32 PM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Families, Children and Seniors was called to order by Chair Young.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox,
Johnsen, Thompson.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 17, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5148 and HB 5149 before the committee:
HB 5148
(Rep. Grant)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 2829 and 2882
(MCL 333.2829 and 333.2882), section 2829 as
amended by 1992 PA 248 and section 2882 as
amended by 2020 PA 209.
HB 5149
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 288, entitled "Probate
code of 1939," by amending sections 27a, 27b, 67,
and 68 of chapter X (MCL 710.27a, 710.27b,
710.67, and 710.68), sections 27a and 68 as
amended by 2012 PA 385, section 27b as added by
1994 PA 208, and section 67 as amended by 1994
PA 373, and by adding section 27c to chapter X.
Representative Outman, joined by Max Aulbach, representing the Office of Representative
Grant, testified in support of HB 5148 and HB 5149. Questions and discussion followed.
Rebecca Mastee, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference, testified in opposition to
HB 5148 and HB 5149. Questions and discussion followed.
Heath B. Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence,
testified in opposition to HB 5148 and HB 5149.
Ned Andree, representing the Michigan Adoptee Rights Coalition, testified in support of HB
5148 and HB 5149.
Brook Van Prooyen, representing the Adoptive Family Support Network, testified in support
of HB 5148 and HB 5149. Questions and discussion followed.
Tiana Hawver, representing the Michigan Adoptee Rights Coalition, testified in support of
HB 5148 and HB 5149. Questions and discussion followed.
Katie Page Sander, representing Hands Across The Water, testified in support of HB 5148 and
HB 5149.
Gregory Luce, representing the Michigan Adoptee Rights Coalition, testified in support of
HB 5148 and HB 5149. Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Grant testified in support of HB 5148 and HB 5149. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5148, and HB 5149, but did not wish
to speak:
Janet Reynolds Snyder, representing the Michigan Federation of Children and Families.
Mandy Bolter, representing D. A. Blodgett - St. John's Home.
Erica Curry Van Ee, representing the Michigan Adoptee Collaborative.
Jillian Blair, representing the Michigan Adoptee Collaborative.
Valerie Lemieux, representing the Adoptee Advocates of Michigan.
Kristin Gietzen, representing Arbor Circle.
Ryan Waalkes, representing the Bridge Street Ministries.
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5148, and HB 5149, but did not
wish to speak:
Genevieve Marron, representing Right to Life of Michigan.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5148. The motion prevailed
10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox,
Johnsen, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Glanville moved to report out HB 5148 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 7-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Fox.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Johnsen, Thompson.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5149. The motion prevailed 10-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox,
Johnsen, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Edwards moved to report out HB 5149 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 8-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Young, Coffia, Glanville, Arbit, Edwards, MacDonell, Wozniak, Fox.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Johnsen, Thompson.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Young adjourned the meeting at
3:33 PM.
Representative Stephanie A. Young, Chair
Hazel Campbell-Crawley
Committee Clerk
hcrawley@house.mi.gov


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TAX POLICY
REP. CYNTHIA NEELEY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 8, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Tax Policy was called to order by Chair Neeley.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price,
VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Absent: Rep. Markkanen.
Excused: Rep. Markkanen.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from November 1, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 175 before the committee:
SB 175
(Sen. Santana)
A bill to amend 1893 PA 206, entitled "The
general property tax act," by amending section
27b (MCL 211.27b), as amended by 2012 PA 382.
Nick Cook, representing Senator Santana's Office, and Alvin Horhn, representing the City of
Detroit, testified in support of SB 175. Questions and discussion followed.
Alan Fox, representing the Michigan Association of County Treasurers, testified in support of
SB 175. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on SB 175, but did not wish to
speak:
Peter Morman, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 175, but did not wish to speak:
Amanda Tomich, representing the Michigan Assessors Association.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 175. The motion prevailed 7-4-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price.
Nays: Reps. VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Pass: None.
Representative Price moved to report out SB 175 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 7-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Neeley, Farhat, Brixie, Brenda Carter, Whitsett, Grant, Price.
Nays: Reps. VanWoerkom, Outman, Tisdel, Hoadley.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4691 before the committee:
HB 4691
(Rep. Aiyash)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.847) by adding
section 280.
Representative Aiyash, and Christopher Miller, representing the National Coalition for
Community Capital, testified in support of HB 4691. Questions and discussion followed.
Jenan Jondy, representing the Michigan State University Economic Development
Administration Center, testified in support of HB 4691. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4691, but did not wish to speak:
Jacob Manning, representing the Small Business Association of Michigan.
John LaMacchia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4691, but did not wish to speak:
James Hohman, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Representative Whitsett moved to excuse Representative Markkanen from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Neeley adjourned the meeting at
12:52 PM.
Representative Cynthia Neeley, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


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MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, November 8, 2023, at 8:30
a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 365 (Sen. Hertel).
2. Reported HB 4885 (S-1) (Rep. McKinney) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4923 (Rep. Aragona) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4167 (S-1) (Rep. Morgan) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:43 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from November 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized SB 365.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 365:
Erik Castaneda, 1800 Contacts – Support
Dr. Kelly Kruk, Citizen – Support
Dr. Jennifer Schad and Dr. Erica Johnson Carder, Michigan Optometric Association – Oppose
Monica Martinez, Michigan Society of Eye Physicians and Surgeons – Neutral
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 365:
Aaron Porter, Eye Care Partners – Oppose
The Chair invited Rep.(s) McKinney and Aragona to summarize HB 4885 and HB 4923.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4885 and HB 4923:
Rich Farran, The Healthcare Association of Michigan – Support
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Michelle Berryman, Medilodge – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4885 (S-
1):
Mack Jones, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4885
and HB 4923:
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Oppose
Elizabeth Kelly Byrd, SEIU Michigan – Support
Tony Des Chenes, Leading Age of Michigan – Support
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of HB 4885.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4885. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to report the (S-1) version of HB 4885 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Webber to report HB 4923 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of HB 4167.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4167. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, and Huizenga
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4167:
Elizabeth Kutter, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
Laura Bonnell, The Bonnell Foundation – Support
Colleen Kelly Ford – Support
Stephen Rapundalo, MichBio – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to report the (S-1) version of HB 4167 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, and Huizenga
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair announced that SB 633 through SB 638 were being removed from the meeting's agenda.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:36 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 7, 2024
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