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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REP. KARA HOPE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 31, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Criminal Justice was called to order by Chair Hope.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou,
Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Absent: Rep. Breen.
Excused: Rep. Breen.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 24, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5075 before the committee:
HB 5075
(Rep. Bezotte)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending sections
520c, 520d, 520e, and 520g (MCL 750.520c,
750.520d, 750.520e, and 750.520g), sections
520c, 520d, and 520e as amended by 2012 PA
372.
Representative Bezotte testified in support of HB 5075. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5075, but did not wish to speak:
Jess Averill, representing the the Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and
Treatment Board.
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan.
Matt Saxton, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association.
Cheryl Collins, representing the Victims of Gerald Sutter.
The Chair laid HB 4482, HB 4483, HB 4484, HB 4485, HB 4486 and HB 4487 before the
committee:
HB 4482
(Rep. Brixie)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section
5851b (MCL 600.5851b), as added by 2018 PA
183.
HB 4483
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section 5805
(MCL 600.5805), as amended by 2018 PA 183.
HB 4484
(Rep. Arbit)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending sections
6431 and 6452 (MCL 600.6431 and 600.6452),
section 6431 as amended by 2020 PA 42 and
section 6452 as amended by 2020 PA 44.
HB 4485
(Rep. Miller)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 24 of
chapter VII (MCL 767.24), as amended by 2018
PA 182.
HB 4486
(Rep. Whitsett)
A bill to amend 1964 PA 170, entitled "An act to
make uniform the liability of municipal
corporations, political subdivisions, and the state,
its agencies and departments, officers, employees,
and volunteers thereof, and members of certain
boards, councils, and task forces when engaged in
the exercise or discharge of a governmental
function, for injuries to property and persons; to
define and limit this liability; to define and limit
the liability of the state when engaged in a
proprietary function; to authorize the purchase of
liability insurance to protect against loss arising
out of this liability; to provide for defending
certain claims made against public officers,
employees, and volunteers and for paying
damages sought or awarded against them; to
provide for the legal defense of public officers,
employees, and volunteers; to provide for
reimbursement of public officers and employees
for certain legal expenses; and to repeal acts and
parts of acts," by amending section 7 (MCL
691.1407), as amended by 2013 PA 173, and by
adding section 7d.
HB 4487
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled "Revised
judicature act of 1961," by amending section 6431
(MCL 600.6431), as amended by 2020 PA 42.
Representative Brixie testified in support of HB 4482, HB 4483, HB 4484, HB 4485, HB
4486 and HB 4487. Questions and discussion followed.
Greg Guggemos, representing himself, testified in support of HB 4482, HB 4483, HB 4484,
HB 4485, HB 4486 and HB 4487.
Shawn Sutherlin, representing himself, testified in support of HB 4482, HB 4483, HB 4484,
HB 4485, HB 4486 and HB 4487.
Cheryl Collins, representing the victims of Gerald Sutter, testified in support of HB 4482, HB
4483, HB 4484, HB 4485, HB 4486 and HB 4487.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4482, HB 4483, HB 4484, HB 4485,
HB 4486 and HB 4487, but did not wish to speak:
Jess Averill, representing the Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and
Treatment Board.
Mitch Albers, representing the Michigan Association for Justice.
Flannery Houston, Director of Programs, representing Rise.
Mary Pollock, representing the American Association of University Women of Michigan.
Peg Reali and Stephen Olsick, representing Reali Law, APC.
Peg Reali and Robert O., representing Reali Law, APC.
Kathryn Robb, representing CHILD USAdvocacy.
Heath B. Lowry, representing the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic & Sexual
Violence.
Zoey Brewer, representing the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network.
Jill Kopec, representing Grewal Law, PLLC.
Julie Cooper, representing herself.
Frederick Michael Pierce, representing himself.
Shawn Sutherlin, representing himself.
Hannah Smith, representing herself.
Pamela Bergevin, representing herself.
Cassie McQuater, representing herself.
Guy Irwin, representing himself.
Susan Maroney, representing herself.
Daniel Farison, representing himself.
Brenda Coates, representing herself.
Greg Derr, representing himself.
Melanie Sakoda, representing herself.
Brian Horn, representing himself.
Jennifer Szenay, representing herself.
Devon Coates, representing themselves.
Cahterine Huebner, representing herself.
Lu Anne Szenay, representing herself.
Susan Perrier, representing herself.
Mary Beth Ersig, representing herself.
Kristen Sutherlin, representing herself.
Erica Sellers, representing herself.
Kathleen Hamrick, representing herself.
Carrie Sayer, representing herself.
Sara Wolf, representing herself.
John Karagoulis, representing himself.
Tashina Suzuki, representing herself.
Amy Lauter, representing herself.
Isabelle Brourman, representing herself.
Catherine Hinkle, representing herself.
Stephen DeBruyne, representing himself.
Krystin Krenitsky, representing herself.
Erin McLoughlin, representing herself.
Paige Sayer, representing herself.
Logan Sayer, representing himself.
Robin Gelfenbien, representing herself.
Jane Lieberman, representing herself.
Diane Hill, representing herself.
Christine Arbogast, representing herself.
Ben Sayer, representing himself.
Robert Barrett, representing himself.
Crystal Barrett, representing herself.
Brianna Monroe, representing herself.
Richard Thomas, representing himself.
Jeff Tirrell, representing himself.
Amy Lowman, representing herself.
Christine Beals, representing herself.
Nadja Tirrell, representing herself.
Amelia Brown, representing herself.
Andrew Campbell, representing himself.
Elizabeth Abdnour, representing herself.
Bobby Huebner, representing himself.
Shaina Mahler, representing herself.
Patrick Ersig, representing himself.
John Nardecchia, representing himself.
Deborah Unger, representing herself.
Jill Berti, representing herself.
Jenna Dioguardi, representing herself.
Tyler Dyke, representing himself.
Kelly Goldberg, representing herself.
Catherine Filippov, representing herself.
Terrence Hissong, representing himself.
Marilyn Wakefield, representing herself.
Guy Irwin, representing himself.
Gerald Sobel, representing himself.
Stacie Adams, representing herself.
Joseph Bellgowan, representing himself.
April Millward, representing herself.
Emily Brourman, representing herself.
Kathryn McQuater, representing herself.
Jay Sefton, representing himself.
Arianna Clark, representing herself.
Bryan Derr, representing himself.
Linda Cobe, representing herself.
Megan K. Farison, representing herself.
Mark Mazzullo, representing himself.
Katherine McMahan, representing herself.
Patrick James Ersig, representing himself.
Joe Johnston, representing himself.
Christie Marlene, representing herself.
Maya Crosman, representing herself.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4482, HB 4483, HB 4484, HB
4485, HB 4486 and HB 4487, but did not wish to speak:
Dan Hurley, representing the Michigan Association of State Universities.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4482, HB 4485 and HB 4486, but
did not wish to speak:
John Severson, representing the Michigan Association of Intermediate School
Administrators.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Matt Schueller, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents and
Administrators.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4482, but did not wish to speak:
Brian Hurtekant, representing all survivors.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4482, but did not wish to speak:
Tom Hickson, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
Brian Broderick, representing the Michigan Association of Non Public Schools.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4485, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Saxton, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4485, but did not wish to speak:
Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4486, but did not wish
to speak:
Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4486, but did not wish to speak:
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals.
At 9:53 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:55 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Filler offered the following amendments to HB 4482:
1. Amend page 2, line 18, after "or" by striking out "section" and inserting "or sections
5805".
2. Amend page 2, line 19, after "who" by inserting a comma and "while a minor,".
3. Amend page 2, line 20, after "conduct" by inserting "after December 31, 1996 but".
4. Amend page 2, line 20, after "before" by inserting "2 years before".
5. Amend page 2 line 21, after "the" by striking out "2023".
6. Amend page 2, line 21, after "that" by striking out "amended" and inserting "added".
7. Amend page 2, line 22, after "section" by striking out "is revived and the individual".
8. Amend page 2, line 24, by striking out "before 2 years" and inserting "within 90 days".
9. Amend page 2, line 24, after the second "the" by striking out "2023".
10. Amend page 2, line 25, after "that" by striking out "amended" and inserting "added".
11. Amend page 2, line 25, after "section" by striking out the period and inserting "if the
person alleged to have committed the criminal sexual conduct was convicted of criminal
sexual conduct against any person under section 520b of the Michigan penal code, 1931 PA
328, MCL 750.520b, and the defendant admitted either of the following:
(a) That the defendant was in a position of authority over the victim as the victim's physician
and used that authority to coerce the victim to submit.
(b) That the defendant engaged in purported medical treatment or examination of the victim
in a manner that is, or for purposes that are, medically recognized as unethical or
unacceptable.".
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4482. The motion did not
prevail 5-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Tyrone Carter moved to report out HB 4482 with recommendation. The
motion prevailed 7-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Mueller.
Representative Young moved to report out HB 4483 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Mueller.
Representative Arbit moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4484. The motion prevailed 7-0-
5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to HB 4484 (H-1):
1. Amend page 2, line 12, by striking out all of enacting section 1 and renumbering the
remaining enacting section.
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4484. The motion did not prevail
5-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Dievendorf moved to report out HB 4484 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 7-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: None.
At 10:02 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:07 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to HB 4485:
1. Amend page 5, following line 18, by inserting:
"(12) The changes made to the limitation periods under this section by the 2023
amendatory act that added this subsection apply to offenses committed on or after the
effective date of the 2023 amendatory act that added this subsection and do not apply
retroactively to an offense committed before that date.".
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4485. The motion prevailed 12-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou, Filler,
Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Tsernoglou moved to report HB 4485 as amended, as substitute (H-1). The
motion prevailed 7-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: None.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4486. The motion prevailed
7-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to HB 4486 (H-3):
1. Amend page 5, line 20, by striking out all of subsection (4) and renumbering the remaining
subsection.
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4486. The motion did not prevail
5-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Andrews moved to report out HB 4486 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-3). The motion prevailed 7-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Mueller.
Representative Young moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4487. The motion prevailed 7-
0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Representative Filler offered the following amendment to HB 4487 (H-1):
1. Amend page 2, line 23, by striking out all of enacting section 1.
Representative Filler moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4487. The motion did not prevail
5-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Filler, Mueller, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Nays: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Pass: None.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 4487 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 7-4-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hope, Andrews, Tyrone Carter, Young, Arbit, Dievendorf, Tsernoglou.
Nays: Reps. Filler, Bezotte, Harris, BeGole.
Pass: Rep. Mueller.
Representative Dievendorf moved to excuse Representative Breen from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hope adjourned the meeting at
10:14 AM.
Representative Kara Hope, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov


location: Room 326, House Office Building

meeting_state: held

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SMALL BUSINESS
REP. JASON M HOSKINS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 31, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Economic Development and Small Business was called to order by
Chair Hoskins.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
The Chair laid HB 5187 before the committee:
HB 5187
(Rep. Hood)
A bill to create a research and development tax
credit program; to provide for the administration
of the research and development tax credit
program; to encourage research and development
in this state; to determine eligibility and enter into
agreements for certain tax credits; to prescribe the
powers and duties of certain state agencies,
boards, and departments; to assess and collect
certain fees.
Representative Liberati moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5187. The motion prevailed 8-
0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Representative Miller offered the following amendment to HB 5187:
1. Amend page 2, line 1, after "tax" by inserting "act".
Representative Miller moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5187 (H-1). The motion
prevailed 13-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller, Tisdel,
VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Coffia moved to report HB 5187 as amended, as substitute (H-2). The motion
prevailed 8-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5187, but did not wish to speak:
Kate Skaggs, representing Economic Development Leaders for MI.
The Chair laid HB 5104, HB 5105, HB 5106 and HB 5107 before the committee:
HB 5104
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 270, entitled "Michigan
strategic fund act," by amending sections 5, 9, 88s,
and 88t (MCL 125.2005, 125.2009, 125.2088s,
and 125.2088t), section 5 as amended by 2023 PA
24, section 9 as amended and section 88s as added
by 2021 PA 136, and section 88t as added by 2021
PA 134, and by adding sections 88u and 88v.
HB 5105
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 1921 PA 2, entitled "An act to
promote the efficiency of the government of the
state, to create a state administrative board, to
define the powers and duties thereof, to provide
for the transfer to said board of powers and duties
now vested by law in other boards, commissions,
departments and officers of the state, and for the
abolishing of certain of the boards, commissions,
departments and offices, whose powers and duties
are hereby transferred," by amending section 3
(MCL 17.3), as amended by 2021 PA 143.
HB 5106
(Rep. Hoskins)
A bill to amend 2000 PA 489, entitled "Michigan
trust fund act," by amending sections 2 and 4
(MCL 12.252 and 12.254), section 2 as amended
by 2022 PA 83 and section 4 as added by 2021 PA
137.
HB 5107
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," by amending section 695 (MCL
206.695), as amended by 2023 PA 4.
Representative Grant moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5104. The motion prevailed 8-5-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Whitsett moved to report out HB 5104 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Neeley moved to report out HB 5105 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Liberati moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5106. The motion prevailed 8-
5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Miller moved to report out HB 5106 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
Representative Grant moved to report out HB 5107 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5104, HB 5105, HB 5106 and HB
5107, but did not wish to speak:
Jared Fleisher, representing the Rocket Companies.
Jessica AcMoody, representing the Community Economic Development Association of
Michigan.
Jen Rigterink, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
The Chair laid HB 5095 before the committee:
HB 5095
(Rep. Andrews)
A bill to amend 2018 PA 540, entitled "Economic
development incentive evaluation act," by
amending section 3 (MCL 18.1753).
Representative Liberati moved to report out HB 5095 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-5-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Hoskins, Grant, Whitsett, Neeley, Liberati, Coffia, Farhat, Miller.
Nays: Reps. Tisdel, VanWoerkom, Martin, Roth, St. Germaine.
Pass: None.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5095, but did not wish to speak:
Jessica AcMoody, representing the Community Economic Development Association of
Michigan.
Representative Farhat moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 24, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Hoskins adjourned the meeting
at 9:21 AM.
Representative Jason Hoskins, Chair
Nicholas Gewirtz
Committee Clerk
ngewirtz@house.mi.gov


location: Room 521, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
REP. MATT KOLESZAR
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 31, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Education was called to order by Chair Koleszar.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela, Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
Absent: Rep. Wendzel.
Excused: Rep. Wendzel.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 395 and SB 396 before the committee:
SB 395
(Sen. Polehanki)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending sections
1230b, 1249, 1249a, 1249b, and 1280f (MCL
380.1230b, 380.1249, 380.1249a, 380.1249b, and
380.1280f), section 1230b as added by 1996 PA
189, section 1249 as amended by 2019 PA 6,
section 1249a as amended by 2015 PA 173,
section 1249b as amended by 2019 PA 5, and
section 1280f as amended by 2023 PA 7; and to
repeal acts and parts of acts.
SB 396
(Sen. McDonald Rivet)
A bill to amend 1937 (Ex Sess) PA 4, entitled "An
act relative to continuing tenure of office of
certificated teachers in public educational
institutions; to provide for probationary periods; to
regulate discharges or demotions; to provide for
resignations and leaves of absence; to create a
state tenure commission and to prescribe the
powers and duties thereof; and to prescribe
penalties for violation of the provisions of this
act," by amending section 4 of article I, sections
2a and 3b of article II, and section 3 of article III
(MCL 38.74, 38.82a, 38.83b, and 38.93), section 4
of article I as amended by 2011 PA 100 and
sections 2a and 3b of article II as added and
section 3 of article III as amended by 2011 PA
101.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to SB 395. The motion prevailed 9-
0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on SB 395 and SB 396, but did
not wish to speak:
Stephanie Szymas, representing the Education Advocates of West Michigan.
Matt Schueller, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents and
Administrators.
Mike Latvis, representing the Wayne County Regional Educational Service Agency.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 395 and SB 396, but did not wish to
speak:
Sheryl Kennedy, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to SB 395 and SB 396, but did not wish
to speak:
Dr. Molly Macek, representing the Mackinac Center of Public Policy.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 395, but did not wish to speak:
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Megan DeKraker, representing the National Heritage Academies.
Representative Wegela moved to report out SB 395 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
2). The motion prevailed 9-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
Representative Churches moved to report out SB 396 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5231, HB 5232, HB 5233 and HB 5234 before the committee:
HB 5231
(Rep. Weiss)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section 503
(MCL 380.503), as amended by 2023 PA 34.
HB 5232
(Rep. Young)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section 553
(MCL 380.553), as amended by 2011 PA 277.
HB 5233
(Rep. Steckloff)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section 1311e
(MCL 380.1311e), as amended by 2009 PA 205.
HB 5234
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section 523
(MCL 380.523), as amended by 2011 PA 277.
Representative Weiss testified in support of HBs 5231-5234. Questions and discussion
followed.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5231, HB 5232, HB
5233 and HB 5234, but did not wish to speak:
Dan Quisenberry, representing the Michigan Association of Public School Academies.
Jason Mancini, representing the Michigan Council of Charter School Authorizers.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5231, HB 5232, HB 5233 and HB
5234, but did not wish to speak:
Sheryl Kennedy, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5231, HB 5232, HB 5233 and HB
5234, but did not wish to speak:
Dr. Molly Macek, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Beth DeShone, representing the Great Lakes Education Project Education Fund.
Representative Shannon moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5231. The motion prevailed
9-0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
Representative Stone moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5232. The motion prevailed 9-0-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5233. The motion prevailed 9-
0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5234. The motion prevailed 9-
0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Koleszar, Churches, Shannon, Stone, Weiss, Glanville, Conlin, Edwards,
Wegela.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Greene, Markkanen, Paquette, Johnsen.
The Chair laid HB 5269 before the committee:
HB 5269
(Rep. Koleszar)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending sections 504a,
506, 525, 527, 557, 560, 1311h, and 1311k (MCL
380.504a, 380.506, 380.525, 380.527, 380.557,
380.560, 380.1311h, and 380.1311k), section 504a
as amended and sections 525 and 527 as added by
2003 PA 179, section 506 as added by 1993 PA
362, sections 557 and 560 as added by 2009 PA
205, section 1311h as amended by 2012 PA 620,
and section 1311k as added by 1999 PA 23.
At 9:15 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 9:15 AM, Majority Vice Chair Churches called the committee back to order.
Representative Koleszar testified in support of HB 5269. Questions and discussion followed.
At 9:22 AM, Majority Vice Chair Churches laid the committee at ease.
At 9:22 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5269, but did not wish to speak:
Beth DeShone, representing the Great Lakes Education Project Education Fund.
Dr. Molly Macek, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Representative Greene moved to excuse Representative Wendzel from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Koleszar adjourned the meeting
at 9:22 AM.
Representative Matt Koleszar, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov


location: Room 327, House Office Building

evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
REP. PENELOPE TSERNOGLOU
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 31, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Elections was called to order by Chair Tsernoglou.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches, Smit, DeBoyer.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Smit moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 24, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 529 before the committee:
SB 529
(Sen. Moss)
A bill to amend 1954 PA 116, entitled "Michigan
election law," by amending sections 46, 47, 581,
795c, 822, 841, 842, and 846 (MCL 168.46,
168.47, 168.581, 168.795c, 168.822, 168.841,
168.842, and 168.846), section 46 as amended by
2002 PA 431, section 795c as amended by 2015
PA 268, section 822 as amended by 2018 PA 614,
section 841 as amended by 2015 PA 197, and
section 842 as amended by 2018 PA 382, and by
adding section 814.
Senator Moss testified in support of SB 529.
Lata Nott, representing the Campaign Legal Center, testified in support of SB 529. Questions
and discussion followed.
Kevin Johnson, representing the Election Reformers Network, testified in support of SB 529.
Questions and discussion followed.
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State, testified in support of SB 529.
Erica Peresman, representing Promote the Vote, testified in support of SB 529.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 529, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Patton, representing Protect Democracy.
Andy Craig, representing the Rainey Center Freedom Project.
Steve Szymas, representing Secure Democracy.
Ricky Bicknell, representing Voters Not Politicians.
Merissa Kovach, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to SB 529, but did not wish to speak:
Sheri Ritchie, representing Michigan Fair Elections, Pure Integrity Michigan Elections,
Stand Up Michigan, and The Freedom Alliance Project.
Representative Wegela moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 529. The motion prevailed 6-2-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
Representative Hope moved to report out SB 529 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Tsernoglou, Wegela, Hope, Koleszar, Byrnes, Churches.
Nays: Reps. Smit, DeBoyer.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Tsernoglou adjourned the
meeting at 10:55 AM.
Representative Penelope Tsernoglou, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. NATE SHANNON
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, October 31, 2023
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Transportation, Mobility and Infrastructure was called to order by
Chair Shannon.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
The Chair laid SB 533 before the committee:
SB 533
(Sen. Geiss)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending sections 217, 222, and
233a (MCL 257.217, 257.222, and 257.233a),
sections 217 and 233a as amended by 2022 PA
224 and section 222 as amended by 2014 PA 290.
Representative Conlin moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 24, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Brian Merlos, representing the Office of Senator Geiss, and Melissa Horste, representing the
Michigan Department of State, testified in support of SB 533. Questions and discussion
followed.
Representative Coleman moved to report out SB 533 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman, Roth, Bruck.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Kunse, St. Germaine.
The Chair laid SB 464 before the committee:
SB 464
(Sen. McMorrow)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 803r (MCL
257.803r), as amended by 2023 PA 129 and by
adding section 803s.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on SB 464, but did not wish to
speak:
Melissa Horste, representing the Michigan Department of State.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 464, but did not wish to speak:
Ron Brenke, representing the American Council of Engineering Companies of Michigan.
Emily Collins, representing the Office of Senator McMorrow, testified in support of SB 464.
Representative Hoskins moved to report out SB 464 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
9-0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Shannon, MacDonell, Coleman, Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Hoskins, Miller,
Outman.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Roth, Bruck, Kunse, St. Germaine.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Shannon adjourned the meeting at
10:52 AM.
Representative Nate Shannon, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. ERIKA GEISS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI
SEN. KRISTEN MCDONALD RIVET
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
SENATOR DAYNA POLEHANKI
CHAIR
310 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7350
FAX: (517) 373-9228
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 31, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Education was scheduled for Tuesday, October 31, 2023, at 1:30 p.m., in
the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 5021 (Rep. Matt Koleszar) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:33 p.m.. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, McDonald Rivet, Damoose
and Johnson, a quorum was present.
The Chair instructed the clerk to read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee
regarding HB 5021:
Tammy Daenzer, MEA – Support
Jenell Manskeld, AFT Michigan – Support
Peter Spadafore, MI Alliance for Student Opportunity – Support
David Randels, Oakland Schools – Support
Neil DeSouza, Office of Retirement Services/DTMB – Support
James Hohman, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposition
Trevor Kubatzke, Lake Michigan College – Opposition
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report HB 5021 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Polehanki, Sen.(s) Geiss, Chang, Camilleri, and McDonald Rivet.
Nays: Sen.(s) Damoose and Johnson.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:36 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 02/06/24
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evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. MALLORY MCMORROW, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. EDWARD MCBROOM, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
SENATOR SAM SINGH
CHAIR
S-8 CAPITOL BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-3447
FAX: (517) 373-5849
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 31, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Oversight was scheduled for Tuesday, October 31, 2023, at 1:00 p.m., in
the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 613 (S-2) (Sen. Moss) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 614 (S-2) (Sen. Singh) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 615 (Sen. Huizenga) with recommendation.
4. Reported SB 616 (Sen. McBroom) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, McBroom and Lindsey, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 613. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, and McBroom.
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to report the (S-2) version of SB 613 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, and McBroom.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 614. The vote was as
follows:
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Yeas: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, and McBroom.
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to report the (S-2) version of SB 614 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, and McBroom.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McMorrow to report SB 615 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, and McBroom.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. McBroom to report SB 616 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Singh, Sen.(s) McMorrow, Geiss, Polehanki, and McBroom.
Nays: Sen.(s) Lindsey.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:12 p.m.
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location: the 403 Room of the Capitol Building

evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSEY, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA
SEN. JOHN DAMOOSE
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND HUMAN
SERVICES
SENATOR JEFF IRWIN
CHAIR
5100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-2406
FAX: (517) 373-5679
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 31, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Housing and Human Services was scheduled for Tuesday, October 31,
2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 403 Room of the Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding HB 4085 (Rep. Stone).
2. Testimony regarding HB 4086 (Rep. Roth).
3. Testimony regarding SB 549 (Sen. Chang).
4. Testimony regarding SB 550 (Sen. Bayer).
5. Testimony regarding SB 551 (Sen. Chang).
6. Testimony regarding SB 552 (Sen. Irwin).
7. Testimony regarding SB 553 (Sen. Wojno).
8. Testimony regarding SB 554 (Sen. Cavanagh).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:08 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Irwin, Sen.(s) Santana, Cavanagh, Bayer, Shink, Chang, Cherry, Geiss,
Lindsey, Hoitenga, and Damoose, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from October 17, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Rep. Stone to summarize HB 4085.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4085 and HB 4086:
Kellie Rutledge, Ozone House – Support
Ben Moe, Dochas II and The Michigan Network for Youth and Families – Support
The Chair invited Rep. Roth to summarize HB 4086.
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
HB 4085 and HB 4086:
Melina Brann, National Association of Social Workers – Support
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Danielle Sirianni, Michigan County Social Services Association – Support
Rodd Monts, School House Connection – Support
Peri Stone-Palmquist, Student Advocacy Center – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Paul Stankewitz, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
Kristin Murphy, Family Youth Interventions – Support
Harrison Gloss, Youth Protection Council Innerlink – Support
The Chair invited Sen.(s) Chang, Bayer, Wojno, and Cavanagh to summarize SB 549 – SB 554.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 549 to SB 554:
Sylvia Orduno, People's Water Board – Support
Bonnifer Ballard, Michigan Section of the American Water Works Association – Support
Maureen Taylor, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Monica Lewis-Patrick, We the People of Detroit – No Position
Gary Brown and Debra Pospiech, Detroit Water and Sewerage Department – Support
Jim Nash and Kelsey Cook, Oakland County Water Resources Commissioner – Support
Lisa Bolen, Northeast Michigan Community Services Agency – Support
Kerry Baughman, Northwest Michigan Community Action – Support
Christy McGillivray, Sierra Club – Support
Sean McBrearty, Clean Water Action – Support
Kristy Meyer, Water Equals Life – Neutral
Gwendolyn Howard, Redeem Detroit – Neutral
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 549 to SB
554:
Norrell Hemphill, Great Lakes Environmental Law Center – Neutral
Iman Steve Elturk, The Islamic Organization of North America – Support
Debra Taylor, Detroit Resident – Neutral
Cecily McClellan, Detroit Resident – Neutral
Anthony Spaniola, Great Lakes PFAS Action Network – Neutral
Rebecca Meunick, Great Lakes Regional – Neutral
Ann Baughman, Freshwater Future – Neutral
Luke Wilson, Center for Water Security and Cooperation – Neutral
Valerie Jean, Citizen – Neutral
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 554:
Brad Ward, Michigan Realtors – Oppose
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
SB 549 to SB 554:
Nkenge Browner, Mothering Justice – Neutral
John Fournier, City of Ann Arbor – Support
Rich Bowmen, The Nature Conservancy – Support
Nick Occhipinti, Michigan League of Conservation Voters – Support
Aldontez McIntyre, Water Bill – Support
Arthurlene Ayers Smith, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Wanda Kennery, Affordable Water – Support
Barry Rubin, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
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Thomas Visco, Michigan Community Action – Support
Liz Kirkwood, For the Love of Water – Support
Saunteel Jenkins, The Heat and Warmth Fund – Support
Amanda Klein, United Way for Southeast Michigan – Support
Mike Campagnoni, Michigan Water Environment Association – Support
Ronnie Waters, People Water Board Coalition – No Position
Roslyn Walker, Affordable Water Bill – No Position
John Lindley, Michigan Manufactured Housing Association – Oppose
Jeff Wright, Genesee County Drain Commissioner – Oppose
Rev. Ed Rowe, Citizen – Support
Cyndi Roper, Natural Resources Defense Council – Support
Rev. Kenita Harris, Detroit Bible Tabernacle – Support
Paul Jackson, East Michigan Environmental Action Council – Support
Dr. Paul von Oeyen, United Church of Christ and Detroit Area Social Justice Team – Support
Mustapha Elturk, Islamic Organization of North America – Support
Alice Jennings, National Coalition for Educational Affordable Water – Support
Rev. Edward Pinkney, Black Autonomy Network Community Organization and Benton Harbor
Community Water Council – Support
Melissa Mays, Water You Fighting For and Flint Rising – Support
Nayylrah Shariff, Flint Rising – Support
Carolyn Baker, General Baker Institute – Support
Val Baker, General Baker Institute – Support
Randy Block, Michigan Unitarian Universalist Social Justice Network – Support
Kim Redigan, Michigan Coalition for Human Rights – Support
Mary Ellen Howard, Sisters of Mercy – Support
Mary Grant, Food and Water Watch – Support
Valerie Jean Blakely, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Nicole Hill, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Roslyn Walker, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Alton McIntyre, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Diane Weckerle, Michigan Citizens for Water Conservation – Support
Rondi Brower, Detroit Jews for Justice – Support
Lou Novak, Detroit Greens – Support
Paul Perez, Central United Methodist Church of Detroit – Support
Gracie Wooten, Highland Park Human Rights Coalition – Support
Marian Kramer, Citizen – Support
Ann Rall, General Baker Institute – Support
Willie Brake, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Fred Vitale, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Gwendolyn Gaines, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Bill Wylie-Kellermann, St. Peter's Episcopal Church – Support
Soloman Medintz, Detroit Jews for Justice – Support
Eugenia Darnell, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Evette Mungerbey, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Pat Harris, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Augustus Williamson, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Eleanor Garnalski, Detroit Jews for Justice – Support
Allie Zoff, Detroit Jews for Justice – Support
Briana Parker, Michigan Welfare Rights Organization – Support
Jim Perkinson, Ecumenical Theological Seminary – Support
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Victor Arbulu, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Wanda Kennedy, People's Water Board Coalition – Support
Rabbi David Polsky, Detroit Jews for Justice – Support
Elana Parr, Citizen – Support
Valarie Franklin, Citizen – Support
Chloe Weisberg, Citizen – Support
Emma Wine, Citizen – Support
Susannah Goodman, Citizen – Support
Amy Hecht, Citizen – Support
Payge Lindow, Citizen – Support
Matthew Harmon, Citizen – Support
Anne Haddox, Citizen – Support
Valeriya Epshteyn, Citizen – Support
Sharif Ahmed Krabti, Citizen – Support
Rachel Levy, Citizen – Support
Morgan Hoffman, Citizen – Support
Gabriel Slabosky, Citizen – Support
Maria Matta, Citizen – Support
Kira Appleman, Citizen – Support
Maya Levy, Citizen – Support
Naomi Baum-Skorja, Citizen – Support
Thea Spindel, Citizen – Support
Michael Spaeth, Citizen – Support
Noah Levinson, Citizen – Support
Ella Edelstein, Citizen – Support
Steve Elturk, Islamic Organization of North America – Support
Naveed Ashraf, Islamic Organization of North America – Support
Imad Hamad, American Human Rights Council – Support
Mohammed Sharif, Islamic Organization of North America – Support
Nabeela Sharif, Pakistan Women's Association of Michigan – Support
Erum Hussain, Pakistan Women's Association of Michigan – Support
Jamshed Malik, APCA – Support
Abdallah Sheik, Michigan Muslim Community Council – Support
Bandar Bawazir, American Human Rights Council – Support
Souad Soubra, Islamic Organization of North America – Support
Irene Walter, Beacon Unitarian Universalist Congregation – Support
Horst Schmidt, Keweenaw Unitarian Universalist Fellowship – Support
Cindy Clement, Birmingham U Congregation – Support
Colleen Cavanaugh, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Lisa Crawford, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Patricia Rittinger, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Bette Moen, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Ben Pulver, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Cheryl Courage, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
C.T. Fitzpatrick, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Mary Jo Ebert, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Ann Throop, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Elizabeth Cranston, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Kristen Schreck, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Heidi Kapsokavathis, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
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Joanne Schouten, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Mary Samal, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Tanya Norhaus, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Lawrence Wisniewski, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Catherine Compton, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Virginia Yates-Luckins, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Judith Amir, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Richard Cantley, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Barbara Eschwer, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Peggy Woehrlen, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Brian Schandevel, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Sylvia Whitmer, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Patricia Schwing, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Daniel Kosuth, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Rob Davidson, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Valerie Phillips, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Taylor Phillips, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Shep Jenks, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Stephanie Janes, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Jennifer Kateczka, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Larry Freedman, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Mary Kacir Huntington, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Burr Huntington, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Harper West, Birmingham Unitarian Congregation – Support
Joanne Sheldon, U.U. Church of East Liberty – Support
G.G. Gordon, U.U. Congregation Marquette – Support
Barbara Stevenson, Northwest Unitarian Universalist Church – Support
Deborah Edford, New Hope U.U. Congregation – Support
Kathy Silver, New Hope U.U. Congregation – Support
Nomi Joyrich, Jews for Secular Democracy – Support
Jennifer Tted, Michigan Unitarian Universalist Social Justice Network – Support
Miriam Epskamp, Unitarian Universalist Community Church Portage – Support
Sofia Hudson, Unitarian Universalist Community Church Portage – Support
Mark Dilley, Citizen – Support
Kevin Mackey, Citizen – Support
Bryan Dilley, Citizen – Support
Lynn Dilley, Citizen – Support
Logan Dilley, Citizen – Support
Lisa Tapert, Citizen – Support
Timothy Tapert, Citizen – Support
Ron Crowell, Unitarian Universalist Community Church Portage – Support
Beverly Folz, Unitarian Universalist Community Church Portage – Support
The following cards were turned in of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding
SB 554:
Erika Farley, Rental Property Owners Association of Michigan – Oppose
Tim Langholz, NFIB – Oppose
Forrest Wall, Apartment Association of Michigan – Oppose
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There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:35 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: November 7, 2023
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evidence_text:
MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 31, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Tuesday,
October 19, 2023, at 2:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4823 (Rep. Wozniak) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4920 (Rep. Fitzgerald) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4476 (S-3) (Rep. Arbit) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4477 (Rep. Puri) with recommendation.
5. Testimony regarding HB 4320 (Rep. MacDonell).
6. Testimony regarding HB 4387 (Rep. MacDonell).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:04 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from the October 19, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4823 (Rep. Wozniak) and HB 4920 (Rep. Fitzgerald), and invited Scott Ray, from
Rep. Wozniak’s office and Chris Herweyer, from Rep. Fitzgerald’s office to summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4823 and 4920:
The Honorable Sandra Harrison, Macomb County Probate Court – Support
The Honorable Jeffery O’Hara, Kent County – Support
Trevor VanDyke, MI Supreme Court Administrative Office – Support
Julie Bratten, Citizen, - Oppose HB 4823
Jody Whie, Citizen – Oppose HB 4823
Cynthia Mifsud, Citizen – Oppose
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4823 and 4920:
Samantha Gibson, Michigan Association of Counties – Support
Lori Luoma, Citizen – Oppose
The Honorable James Biernat, Macomb County Probate Court – Support
Brandee Ritsema, Citizen – Oppose HB 4920
Jack Michael, Citizen – Oppose HB 4823
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4823 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4920 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4476 (S-3) (Rep. Arbit), and HB 4477 (Rep. Puri).
Sen. Johnson offered amendment #1 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #1 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #2 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #2 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #3 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #3 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #4 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #4 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Johnson offered amendment #5 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #5 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #6 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #6 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4476 and 4477:
Mary Pollock, American Association of University Women of Michigan - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-3) version of HB 4476. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4476 (S-3) to the floor with recommendation that
it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4477 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB’s 4320 and 4387 and invited Matthew Dargay, of Rep. MacDonell’s office to
summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4320 and 4387:
Allie Hayes, Citizen – Support
Dawn Hayes, Citizen – Support
Kristine Shuler, Troy Police Department – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4320 and 4387:
Mary Pollock, Michigan State Employee Retirees Association – Support
Nicole Shannon, Michigan Elder Justice Initiative – Support HB 4320
Sherri Boyd, ARC Michigan – Support
Michelle Roberts Disability Rights of Michigan – Support
Heath Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support
Paul Stankewitz, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
Ashley Steffen, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:13 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 11/02/2023


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MEMBERS:
SEN. PAUL WOJNO, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEREMY MOSS
SEN. ROSEMARY BAYER
SEN. SUE SHINK
SEN. MICHELE HOITENGA, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. KEVIN DALEY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 31, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Local Government was scheduled for Tuesday, October 31, 2023, at
1:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Reported SB 480 (S-2) (Sen. Hertel) with recommendation.
2.
Reported HB 4861 (S-1) (rep. Snyder) with recommendation.
3.
Reported HB 4346 (Rep. Coleman) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:03 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Moss, Bayer, Shink, Hoitenga and Daley, a
quorum was present.
The Chairman entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from September 26, 2023.
Without objection the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB 480 (S-2).
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB 480:
Dawn Crandall, Home Builders Association of Michigan - Support
Brad Ward, Michigan Realtors – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Moss to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 480. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Moss, Bayer, Hoitenga and Daley
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Shink
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report SB 480 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Moss, Bayer, Hoitenga and Daley
Nays: Sen. Shink
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
At 1:08 p.m., Sen. Moss left the meeting and did not return.
The Chair brought up HB 4861 (S-1), and invited Jason Colella, of Rep. Snyder’s office to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony regarding HB 4861:
Mark Eisenbarth, Muskegon County Administrator – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4861:
Neil DeSouza, Michigan Department of Technology, Management, and Budget - Neutral
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4861. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Bayer, Shink, Hoitenga and Daley
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bayer to report HB 4861 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Bayer, Shink, Hoitenga and Daley
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4346.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony regarding HB 4346:
Don Taylor, Retired Detroit Police & Fire Association – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4346:
Katie Abraham, MI Municipal Electric Assoc. / Mi Public Power Agency – Support
Brad Biladeau, Municipal Employees Retirement System of MI – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4346 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Wojno, Bayer, Shink, Hoitenga and Daley
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:17 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 11/07/2023


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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
REP. ANGELA WITWER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 1,
2023
9:00
AM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Committee on Appropriations was called to order by Chair Witwer.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Steckloff, Weiss, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder, Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson,
Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn, Schuette, Steele.
Absent: Reps. Puri, Wilson.
Excused: Reps. Puri, Wilson.
Representative O'Neal moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 11, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
Representative Lightner moved to excuse Representatives Puri and Wilson from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4842 before the committee:
HB 4842
(Rep. Price)
A bill to amend 1964 PA 183, entitled "An act
creating the state building authority with power to
acquire, construct, furnish, equip, own, improve,
enlarge, operate, mortgage, and maintain facilities
for the use of the state or any of its agencies; to act
as a developer or co-owner of facilities as a
condominium project for the use of the state or
any of its agencies; to authorize the execution of
leases pertaining to those facilities by the building
authority with the state or any of its agencies; to
authorize the payment of true rentals by the state;
to provide for the issuance of revenue obligations
by the building authority to be paid from the true
rentals to be paid by the state and other resources
and security provided for and pledged by the
building authority; to authorize the creation of
funds; to authorize the conveyance of lands by the
state or any of its agencies for the purposes
authorized in this act; to authorize the appointment
of a trustee for bondholders; to permit remedies
for the benefit of parties in interest; to provide for
other powers and duties of the authority; and to
provide for other matters in relation to the
authority and its obligations," by amending section
8 (MCL 830.418), as amended by 2012 PA 519.
Rob Mass and Andrew Boettcher, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury, testified in
support of HB 4842. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid Legislative Transfer Request 2023-8 and 2024-1 before the Committee.
Representative Morse moved to approve Legislative Transfer Request 2023-8 and 2024-1. The
motion prevailed 15-12-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Witwer, O'Neal, Brixie, Hood, Brabec, Morse, Steckloff, Weiss, Martus,
McKinney, Mentzer, Morgan, Price, Skaggs, Snyder.
Nays: Reps. Lightner, Bollin, Green, Slagh, Beson, Borton, Fink, Cavitt, DeBoer, Kuhn,
Schuette, Steele.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Witwer adjourned the meeting at
9:16 AM.
Representative Angela Witwer, Chair
Dakota Soda
Committee Clerk
dsoda@house.mi.gov


location: Room 519, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND TECHNOLOGY
REP. HELENA SCOTT
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 1, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Energy, Communications, and Technology was called to order by
Chair Scott.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall, Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative McFall moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 25, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid SB 271, SB 273, SB 502 and SB 519 before the committee:
SB 271
(Sen. Geiss)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
by amending the title, the heading of subpart A of
part 2, and sections 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 22, 28, 29,
39, 45, 47, 49, 173, 177, and 191 (MCL 460.1001,
460.1003, 460.1005, 460.1007, 460.1009,
460.1011, 460.1013, 460.1022, 460.1028,
460.1029, 460.1039, 460.1045, 460.1047,
460.1049, 460.1173, 460.1177, and 460.1191), the
title and sections 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 29, 39, 45,
47, 49, 173, and 177 as amended and sections 22
and 28 as added by 2016 PA 342, and by adding
sections 32, 51, 53, 101, and 103.
SB 273
(Sen. Singh)
A bill to amend 2008 PA 295, entitled "Clean and
renewable energy and energy waste reduction act,"
by amending sections 5, 7, 71, 73, 75, 77, 78, 91,
and 93 (MCL 460.1005, 460.1007, 460.1071,
460.1073, 460.1075, 460.1077, 460.1078,
460.1091, and 460.1093), sections 5, 7, 71, 73, 75,
77, 91, and 93 as amended and section 78 as
added by 2016 PA 342, and by adding sections 72,
80, and 80a; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
SB 502
(Sen. Shink)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 3, entitled "An act to
provide for the regulation and control of public
and certain private utilities and other services
affected with a public interest within this state; to
provide for alternative energy suppliers; to provide
for licensing; to include municipally owned
utilities and other providers of energy under
certain provisions of this act; to create a public
service commission and to prescribe and define its
powers and duties; to abolish the Michigan public
utilities commission and to confer the powers and
duties vested by law on the public service
commission; to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state governmental officers and entities;
to provide for the continuance, transfer, and
completion of certain matters and proceedings; to
abolish automatic adjustment clauses; to prohibit
certain rate increases without notice and hearing;
to qualify residential energy conservation
programs permitted under state law for certain
federal exemption; to create a fund; to encourage
the utilization of resource recovery facilities; to
prohibit certain acts and practices of providers of
energy; to allow for the securitization of stranded
costs; to reduce rates; to provide for appeals; to
provide appropriations; to declare the effect and
purpose of this act; to prescribe remedies and
penalties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending sections 6a, 6m, and 6t (MCL 460.6a,
460.6m, and 460.6t), sections 6a and 6m as
amended and section 6t as added by 2016 PA 341,
and by adding section 6aa.
SB 519
(Sen. Singh)
A bill to provide for the adjustment of transition-
impacted workers into new industries; to create
the community and worker economic transition
office in the department of labor and economic
opportunity; to allow the creation of certain
advisory committees; to make certain
appropriations; and to provide for the powers and
duties of certain state governmental officers and
entities.
Senator Singh testified in support of SB 271 and SB 273. Questions and discussion followed.
Senator Shink testified in support of SB 502.
Senator Singh testified in support of SB 519.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters; and Derrell
Slaughter, representing the Natural Resources Defense Council, testified in support of SB
271, SB 273, SB 502 and SB 519.
Justin Carpenter, representing Michigan EIBC, testified in support of SB 271, SB 273 and SB
502. Questions and discussion followed.
Melville Nickerson, representing NRG, testified in opposition to SB 271.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on SB 271, but due to the time
constraints was unable to speak:
Dana Adams, representing the Coalition for Renewable Natural Gas.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 271, but due to the time constraints
was unable to speak:
Angela Seligman, representing the Clean Air Task Force.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 271, but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
Robert Scott, a resident of Montcalm County.
Gary Melow, representing Michigan Biomass.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to SB 271 and SB 502, but due to the
time constraints was unable to speak:
Mike Alaimo, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 271 and SB 273, but did not wish
to speak:
Rod Williamson, representing ABATE.
Stephanie Kreuz, representing Heritage Action.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on SB 271, SB 273, SB 502
and SB 519, but did not wish to speak:
Mike O'Brien, representing the I & M Power Company.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 271, SB 273, SB 502 and SB 519,
but did not wish to speak:
Carlee Knott, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Martin Kushler, representing ACEEE.
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Alexis Blizman, representing the Ecology Center.
Alli Gold Roberts, representing Ceres.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 271, SB 273 and SB 502, but did not
wish to speak:
Courtney Bourgoin, representing Evergreen Action.
Peder Mewis, representing the Clean Grid Alliance.
Ed Rivet, representing the Michigan Conservative Energy Forum.
John Fournier, representing the City of Ann Arbor.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 271, SB 273 and SB 502, but did
not wish to speak:
Andrew Vermeesch, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Jason Hayes, representing the Mackinac Center.
Jacob Manning, representing the Small Business Association of Michigan.
Brad Williams, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
Tim Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to SB 271 and SB 502, but did not wish
to speak:
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 502, but did not wish to speak:
Kevin McKinney, representing the Citizens Utility Board.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 519, but did not wish to speak:
Eli Isaguirre, representing the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to SB 519, but did not wish to speak:
Amanda Fisher, representing the NFIB.
Representative Wendzel offered the following amendment to SB 271:
1. Amend page 6, line 20, after "51." by striking out the balance of the subparagraph.
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt the amendment to SB 271. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Prestin offered the following amendment to SB 271:
1. Amend page 14, line 19, after "(C) " by striking out the balance of the sub-
subparagraph and inserting "Any other biomass.".
Representative Prestin moved to adopt the amendment to SB 271. The motion did not prevail
7-9-1:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, MacDonell,
McFall.
Pass: Rep. Hill.
Representative Outman offered the following amendments to SB 271:
1. Amend page 16, line 2, by striking out "use" and inserting "uses".
2. Amend page 16, line 3, after "steam" by inserting "and that, if installed after the
effective date of the amendatory act that added section 51, was manufactured in the
United States".
Representative Outman moved to adopt the amendments to SB 271. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Schmaltz moved to adopt the following amendment to SB 271:
1. Amend page 59, following line 5, by inserting:
"(3) If statewide average customer electric rate increases after the effective date
of the amendatory act that added this subsection exceed 30%, the commission shall by
order permanently suspend the application of the amendatory act that added this
subsection.".
Representative Schmaltz moved to adopt the amendment to SB 271. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative BeGole offered the following amendment to SB 271:
1. Amend page 59, following line 5, by inserting:
"(3) If statewide average customer electric rate increases for 2025 or any subsequent
calendar year exceed the increase in the Consumer Price Index for that year, the
commission shall by order permanently suspend the application of the amendatory act
that added section 51 and the amendatory act that added section 53.
(4) As used in this section, "Consumer Price Index" means the most comprehensive
index of consumer prices available for this state from the Bureau of Labor Statistics of
the United States Department of Labor.".
Representative BeGole moved to adopt the amendment to SB 271. The motion did not prevail
7-9-1:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell,
McFall.
Pass: Rep. Coleman.
Representative Wendzel offered the following amendment to SB 271:
1. Amend page 59, line 6, after "effect" by striking out the balance of the bill and
inserting "January 1, 2025.".
Representative Wendzel moved to adopt the amendment to SB 271. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Aragona offered the following amendment to SB 271:
1. Amend page 59, line 7, after "law." by inserting "However, this amendatory act
does not take effect until the Midcontinent Independent System Operator issues a report
concluding that this amendatory act will increase or maintain grid reliability.".
Representative Aragona moved to adopt the amendment to SB 271. The motion did not
prevail 7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Andrews moved to report out SB 271 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-7-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: None.
Representative McFall moved to report out SB 273 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-7-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: None.
Representative Greene offered the following amendment to SB 502:
1. Amend page 11, following line 26, by inserting:
"(15) Beginning on the effective date of the amendatory act that added section 6aa,
the commission shall not increase electric rates for public and private schools in this
state until January 1, 2040." and renumbering the remaining subsections.
Representative Greene moved to adopt the amendment to SB 502. The motion did not prevail
7-2-8:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Neeley.
Pass: Reps. Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Byrnes, Churches, Hill, MacDonell, McFall.
Representative Prestin offered the following amendment to SB 502:
1. Amend page 2, following "THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN
ENACT:" by inserting:
"Sec. 1. (1) A commission to be known and designated as the "Michigan public service
commission" is hereby created, which shall consist The Michigan public service
commission is created in the department of licensing and regulatory affairs.
(2) The commission consists of 3 6 members, not more than 2 3 of whom shall be are
members of the same political party, appointed by the governor with the advice and consent
of the senate. At least 1 member of the commission must be a resident of the Upper
Peninsula. In addition to the 1 member who is a resident of the Upper Peninsula, at least
1 member of the commission must be a rate payer who has a residence or business with
average yearly energy costs of less than $100,000.00.
(3) Each member shall of the commission must be a citizen of the United States , and of
the this state. of Michigan, and no member of said A member of the commission shall not
be pecuniarily interested in any public utility or public service person subject to the
jurisdiction and control of the commission. During his a member's term no a member of the
commission shall not serve as an officer or committee member of any political party
organization, or hold any office, or be employed by any other commission, board,
department, or institution in this state. No commission
(4) A member of the commission shall not be retained or employed by any public utility
or public service person subject to the jurisdiction and control of the commission during the
time he while the member is acting as such commissioner, and a member of the
commission or for 6 months thereafter, and no after that time.
(5) A member of the commission , who is a member of the bar of the state State Bar of
Michigan , shall not practice his profession law or act as counselor or attorney in any court of
this state during the time he is while a member of said the commission. : Provided, however,
This shall
(6) This section does not require any commissioner member of the commission to retire
from , or dissolve any partnership , of which he the individual is a member, but said the
partnership , while he is a member of the commission, shall not engage in public utility
practice while the individual is a member of the commission. Immediately upon the taking
effect of this act, the offices of the present members of the Michigan public service
commission are hereby abolished, and the members of the Michigan public service
commission as herein created shall be appointed by the governor with the advice and consent
of the senate, for terms of 6 years each: Provided, That of the members first appointed, 1 shall
be appointed for a term of 2 years, 1 for a term of 4 years, and 1 for a term of 6 years. Upon
the expiration of said terms successors shall be appointed with like qualifications and in like
manner for terms of 6 years each, and until their successors are appointed and qualified.
Vacancies shall be filled in the same manner as is provided for appointment in the first
instance.
(7) Members of the commission shall serve for terms of 6 years or until a successor
is appointed, whichever is later. If a vacancy occurs on the commission, the governor
shall make an appointment for the unexpired term in the same manner as the original
appointment.".
Representative Prestin moved to adopt the amendment to SB 502. The motion did not prevail
7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative Prestin offered the following amendment to SB 502:
1. Amend page 2, following "THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN
ENACT:" by inserting:
"Sec. 1. (1) A commission to be known and designated as the "Michigan public service
commission" is hereby created, which shall consist The Michigan public service
commission is created in the department of licensing and regulatory affairs.
(2) The commission consists of 3 6 members, not more than 2 3 of whom shall be are
members of the same political party, appointed by the governor with the advice and consent
of the senate. At least 1 member of the commission must be a resident of the Upper
Peninsula.
(3) Each member shall of the commission must be a citizen of the United States , and of
the this state. of Michigan, and no member of said A member of the commission shall not
be pecuniarily interested in any public utility or public service person subject to the
jurisdiction and control of the commission. During his a member's term no a member shall
not serve as an officer or committee member of any political party organization, or hold any
office, or be employed by any other commission, board, department, or institution in this
state. No commission
(4) A member of the commission shall not be retained or employed by any public utility
or public service person subject to the jurisdiction and control of the commission during the
time he while the member is acting as such commissioner, and a member of the
commission or for 6 months thereafter, and no after that time.
(5) A member of the commission , who is a member of the bar of the state State Bar of
Michigan , shall not practice his profession law or act as counselor or attorney in any court of
this state during the time he is while a member of said the commission. : Provided, however,
This shall
(6) This section does not require any commissioner member of the commission to retire
from , or dissolve any partnership , of which he the individual is a member, but said the
partnership , while he is a member of the commission, shall not engage in public utility
practice while the individual is a member of the commission. Immediately upon the taking
effect of this act, the offices of the present members of the Michigan public service
commission are hereby abolished, and the members of the Michigan public service
commission as herein created shall be appointed by the governor with the advice and consent
of the senate, for terms of 6 years each: Provided, That of the members first appointed, 1 shall
be appointed for a term of 2 years, 1 for a term of 4 years, and 1 for a term of 6 years. Upon
the expiration of said terms successors shall be appointed with like qualifications and in like
manner for terms of 6 years each, and until their successors are appointed and qualified.
Vacancies shall be filled in the same manner as is provided for appointment in the first
instance.
(7) Members of the commission shall serve for terms of 6 years or until a successor
is appointed, whichever is later. If a vacancy occurs on the commission, the governor
shall make an appointment for the unexpired term in the same manner as the original
appointment.".
Representative Prestin moved to adopt the amendment to SB 502. The motion did not prevail
7-10-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Nays: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Pass: None.
Representative MacDonell moved to report out SB 502 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-7-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: None.
Representative Hill moved to report out SB 519 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
10-7-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Scott, Andrews, Coleman, Whitsett, Neeley, Byrnes, Churches, Hill,
MacDonell, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Wendzel, Outman, Aragona, BeGole, Greene, Prestin, Schmaltz.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Scott adjourned the meeting at
10:24 AM.
Representative Helena Scott, Chair
Molly Wingrove
Committee Clerk
mwingrove@house.mi.gov


location: Room 307, House Office Building

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
REP. TULLIO LIBERATI
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, November 1, 2023
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Committee on Government Operations was called to order by Chair Liberati.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall, Posthumus, Greene.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative McFall moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 18, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5272, HB 5273, HB 5274 and HB 5275 before the committee:
HB 5272
(Rep. Witwer)
A bill to require certain public officers to file
annual financial disclosure reports; to create a
financial disclosure form; to prescribe penalties
and civil sanctions; and to provide for the powers
and duties of certain state and local governmental
officers and entities.
HB 5273
(Rep. Tyrone Carter)
A bill to require certain candidates for state
elective office to file financial disclosure reports;
to create a financial disclosure form; to prescribe
penalties and civil sanctions; and to provide for
the powers and duties of certain state and local
governmental officers and entities.
HB 5274
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 388, entitled "Michigan
campaign finance act," by amending section 44
(MCL 169.244), as amended by 2017 PA 119.
HB 5275
(Rep. Glanville)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 388, entitled "Michigan
campaign finance act," (MCL 169.201 to 169.282)
by adding section 44a.
Representative Tyrone Carter testified in support of HBs 5272-5275. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 5272, HB 5273, HB 5274 and HB
5275, but did not wish to speak:
Erin Schor, representing the Michigan Department of State.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5272, HB 5273, HB 5274 and HB
5275, but did not wish to speak:
Quentin Turner, representing Common Cause Michigan.
Camden Weber, representing NextGen America.
Representative Pohutsky moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5272. The motion prevailed
3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Representative Pohutsky moved to report out HB 5272 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Representative McFall moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5273. The motion prevailed 3-
0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 5273 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Representative Pohutsky moved to report out HB 5274 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 5275 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
The Chair laid SB 382 and SB 383 before the committee:
SB 382
(Sen. Chang)
A bill to facilitate access to state services by
individuals with limited English proficiency; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to provide
for biennial reports concerning equal language
access.
SB 383
(Sen. Cavanagh)
A bill to provide for the statewide coordination of
equal language access to state services by
individuals with limited English proficiency; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; and to establish
a process for submitting complaints and obtaining
remedies for lack of equal language access and for
denials of equal access based on one's national
origin.
The following person submitted a card in support of SB 382 and SB 383, but did not wish to
speak:
Christine Suave, representing the Michigan Immigrant Rights Center.
Representative Pohutsky moved to report out SB 382 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Pass: None.
Representative McFall moved to report out SB 383 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 3-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Liberati, Pohutsky, McFall.
Nays: Reps. Posthumus, Greene.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Liberati adjourned the meeting
at 12:21 PM.
Representative Tullio Liberati, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov