HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. SARAH LIGHTNER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, September 24,
2025
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office
Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Lightner.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Hope and
Breen.
Absent: Reps. Tyrone Carter and Scott.
Excused: Reps. Tyrone Carter and Scott.
Representative Johnsen moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 10, 2025. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
Representative Harris moved to excuse Representatives Tyrone Carter and Scott from the meeting.
There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4481, HB 4482 and HB 4483 before the committee:
HB 4481
(Rep. DeBoyer)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An act
to regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms,
gas ejecting devices, and electro-muscular
disruption devices; to prohibit the buying,
selling, or carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular
disruption devices without a license or other
authorization; to provide for the forfeiture of
firearms and electro-muscular disruption
devices under certain circumstances; to
provide for penalties and remedies; to provide
immunity from civil liability under certain
circumstances; to prescribe the powers and
duties of certain state and local agencies; to
prohibit certain conduct against individuals
who apply for or receive a license to carry a
concealed pistol; to make appropriations; to
prescribe certain conditions for the
appropriations; and to repeal all acts and parts
of acts inconsistent with this act," (MCL
28.421 to 28.435) by adding section 5p.
HB 4482
(Rep. Hoadley)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An act
to regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms,
gas ejecting devices, and electro-muscular
disruption devices; to prohibit the buying,
selling, or carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular
disruption devices without a license or other
authorization; to provide for the forfeiture of
firearms and electro-muscular disruption
devices under certain circumstances; to
provide for penalties and remedies; to provide
immunity from civil liability under certain
circumstances; to prescribe the powers and
duties of certain state and local agencies; to
prohibit certain conduct against individuals
who apply for or receive a license to carry a
concealed pistol; to make appropriations; to
prescribe certain conditions for the
appropriations; and to repeal all acts and parts
of acts inconsistent with this act," (MCL
28.421 to 28.435) by adding section 5q.
HB 4483
(Rep. Aragona)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled "An act
to regulate and license the selling, purchasing,
possessing, and carrying of certain firearms,
gas ejecting devices, and electro-muscular
disruption devices; to prohibit the buying,
selling, or carrying of certain firearms, gas
ejecting devices, and electro-muscular
disruption devices without a license or other
authorization; to provide for the forfeiture of
firearms and electro-muscular disruption
devices under certain circumstances; to
provide for penalties and remedies; to provide
immunity from civil liability under certain
circumstances; to prescribe the powers and
duties of certain state and local agencies; to
prohibit certain conduct against individuals
who apply for or receive a license to carry a
concealed pistol; to make appropriations; to
prescribe certain conditions for the
appropriations; and to repeal all acts and parts
of acts inconsistent with this act," by amending
section 5c (MCL 28.425c), as amended by
2015 PA 3.
Representative Aragona, Representative Hoadley, and Representative DeBoyer testified in
support of HB 4481, HB 4482 and HB 4483. Questions and discussions followed.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4481, HB 4482 and HB 4483, but did
not wish to speak:
Brian Darlas, representing the Paladin Academy.
The Chair laid HB 4840 before the committee:
HB 4840
(Rep. Lightner)
A bill to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled
"Revised judicature act of 1961," by amending
section 8031 (MCL 600.8031), as amended by
2017 PA 101.
Chair Lightner testified in support of HB 4840. Questions and discussions followed.
Retired Circuit Court Judge James Alexander, representing himself, testified in support of HB
4840. Questions and discussions followed.
Judge Christopher Yates, representing the Michigan Judges Association, testified in support of HB
4840. Questions and discussions followed.
Doug Toering, representing himself, testified in support of HB 4840. Questions and discussions
followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4840, but did not wish to speak:
Trevor VanDyke, representing the State Court Administrative Office.
The Chair laid HB 4690 and HB 4691 before the committee:
HB 4690
(Rep. Linting)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," by amending section
479a (MCL 750.479a), as amended by 2012
PA 60.
HB 4691
(Rep. Mueller)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled
"Michigan vehicle code," by amending section
602a (MCL 257.602a), as amended by 1999
PA 73.
Representative Lightner moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4690. The motion prevailed 9-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Hope and
Breen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative BeGole moved to report out HB 4690 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 7-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen and Schuette.
Nays: Reps. Hope and Breen.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4691. The motion prevailed 7-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen and Schuette.
Nays: Reps. Hope and Breen.
Pass: None.
Representative DeBoyer moved to report out HB 4691 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 9-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Hope and
Breen.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Lightner adjourned the meeting at
11:07 AM.
Representative Sarah Lightner, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov