MEMBERS:
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. TOM BARRETT
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY AND PUBLIC
SAFETY
SENATOR PETER J. LUCIDO
CHAIR
3100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
June 24, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety was scheduled for Wednesday, June 24,
2020, at 3:00 p.m., in room 403, Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4980 (S-5) (Rep. Leutheuser) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2. Reported HB 4981 (Rep. Wendzel) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3. Reported HB 4982 (S-2) (Rep. Meerman) with recommendation and immediate effect.
4. Reported HB 4983 (Rep. Rabhi) with recommendation and immediate effect.
5. Reported HB 4984 (Rep. LaGrand) with recommendation and immediate effect.
6. Reported HB 4985 (S-2) (Rep. Gay-Dagnogo) with recommendation and immediate effect.
7. Reported HB 5120 (Rep. Robinson) with recommendation and immediate effect.
8. Reported HB 5336 (S-1) (Rep. Iden) with recommendation and immediate effect.
9. Reported HB 5940 (Rep. Iden) with recommendation and immediate effect.
10. Reported HB 5941 (Rep. Iden) with recommendation and immediate effect.
11. Testimony regarding SB 681 (Sen. Irwin).
12. Testimony regarding SB 682 (Sen. Lucido).
13. Testimony regarding SB 20 (Sen. Zorn).
14. Testimony regarding SB 21 (Sen. Zorn).
15. Reported SJR K (Sen. Alexander).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:36 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and
Irwin, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to adopt the meeting minutes from June 18, 2020. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized the day's agenda.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4980:
Judge Tom Boyd, State Court Administrative Office – Support
Meghan Keit, Michigan Association of Counties – Oppose
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony via Zoom regarding HB 4980:
Lisa Brown, Oakland County Clerk - Support
The Chair invited Lt. Governor Garlin Gilchrist to present testimony in support of HB's 4980-4985 and HB
5120.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB's 4980-4985 and 5120:
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Oppose HB 4980
Barb Farrah, Wayne County Executive warren Evans – Neutral HB 4980
John LaMacchia, Urban Core Mayors – Support – HB's 4980-4985
Barb Farrah, Wayne County Executive Warren Evans – Support
Bill Wortz, Alliance for Safety and Justice – Support
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufactures Association – Support
Brian Woodman, Citizen – Support
Rosemary Castro, Pro-Tax & Notary - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt amendment #1 the (S-4) version of HB 4980. The vote
was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Chang and Irwin
Nays: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair moved to adopt amendment #2 the (S-4) version of HB 4980. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the (S-4) version of HB 4980. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall and Barrett
Nays: Sen. Irwin
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson, Runestad and Chang
The motion failed and the (S-4) was not adopted.
The chair moved to reconsider the vote for adopting the (S-4) version of HB 4980. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the vote will be reconsidered.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the (S-4) version of HB 4980. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad
Nays: Sen. Irwin
Pass: Sen. Chang
The motion prevailed and the (S-4) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report the (S-4) version of HB 4980, as amended, as a
clean substitute, to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson and Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4980. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report HB 4981 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4981. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the (S-2) version of HB 4982. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report HB 4982 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4982. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 4983 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnston, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4983. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report HB 4984 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Johnson and Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4984. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to adopt the (S-2) version of HB 4985. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, and Irwin
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Chang
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 4985 (S-2 )to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 4985. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report HB 5120 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 5120. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair brought up the (S-1) version of HB 5336 which was adopted during the June 18, 2020 committee
hearing and invited Rep. Iden to summarize HB 5336 (S-1).
The Chair invited Rep. Iden to summarize HB 5490 and HB 5491.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report HB 5336 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation
that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 5336. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 5490 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 5490. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 5491 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for HB 5491. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair invited Sen. Irwin to summarize SB's 681 and 682.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 681 and 682:
David Joseph, 16th Circuit Court – Support
Nicole Faulds, 16th Judicial Circuit Court – Support
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony via Zoom regarding SB's 681 and 682:
Jason Smith, Michigan Center for Youth Justice – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB's 681 and 682:
Kimberly Buddin, ACLU Michigan – Support
Algeria Wilson, National Association of Social Workers - Support
Michigan Association for Family Court Administrators – Support
The Juvenile Law Center – Support
R Street Institute – Support
Alex Rossman, Michigan League for Public Policy- Support
The Chair invited Shane Preston, of Sen. Zorn's office, to summarize SB's 20 and 21 via Zoom.
The card was read of the individual not wishing to present testimony regarding SB's 20 and 21:
Kimberly Buddin, ACLU Michigan - Oppose
The Chair invited Lamar Lemmons, of Sen. Alexander's office to summarize SJR K.
The card was read of the individual not wishing to present testimony regarding SJR K:
Kimberly Buddin, ACLU Michigan – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SJR K to the floor with recommendation that it be
adopted. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the resolution was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 6:01 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 07/23/2020