MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
September 28, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
September 28, 2023, at 12:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4516 (Rep. Coffia) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4420 (Rep. Rogers) with recommendation.
3.
Reported HB 4421 (Rep. Young) with recommendation.
4.
Reported HB 4422 (Rep. Filler) with recommendation.
5.
Reported HB 4423 (Rep. VanWoerkom) with recommendation.
6.
Reported SB 418 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
7.
Reported SB 419 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
8.
Reported SB 420 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
9.
Reported SB 421 (S-1) (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation.
10.
Reported SB 422 (S-1) (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation.
11.
Reported SB 423 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation.
12.
Reported SB 424 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
13.
Reported SB 425 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
14.
Reported SB 426 (Sen. Wojno) with recommendation.
15.
Reported SB 427 (S-1) (Sen. McMorrow) with recommendation.
16.
Reported SB 428 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
17.
Reported SB 429 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
18.
Reported SB 430 (S-1) (Sen. Geiss) with recommendation.
19.
Reported SB 431 (S-1) (Sen. Moss) with recommendation.
20.
Reported SB 432 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation.
21.
Reported SB 433 (Sen. Johnson) with recommendation.
22.
Reported SB 434 (Sen. McCann) with recommendation.
23.
Reported SB 435 (Sen. Polehanki) with recommendation.
24.
Reported SB 436 (Sen. Damosse) with recommendation.
25.
Reported SB 437 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
26.
Reported SB 471 (S-2) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
27.
Reported SB 472 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
28.
Reported SB 528 (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
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The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:08 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from September 21, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4516.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4516:
Mike McCoy, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians - Support
Jess Averill, MI Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support
David M. Arroyo, Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians – Support
Chardae Burton, MI Department of Health and Human Services – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4516 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB’s 4420-4423.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4420-4423:
Nathan Triplett, State Bar of Michigan – Support HB 4421 and HB 4423
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4420 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4421 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4422 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: None
Pass: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4423 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB’s 418-437.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 418-437:
Tom Hickson, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support SB418, 424-437
Samantha Gibson, Michigan Association of Counties – Support
Lois Pullano, Citizens for Prison Reform – Support
Trevor VanDyke, Supreme Court Administrative Office – Support
Nathan Triplett, State Bar of Michigan – Support SB’s 418-425, 428-431
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights Michigan – Support SB’s 418,419, 421, 422, 423, 427-437
Chardae Burton, MI Department of Health and Human Services – Support SB’s 418-424, 426-427
Thom Lattig, MI Association for Family Court Administration – Support
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Support SB’s418, 420-427
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Oppose SB 419
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 418. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
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The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Johnson moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 418 (S-1) passed. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the vote was reconsidered.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 419. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 419 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 420. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 420 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 421. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 421 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 418. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 422. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 422 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 423. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 423 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 424. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 424 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 425. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
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Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 425 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 426 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 427. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 427 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 428. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 428 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 429. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 429 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 430. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 430 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 431. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 431 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 425. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 425 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to the (S-1) version of SB 432.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-1) version of SB 432. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 432. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 432 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 433 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 434 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 435 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 436 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 437 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair brought up SB’s 471-472, and SB 528.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB’s 471-472, and SB 528:
Tom Lambert, Michigan Open Carry – Oppose
Brenden Boudreau, Great Lakes Gun Rights – Oppose
Heath Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic & Sexual Violence - Support
Celeste Kanpurawalg, Moms Demand Action – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 471-472, and SB 528:
Linda Danders, Moms Demand Action - Support
Jess Averill, MI Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support
Trooper Kristina Droste, Michigan State Police – Support
Matt Black, Michigan Academy of Family Physicians – Support
Scott Jones, National Rifle Association – Oppose
The following cards were submitted during the September 14, 2023 committee hearing. Due to time constrains
the cards were unable to be read in at that time. These cards were recorded in the meeting minutes from that
hearing.
Steve Prange, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support
Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Kelly Dillaha, Red Wine and Blue – Support
Rani Asava, Students Demand Action – Support
Saylor Reinders, Students Demand Action – Support
Aaron Rusch, YWCA Kalamazoo – Support SB 471
Celeste Kampurwala, Moms Demand Action – Support
Pastor Aqeel T. Ash-Shakoor, Voices of Color – Support
Megan Reynolds, MI Poverty Law Program – Support
Lauren Jasinski, MI Education Association – Support
Bessie Roper, Moms Demand Action – Support
Ryan Bates, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Sheriff Mike Bouchard, Oakland County – Neutral
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Lizbeth Estes, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support
Janet Prange, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support
Brady Sckickinger, MI Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners – Oppose
Catherine Marshall, Self – Support
Teanesha Ash-Shakoor, Voices of Color
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 471.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 471. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 471. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 471 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 472 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 528 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: None
Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:23 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 10/05/2023
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