HOUSE STANDING COMMITTEE ON MILITARY,
VETERANS, AND HOMELAND SECURITY
Tuesday, June 18
th , 2019 12:00 p.m. Room 307 House Office Building
Representative LaFave, Chair, called the meeting to order.
The Chair laid the committee at ease, the time being 12:01 p.m.
The Chair called the committee to order, the time being 12:05 p.m.
Chair LaFave requested attendance be called to establish a quorum of the appointed committee
members:
Present: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, Chirkun, T. Carter,
and Manoogian.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Manoogian moved to approve the minutes of the June 11th, 2019 meeting. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid the committee at ease, the time being 12:07 p.m.
The Chair called the committee to order, the time being 12:10 p.m.
The Chair laid HB 4200 and HB 4201 before the committee:
HB 4200 (Rep. Eisen)
Weapons; concealed; penalties for open-carry of a concealed pistol
in prohibited areas; modify.
HB 4201 (Rep. Eisen)
Weapons; concealed; sentencing guidelines; update.
Representative Jones offered the following amendment for HB 4200:
1.
Amend page 5, line 11, after "infraction" by inserting "or guilty of a crime as
follows:
(a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (c), the individual is responsible for a state
civil infraction and may be fined not more than $500.00. The court shall order the individual's
license to carry a concealed pistol suspended for 6 months.$250.00.
(b) For a second violation, the individual is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by
IMPRISONMENT FOR NOT MORE THAN 90 DAYS OR a fine of not more than
$1,000.00, OR BOTH. The court shall MAY order the individual's license to carry a concealed
pistol revoked.SUSPENDED FOR UP TO 1 YEAR.
(c) For a third or subsequent violation, the individual is guilty of a felony punishable by
imprisonment for not more than 4 2 years or a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both. The
court shall order the individual's license to carry a concealed pistol revoked.".
Representative Jones explained the amendment.
Representative Jones moved to adopt the amendment for HB 4200. The motion prevailed by a
vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
Representative Chirkun offered the following amendment to HB 4200:
1.
Amend page 5, line 11, after "infraction" by inserting "or guilty of a crime as
follows:
(a) Except as provided in subdivisions SUBDIVISION (b), and (c), the individual is
responsible for a state civil infraction and may be fined not more than $500.00. The court shall
order the individual's license to carry a concealed pistol suspended for 6 months.$250.00.
(b) For a second violation, the individual is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by
IMPRISONMENT FOR NOT MORE THAN 90 DAYS OR a fine of not more than
$1,000.00, OR BOTH. The court shall MAY order the individual's license to carry a concealed
pistol revoked.SUSPENDED FOR UP TO 1 YEAR.".
Representative Chirkun explained the amendment.
Representative Chirkun moved to adopt the amendment for HB 4200. The motion prevailed by a
vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
Representative Marino offered the following amendment for HB 4200:
1.
Amend page 5, line 14, after "than" by striking out "$100.00" and inserting
"$250.00".
Representative Marino explained the amendment.
Representative Marino moved to adopt the amendment for HB 4200. The motion prevailed by a
vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
Representative Mueller offered the following amendment for HB 4200:
1.
Amend page 5, line 11, after "infraction" by inserting "or guilty of a crime as
follows:
(a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (c), the individual is responsible for a state
civil infraction and may be fined not more than $500.00. The court shall order the individual's
license to carry a concealed pistol suspended for 6 months.$250.00.
(b) For a second violation DURING A 5-YEAR PERIOD, the individual is guilty of a
misdemeanor punishable by IMPRISONMENT FOR NOT MORE THAN 90 DAYS OR a
fine of not more than $1,000.00, OR BOTH. The court shall MAY order the individual's license
to carry a concealed pistol revoked.SUSPENDED FOR UP TO 1 YEAR.
(c) For a third or subsequent violation DURING A 5-YEAR PERIOD, the individual is
guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 4 2 years or a fine of not more
than $5,000.00, or both. The court shall order the individual's license to carry a concealed pistol
revoked.".
Representative Mueller explained the amendment.
Representative Mueller moved to adopt the amendment for HB 4200. The motion prevailed by a
vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
Representative Markkanen moved to refer HB 4200, to the Committee on Judiciary, with
recommendation, as amended, as substitute (H-2). The motion prevailed by a vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid the committee at ease, the time being 12:15 p.m.
The Chair called the committee to order, the time being 12:16 p.m.
Representative Marino moved to adopt substitute (H-1) for HB 4201. The motion prevailed by a
vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
Representative Marino moved to refer HB 4201 to the Committee on Judiciary, with
recommendation, as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed by a vote of 7-2-0.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL:
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, and Chirkun.
Nays: Reps. T. Carter and Manoogian.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid the committee at ease, the time being 12:18 p.m.
Majority Vice Chair Mueller called the committee to order, the time being 12:19 p.m.
The Vice Chair laid a presentation from SanteCare before the committee.
Roger Saadeh and Gerald Alcorn, representing SanteCare gave a presentation. Questions and
discussion followed.
There being no further business to come before the committee, the Chair adjourned the meeting,
the time being 12:50 p.m.
Representative LaFave, Chair
Matthew Carnagie
Committee Clerk
June 18th, 2019
Date Approved and Signed