MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Tuesday, March 14, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in the
1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4004 (Rep. Weiss) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4007 (Rep. Carter) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 34 (S-1) (Sen. Camilleri) with recommendation.
4. Reported SB 6 (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation.
5. Testimony regarding HB 4005 (Rep. Weiss) and SB 5 (Sen. Camilleri).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB 4005, HB 4007, SB
34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Sen. Darrin Camilleri – Support
Sen. Veronica Klinefelt – Support
Michael Pierce, University of Arkansas – No position
Ron Bieber, Michigan AFL-CIO – No position
Kathy Stevens, UFCW 951 – Support
Yousef Rabhi, Tracy Webb, and Joshua Bowman, Michigan Nurses Association – Support
Lawrence Roehrig, AFSCME Council 25 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004 and HB 4005:
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Jennifer Sherer, Economic Policy Institute – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4005 and SB 34:
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
Kevin Tremain, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
Mike Klele, IBEW 692 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB 4005, SB 5, and SB
34:
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Opposition
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4007 and SB 6:
Neil Parish and John Banks, Michigan NECA – Support
Jason Gunenwald, Sheet Metal Workers Local 80 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4007:
Tom Lutz, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 34:
Jessica Smith, UFCW 876 – No position
Andrew Goodman, UA Local 370 – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB 4005, HB 4007, and
SB 34:
Percy Johnson, UAW APRI – Opposition
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB
4005, HB 4007, SB 5, and SB 6:
Zachary Aaron Northrup, USW Local 2-585 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 5, SB 6, and
SB 34:
Katherine Bussard, Mid-Michigan Women for Conservative Values – Opposition
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 5 and SB 34:
Robert Rosekrans, USW Local 15157 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB
4005, HB 4007, SB 5, SB 6, and SB 34:
Reid Scott, Support RTW – Support
Angelo Moreno, ELPL Library Workers Union – Support
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Amanda Fisher, NFIB – Opposition
Annie Patnaude, American for Prosperity – Opposition
Chris White, Restaurant Opportunities Center of Michigan – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004 and HB
4005:
JJ Jewell, UAW Region 1 Local 228 – Support
John Kalb, National Right to Work Committee – Opposition
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding HB 4004, HB
4005, HB 4007, SB 5, and SB 6:
Zachary Aaron Northrup, USW Local 2-585 – Support
Jason Peek, UAW 602 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 34:
Joshua Richter, UFCW 951 – Support
Due to time constraints, the following individuals were unable to present testimony regarding SB 5:
Rudolfo Reyes, 602 UAW – Support
At 9:58 a.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 10:07 a.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report HB 4004 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report HB 4007 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #5, to SB 34.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #5 to SB 34. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #4, to SB 34.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #4 to SB 34. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #6, to SB 34.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #6 to SB 34. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 34. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report the (S-1) version of SB 34 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #1, to SB 6.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #1 to SB 6. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report SB 6 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #2, to SB 5.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #2 to SB 5. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #3, to SB 5.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #3 to SB 5. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4007
and SB 6:
Michael LaFaive, Mackinac Center for Public Policy – Opposition
Wendy Block, Michigan Chamber of Commerce – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, and SB 34:
Ben Tirrell, Michigan Farm Bureau – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004:
Rachael Dickinson, UAW Local 6000 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4007, and SB 5:
David Bianco, IBEW Local 252 – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004
and HB 4005:
John Clore, Us Against Media – Opposition
John McNamara, Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association – Opposition
Kevin Koehler, Construction Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4007, SB 34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Nizigama Judita, UFCW 951 – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4005
and SB 34:
Chad Lynch, Operating Engineers 324 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 34, and SB 5:
Antwana Kus, Resident – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 6 and SB 5:
Dan Ferqueior, MRCC – Support
Cindy Ferguson, UFCW 951 – Support
Pablo Perez, USW Local 2-585 – Support
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Kathy Clay, USW Local 2-585 – Support
Dan Spencer, USW – Support
Nick Richmond, USW Local 2-585 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 34, and SB 6:
Rebecca Sallie, USW Local 496 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 34 and
SB 5:
John McNamara, Michigan Restaurant and Lodging Association – Opposition
Jennifer DeLorge, United Steel Workers – Support
Chad Milkowki, USW 15157 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 34:
Randy Minnie, 1073 – Support
Mike Orvorlt, USW Local 12934 – Support
Kent Holsing, United Steelworkers Local 12075 – Support
Amy Meyers, USW Local 12934 – Support
Steven Strachn, UFCW 871 – Support
Alexis Betz, UFCW – Opposition
Antoine Bell, LiUNA – Support
Mark Pulice, Laborers Union – Support
Mike Lumley, Teamsters Local 406 – Support
Jesus Perez, Teamsters 406 – Support
Christopher Ritter, IATSE Local 38 – Support
Edwin Miller, IATSE Local 38 – Support
John Mendyk, USW – Support
Patricia Martin, UFCW 951 – Support
Sydney Krueger, UFCW 870 – Support
Kurt Herman, UAW – Support
Marites Herman, UAW – Support
Walter Betz, UFCW 951 – Support
Scot Carpenter, UFCW 951 – Support
Cheryl Back, UFCW Local 951 – Support
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The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, SB 34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Adrian Lianes, UFCW 951 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, SB 34, and SB 5:
Dave Worthams, Michigan Manufacturers Association – Opposition
Amy Drumm, Michigan Retailers Association – Opposition
Peter Ruark, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support
Jim Lilly, Spartan Nash – Opposition
Ben Tirrell, Michigan Farm Bureau – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 34, SB 6
and SB 5:
Ken Bickle, Utility Workers Union of America – Support
Nick Gordies, UWUA Local 150 – Support
Steve Claywell, Michigan Building Trades – Support
Jirmere Moses, Laborers Local 1191 – Support
Elizabeth Byrd, SEIU Michigan – Support
Kevin Koehler, Construction Association of Michigan – Support
Robert Joeng, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
Mike Hayter, LiUNIA – Support
Dan Minton, LiUNA – Support
David Willest, LiUNA of Michigan – Support
Jesse DuVerney, LiUNA Local 355 – Support
Jon Byrd, Michigan Laborers District Council – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, and HB 4007:
Linda Gordon, UFCW – Support
Anthony Robbins, IAMAW – No Position
Diane Payne, IAMAW Local 698 – Support
Andy Johnston, Grand Rapids Chamber – Opposition
Sandy Baruah, Detroit Regional Chamber – Opposition
Scott Huff, Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters – Support
Patrice Olson, IAMAW 2184 – Support
Alexandria Olson, IAMAW 2184 – Support
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Frank Krause, IAMAW 698 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4004,
HB 4005, HB 4007, SB 34, SB 6 and SB 5:
Ralph Prince, CWA – Support
Mike Schucte, CWA – Support
Charles Daniels, CWA – Support
DeAndra Davis, CWA – Support
Kevin Riley, UFCW 951 – Support
Robert Lopez, UFCW 951 – Opposition
Miles Podert, 14009 – Support
Elizabeth Minor, Michigan AFL-CIO – Support
Jordan Pierce, UFCW 951 – Support
Lora Baker, UFCW 951 – Opposition
Damien Nem, Carpenters – No Position
Tim Minotas, Sierra Club – Support
John Fournier, City of Ann Arbor – Support
Stephanie Kreuz, Heritage Action – Opposition
Sarah Anderson, Michigan Freedom Fund – Opposition
Beth DeShone, Great Lakes Education Project – Opposition
Jimmy Greene, Associated Builders and Contractors of Michigan – Opposition
Jeremy Garza, Michigan Pipe Trades – Support
Steven Rieppa, AFSCME Council 25 – Support
Ryan Charney, Michigan State Conference IBEW – Support
Sandy Baruah, Detroit Regional Chamber – Opposition
Carlo Castigliual, Plumbers Local 98 – Support
Mathew Lee, UFCW 951 – Support
Robert Smith, UAW – Support
Ryan Anderson, USW 14009 – Support
Kris Pawlowski, USW Union – Support
Tim Hahn, USW – Support
Debra Romain, Michigan Regional Chamber of Carpenters and Millwrights – Support
Earnest Sallie, USW Local 496 – Support
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Vince Dawe, MRCC – Support
Andre Poirier, Local 80 Sheet Metal Workers – Support
Michael Pilon, Local 80 Sheet Metal Workers – Support
Dawn Crandall, Home Builders Association of Michigan – Opposition
Sean McBrearty, Clean Water Action – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 11:01 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 04/13/23
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