MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
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COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 31, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Tuesday,
October 19, 2023, at 2:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4823 (Rep. Wozniak) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4920 (Rep. Fitzgerald) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4476 (S-3) (Rep. Arbit) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4477 (Rep. Puri) with recommendation.
5. Testimony regarding HB 4320 (Rep. MacDonell).
6. Testimony regarding HB 4387 (Rep. MacDonell).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:04 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the meeting minutes from the October 19, 2023.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4823 (Rep. Wozniak) and HB 4920 (Rep. Fitzgerald), and invited Scott Ray, from
Rep. Wozniak’s office and Chris Herweyer, from Rep. Fitzgerald’s office to summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4823 and 4920:
The Honorable Sandra Harrison, Macomb County Probate Court – Support
The Honorable Jeffery O’Hara, Kent County – Support
Trevor VanDyke, MI Supreme Court Administrative Office – Support
Julie Bratten, Citizen, - Oppose HB 4823
Jody Whie, Citizen – Oppose HB 4823
Cynthia Mifsud, Citizen – Oppose
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4823 and 4920:
Samantha Gibson, Michigan Association of Counties – Support
Lori Luoma, Citizen – Oppose
The Honorable James Biernat, Macomb County Probate Court – Support
Brandee Ritsema, Citizen – Oppose HB 4920
Jack Michael, Citizen – Oppose HB 4823
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4823 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4920 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4476 (S-3) (Rep. Arbit), and HB 4477 (Rep. Puri).
Sen. Johnson offered amendment #1 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #1 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #2 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #2 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #3 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #3 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #4 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #4 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Johnson offered amendment #5 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt amendment #5 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #6 to HB 4476 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #6 to HB 4476 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4476 and 4477:
Mary Pollock, American Association of University Women of Michigan - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-3) version of HB 4476. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4476 (S-3) to the floor with recommendation that
it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4477 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB’s 4320 and 4387 and invited Matthew Dargay, of Rep. MacDonell’s office to
summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4320 and 4387:
Allie Hayes, Citizen – Support
Dawn Hayes, Citizen – Support
Kristine Shuler, Troy Police Department – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4320 and 4387:
Mary Pollock, Michigan State Employee Retirees Association – Support
Nicole Shannon, Michigan Elder Justice Initiative – Support HB 4320
Sherri Boyd, ARC Michigan – Support
Michelle Roberts Disability Rights of Michigan – Support
Heath Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support
Paul Stankewitz, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
Ashley Steffen, MI Department of Attorney General – Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:13 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 11/02/2023