MEMBERS:
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. TOM BARRETT
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
SEN. STEPHANIE CHANG, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY AND PUBLIC
SAFETY
SENATOR PETER J. LUCIDO
CHAIR
3100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 1, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday, October 1,
2020, at 8:30 a.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room, 3rd Floor, Capitol Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 1046 (S-3) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 1047 (S-3) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 1048 (S-2) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation.
4. Reported SB 1049 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation.
5. Reported SB 1050 (S-2) (Sen. MacDonald) with recommendation.
6. Reported SB 1051 (S-2) (Sen. McBroom) with recommendation.
7. Reported SB 1125 (Sen. Lucido) with recommendation.
8. Reported SB 700 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation and immediate effect.
9. Reported SB 893 (Sen. Santana) with recommendation and immediate effect.
10. Reported SB 894 (Sen. Santana) with recommendation and immediate effect.
11. Reported HB 4045 (S-1)(Rep. Hope) with recommendation.
12. Reported HB 4923 (S-1) (Rep. Lilly) with recommendation.
13. Reported HB 4924 (Rep. Anthony) with recommendation.
14. Reported SB 895 (S-3) (Sen. Runestad) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:36 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Lucido, Sen (s).VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and
Irwin, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the meeting minutes from September 29, 2020.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB's 1046 – 1051, and SB 1125.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 1046–1051, and SB 1125:
Dr. Sheryl Kubiak, Citizen – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony before the committee regarding SB's
1046–1051, and SB 1125. :
Elizabeth Kutter, Wayne State University – Support
Kimberly Buddin, ACLU Michigan - Support
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriff's Association – Support – SB 1049-1050
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriff's Association – Neutral – SB 1046 – 1048
Stephanie Johnson, Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police – Neutral SB 1046
Kathy Hagenian, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support SB 1049
Kathy Hagenian, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Oppose SB's 1046, 1047, 1050, 1051
Kathy Hagenian, MI Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – No Position SB 1048
The Chair offered (S-3) to SB 1046 and entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the (S-3) version of
SB 1046. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report SB 1046 (S-3) to the floor with recommendation
that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Barrett offered amendment #1 to SB 1047 (S-2) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 1047. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson and Runestad
Nays: Sen. (s) Chang and Irwin
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to adopt the (S-2) version SB 1047. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report the (S-2) version of SB 1047, as amended, as a clean
substitute, to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up the (S-2) version of SB 1048 that was adopted during the previous committee hearing.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report SB 1048 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to SB 1049 and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to SB 1049. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen. (s) Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: Sen. VanderWall
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
Sen. Runestad offered amendment #2 to SB 1049 and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #2 to SB 1049. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen. (s) Barrett, Johnson and Runestad
Nays: Chair Lucido, Sen. (s) VanderWall, Chang and Irwin
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to report SB 1049, as amended, as a clean substitute, to the
floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Chang and Irwin
Nays: Sen. Barrett
Pass: Sen. (s) Johnson and Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported
The Chair brought up the (S-2) version of SB 1050 that was adopted during the previous committee hearing.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report SB 1050 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation
that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up the (S-2) version of SB 1051 that was adopted during the previous committee hearing.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report SB 1051 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB 1125.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 1125:
Robert Noordhoek, Michigan Sheriffs' Coordinating and Training Council - Oppose
The Chair moved to report SB 1125 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB's 700, 893-894, and invited Sen. Santana to summarize the bills.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 700:
Kimberly Buddin, ACLU Michigan – Support
James R. Ryan, Michigan Probate Judges Association – Oppose
The Chair offered (S-1) to SB 700.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 700. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to report SB 700 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Chang and Irwin
Nays: Sen. Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 700 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report SB 893 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 893. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to report SB 894 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 894. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair brought up HB 4045 and invited Rep. Hope to summarize the bill.
Sen. Irwin offered amendment #1 to HB 4045 and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt amendment #1 to HB 4045. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen. (s) Chang and Irwin
Nays: Chair Lucido, Sen. (s) VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson and Runestad
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair offered (S-1) to HB 4045 and entertained a motion by Sen. VanderWall to adopt the (S-1) version of
HB 4045. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 4045 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB 4923, offered (S-1) to HB 4923, and invited Rep. Lilly to summarize the bill and
substitute.
The Chair brought up HB 4924 and invited Rep. Anthony to summarize the bill.
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony to the committee regarding HB's
4923-4924:
Karen Johnston, Toyota - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4923. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 4923 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Barrett to report HB 4924 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up SB 895, offered (S-3) to SB 895, and invited Sen. Runestad to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individual to present testimony via Zoom regarding SB 895:
Gaetan Gerville-Reache, Appellate Practice Section, State Bar of Michigan – Oppose
Del Chenault, Self, Clark Hill – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 895:
Chief Judge Murray, Court of Appeals – Neutral
Ben Bodkin, Michigan Poverty Law Program – Oppose
Peter Cunningham, State Bar of Michigan – Oppose
Anne Argiroff, Appellate Practice Section, State Bar of Michigan - Oppose
Sen. Chang offered amendment #1 to SB 895 (S-3) and summarized the amendment.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Chang to adopt amendment #1 to SB 895 (S-3). The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen. (s) Chang and Irwin
Nays: Chair Lucido, Sen. (s) VanderWall, Barrett and Runestad
Pass: Sen. Johnson
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt the (S-3) version of SB 895. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson, Runestad, Chang and Irwin
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-3) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to report SB 895 (S-3) to the floor with recommendation that
it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson and Runestad
Nays: Sen. Irwin
Pass: Sen. Chang
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 895 (S-1). Being Sen. Irwin objected to the motion,
the Chair called for a roll call vote.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 895 (S-1). The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Lucido, Sen (s). VanderWall, Barrett, Johnson and Runestad
Nays: Sen. (s) Chang and Irwin
The motion prevailed and immediate effect was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:45 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: 10/07/2020