HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. SARAH LIGHTNER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Lightner.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone
Carter, Hope, Breen and Scott.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative BeGole moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 19, 2025. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4033 and HB 4034 before the committee:
The substitute (H-1) to HB 4034 was previously adopted on March 19, 2025.
Representative Wozniak moved to report out HB 4033 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter,
Hope and Scott.
Nays: None.
Wednesday, April 16, 2025
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office
Building
HB 4033
(Rep. Wozniak)
An act to allow certain fiduciaries to convert
income trusts to unitrusts, convert express
unitrusts to income trusts, and change the
percentage or method used to calculate
unitrust amounts.
HB 4034
(Rep. Wozniak)
A bill to amend 1988 PA 418, entitled
"Uniform statutory rule against perpetuities,"
by amending sections 3 and 5 (MCL 554.73
and 554.75), section 5 as amended by 2011
PA 11.
Pass: None.
Representative BeGole moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4034. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter,
Hope, Breen and Scott.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wozniak moved to report out HB 4034 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter,
Hope, Breen and Scott.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4047 and HB 4048 before the committee:
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4047 and HB 4048, but did not wish to
speak:
Jess Averill, representing the Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and
Treatment Board.
Matt Saxton, representing the Michigan Sheriffs' Association.
Brandon Lanyon, representing the Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan.
Representative Lightner moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4047. The motion prevailed 7-0-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen and Schuette.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Hope, Breen and Scott.
Representative Lightner moved to report out HB 4047 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
HB 4047
(Rep. Bierlein)
A bill to impose civil liability and prescribe
criminal penalties for the nonconsensual
creation or dissemination of deep fake sexual
images; and to provide for remedies.
HB 4048
(Rep. Tsernoglou)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The
code of criminal procedure," by amending
section 17b of chapter XVII (MCL 777.17b),
as added by 2002 PA 28.
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter,
Hope, Breen and Scott.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative BeGole moved to report out HB 4048 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter,
Hope, Breen and Scott.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4255 and HB 4256 before the committee:
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4255 and HB 4256, but did not wish
to speak:
Chuck Warpehoski, representing the Michigan Collaborative to End Mass Incarceration.
Kay Perry, representing MI-CURE.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Lois Pullano, representing the Citizens for Prison Reform.
Jessica Zimbelman, representing the Criminal Defense Attorneys of Michigan.
Eden Kinlock, representing FAMM.
Kyle Zawacki, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
John Cooper, representing Safe and Just Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4255 and HB 4256, but did not wish to
speak:
Brandon Lanyon, representing the Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan.
Representative Lightner moved to report out HB 4255 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
HB 4255
(Rep. Lightner)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 7401,
7410, and 7417 (MCL 333.7401, 333.7410,
and 333.7417), section 7401 as amended by
2016 PA 548, section 7410 as amended by
2016 PA 128, and section 7417 as added by
2012 PA 183, and by adding sections 7410b
and 7417a.
HB 4256
(Rep. Bollin)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The
code of criminal procedure," by amending
section 13m of chapter XVII (MCL
777.13m), as amended by 2016 PA 549.
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette and Breen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Hope and Scott.
Representative BeGole moved to report out HB 4256 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette and Breen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Hope and Scott.
The Chair laid HB 4045 before the committee:
Nichole Keway Biber, representing Clean Water Action, testified in support of HB 4045.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4045, but did not wish to speak:
Kyle Zawacki, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Sonny Koch and Tim Golding, representing the Americans for Prosperity - Michigan.
Representative DeBoyer offered the following amendment to HB 4045:
1. Amend page 3, line 14, by striking out all of subdivisions (a) and (b) and relettering the
remaining subdivisions.
Representative Lightner moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4045. The motion prevailed 7-0-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen and Schuette.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Hope, Breen and Scott.
Representative Johnsen offered the following amendments to HB 4045:
1. Amend page 4, line 26, by striking out "(7)," and inserting "(6),".
2. Amend page 5, line 10, after "(5)" by striking out the balance of the line through "(7)," on line
11 and inserting "and (6),".
3. Amend page 5, line 24, by striking out all of subsection (7).
Representative Johnsen moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4045. The motion prevailed 7-0-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen and Schuette.
Nays: None.
HB 4045
(Rep. Hope)
A bill to enact the uniform public expression
protection act; and to provide protections and
remedies to persons sued for exercising rights
to expression and other constitutionally
protected rights.
Pass: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Hope, Breen and Scott.
Representative BeGole moved to report HB 4045, as amended, as substitute (H-1). The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, BeGole, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter,
Hope, Breen and Scott.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Chair Lightner laid before the committee a presentation from the Michigan Department of
Attorney General. Dana Nessel, Danielle Hagaman Clark, and Ashley Steffen gave a
presentation to the committee. Questions and discussion followed.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Lightner adjourned the meeting at
11:51 AM.
Representative Sarah Lightner, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov