HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES
REP. BRENDA CARTER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, June 20, 2023
5:15 PM
Room 521, House Office Building
The House Committee on Insurance and Financial Services was called to order by Chair
Brenda Carter.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Absent: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte.
Excused: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte.
Representative Young moved to adopt the meeting minutes from June 8, 2023. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4240 before the committee:
HB 4240
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to prohibit employers from making certain
recruiting or hiring decisions based on an
individual's credit history; to prohibit employers
from making certain inquiries; to prohibit certain
waivers; to prohibit retaliation; and to provide
remedies.
Representative McFall moved to refer HB 4240 to the Committee on Labor. The motion
prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4500 before the committee:
HB 4500
(Rep. Wozniak)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 1201b.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4500, but did not wish to speak:
Alex Houseman, representing the Big I Michigan.
Marcia Hune, representing the Life Insurance Association of Michigan.
Dyck Van Koevering, representing the Insurance Alliance of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4595 before the committee:
HB 4595
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by repealing section
1206c (MCL 500.1206c).
Representative Martus testified in support of HB 4595. Questions and discussion followed.
Joseph Sullivan, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services,
testified in support of HB 4595. Questions and discussion followed.
The Chair laid HB 4703 and HB 4704 before the committee:
HB 4703
(Rep. Aragona)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
1204c (MCL 500.1204c), as amended by 2017 PA
67.
HB 4704
(Rep. Aragona)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
2024a (MCL 500.2024a), as added by 1989 PA 68.
Representative Aragona testified in support of HB 4703. Questions and discussion followed.
Chuck May, representing the National Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors,
testified in support of HB 4703. Questions and discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4703, but did not wish to speak:
Ryan Burtka, representing the National Association of Benefits and Insurance
Professionals.
Representative Aragona testified in support of HB 4704.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4704, but did not wish to speak:
Dave Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Alex Houseman, representing the Big I Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4732 and HB 4733 before the committee:
HB 4732
(Rep. Harris)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3701 (MCL 500.3701), as amended by 2016 PA
276.
HB 4733
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section 608
(MCL 500.608), as added by 2016 PA 276.
At 5:50 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 5:51 PM, Majority Vice Chair McFall called the committee back to order.
Representative Brenda Carter testified in support of HB 4732 and HB 4733.
Representative Harris testified in support of HB 4732 and HB 4733.
Karla Bell, representing AFLAC, testified in support of HB 4732 and HB 4733.
At 5:56 PM, Majority Vice Chair McFall laid the committee at ease.
At 5:57 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4732 and HB 4733, but
did not wish to speak:
Joesph Sullivan, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial
Service.
The Chair laid HB 4707 before the committee:
HB 4707
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending sections
2212e and 3425 (MCL 500.2212e and 500.3425),
section 2212e as added by 2022 PA 60 and section
3425 as amended by 2016 PA 276.
Representative Brabec testified in support of HB 4707. Questions and discussion followed.
David Lloyd, Chief Policy Officer of the Kennedy Forum, testified in support of HB 4707.
Questions and discussion followed.
Rachel Murray, Founder of the Advocates for Mental Health of Michigan, testified in support
of HB 4707. Questions and discussion followed.
Janine Teagarden testified in support of HB 4707. Questions and discussion followed.
Gabe Basso, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, testified in opposition to HB
4707. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4707, but did not wish to speak:
Alan Bolter, representing the Community Mental Health Association of Michigan.
Kelly Doyle, representing the The HIV/AIDS Alliance of Michgian.
Jennifer Middlin.
Michelle Massey, representing the Advocates for Mental Health of Michigan Youth.
Antonio David Garcia, representing the Affirmations Community Center.
Shayna Lee.
Rosalie Austin, representing the Advocates for Mental Health of Michigan Youth.
Maria Pena.
Marianne Huff, representing the Mental Health Association in Michigan.
Erin Knott, representing Equality Michigan.
Evan Johnstone.
Jacob Smith.
Jesse Coy.
Ivan Bernhardt.
Judge Linda Davis, representing Families Against Narcotics.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4707, but did not wish to speak:
Chirstine Shearer, representing the Michigan Association of Health Plans.
Representative Young moved to report HB 4707 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
9-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant.
Nays: Reps. Bruck, Neyer.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Smit.
The Chair laid SB 326 before the committee:
SB 326
(Sen. Singh)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax act,"
by amending section 2 (MCL 205.92), as amended
by 2023 PA 21.
Representative Grant moved to report SB 326 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
14-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young, Fitzgerald,
Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4619, HB 4620, HB 4621, HB 4622 and HB 4623 before the committee:
HB 4619
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
2027 (MCL 500.2027), as amended by 1998 PA
26.
HB 4620
(Rep. Edwards)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406z.
HB 4621
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3403 (MCL 500.3403), as amended by 2016 PA
276.
HB 4622
(Rep. Miller)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406z.
HB 4623
(Rep. Koleszar)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
3501 (MCL 500.3501), as amended by 2016 PA
276, and by adding section 3406z.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4619, HB 4620, (H-1), HB 4621, (H-
1), HB 4622, (H-1), HB 4623 and (H-1), but did not wish to speak:
Erin Knott, representing Equality Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4619, HB 4620, (H-1), HB 4621,
(H-1), HB 4622, (H-1), HB 4623 and (H-1), but did not wish to speak:
Mike Van Beek, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4619, but did not wish to speak:
Dyck Van Koerering, representing the Insurance Alliance of Michigan.
Adrienne Zaya, representing the Young Womens Christian Association of Kalamazoo.
Eric Waskowicz representing the United States of Care testified in support of HB 4619, HB
4620, HB 4621, HB 4622 and HB 4623.
Representative Grant moved to report out HB 4619 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative Scott moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4620. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 4620 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 10-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative McFall moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4621. The motion prevailed
15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Rogers moved to report out HB 4621 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 10-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative Coleman moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4622. The motion prevailed
15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Young moved to report out HB 4622 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 10-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Representative Breen moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4623. The motion prevailed 15-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Scott moved to report out HB 4623 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 10-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
The Committee returned to consideration of HB 4707.
Representative Stone moved to reconsider the vote by which HB 4707 was reported with
recommendation. The motion prevailed 14-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: Rep. Aragona.
Pass: None.
Representative Young moved to report out HB 4707 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-2-3:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant.
Nays: Reps. Bruck, Neyer.
Pass: Reps. Harris, Aragona, Smit.
The Committee returned to consideration of SB 326.
Representative Stone moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 326 was reported with
recommendation. The motion prevailed 15-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Grant moved to report out SB 326 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 15-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brenda Carter, McFall, Coleman, Stone, Breen, Rogers, Scott, Young,
Fitzgerald, Grant, Harris, Aragona, Bruck, Neyer, Smit.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Markkanen, Bezotte.
Representative Harris moved to excuse Representatives Bezotte and Markkanen from the
meeting. There being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Brenda Carter adjourned the
meeting at 7:04 PM.
Representative Brenda Carter, Chair
Justin Easter
Committee Clerk
jeaster@house.mi.gov