MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLANKI8
SEN. RICK OUTMAN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. JONATHAN LINDSAY
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AND
EMERGENCY SERVICES
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
December 3, 2025
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Veterans and Emergency Services was scheduled for Wednesday,
December 3, 2025, at 9:00 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4189 (Rep. Woolford) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4301 (Rep. BeGole) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4302 (Rep. McFall) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Outman and Lindsey, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adopt the meeting minutes from June 11, 2025. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up HB 4189, and invited Rep. Woolford to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4189:
Melissa Hanks Ketchel - Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4189:
Courtney Payne - Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Outman to report HB 4189 to the floor with recommendation that the
bill pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Outman and Lindsey
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair brought up HB’s 4301 and 4302, and invited Rep. McFall to summarize the bills.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB’s 4301 and 4302:
Trent Atkins, Mutual Aid Box Alarm Systems – Support
Shadd Whitehead, Mutual Aid Box Alarm Systems – Support
The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4301 and 4302:
Erin Schor, Michigan Department of State – Neutral
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to report HB 4301 to the floor with recommendation that the bill
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Outman and Lindsey
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lindsey to report HB 4302 to the floor with recommendation that the
bill pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Outman and Lindsey
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to excuse absent members from the meeting. Without objection,
Sen. Polehanki was excused from the meeting.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:39 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: