MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 9, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
March 2, 2023, at 11:00 a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Reported SB 76 (S-2) (Sen. Hertel) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2.
Reported SB 77 (Sen. Moss) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3.
Reported SB 78 (Sen. Cavanagh) with recommendation and immediate effect.
4.
Reported SB 79 (S-2) (Sen. Bayer) with recommendation and immediate effect.
5.
Reported SB 80 (S-1) (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation and immediate effect.
6. Reported SB 81 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation and immediate effect.
7. Reported SB 82 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation and immediate effect.
8. Reported SB 83 (S-1) (Sen. McMorrow) with recommendation and immediate effect.
9. Reported SB 84 (Sen. Polehanki) with recommendation and immediate effect.
10. Reported SB 85 (Sen. Anthony) with recommendation and immediate effect.
11. Reported SB 86 (Sen. Singh) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 11:06 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from March 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB's 76-86.
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The Chair offered amendment #1 to SB 76.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt amendment #1 to SB 76. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the amendment was adopted.
The Chair offered an (S-1) version of SB 76.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 76, as amended. The vote was
as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Irwin offered an (S-2) version of SB 79.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 79. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
Sen. Santana offered an (S-1) version of SB 80.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 80. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Shink offered an (S-1) version of SB 81.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 81. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Wojno offered an (S-1) version of SB 82.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 82. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
Sen. Irwin offered an (S-1) version of SB 83.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 83. The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 76-86:
Kim Worthy, Wayne county Prosecutor – Support SB 79
Dr. April Zeoli, U of M Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention – No Position
Dr. Patrick Carter, U of M Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention – No Position
Olivia Troye, 97 Precent – Support
Dr. Mike Siegel, Self – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 76-86 continued:
Dr. Michael Rice, State Superintendent – Support
Dr. Pamela Pugh, State School Board President - Support
Amy Trotter, MUCC – Support SB's 81-82, Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Bob Matthews, Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation – Oppose SB 76
Christopher Lee, National Shooting Sports Foundation Inc. Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Tom Lambert, Michigan Open Carry – Oppose
Kristina Lyke, Attorney – Oppose
Sheriff Christopher Swanson, Genesee County – Support
Jonathon Gold, Gifford's Gun Owners for Safety – Support
Bishop Bonnie Perry, End Gun Violence MI, MI Episcopal Church – Support
Rev. Richard White, Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity – Support
Paul Stankewitz, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support
Lawrence Katz, Self – Support
Marcy Jankovich, DC Project – Oppose
Joyce Berning, The DC Project - Oppose
Cheryl Videto, Self – Oppose
The Honorable Tracey Yokich, Macomb Co. Circuit Court, Self – Support
Brian Stork, Michigan State Medical Society – Support
Dr. Brittany Tayler, MI Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics – Support
Matt Oppenheim, Waverly Teachers – Support
Cara Erskine, Self – Support
Katie Cavanaugh, Okemos Public Schools Board of Education – Support
Dr. MD Alam, Bangladeshi American Community - Support
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 76 (S-1), as amended, as a clean substitute, to the floor
with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 76 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno report SB 77 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 77. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin report SB 78 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 78. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana report SB 79 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 79 (S-2). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 80 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 80 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 81 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
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Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 81 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno report SB 82 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 82 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 83 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 83 (S-1). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin report SB 84 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 84. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana report SB 85 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 85. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink report SB 86 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The
vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana
Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 86. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record:
James Gallant, Marquette County Suicide Prevention Coalition – Neutral
Dr. Alisha Ching, Self – Support
Rob Anderson, Farm Bureau – Support SB's 81-82
Tammy Warren, Self – No Position
Valerie Lehmann, Self – Support
Jeanne Hunton, Moms Demand Action – Support
Many Mynhier, Red Wine & Blue – Support
Pamela Leidlein, Moms Demand Action – Support
Rob Mass, MI Dept. of Treasury – Support SB's 81-82
Laurie Lisi, OPHW Dem Club – Support
Holly Nickerson, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Julie Moore, Self – Support
Lyra Moore, Self – Support
Rachel Lewis, Self – Support
James Mitchiner, MD Michigan State Medical Society – support
Tom Oswald, Lansing Area Peace Education Center – Support
Timothy Spannaues, Episcopal Diocese of Michigan – Support
M. Susan Harlow, End Gun Violence Michigan - Support
V. Schroeder, End Gun Violence Michigan – Support
Linda Danders, Moms Demand Acton – Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
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Anne Kuhnen, Michigan League for Public Policy – Kids Count – Support
Dwayne Gill, Alliance for Gun Responsibility – Support
Matt Saxton, MI Sheriffs' Association – Oppose SB 79
Celeste Kanpunwala, Mom's Demand Action – Support
Sonya Lewis, Physicians for the Prevention of Gun Violence – Support
Rob Anderson, Farm Bureau – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Jacob Maerli, National Association for Gun Rights – Oppose
Brenden Boudreau, Great Lakes Gun Rights – Oppose
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs' Association – Oppose SB's 79, 83
Scott Jones, NRA-ILA – Oppose
Dale Hentershot, MI Trappers & Predator Callers Association – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Breanna Borg, Mental Health Co-Response Partnership, City of Detroit – Support
Mark Palmer, Self - Support
Chad King, Self – no position
Dr. Allison Ruff, Self - Support
Dr. Kristin Chrouser, Self - Support
Dr. Roger Albin, Self - Support
Dr. Jessica Fealy, Self - Support
Ted Sadler, Self – no position
Dr. Vashali Bhargava, Self - Support
Dr. Philip Zazove, Self - Support
Dr. Alexandra Targan, Self - Support
Charlene Hsia, Oakland University William Beaumont School of Medicine Student - Support
Dr. Roufaida Al-Misky, Self - Support
Ann Clare Keane, Self - Support
Dr. Jerry S. Walden, Self - Support
Grosse Pointe for Sensible Gun Reform - Support
Dr. Jeffrey B. Halter, Self - Support
Dr. Libby Anderson, Self – Support HB 4138-4148 (SB 76-86)
Dr. Maya Heinert, Self - Ssupport
Dr. Michael D. Fetters, Self - Support
Dr. Larisa Traill, Self - Support
Heather Nicholoff, Mi Council of Nurse Practitioners - Support
Dr. Frank Wang, Self - Support
Vic Ledbetter, Director Truth Racial Health & Transformation, Kalamazoo Foundation - Support
Chelsie Downs-Hubbarth, Creative Consulting Hub - Support
Dr. Aisha Jamal, Self - Support
Dr. Anna McEvoy, Self - Support
Dr. Brian Engel, Self - Support
Dr. Rosalie Tocco-Bradley, Self - Support
Dr. Todd Morgan, Self - Support
Dr. Benjamin Mervak, Self - Support
Dr. Denise Zao, Self - Support
Dr. Roger D. Smith, Self - Support
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Dr. Catherine Bettcher, Self - Support
Thomas Carroll, Self – Support SB 73, 79, 84
Jessica Martin, Self – Support SB 73, 79, 84
Dr. Cynthia Pryce, Self - Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
Mary Pollock, American Association of University Women of Michigan - Support
Dr. Marissa D'Souza, Self - Support
Katie Cavanaugh, Okemos Public Schools Board of Education - support
Ramya Swami, Brady - Support
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:44 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 03/15/2023
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