HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
REP. NANCY DEBOER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, August 27, 2025
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office
Building
The House Committee on Education and Workforce was called to order by Chair DeBoer.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. DeBoer, Linting, Paquette, Fox, Kunse, St. Germaine, Pavlov, Wilson,
Koleszar, Weiss and Byrnes.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Paquette moved to adopt the meeting minutes from June 11, 2025. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4556 and HB 4557 before the committee:
HB 4556
(Rep. Kunse)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section
1279g (MCL 380.1279g), as amended by 2016
PA 170.
HB 4557
(Rep. Koleszar)
A bill to amend 1979 PA 94, entitled "The
state school aid act of 1979," by amending
sections 22p and 104c (MCL 388.1622p and
388.1704c), section 22p as amended by 2024
PA 120 and section 104c as amended by 2021
PA 48; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
Representative Kunse and Representative Koleszar testified together in support of HB 4556 & HB
4557. Questions and discussion followed.
Patrick O'Conner, the Government Relations Chair for the Michigan Association for College
Admission, testified in support of HB 4556 & HB 4557. Questions and discussion followed.
Ryan Feuins-Bliss, representing the Michigan College Access Network, testified in support of HB
4556 and HB 4557. Questions and discussions followed.
Sarah Gammans, representing Northview High School & Michigan Association for College
Admission Counseling, testified in support of HB 4556 and HB 4557. Questions and discussions
followed.
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals, testified in
support of HB 4556 and HB 4557. Questions and discussions followed.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4556 and HB 4557, but did not wish to
speak:
Olivia Ponte, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4556 and HB 4557, but did not wish to
speak:
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Stephanie Glidden, representing the Michigan School Counselor Association.
Andy Neumann, representing the Michigan Education Association.
The Chair laid HB 4024 before the committee:
HB 4024
(Rep. Fox)
A bill to require that certain educational
institutions in this state, when providing
students with multiple occupancy restrooms,
changing areas, and similar facilities, do so in a
manner that ensures each student's privacy
from individuals of the opposite biological
sex; and to provide for the powers and duties
of certain state and local governmental officers
and entities.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4024. The motion prevailed 6-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. DeBoer, Paquette, Fox, Kunse, St. Germaine and Pavlov.
Nays: Reps. Wilson, Koleszar, Weiss and Byrnes.
Pass: None.
Representative Fox testified in support of HB 4024. Questions and discussion follow.
Kyle Zawacki, representing the American Civil Liberties Union, testified in opposition to HB
4024. Questions and discussions followed.
Dr. Linda Lee Tarver, representing the Educational Advocate, testified in support of HB 4024.
Questions and discussions followed.
Tim Schmig, representing the Michigan Association of Christian Schools, testified in support of
HB 4024.
Kristin Lee, representing Citizens Defending Freedom, testified in support of HB 4024. Questions
and discussions followed.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4024, but did not wish to speak:
Kay Perry.
Rev. Lois McCullen Parr.
Dawn Espy.
Rachel Richards, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4024, but did not wish to speak:
Katherine Bussard & William Wagner, representing Salt & Light Global.
Representative Linting moved to report out HB 4024 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 7-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. DeBoer, Linting, Paquette, Fox, Kunse, St. Germaine and Pavlov.
Nays: Reps. Wilson, Koleszar, Weiss and Byrnes.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair DeBoer adjourned the meeting at
11:51 AM.
Representative Nancy DeBoer, Chair
Brittany Middaugh
Committee Clerk
bmiddaugh@house.mi.gov