HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
REP. PAT OUTMAN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
The House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure was called to order by Chair
Outman.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Absent: Rep. Hope.
Excused: Rep. Hope.
Representative Alexander moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 11, 2025. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4230, HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186
and HB 4187 before the committee:
Tuesday, March 18, 2025
Noon.
Room 519, House Office
Building
HB 4230
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1951 PA 51, entitled "An act
to provide for the classification of all public
roads, streets, and highways in this state, and
for the revision of that classification and for
additions to and deletions from each
classification; to set up and establish the
Michigan transportation fund; to provide for
the deposits in the Michigan transportation
fund of specific taxes on motor vehicles and
motor vehicle fuels; to provide for the
allocation of funds from the Michigan
transportation fund and the use and
administration of the fund for transportation
purposes; to promote safe and efficient travel
for motor vehicle drivers, bicyclists,
pedestrians, and other legal users of roads,
streets, and highways; to set up and establish
the truck safety fund; to provide for the
allocation of funds from the truck safety fund
and administration of the fund for truck safety
purposes; to set up and establish the Michigan
truck safety commission; to establish certain
standards for road contracts for certain
businesses; to provide for the continuing
review of transportation needs within the
state; to authorize the state transportation
commission, counties, cities, and villages to
borrow money, issue bonds, and make
pledges of funds for transportation purposes;
to authorize counties to advance funds for the
payment of deficiencies necessary for the
payment of bonds issued under this act; to
provide for the limitations, payment,
retirement, and security of the bonds and
pledges; to provide for appropriations and tax
levies by counties and townships for county
roads; to authorize contributions by townships
for county roads; to provide for the
establishment and administration of the state
trunk line fund, local bridge fund,
comprehensive transportation fund, and
certain other funds; to provide for the deposits
in the state trunk line fund, critical bridge
fund, comprehensive transportation fund, and
certain other funds of money raised by
specific taxes and fees; to provide for
definitions of public transportation functions
and criteria; to define the purposes for which
Michigan transportation funds may be
allocated; to provide for Michigan
transportation fund grants; to provide for
review and approval of transportation
programs; to provide for submission of annual
legislative requests and reports; to provide for
the establishment and functions of certain
advisory entities; to provide for conditions for
grants; to provide for the issuance of bonds
and notes for transportation purposes; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain
state and local agencies and officials; to
provide for the making of loans for
transportation purposes by the state
transportation department and for the receipt
and repayment by local units and agencies of
those loans from certain specified sources; to
investigate and study the tolling of roads,
streets, highways, or bridges; and to repeal
acts and parts of acts," (MCL 247.651 to
247.675) by adding section 13c.
HB 4180
(Rep. Steele)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled
"General sales tax act," by amending sections
6a and 6c (MCL 205.56a and 205.56c),
section 6a as amended by 2015 PA 264 and
section 6c as added by 2015 PA 262, and by
adding sections 4gg and 4hh.
HB 4181
(Rep. Frisbie)
A bill to amend 2004 PA 175, entitled
"Streamlined sales and use tax revenue
equalization act," by amending sections 3 and
5 (MCL 205.173 and 205.175), section 3 as
amended by 2015 PA 177 and section 5 as
amended by 2022 PA 24.
HB 4182
(Rep. Slagh)
A bill to amend 1937 PA 94, entitled "Use tax
act," by amending sections 6c and 21 (MCL
205.96c and 205.111), section 6c as added by
2015 PA 263 and section 21 as amended by
2023 PA 175, and by adding sections 4gg and
4hh.
HB 4183
(Rep. Kunse)
A bill to amend 2000 PA 403, entitled "Motor
fuel tax act," by amending section 8 (MCL
207.1008), as amended by 2015 PA 176.
HB 4184
(Rep. Thompson)
A bill to amend 1945 PA 327, entitled
"Aeronautics code of the state of Michigan,"
by amending sections 34 and 203 (MCL
259.34 and 259.203), section 34 as amended
by 2015 PA 259 and section 203 as amended
by 2015 PA 260.
HB 4185
(Rep. Linting)
A bill to amend 1933 PA 167, entitled
"General sales tax act," by amending section
25 (MCL 205.75), as amended by 2023 PA
20.
HB 4186
(Rep. Carra)
A bill to amend 2007 PA 36, entitled
"Michigan business tax act," by amending
sections 201 and 500 (MCL 208.1201 and
208.1500), section 201 as amended by 2012
PA 605 and section 500 as amended by 2019
PA 90.
HB 4187
(Rep. Outman)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled
"Income tax act of 1967," by amending
sections 623 and 695 (MCL 206.623 and
206.695), section 623 as amended by 2021 PA
135 and section 695 as amended by 2023 PA
4.
At 12:20 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:21 PM, Majority Vice Chair Alexander called the committee back to order.
Chair Outman testified in support of HB 4230. Questions and discussions followed.
At 12:27 PM, Majority Vice Chair Alexander laid the committee at ease.
At 12:28 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Jack Hoffman, representing Rapid - City of Grand Rapids, testified in support of HB 4180, HB
4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, HB 4187, and HB 4230.
Ed Noyla, representing the County Road Association, testified in support HB 4180, HB 4181,
HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, HB 4187, and HB 4230.
Robert Joerg, representing the Michigan Laborers District Council, testified in support of HB
4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, HB 4187, and HB 4230.
Ron Brenke, representing the American Council of Engineering Companies, testified in support
of HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, and HB 4187.
Earl Cox, Sr., representing the Amalgamated Transit Union, testified in support of HB 4180, HB
4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, and HB 4187.
John Dulmes, representing the Michigan Public Transit Association, testified with a neutral
position on HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, and HB
4187.
Megan Owens, representing the Transportation Riders United, testified with a neutral position on
HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, and HB 4187.
Judy Allen, representing the Michigan Townships Association, testified in support of HB 4180,
HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, and HB 4230.
John LaMachia, representing the Michigan Municipal League, testified in support of HB 4180,
HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4185 HB 4187 and HB 4230. Questions and discussions
followed.
Deena Bosworth, representing the Michigan Association of Counties, testified in support of HB
4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, and HB 4230.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183,
HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, HB 4187, and HB 4230, but did not wish to speak:
Steve Waalkes, representing the Michigan Concrete Association.
James Hohrman, representing the Mackinac Center.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182,
HB 4183, HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186, and HB 4187, but did not wish to speak:
Ross Gavin, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183,
HB 4184, HB 4185, HB 4186 and HB 4187, but did not wish to speak:
Brett Stanton, representing the Asphalt Pavement Association of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4182, HB 4183 and
HB 4185, but did not wish to speak:
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4180, HB 4181, HB 4183, HB 4185,
and HB 4187, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Alaimo, representing the Michigan Chamber.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4186, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Alaimo, representing the Michigan Chamber.
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
Mike Johnston, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4180. The motion prevailed 16-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Alexander moved to report out HB 4180 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 11-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Frisbie moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4181. The motion prevailed 16-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Frisbie moved to report out HB 4181 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Bruck moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4182. The motion prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Bruck moved to report out HB 4182 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4183. The motion prevailed 16-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse moved to report out HB 4183 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 10-1-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie, Wortz and
Herzberg.
Nays: Rep. Carra.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Bohnak moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4184. The motion prevailed 16-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Bohnak moved to report out HB 4184 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 10-1-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie, Wortz and
Herzberg.
Nays: Rep. Carra.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Frisbie moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4185. The motion prevailed 16-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Frisbie moved to report out HB 4185 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 10-1-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie, Wortz and
Herzberg.
Nays: Rep. Carra.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Carra moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4186. The motion prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Carra moved to report out HB 4186 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 10-0-6:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie and
Wortz.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Prestin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4187. The motion prevailed 16-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Grant offered the following amendments to HB 4187:
1. Amend page 5, line 8m after “(b)” by striking out the balance of the line through “after”
on line 9 and inserting “After”.
2. Amend page 5, line 27, after “part,” by striking out “up to $2,200,000,000.00” and
inserting “$50,000,000.00”.
3. Amend page 5, line 28, after “deposited” by inserting “to the Michigan housing and
community development fund created in section 58a of the state housing development authority
act of 1966, 1966 PA 346, MCL 125.1458a,”.
4. Amend page6, line 3, after “deposited” by inserting “and up to $2,200,000,000.00 of the
revenue collected under this part must be deposited”.
5. Amend page 6, line 22, after “part,” by inserting “$50,000,000.00 of the revenue
collected under this part must be deposited to the Michigan housing and community
development fund created in section 58a of the state housing development authority act of
1966, 1966 PA 346, MCL 125.1458a, and”.
Representative Grant moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4187. The motion did not prevail 6-
0-10:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CAL
Yeas: Reps. Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson Jr.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie and
Wortz.
Representative Andrews offered the following amendments to HB 4187:
1. Amend page 6, following line 19, by inserting:
“(c) After the distributions under subdivisions (a) and (b), up to $5,000,000.00, if
available, to the department of transportation for distribution to entities that receive a
distribution under subdivision (a) (ii) or (iii) and demonstrate that the entities have entered
into a contract pursuant to section 18d of 1951 PA 51, MCL 247.668d, or otherwise
collaborated on a road funding project, that resulted in reduced costs for environmental or
permitting reviews and studies attributable to that contract or project.”.
2. Amend page 7, following line 10, by inserting:
“(c) After the distributions under subdivisions (a) and (b), up to $5,000,000.00, if
available, to the department of transportation for distribution to entities that receive a
distribution under subdivision (a) (ii) or (iii) and demonstrate that the entities have entered
into a contract pursuant to section 18d of 1951 PA 51, MCL 247.668d, or otherwise
collaborated on a road funding project, that resulted in reduced costs for environmental or
permitting reviews and studies attributable to that contract or project.”.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4187. The motion did not
prevail 6-0-10:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CAL
Yeas: Reps. Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson Jr.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie and
Wortz.
Representative Andrews offered the following amendments to HB 4187:
1. Amend page 6, line 18, after “(b)” by striking out “Ten” and inserting “Five”.
2. Amend page 6, following line 19, by inserting:
“(c) Five percent to the comprehensive transportation fund established in section 10b
of 1951 PA 51m MCL 247.660b.”.
3. Amend page 7, line 9, after “(b)” by striking out “Ten” and inserting “Five”.
4. Amend page 7, following line 10, by inserting:
“(c) Five percent to the comprehensive transportation fund established in section 10b
of 1951 PA 51, MCL 247.660b.”.
Representative Andrews moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4187. The motion did not
prevail 6-0-10:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CAL
Yeas: Reps. Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson Jr.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie and
Wortz.
Representative Neyer moved to report out HB 4187 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 10-1-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie, Wortz and
Herzberg.
Nays: Rep. Carra.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Wortz moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4230. The motion prevailed 16-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Carra, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie,
Wortz, Herzberg, Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse moved to report out HB 4230 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 10-1-5:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Outman, Alexander, Bruck, Kunse, Neyer, Prestin, Bohnak, Frisbie, Wortz and
Herzberg.
Nays: Rep. Carra.
Pass: Reps. Koleszar, Andrews, Grant, Miller and Wilson.
Representative Herzberg moved to excuse Representative Hope from the meeting. There being
no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Outman adjourned the meeting at
1:29 PM.
Representative Pat Outman, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov