HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON RULES
REP. BILL SCHUETTE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 30, 2025
10:30 AM
Room 428, State Capitol
Building
The House Committee on Rules was called to order by Chair Schuette.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and
Herzberg.
Absent: Rep. DeBoer.
Excused: Rep. DeBoer.
Representative Posthumus moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 23, 2025. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4929 before the committee:
HB 4929
(Rep. Pavlov)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 16201
(MCL 333.16201), as amended by 2019 PA
96, and by adding section 16202.
Representative Aragona moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4929. The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
At 10:44 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:45 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Schuette offered the following amendment to HB 4929 (H-1):
1. Amend page 3, line 20, after "license" by inserting "or registration".
Representative Martin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4929 (H-1). The motion prevailed
8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Martin moved to report HB 4929, as amended, as substitute (H-2). The motion
prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4930 before the committee:
HB 4930
(Rep. Mueller)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 16177
(MCL 333.16177), as amended by 2006 PA
481.
Representative Aragona moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4930. The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Wendzel moved to report out HB 4930 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4929 and HB 4930, but did not wish to
speak:
Maknié Triemstra, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory
Affairs.
Jarrett Skorup, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The Chair laid HB 4221 before the committee:
HB 4221
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 16287 and
18811 (MCL 333.16287 and 333.18811),
section 16287 as amended by 2017 PA 22 and
section 18811 as amended by 2006 PA 406.
Representative Witwer moved to report out HB 4221 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Schuette, Aragona, Wendzel, Martin, Posthumus, Witwer, Liberati and Herzberg.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4346 and HB 4347 before the committee:
HB 4346
(Rep. Witwer)
A bill to amend 2019 PA 152, entitled "Lawful
internet gaming act," by amending section 15
(MCL 432.315).
HB 4347
(Rep. Kunse)
A bill to amend 1995 PA 279, entitled "Horse
racing law of 1995," by amending sections 2
and 20 (MCL 431.302 and 431.320), section 2
as amended by 2016 PA 271 and section 20 as
amended by 2019 PA 153.
Representative Kunse testified in support of HB 4346 and HB 4347. Questions and discussions
followed.
Byron Schuck, representing Horseman and County Fairs, testified in support of HB 4346 and HB
4347. Questions and discussions followed.
Kim Pluta, representing the Michigan Harness Horsemen's Association, testified in support of HB
4346 and HB 4347.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4346 and HB 4347, but did not wish to
speak:
Saree Miller, representing the Allegan County Fair.
Jeff Dawson, representing the Croswell County Fair.
Donna Thompson, representing the Clare County Fair.
Dennis Redman, representing the Barry County Fair.
John Currie, representing the Mecosta County Fair.
Matt Kempf, representing the Newaygo County Fair.
LC Scramlin, representing the Oakland County Fair.
Lisa Rife, representing the Michigan Association of Fairs and Exhibitions.
Ron Khoury, representing the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4346 and HB 4347, but did not wish to
speak:
Beatrice Friedlander, representing the Attorneys for Animals.
The Chair laid HB 5103 before the committee:
HB 5103
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act,"
by amending sections 32312, 32312a, and
32510 (MCL 324.32312, 324.32312a, and
324.32510), section 32312 as amended by
2021 PA 91, section 32312a as added by 1997
PA 126, and section 32510 as added by 1995
PA 59, and by adding section 32510a.
Representative VanWoerkom testified in support of HB 5103. Questions and discussions
followed.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5103, but did not wish to speak:
Dylan Gebhard, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and
Energy.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club.
The Chair laid HB 4926 before the committee:
HB 4926
(Rep. St. Germaine)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 16211,
16216, and 16238 (MCL 333.16211,
333.16216, and 333.16238), section 16211 as
amended and section 16238 as added by 1993
PA 79 and section 16216 as amended by 2014
PA 413, and by adding section 16211a.
Representative St. Germaine testified in support of HB 4926. Questions and discussions followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4926, but did not wish to speak:
Karlene Ketola, representing the Michigan Academy of Family Physicians.
Kate Dorsey, representing the Michigan State Medical Society.
Jarrett Skorup, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Representative Herzberg moved to excuse Representative DeBoer from the meeting. There being
no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Schuette adjourned the meeting at
11:11 AM.
Representative Bill Schuette, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov