MEMBERS:
SEN. DARRIN CAMILLERI, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. MARY CAVANAGH
SEN. THOMAS ALBERT, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
SENATOR JOHN CHERRY
CHAIR
3600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0142
FAX: (517) 373-3938
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
September 14, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Labor was scheduled for Thursday, September 14, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in
the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported SB 165 (S-1) ( Cherry) with recommendation.
2. Reported SB 166 (S-2) (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation.
3. Reported SB 167 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation.
4. Testimony regarding HB 4438 (Rep. Breen) and HB 4439 (Rep. Bezotte).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:34 a.m.. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri, Cavanagh and Albert, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to adopt the meeting minutes from June 27, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #1, to SB 165.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #1 to SB 165. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report the (S-1) version of SB 165 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
Sen. Albert offered, and summarized, an Albert Amendment #1, to SB 166.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the Albert Amendment #1 to SB 166. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Albert to adopt the (S-4) version of SB 166. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Sen.(s) Albert
Nays: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh
The motion failed and the substitute was not adopted..
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cavanagh to report the (S-2) version of SB 166 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Camilleri to report the (S-1) version of SB 167 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Cherry, Sen.(s) Camilleri and Cavanagh.
Nays: Sen.(s) Albert.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 165, SB
166 and SB 167:
Erik Bailey, Michigan State Employees Association – Support
Ray Sholtz, Michigan Corrections Organization – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4438 and HB 4439:
Reps. Kelly Breen and Bob Bezotte – Support
Dan Pfannes, Michigan Sheriff's Association – Support
Chris Swanson, Genesee County Sheriff – Support
Michelle LaJoye, Kent County Sheriff – Support
Jon Picnataro and Joe Walker, Police Officers Association of Michigan – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4438
and HB 4439:
Tim Sielinski, Resident – Support
Joe Strong, Jackson County Corrections – Support
Joe Bates, Calhoun County Deputy Sheriffs Association – Support
Ryan Steverson, Jackson County Corrections Association – Support
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriff's Association – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4438:
Dan Hurley, Michigan Association of State Universities – Opposition
Steve Delie, Mackinac Center – Opposition
Madeline Fata, Michigan Association of Counties – Opposition
Bradley Richman, Capitol City Labor Program – Support
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There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:12 a.m.
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