HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON LABOR
REP. JIM HAADSMA
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 19, 2023
9:00 AM
Room 326, House Office Building
The House Committee on Labor was called to order by Chair Haadsma.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela,
Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 12, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4932 and HB 4962 before the committee:
HB 4932
(Rep. Skaggs)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 90, entitled "Youth
employment standards act," by amending sections
2, 3, 20, 21, and 22 (MCL 409.102, 409.103,
409.120, 409.121, and 409.122), section 2 as
amended by 1996 PA 438, section 3 as amended
by 1997 PA 132, and section 22 as amended by
1980 PA 436.
HB 4962
(Rep. Scott)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 14b
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.14b), as added by
2002 PA 29.
A substitute (H-1) was adopted for HB 4932 at the October 12th, 2023 meeting.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4932 and HB 4962, but did not wish
to speak:
Allen D. Lee, representing the Restaurant Opportunities Centers Michigan.
Representative Kunse introduced and explained his package of amendments to HB 4932 (H-
1). Questions and discussion followed.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendment to HB 4932 (H-1):
1. Amend page 5, line 4, by striking out all of subdivision (c).
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4932 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendment to HB 4932 (H-1):
1. Amend page 5, line 12, by striking out all of subsection (5).
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendment to HB 4932 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Kunse offered the following amendments to HB 4932 (H-1):
1. Amend page 6, line 26, after "not" by striking out the balance of the subdivision
and inserting "more than $68,801.00 or, if the violation is repeated or willful, not more
than $137,602.00.".
2. Amend page 7, line 1, after "not" by striking out the balance of the subdivision and
inserting "more than $68,801.00 or, if the violation is repeated or willful, not more than
$137,602.00.".
3. Amend page 7, line 5, after "not" by striking out the balance of the subdivision and
inserting "more than $68,801.00 or, if the violation is repeated or willful, not more than
$137,602.00.".
Representative Kunse moved to adopt the amendments to HB 4932 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 3-7-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller, Kunse.
Nays: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Pass: None.
Representative Mentzer moved to report out HB 4932 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller.
Representative O'Neal moved to report out HB 4962 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 7-1-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Haadsma, Mentzer, Koleszar, O'Neal, Andrews, Churches, Wegela.
Nays: Rep. Kunse.
Pass: Reps. Wozniak, Mueller.
The Chair laid HB 5026 before the committee:
HB 5026
(Rep. Martus)
A bill to provide for the transition of transition-
impacted industries into new industries; to create
the community and worker economic transition
office in the department of labor and economic
opportunity; to create certain advisory
committees; and to provide for the powers and
duties of certain state governmental officers and
entities.
Representative Martus and Senator Singh testified in support of HB 5026. Questions and
discussion followed.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial
Organizations, testified in support of HB 5026.
Jean Duchemin, representing the United Auto Workers Local 1753, testified in support of HB
5026.
Jason Peek, representing the United Auto Workers Local 602, testified in support of HB 5026.
Questions and discussion followed.
Robert Joerg, representing the Laborers' International Union of North America, testified in
support of HB 5026. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5026, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Spence, representing the Southeast Council of Governments.
Amy Malmer, representing the Metropolitan Affairs Coalition.
Stephanie Johnson, representing the Utility Workers Union of America.
Dawn Kettinger, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5026, but did not wish to speak:
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Amanda Fisher, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
The Chair laid SB 169 before the committee:
SB 169
(Sen. Cherry)
A bill to amend 1947 PA 336, entitled "An act to
prohibit strikes by certain public employees; to
provide review from disciplinary action with
respect thereto; to provide for the mediation of
grievances and the holding of elections; to declare
and protect the rights and privileges of public
employees; to require certain provisions in
collective bargaining agreements; to prescribe
means of enforcement and penalties for the
violation of the provisions of this act; and to make
appropriations," (MCL 423.201 to 423.217) by
adding section 11a.
Senator Cherry, and Jonavan Luckey, representing the Service Employees International
Union 517M, testified in support of SB 169. Questions and discussion followed.
Steve Rzeppa, representing the American Federation of State, County and Municipal
Employees, testified in support of SB 169. Questions and discussion followed.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards, testified in
opposition to SB 169.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 169, but did not wish to speak:
Dr. David Michelson, representing the Michigan Education Association.
Beth Kelly Byrd, representing the Service Employees International Union Michigan.
Matt Sowash, representing the Police Officers Association of Michigan.
Ryan Sebolt, representing the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial
Organizations of Michigan.
Dawn Kettinger, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 169, but did not wish to speak:
Matt Schueller, representing the Michigan Association for Superintendents and
Administrators.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Alliance for Student Opportunity.
Steve Delie, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Haadsma adjourned the meeting
at 10:22 AM.
Representative Jim Haadsma, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov