HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. JULIE M. ROGERS
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 12, 2023
10:45 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Rogers.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia,
Conlin, Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom,
Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Coffia moved to adopt the meeting minutes from October 5, 2023. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4504 and HB 4505 before the committee:
HB 4504
(Rep. Fitzgerald)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 16188.
HB 4505
(Rep. Zorn)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 17801 (MCL
333.17801), as amended by 2009 PA 55, and by
adding sections 17820a and 17820b.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4504 and HB 4505, but did not wish
to speak:
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
Rich Farran, representing the Health Care Association of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4504 and HB 4505, but did not
wish to speak:
Mack Jones, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Representative Glanville moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4504. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Conlin moved to report out HB 4504 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Thompson moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4505. The motion prevailed
18-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Schmaltz moved to report out HB 4505 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4169 and HB 4170 before the committee:
HB 4169
(Rep. Rogers)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," (MCL 333.1101 to 333.25211) by
adding section 16188.
HB 4170
(Rep. Wozniak)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 18301 (MCL
333.18301), as amended by 2008 PA 523, and by
adding sections 18303a and 18303b.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4169 and HB 4170, but did not wish
to speak:
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance of Michigan.
Rich Farran, representing the Health Care Association of Michigan.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4169 and HB 4170, but did not
wish to speak:
Mack Jones, representing the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Representative Neeley moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4169. The motion prevailed
19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Fitzgerald moved to report out HB 4169 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Filler moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4170. The motion prevailed 19-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Roth moved to report out HB 4170 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans, VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth,
Schmaltz, Thompson.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Clerk read a letter from Chair Rogers referring HB 5077 and HB 5078 to the
Subcommittee on Behavioral Health.
At 10:55 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:56 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4276 before the committee:
HB 4276
(Rep. Farhat)
A bill to amend 1939 PA 280, entitled "The social
welfare act," (MCL 400.1 to 400.119b) by adding
sections 105i and 105j.
Representative Haadsma moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 4276. The motion prevailed
12-0-7:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Rogers, Whitsett, Brenda Carter, Haadsma, Neeley, Glanville, Coffia, Conlin,
Farhat, Fitzgerald, Miller, Rheingans.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. VanderWall, Filler, Mueller, VanWoerkom, Roth, Schmaltz, Thompson.
Representative Farhat testified in support of HB 4276.
John Covello, the Director of Government Relations for the Independent Pharmacy
Cooperative, testified in support of HB 4276. Questions and discussion followed.
Joel Kurzman, the Director of State Government Affairs for the National Community
Pharmacists Association, testified in support of HB 4276.
John Gross, an independent pharmacy owner, testified in support of HB 4276. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 4276, but did not wish
to speak:
Chardae Burton, representing the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4276, but did not wish to speak:
Eric Roath, representing the Michigan Pharmacists Association.
Yousef Rabhi, representing the Michigan Nurses Association.
Fayez Faraj, representing the American Arab Pharmacist Association.
Sammy Salem, representing the American Arab Pharmacist Association.
The Chair laid SB 513 before the committee:
SB 513
(Sen. McBroom)
A bill to amend 1987 PA 230, entitled "Municipal
health facilities corporations act," by amending
section 305a (MCL 331.1305a), as amended by
2017 PA 148.
Senator McBroom testified in support of SB 513.
Hunter Nosrant, the CEO of Helen Newberry Joy Hospital, testified in support of SB 513.
Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 513, but did not wish to speak:
Melissa Holmquist, representing the Upper Peninsula Health Plan.
Adam Carlson, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Rogers adjourned the meeting at
11:28 AM.
Representative Julie M. Rogers, Chair
Matthew Carnagie
Acting Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov