HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
REP. NANCY DEBOER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 22, 2025
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office
Building
The House Committee on Education and Workforce was called to order by Chair DeBoer.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. DeBoer, Linting, Paquette, Fox, Kunse, St. Germaine, Pavlov, Koleszar, Weiss
and Byrnes.
Absent: Rep. Wilson.
Excused: Rep. Wilson.
Representative Paquette moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 24, 2025. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4922 before the committee:
HB 4922
(Rep. Kelly)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to
380.1852) by adding section 1531k.
Representative Kelly testified in support of HB 4922. Questions and discussion followed.
Steve Gough, Lowell Area Schools- Director of Teaching and Learning, testified in opposition to
HB 4922.
Kathy Lester, representing the Michigan Association of School Librarians, testified in opposition
to HB 4922. Questions and discussions followed.
Lori Lillmars, representing the School Librarians, testified in opposition to HB 4922.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4922, but did not wish to speak:
Tammy Maginity, representing the Michigan Association for Computer Users in Learning.
Sara Hoeve, representing the Michigan Council of Teachers of English.
Michigan Reading Association.
Anne Heidemann.
Olivia Ponte, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
Dillon Geshel, representing the Michigan Library Association.
Jeff Cobb, representing Ed Trust Midwest.
Dr. David Michelson, representing the Michigan Education Association.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4922, but did not wish to speak:
Tim Goldings and Sonny Koch, representing Americans for Prosperity-Michigan.
Jarrett Skorup, representing the Mackinac Center.
The following people submitted a card wishing to speak in opposition to HB 4922, but due to the
time constraints were unable to speak:
Carrie Betts, representing themself.
Carol Glanville, representing themself.
The Chair laid HB 4665 before the committee:
HB 4665
(Rep. Witwer)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to
380.1852) by adding section 1138a.
Representative Whitwer testified in support of HB 4665. Questions and discussions followed
Doug Pennington, the Olivet Community Schools FFA Advisor, and Samantha Stanke, the
Administrative Assistant for the Michigan FFA State Staff, testified in support of HB 4665.
Questions and discussions followed.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4665, but did not wish to speak:
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals.
Olivia Ponte, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
Representative Linting moved to report out HB 4665 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
8-0-2:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. DeBoer, Linting, Paquette, Fox, Kunse, St. Germaine, Pavlov and Koleszar.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Weiss and Byrnes.
The Chair laid HB 5044 before the committee:
HB 5044
(Rep. Wendzel)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," (MCL 380.1 to
380.1852) by adding section 1178b.
Representative Wendzel and Kristin Wier, a Board-Certified Behavior Analyst from LOGAN
Community Resources, testified in support of HB 5044.
Maggie Moore, representing MiBap & Hope Network, testified in support of HB 5044.
Angela Khater, a Board-Certified Behavior Analyst, testified in support of HB 5044.
Heather Eckner & Nicole Hamp, representing the Autism Alliance of Michigan, testified in
support of HB 5044. Questions and discussions followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5044, but did not wish to speak:
Skyler Partee.
Paul Doher, representing Acorn Health.
Dylan Weber, representing the Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Maliya Seelbinder.
Brian Harrison, representing Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Madeline Tousley, representing Merakey.
Melissa Poff, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Christiane Mondroski.
Angela Khater.
Ella Mondroski.
Kris La Turno, representing Hope Network-Holland Center for Autism.
Abigail Edick, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Veronica Webster, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Holly McKee, PhD.
Olivia Kleinhardt.
Ryan Pelon, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Kailin Reid, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Sarah Walsh, representing Hope Network Center for Autism-Holland.
Mickaela Perez, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Krystal Reeves, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Brianna Dunham.
Kayla Hooper.
Candice Lake.
Sara Larner.
Carter St. John.
Laila Manning.
Jessica Groce.
Jystine Lupo.
Samantha Miller.
Sarah Rousseau, representing Spectrum Autism Center-Saginaw.
Jennifer Ward-Kolka, representing Spectrum Autism Center.
Mari-Lena Samohin.
Katie LaVielle, representing Spectrum Autism Center.
Michelle Pickvet, representing Rebound Therapies.
Melanie Swisher, representing Rebound Home & Community Therapies.
Lindsay Croghan, representing the College of Education, Health & Human Services.
LeAnne Large, representing Rebound Therapies.
Evan Karatkiewicz, representing Rebound Therapies.
Lorraine Zorbo, representing Advisa Care.
Bailey Wegener, representing Spectrum Autism Center.
Paloma Mireles, representing Spectrum Autism Center- Paw Paw.
Jenna Kuhn, representing Rebound Therapies.
Massi Soriano, representing Centria Autism.
Victoria Hetcel.
Chivon Jones, representing Rebound Therapies.
Amber Simons, representing Rebound Therapies.
Courtney Geer, representing Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Nicole Mooney, representing Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Mary Ruble, representing Spectrum Autism Center.
Lisa Lovell, representing Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Heather Burleson, representing Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Olivia Ramirez-Roberts.
Julie Swan, representing Rebound Home and Community Therapy.
Michelle Blevins.
Betsy Reighard.
Tara Lundstrom, representing Spectrum Autism Center.
Anna Woodhams, representing LOGAN Center.
David Eisenhart, representing LOGAN Center.
Kaylee Tomak, representing LOGAN Autism Learning Center.
Elizabeth Bliesener, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Megan Retherford.
Makayla Bauer, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Katie Burgett, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Peyton Grice.
Julia Johnson.
Mark Jacobs, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Shana Silverstein.
Nicole Schultz, representing LOGAN Center.
Stacie Kussro, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Jennifer LaBo, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Brooklynn Tackett, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Kalie Auernhamer, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Alexandria Perez, representing Spectrum Autism Center.
Skyler Ficek.
Savanah Diaz, representing Mercy Plus Healthcare Services.
Krista Corroin, representing Encompass Therapy Center.
Claudia Leandres, representing Journey Therapy Center.
Sara Grezlik, representing Friends of Different Learners.
Tammy Neely.
Colin Furd, representing the Michigan Chapter American Academy of Pediatrics.
Barbara Byers.
Lisa-Marie Bailey, representing the Michigan Parent, Advocate & Attorney Coalition.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5044, but did not wish to speak:
Joe DeVault, representing Macomb ISD.
John Severson, representing the Michigan Association of Intermediate School Administrators.
Abby Cypher, representing the Michigan Association of Administrators of Special Education.
Olivia Ponte, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
The Chair laid HB 5049, HB 5050, HB 5051, HB 5052, HB 5053 and HB 5054 before the
committee:
HB 5049
(Rep. Weiss)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section
1179a (MCL 380.1179a), as added by 2013
PA 187.
HB 5050
(Rep. Snyder)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 17744a
and 17744d (MCL 333.17744a and
333.17744d), as amended by 2020 PA 311.
HB 5051
(Rep. DeBoer)
A bill to amend 2020 PA 312, entitled "Law
enforcement and firefighter access to
epinephrine act," by amending the title and
sections 1, 2, and 3 (MCL 28.821, 28.822, and
28.823).
HB 5052
(Rep. DeBoer)
A bill to amend 1973 PA 116, entitled "An act
to provide for the protection of children
through the licensing and regulation of child
care organizations; to provide for the
establishment of standards of care for child
care organizations; to prescribe powers and
duties of certain departments of this state and
adoption facilitators; to provide penalties; and
to repeal acts and parts of acts," by amending
section 17a (MCL 722.127a), as added by
2005 PA 120.
HB 5053
(Rep. DeBoer)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 20919
(MCL 333.20919), as amended by 2019 PA
37.
HB 5054
(Rep. DeBoer)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending sections
1178 and 1179 (MCL 380.1178 and
380.1179), section 1178 as amended by 2020
PA 320 and section 1179 as amended by 2018
PA 243.
David Andriasiak and Jake Jelsema, representing the Office of Representative DeBoer, gave a
presentation on EpiPen usage. Questions and discussion followed.
Hendrina Cupery, representing the Michigan Association of School Nurses, testified in support of
HB 5049, HB 5050, HB 5051, HB 5052, HB 5053 and HB 5054.
Amy Zaagman, representing the Michigan Council for Maternal & Child Wealth, testified in
support of HB 5049, HB 5050, HB 5051, HB 5052, HB 5053 and HB 5054.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5049, HB 5050, HB 5051, HB 5052, HB
5053 and HB 5054, but did not wish to speak:
Tonya Whitehead, representing the Michigan Parent Teacher Association.
Olivia Ponte, representing the Michigan Department of Education.
Kathleen Slonager, representing the Asthma & Allergy Foundation of America.
Representative Linting moved to excuse Representative Wilson from the meeting. There being no
objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair DeBoer adjourned the meeting at
11:57 AM.
Representative Nancy DeBoer, Chair
Brittany Middaugh
Committee Clerk
bmiddaugh@house.mi.gov