HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
REP. BRANDT IDEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 4, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Ways and Means was called to order by Chair Iden.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel, Bolden.
Absent/Excused: None.
The Chair laid HB 5426 and HB 5427 before the committee:
HB 5426
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 2017 PA 132, entitled
"Cyber civilian corps act," by amending sections 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
and 7 (MCL 18.222, 18.223, 18.224, 18.225, 18.226, and
18.227).
HB 5427
(Rep. VanWoerkom)
A bill to amend 2017 PA 132,
entitled "Cyber civilian corps act," by amending sections 9
and 10 (MCL 18.229 and 18.230).
Representative Hall testified in support of HB 5426 and HB 5427.
Bree Anderson, representing the Michigan Department of Technology, Management, and Budget,
testified in support of HB 5426 and HB 5427.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5426 and HB 5427, but did not wish to
speak:
Hersanna Richards, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Patricia Herndon, representing the Michigan Bankers Association.
The Chair laid HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425 before the committee:
HB 5422
(Rep. Lilly)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A
petition to initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water, carbonated
natural or mineral water, other nonalcoholic carbonated
drink, and for beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever
alcoholic content, and for certain other beverage containers;
to provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits; to
prescribe the powers and duties of certain state agencies and
officials; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies,"
(MCL 445.571 to 445.576) by adding section 4c.
HB 5423
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A
petition to initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water, carbonated
natural or mineral water, other nonalcoholic carbonated
drink, and for beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever
alcoholic content, and for certain other beverage containers;
to provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits; to
prescribe the powers and duties of certain state agencies and
officials; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies,"
by amending section 3c (MCL 445.573c), as amended by
1996 PA 384.
HB 5424
(Rep. Chirkun) A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A
petition to initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water, carbonated
natural or mineral water, other nonalcoholic carbonated
drink, and for beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever
alcoholic content, and for certain other beverage containers;
to provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits; to
prescribe the powers and duties of certain state agencies and
officials; and to prescribe penalties and provide remedies,"
by amending section 4 (MCL 445.574), as amended by 1998
PA 473.
HB 5425
(Rep. Sneller)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The
code of criminal procedure," by amending section 14h of
chapter XVII (MCL 777.14h), as amended by 2019 PA 49.
Spencer Nevins, representing the Michigan Beer and Wine Wholesalers Association, testified in
support of HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Herasanna Richards, representing the Michigan Municipal League, testified in opposition to HB
5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Representative Sneller testified in support of HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Representative Chirkun testified in support of HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Representative Lilly testified in support of HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Derek Bajema, representing the Michigan Soft Drink Association, testified in support of HB
5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425.
Amy Epkey, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy,
testified in opposition to HB 5423.
Josh Mosher, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy,
testified in opposition to HB 5423.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5422, HB 5424 and HB 5425, but did
not wish to speak:
Amy Trotter, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5423, but did not wish to speak:
Amy Trotter, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
Dave Greco, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5422, HB 5423, HB 5424 and HB 5425,
but did not wish to speak:
Tom Emmerich, representing Schupan and Sons, Inc..
Nick Kronsbein, representing UBCR LLC.
Jason Geer, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5423, but due to the time constraints
were unable to speak:
Sean McBrearty, representing Clean Water Action
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters
Sean Hammond, representing the Michigan Environmental Council
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5423 and HB 5424, but did not wish to
speak:
Bill Black, representing the Teamsters.
The Chair laid SB 762 before the committee:
SB 762
(Sen. Horn)
A bill to amend 1951 PA 33, entitled "An act
to provide police and fire protection for townships and for
certain areas in townships, certain incorporated villages, and
certain cities; to authorize contracting for fire and police
protection; to authorize the purchase of fire and police
equipment, and the maintenance and operation of the
equipment; to provide for defraying the cost of the
equipment; to authorize the creation of special assessment
districts and the levying and collecting of special
assessments; to authorize the issuance of special assessment
bonds in anticipation of the collection of special assessments
and the advancement of the amount necessary to pay such
bonds, and to provide for reimbursement for such advances
by reassessment if necessary; to authorize the collection of
fees for certain emergency services in townships and other
municipalities; to authorize the creation of administrative
boards and to prescribe their powers and duties; to provide
for the appointment of traffic officers and to prescribe their
powers and duties; and to repeal acts and parts of acts," by
amending section 10 (MCL 41.810), as amended by 2004 PA
463.
Senator Horn testified in support of SB 762.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 762, but did not wish to speak:
Rob Mass, representing Representative Vanessa Guerra's Office.
Jen Rigterink, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Madison Clement, representing the Saginaw Chamber of Commerce.
The Chair laid SB 543 before the committee:
SB 543
(Sen. VanderWall)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 701 (MCL 436.1701), as amended by 2010 PA 266.
Senator VanderWall testified in support of SB 543.
Tom Stein, representing CLEAR, testified in support of SB 543.
The Chair returned to HB 5426 and HB 5427:
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5426. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kahle moved to report out HB 5426 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Leutheuser moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5427. The motion prevailed
11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5427 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair returned to HB's 5422, 5423, 5424, and 5425:
Representative Iden offered the following amendment to HB 5422:
1. Amend page 2, line 2, after the first "a" by striking out "nonalcoholic beverage" and
inserting "beverage, not including beer, ale, or other malt drink of whatever alcoholic content, or
a mixed wine drink or mixed spirit drink,".
Representative Lilly moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5422. The motion prevailed 8-3-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd.
Nays: Reps. Warren, Hertel, Bolden.
Pass: None.
Representative Leutheuser moved to report out HB 5422 with recommendation, as amended, as
substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 8-2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd.
Nays: Reps. Warren, Bolden.
Pass: Rep. Hertel.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5423. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5423 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 8-2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd.
Nays: Reps. Warren, Bolden.
Pass: Rep. Hertel.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5424 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
8-2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd.
Nays: Reps. Warren, Bolden.
Pass: Rep. Hertel.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5425 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
8-2-1:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd.
Nays: Reps. Warren, Bolden.
Pass: Rep. Hertel.
The Chair returned to SB 762:
Representative Lilly moved to report out SB 762 with recommendation. The motion prevailed
10-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Warren, Byrd, Hertel, Bolden.
Nays: Rep. Meerman.
Pass: None.
The Chair returned to SB 543:
Representative Hauck moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to SB 543. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to SB 543. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kahle moved to report out SB 543 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2). The
motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 3, 2020. There being no
objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Brandt Iden adjourned the meeting at
11:52 AM.
Representative Brandt Iden, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov