MEMBERS:
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JOHN CHERRY
SEN. VERONICA KLINEFELT
SEN. ERIKA GEISS
SEN. MICHAEL WEBBER, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. ROGER HAUCK
SEN. MARK HUIZENGA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
SENATOR KEVIN HERTEL
CHAIR
7600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7315
FAX: (517) 373-3126
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
November 8, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy was scheduled for Wednesday, November 8, 2023, at 8:30
a.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Testimony regarding SB 365 (Sen. Hertel).
2. Reported HB 4885 (S-1) (Rep. McKinney) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4923 (Rep. Aragona) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4167 (S-1) (Rep. Morgan) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:43 a.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber,
Hauck, Huizenga, and Runestad, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the meeting minutes from November 2, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair summarized SB 365.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB 365:
Erik Castaneda, 1800 Contacts – Support
Dr. Kelly Kruk, Citizen – Support
Dr. Jennifer Schad and Dr. Erica Johnson Carder, Michigan Optometric Association – Oppose
Monica Martinez, Michigan Society of Eye Physicians and Surgeons – Neutral
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding SB 365:
Aaron Porter, Eye Care Partners – Oppose
The Chair invited Rep.(s) McKinney and Aragona to summarize HB 4885 and HB 4923.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4885 and HB 4923:
Rich Farran, The Healthcare Association of Michigan – Support
Page 1 of 3
Michelle Berryman, Medilodge – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4885 (S-
1):
Mack Jones, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs – No Position
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4885
and HB 4923:
Dawn Kettinger, Michigan Nurses Association – Oppose
Elizabeth Kelly Byrd, SEIU Michigan – Support
Tony Des Chenes, Leading Age of Michigan – Support
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of HB 4885.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Geiss to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4885. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to report the (S-1) version of HB 4885 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Webber to report HB 4923 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, Huizenga, and
Runestad
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair offered, and summarized, an (S-1) version of HB 4167.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4167. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, and Huizenga
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4167:
Elizabeth Kutter, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
Laura Bonnell, The Bonnell Foundation – Support
Colleen Kelly Ford – Support
Stephen Rapundalo, MichBio – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Cherry to report the (S-1) version of HB 4167 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Page 2 of 3
Yeas: Chair Hertel, Sen.(s) Santana, Wojno, Cherry, Klinefelt, Geiss, Webber, Hauck, and Huizenga
Nays: Sen. Runestad
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair announced that SB 633 through SB 638 were being removed from the meeting's agenda.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:36 a.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: February 7, 2024
Page 3 of 3