HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
REP. FELICIA BRABEC
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, November 14, 2024
9:00 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Health Policy Subcommittee on Behavioral Health was called to order by Chair
Brabec.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Brabec, Pohutsky, Edwards, MacDonell, Rheingans, Herzberg, Schmaltz,
Hoadley, St. Germaine, Thompson.
Absent: Rep. Arbit.
Excused: Rep. Arbit.
Representative Pohutsky moved to adopt the meeting minutes from November 7, 2024. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5184 and HB 5185 before the committee:
HB 5184
(Rep. Brabec)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 18503, 18504,
18506, 18506a, 18509, and 18518 (MCL
333.18503, 333.18504, 333.18506, 333.18506a,
333.18509, and 333.18518), sections 18503 and
18509 as amended by and sections 18504, 18506,
18506a, and 18518 as added by 2004 PA 61, and
by adding section 18515a.
HB 5185
(Rep. Edwards)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending sections 16177, 16348,
18101, and 18501 (MCL 333.16177, 333.16348,
333.18101, and 333.18501), section 16177 as
amended by 2006 PA 481, sections 16348 and
18501 as amended by 2004 PA 61, section 18101
as amended by 2019 PA 96.
Representative Edwards moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 5184. The motion prevailed
6-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brabec, Pohutsky, Edwards, MacDonell, Rheingans, Herzberg.
Nays: Reps. Schmaltz, Hoadley, St. Germaine, Thompson.
Pass: None.
Representative Rheingans moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5185. The motion prevailed
6-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brabec, Pohutsky, Edwards, MacDonell, Rheingans, Herzberg.
Nays: Reps. Schmaltz, Hoadley, St. Germaine, Thompson.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5184 and HB 5185, but did not wish
to speak:
Kelly Gryniewicz, representing the Office of Student Conflict Resolution, University of
Michigan.
April McAboy.
Department of Sociology and Social Work, Calvin University.
Wayne State University.
Aimee Garnett.
Mariam Akhdar, representing the Dearborn Public Schools.
Drake Dawson, representing the CNS Healthcare.
Grace Su Ming Sekulidis, LLMSW.
Catherine Macomber, representing the Saginaw Valley State University.
Hannah Gaspar, representing the Adrian Counseling and Psychiatric Clinic.
ALD Success Network.
Kurtis Brown, representing the Detroit Public Schools.
Salina Soto, representing the Detroit Public Schools.
Jenna Friedman, representing the Wayne State University, Social Work Disability Justice
Coalition.
Alan Bolter, representing the Community Mental Health Association of Michigan.
Dana Paglia-King, representing the National Association of Social Workers Michigan.
Elizabeth Kutter, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5184, but did not wish to speak:
Jennifer Henkel, representing the Association of Social Worker Boards.
Representative Edwards moved to refer HB 5184 to the Committee on Health Policy, with
recommendation as substitute (H-3). The motion prevailed 6-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brabec, Pohutsky, Edwards, MacDonell, Rheingans, Herzberg.
Nays: Reps. Schmaltz, Hoadley, St. Germaine, Thompson.
Pass: None.
Representative Rheingans moved to refer HB 5185 to the Committee on Health Policy, with
recommendation as substitute (H-2). The motion prevailed 6-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Brabec, Pohutsky, Edwards, MacDonell, Rheingans, Herzberg.
Nays: Reps. Schmaltz, Hoadley, St. Germaine, Thompson.
Pass: None.
Representative Herzberg moved to excuse Representative Arbit from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
There being no further business before the subcommittee, Chair Brabec adjourned the
meeting at 9:20 AM.
Representative Felicia Brabec, Chair
Legan Rose
Acting Committee Clerk
lrose@house.mi.gov