MEMBERS:
SEN. KEVIN HERTEL, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. RICK OUTMAN, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AND
EMERGENCY SERVICES
SENATOR VERONICA KLINEFELT
CHAIR
6600 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7670
FAX: (517) 373-5958
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
April 19, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Veterans and Emergency Services was scheduled for Wednesday, April
19, 2023, at 8:30 a.m., in the 1300 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Presentation by the Michigan Commanders Group.
2. Presentation by the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.
3. Reported HB 4199 (Rep. Conlin) with recommendation.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Hertel to adopt the meeting minutes from March 22, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to give the committee a presentation:
Tim Poxson, Legislative Chair, the American Legion Department of Michigan
Jack Devine, Legislative Chair, The Commanders Group
Derek Blumke, Veterans of Foreign Wars Adjutant
Sarah Anderson, Veterans of Foreign Wars Information Officer
Kevin Hensley, Veterans of Foreign Wars Federal Legislative Chair
Beth Gonzales, Disabled American Veterans Legislative Chair
The Chair brought up HB 4199 and invited Rep. Conlin to summarize the bill.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4199:
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Terry Sabo, Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs – Support
Sgt. Major Dave Lewis – Support
Capt. Steven Babbit – Support
Jeff Frisby – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4199:
Tim Poxson, American Legion Legislative Chair – Support
Brian Shoaf, Detroit Regional Chamber – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4199 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Klinefelt, Sen.(s) Hertel, Santana and Outman
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 9:25 a.m.
Date adopted by committee: 05/17/23
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