HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
REP. SARAH LIGHTNER
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, September 10,
2025
10:30 AM
Room 521, House Office
Building
The House Committee on Judiciary was called to order by Chair Lightner.
The Chair requested attendance to be called:
Present: Reps. Lightner, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter, Hope,
Breen and Scott.
Absent: Rep. BeGole.
Excused: Rep. BeGole.
Representative Johnsen moved to adopt the meeting minutes from September 03, 2025. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed with unanimous consent.
Representative Harris moved to excuse Representative BeGole from the meeting. There being no
objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4596 before the committee:
HB 4596
(Rep. Wortz)
A bill to amend 1974 PA 258, entitled "Mental
health code," by amending sections 1034 and
1044 (MCL 330.2034 and 330.2044).
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4596, but did not wish to speak:
Gabrielle Dressner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
Representative Wozniak moved to report out HB 4596 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-0-4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen and Schuette.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Tyrone Carter, Hope, Breen and Scott.
The Chair laid HB 4667 and HB 4668 before the committee:
HB 4667
(Rep. Lightner)
A bill to amend 1931 PA 328, entitled "The
Michigan penal code," (MCL 750.1 to
750.568) by adding section 411y.
HB 4668
(Rep. Lightner)
A bill to require large developers to implement
safety and security protocols to manage critical
risks of foundation models; to prescribe the
duties of large developers; to provide
protection for certain employees; to provide
for the powers and duties of certain state and
local governmental officers and entities; and to
prescribe civil sanctions and provide remedies.
Randy Gross, representing the MI Chamber, testified in opposition to HB 4668.
Chair Lightner testified in support of HB 4667 and HB 4668. Questions and discussions followed.
Felix de Simone, representing Pause AI US, testified in support of HB 4667 and HB 4668.
Questions and discussions followed.
Rob Eleved, representing the Transparency Coalition, testified in support of HB 4667 and HB
4668. Questions and discussions followed.
Tyler Diers, representing TechNet, testified in opposition to HB 4667 and HB 4668. Questions and
discussions followed.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4667, but did not wish to speak:
Gabrielle Dresner, representing the ACLU of Michigan.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4668, but did not wish to speak:
Andrew Doris, representing Secure AI.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 4668, but did not wish to speak:
Patricia Herndon, representing the MI Bankers Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4667 and HB 4668, but did not wish to
speak:
Jacqui Dolce, representing the GR Chamber.
Matt Sowash, representing the American Innovators Network.
Adam Majestic, representing the Detroit Regional Chamber.
Representative Lightner moved to report out HB 4668 with recommendation that the bill be
referred to the Committee on Communications and Technology. The motion prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Lightner, Wozniak, Harris, DeBoyer, Johnsen, Schuette, Tyrone Carter, Hope,
Breen and Scott.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Lightner adjourned the meeting at
11:09 AM.
Representative Sarah Lightner, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov