HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
REP. BRANDT IDEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, December 2, 2020
11:45 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Committee on Ways and Means was called to order by Chair Iden.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Absent: Rep. Bolden.
Excused: Rep. Bolden.
Representative Warren moved to excuse Representative Bolden from the meeting. There
being no objection the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5862 and HB 6456 before the committee:
HB 5862
(Rep. Leutheuser)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 382, entitled "Traxler-
McCauley-Law-Bowman bingo act," by amending
sections 3 and 5d (MCL 432.103 and 432.105d),
section 3 as amended by 2019 PA 159 and section
5d as added by 1999 PA 108.
HB 6456
(Rep. Cole)
A bill to amend 1972 PA 382, entitled "Traxler-
McCauley-Law-Bowman bingo act," by amending
sections 3, 3a, 4, 4a, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 (MCL
432.103, 432.103a, 432.104, 432.104a, 432.112,
432.113, 432.114, 432.115, and 432.116), as
amended by 2019 PA 159.
Representative Cole testified in support of HB 6456.
The following people submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5862 and HB 6456, but
did not wish to speak:
Katharine Hude, representing the Michigan Charitable Gaming Association.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5862 and HB 6456, but did not wish
to speak:
Kyle Rorah, representing Ducks Unlimited.
Amy Trotter, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
The Congressional Sportsmen Foundation.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5862 and HB 6456, but did not
wish to speak:
Mike Gallagher, representing the Michigan Lottery.
Paul Murley, representing the Michigan Gaming Control Board.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5862, but did not wish to speak:
Katharine Hude, representing the Michigan Charitable Gaming Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 6456, but did not wish to speak:
Katharine Hude, representing the Michigan Charitable Gaming Association.
Representative Leutheuser moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5862. The motion
prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Leutheuser moved to report out HB 5862 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-1). The motion prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6456 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4342 before the committee:
HB 4342
(Rep. Paquette)
A bill to amend 1976 PA 451, entitled "The
revised school code," by amending section 1233
(MCL 380.1233), as amended by 2018 PA 418.
Caroline Liethen, representing the Michigan Department of Education, testified with no
position on HB 4342.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4342, but did not wish to speak:
Bill Miller, representing the Michigan Association of Intermediate School
Administrators.
David Cox, representing the Northern Michigan Schools Legislative Association.
Chris Glass, representing the West Michigan Talent Triangle.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents and
Administrators.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4342. The motion prevailed 10-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 4342 with recommendation, as substitute (H-3).
The motion prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 6112, HB 6113, HB 6114, HB 6115 and SB 1015 before the committee:
HB 6112
(Rep. Brenda Carter)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending sections
4151 and 4153 (MCL 500.4151 and 500.4153), as
amended by 2012 PA 544.
HB 6113
(Rep. Berman)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending sections
4155 and 4158 (MCL 500.4155 and 500.4158),
section 4155 as amended by 2012 PA 544 and
section 4158 as added by 2012 PA 544.
HB 6114
(Rep. Markkanen)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending sections
4159 and 4160 (MCL 500.4159 and 500.4160), as
added by 2012 PA 544.
HB 6115
(Rep. Rendon)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending section
4165 (MCL 500.4165), as amended by 2012 PA
544, and by adding section 4166.
SB 1015
(Sen. Theis)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," by amending sections
1103 and 1106 (MCL 500.1103 and 500.1106),
section 1103 as amended and section 1106 as
added by 2018 PA 91.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6112 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Byrd.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 6113. The motion prevailed 9-1-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Byrd.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6113 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Byrd.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6114 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Byrd.
Pass: None.
Representative Leutheuser moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 6115. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Byrd.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6115 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Byrd.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to SB 1015. The motion prevailed 10-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out SB 1015 with recommendation, as substitute (H-3).
The motion prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 6112, HB 6113, HB 6114, HB 6115
and SB 1015, but did not wish to speak:
David Zyble, representing Jackson National Life.
Marcia Hune, representing the Life Insurance Association of Michigan.
Frank Venuto, representing the American Council of Life Insurers.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 1015, but did not wish to speak:
Ken Ross, representing the John Hancock.
The Chair laid HB 5762 before the committee:
HB 5762
(Rep. Griffin)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 5301, 5403, 5405, and 5406
(MCL 324.5301, 324.5403, 324.5405, and
324.5406), section 5301 as amended by 2012 PA
560, sections 5403 and 5405 as added by 1997 PA
26, and section 5406 as amended by 2012 PA 561.
Representative Griffin testified in support of HB 5762.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5762 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5762, but did not wish to speak:
Travis Boeskool, representing the Michigan Department of Great Lakes and
Environment.
The Chair laid SB 991 before the committee:
SB 991
(Sen. Hertel)
A bill to amend 2019 PA 152, entitled "Lawful
internet gaming act," by amending sections 3, 5, 7,
and 11 (MCL 432.303, 432.305, 432.307, and
432.311).
Representative Hertel moved to report out SB 991 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Kahle.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid SB 661, HB 6462, HB 6463 and HB 6464 before the committee:
SB 661
(Sen. Ananich)
A bill to amend 1995 PA 279, entitled "Horse
racing law of 1995," by amending sections 2, 6a,
8, 9, and 22 (MCL 431.302, 431.306a, 431.308,
431.309, and 431.322), sections 2, 8, 9, and 22 as
amended and section 6a as added by 2016 PA 271,
and by adding sections 19d and 20a; and to repeal
acts and parts of acts.
HB 6462
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 2019 PA 149, entitled "Lawful
sports betting act," by amending sections 3 and 15
(MCL 432.403 and 432.415).
HB 6463
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 2019 PA 152, entitled "Lawful
internet gaming act," by amending sections 4 and
14 (MCL 432.304 and 432.314).
HB 6464
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 1996 IL 1, entitled "Michigan
Gaming Control and Revenue Act," by amending
section 12 (MCL 432.212), as amended by 2019
PA 158; and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
The Chair testified in support of the bills.
Beatrice Friedlander testified in opposition to SB 661.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to SB 661. The motion prevailed 10-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-5) to SB 661. The motion prevailed 10-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out SB 661 with recommendation, as substitute (H-5).
The motion prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Hauck.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6462 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Hauck.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6463 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Hauck.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6464 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Hauck.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 661, but did not wish to speak:
Mike Krombeen, representing the Michigan Harness Horseman's Association.
Mike Krombeen, representing Northville Downs.
Nelson Clemons and Dan Shafer, representing AmWest Entertainment.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 661, but did not wish to speak:
Brandon Dillon, representing the Economic Development Leaders of Michigan.
David Murley, representing the Gaming Control Board.
Brendon Ringlever, representing the Nottawaseppi Huron Bay of the Potawatomi.
Aaron Keel, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 661, HB 6462, HB 6463 and HB
6464, but did not wish to speak:
Bryan Newland, representing the Bay Mills Indian Community.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 661, HB 6462, HB 6463 and HB
6464, but did not wish to speak:
John Drake, representing the Greektown Casino.
David Tsai, representing the MGM Grand Detroit.
Bruce Dall, representing the Motor City Casino.
The Chair laid SB 910 before the committee:
SB 910
(Sen. Victory)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 90, entitled "Youth
employment standards act," by amending sections
5 and 6 (MCL 409.105 and 409.106).
Representative Lilly moved to report out SB 910 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 10-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 910, but did not wish to speak:
Chris Glass, representing the West Michigan Talent Triangle.
Peter Spadafore, representing the Michigan Association of Superintendents and State
Administrators.
Jennifer Smith, representing the Michigan Association of School Boards.
Dave Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Bob Kefgen, representing the Michigan Association of Secondary School Principals.
The Chair laid HB 6267 before the committee:
HB 6267
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 1967 PA 281, entitled "Income tax
act of 1967," (MCL 206.1 to 206.713) by adding
sections 279 and 679.
The Chair testified in support of HB 6267.
Representative Hertel testified in support of HB 6267.
Representative Hertel moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 6267. The motion prevailed 10-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 6267 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Warren.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 6267, but did not wish to speak:
Nick Ktonsbein, representing UBCR LLC.
Tom Emmerich, representing Schupan and Sons.
Brett Visner, representing the Michigan Beer and Wine Wholesalers Association.
Lou Grech-Cumbo, representing Great Lakes Wine and Spirits.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 6267, but did not wish to speak:
Aaron Keel, representing the Michigan Department of Treasury.
The Chair laid HB 5423, HB 5422, HB 5424 and HB 5425 before the committee:
HB 5423
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A petition to
initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water,
carbonated natural or mineral water, other
nonalcoholic carbonated drink, and for beer, ale,
or other malt drink of whatever alcoholic content,
and for certain other beverage containers; to
provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits;
to prescribe the powers and duties of certain state
agencies and officials; and to prescribe penalties
and provide remedies," by amending section 3c
(MCL 445.573c), as amended by 1996 PA 384.
HB 5422
(Rep. Lilly)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A petition to
initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water,
carbonated natural or mineral water, other
nonalcoholic carbonated drink, and for beer, ale,
or other malt drink of whatever alcoholic content,
and for certain other beverage containers; to
provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits;
to prescribe the powers and duties of certain state
agencies and officials; and to prescribe penalties
and provide remedies," (MCL 445.571 to 445.576)
by adding section 4c.
HB 5424
(Rep. Chirkun)
A bill to amend 1976 IL 1, entitled "A petition to
initiate legislation to provide for the use of
returnable containers for soft drinks, soda water,
carbonated natural or mineral water, other
nonalcoholic carbonated drink, and for beer, ale,
or other malt drink of whatever alcoholic content,
and for certain other beverage containers; to
provide for the use of unredeemed bottle deposits;
to prescribe the powers and duties of certain state
agencies and officials; and to prescribe penalties
and provide remedies," by amending section 4
(MCL 445.574), as amended by 1998 PA 473.
HB 5425
(Rep. Sneller)
A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code
of criminal procedure," by amending section 14h
of chapter XVII (MCL 777.14h), as amended by
2019 PA 49.
Sean Hammond, representing the Michigan Environmental Council, testified in support of
HB 5423.
Representative Kahle moved to report out HB 5422 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Warren.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-5) to HB 5423. The motion prevailed 10-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5423 with recommendation, as substitute (H-5).
The motion prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Warren.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5424 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Warren.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5425 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 9-1-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Byrd, Hertel.
Nays: Rep. Warren.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5423, HB 5422, HB 5424 and HB
5425, but did not wish to speak:
Derek Bajema, representing the Michigan Soft Drink Association.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Brandt Iden adjourned the
meeting at 12:38 PM.
Representative Brandt Iden, Chair
Taylor Thrush
Committee Clerk
tthrush@house.mi.gov