MEMBERS:
SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
SEN. JEFF IRWIN
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH JOHNSON
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG
CHAIR
4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-7346
FAX: (517) 373-9320
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
March 2, 2023
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday,
March 2, 2023, at 12:00 noon, in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1.
Reported SB 18 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation and immediate effect.
2.
Reported SB 32 (S-2) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation and immediate effect.
3.
Testimony regarding SB 76 (Sen. Hertel).
4.
Testimony regarding SB 77 (Sen. Moss).
5.
Testimony regarding SB 78 (Sen. Cavanagh).
6.
Testimony regarding SB 79 (Sen. Bayer).
7.
Testimony regarding SB 80 (Sen. McDonald Rivet).
8. Testimony regarding SB 81 (Sen. Irwin).
9. Testimony regarding SB 82 (Sen. Chang).
10. Testimony regarding SB 83 (Sen. McMorrow).
11. Testimony regarding SB 84 (Sen. Polehanki).
12. Testimony regarding SB 85 (Sen. Anthony).
13. Testimony regarding SB 86 (Sen. Singh).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:01 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a
quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from February 16, 2023. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair brought up SB's 76-86, and invited Sen.(s) Bayer, Hertel and McMorrow to summarize the bills.
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The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 76-86:
Reina St. Juliana, Citizen – Support
Steve St. Juliana, Citizen – Support
Linda Watson, Citizen – Support
Karen and Michael Kobylik, Citizens – Support
Jo Kovach, MSU Student Body President – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB's 76-86 continued:
Ellie Baden, Citizen – Support
Asha Denny, Citizen – Support
Bridget Huff, Citizen – Support
Marco Diaz-Munoz, Professor, MSU – Support
Mikah Rector-Brooks, March For Our Lives – Support
Dylan Morris, No Future Without Today – Support
Michigan Attorney General, Dana Nessel – Support
Emily Busch, Everytown/Moms Demand Action – Support
Gwen La Croix, Everytown/Moms Demand Action – Support
Nikki Goeser, Crime Prevention Research Center – Oppose
Dr. John Lott, Crime Prevention Research Center – Oppose
Eli Savit, Washtenaw County Prosecutor – Support
David Leyton, Genesee County Prosecutor – Support
Karen McDonald, Oakland County Prosecutor – Support
Jeff Getting, Kalamazoo County Prosecutor – Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record:
Breanna Borg, Citizen – Support
Yousef Rabhi, Michigan Nurses Association – Support SB's 79-86
Rev. Susan Anslow Williams, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Linda K. Levy, National Council of Jewish Women, Michigan – Support
Julia Huttar Bailey, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Carmen Piggins, Episcopal Diocese of Michigan – Support
Dr. Tim Spannaus, End Gun Violence MI – Support SB's 76-83
Rev. Ian Twiss, End Gun Violence MI - Support
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Bishop Prince Singh, Episcopal Dioceses of W. MI – Support
Martha Susan Harlow, Citizen – Support
Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights Michigan – Support SB 79
Rev. Susie Shaefer, End Gun Violence Michigan – Support
Carmi Fin, Moms Demand Action – Support
Amy Zaagman, MI Council for Maternal & Child Health – Support
Martha Couretas, League of Women Voters MI – Support
Edythe Harley, Moms Demand Action – Support
Hannah Birsett, Moms Demand Action – Support SB's 73, 79, 84
Linda Danders, Moms Demand Action – Support – SB's 73, 79, 84
Jane Paterson, Citizen – Support
James Pedersen, Citizen – Support
Kelly Gerlach, Moms Demand Action – Support
Jann Nestell, Citizen – Support
Susan Bayha, Citizen – Support
Laska Creagh, Citizen – Support
Sheryl Kennedy, MI Department of Education – Support
Karey Hamrick, Moms Demand Action – Support
Tom Richmond, Citizen – Support
Marissa Gonzalez, Allegan Dems – Support
Meline Brann, National Association of Social Workers – Support
Christopher Walkons, Citizen – Support SB's 76-84
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
Diana Darland, Moms Demand Action South Oakland – Support SB's 73,79, 84
John Cooper, Safe and Just Michigan – Support
Allen Wolf, Citizen – Support
Carol A. Brun Del Re, Spirit of Peace Church of the Brethren – Support SB 79
Melissa Louwers, Citizen – Support
Julie Wagner, Citizen – Support
Ann Anderson, Citizen – Support
Nancy Nolan, Moms Demand Action – Support
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Paul Brun Del Re, Michigan District Church of Brethren – Support
Katie Cavanaugh, Okemos Public Schools Board of Education Advocacy Committee – Support
Pamela Leidlein, Moms Demand Action – Support
Laura Schwartz, Moms Demand Action – Support
Jeanne Hunton, Moms Demand Action – Support
Sandra Riccardi, Moms Demand Action – Support
Sheri Frank, Citizen – Support
Catherine Tang, Everytown For Gun Safety – Support
Gerald Bettis, Moms Demand Action – Support
Judy Karandjeff, League of Women Voters – Support
Rev Paul LeClair, End Gun Violence MI – Support
Emily M. Rubio, March For Our Lives – Support
Celeste Kanpurwala, Moms Demand Action – Support
Jacinta Henry, March For Our Lives – Support
Heath B Lowry, Michigan Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence – Support SB 76
Catherine Marshall, Moms Demand Action / End Gun Violence MI – Support
Jasman Kaur, Scrubs against the Firearm Epidemic - Support
Rob Mass, Michigan Department of Treasury – Support SB's 81-82
David Coulter, Oakland County Executive – Support
Dr. Diana Nordlund, MI College of Emergency Physicians – Support
Arthur Slabosky, Citizen- Support
Kevin McKinney, MI Osteopathic Association – Support
Andy Neumann, Michigan Education Association – Support
Hallie Levine, Citizen – Support
Jim Hale, MI State United Coon Hunters Association – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Roger Thorman, MI Fox Hunters Association – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Brenden Boudreau, Great Lakes Gun Rights – Oppose
Steve Dulan, MCRGO – Oppose
Bradley Schickinger, MCRGO – Oppose
Mike Thorman, MI Hunting Dog Federation – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Dave Johnson, UP Sportsmen Alliance – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Joe Hudson, UP Bear Houndsmen, - Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
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Keith Shafer, MI Bear Hunters Association – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Christophe Lee, National Shooting Sports Foundation, Inc. – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Scott Jones, NRA – ILA – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Judge Elizabeth Pollard Hines, Self – No Position SB 83
Dr. Brittany Tayler, MI Chapter, American Academy of Pediatrics – Support
Dr. April Zeoli, Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention – No Position listed
Dr. Patrick Carter, Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention – No Position listed
Jace McCarthy, Citizen – Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
Clarissa Mata, March For Our Lives – Support
Kelly Sampson, Brady Campaign – Support
Matt Oppenheim, MEA Protect Our Schools Action Team – Support SB's 76, 79, 80
Jonathan Gold, Gifford Gun Owners for Safety – Support
Deandre Jones, Citizen – Support
Elizabeth Esch, March For Our Lives – Support
Sara Bauer, March For Our Lives – Support
Charlotte Plotzke, March For Our Lives – Support
Cara Erskine, Citizen – Support
Rick Ector, Legally Armed in Detroit – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Amy Trotter, MI United Conservation Club – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Bob Matthews, Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation – Oppose SB 76
Marcy L Jankovich, DC Project – Michigan – Oppose SB 82
Dudley Brown, National Association for Gun Rights – Oppose
Joel E. Fulton, Freedom Firearms Sportsman's Club of Battle Creek – Oppose
Tom Lambert, Michigan Open Carry – Oppose SB's 76-80, 83-86
Amy Trotter, MI United Conservation Club – Support – SB's 81-82
Abby Burnell, McCall Hamilton & concerned MI Medical Students-Support
Abeba Berhane MD, MI Chapter American Academy of Pediatrics - Support
Allsion Ranusch, Self - Support
Amanda Dubey-Zerkaself – Self - Support
Amit Ghose, MD, Ingham Co. Medical Society Bd. Of Directors - Support
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Andrea Wittenborn, Self - Oppose
Beth Baldwin, Self - Support
Beth Berglin, Initiatives & Public Policy Officer, Kalamazoo Community Foundation - Support
Craig Matisoff, MD, Corewell Health/MSU Family Medicine Residency – Support
David Lewis, Self - Support
Diane Thal Gluck, Self - Support
Dr Christine Nefcy, Self - Support
Dr Kathleen Blumer, Self - Support
Dr Kelly Huggett, Self - Support
Dr. Alexandra Gamber, Self - Support
Dr. Alyssa Warburton-Silva, Self - Support
Dr. Andrew Gunderson, Self - Support
Dr. Angela Thompson-Busch MSU College of Human Medicine - Support
Dr. Anne Garcia, Self - Support
Dr. April Zeoli, Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention - University of MI – Support SB's 79, 83
Dr. Brian Wilder, Self - Support SB's 73, 79, 84
Dr. Candace Smith-King, Self – No Position - SB 83
Dr. Carol E Fletcher, Self - Support
Dr. Danelle Stabel, Self - Support
Dr. David A Cooke, Self - Support
Dr. David Walsworth, Self - Support
Dr. Elizabeth Jones, Self - Support
Dr. Eric Skye, Self - Oppose
Dr. Gregory Tiongson, Self - Support
Dr. Holly Ross, Self - Support
Dr. James Mitchiner, Self - Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
Dr. James Peabody, Self - Support
Dr. James Reinhart, University of Michigan Congenital Heart Center - Support
Dr. Jane Chargot, Self - Support
Dr. Jeanne Seyfried, Self - Support
Dr. Jennifer Stevenson, Self - Support
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Dr. Joel Greenberg, Self - Support
Dr. John Hopper MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Dr. Jonathan Gabison, U of M Department of Family Medicine - Support
Dr. Joseph Fakhoury, Bronson Pediatric Hospital - Support
Dr. Josh Meyerson, Self - Support
Dr. Julia Hammoud, Self - Support
Dr. Julian Wan, Self - Support
Dr. Kathleen Blumer, Self - Support
Dr. Kelly Cha, Self - Support
Dr. Kerry Mychaliska, Oakland Univ Beaumont School of Medicine - Support
Dr. Kristie Khatibi, Self - Support
Dr. Kurt Schumacher, Self - Support
Dr. Lauren Azevedo, Self - Support
Dr. Maham Khan, Self - Support
Dr. Matthew Allswede, Self - Support
Dr. Michael Fiore, Self – Support
Dr. Michele Carney, Self - Support
Dr. Moiz Saeed, Self – Support
Dr. Omkar Karthikeyan, Self - Support
Dr. Pamela Coffey, Self - Support
Dr. Rachel Rosenbaum, Michigan State University Neurologist - Support
Dr. Rand Sabanci, Self - Support
Dr. Sara Cramton, Alliance Obstetrics & Gynecology - Support
Dr. Sarah Allexan, U of M Canton Health Center - Support
Dr. Sarah Yentz, Self - Support
Dr. Sebastian Schoneich, Self - Support
Dr. Sonya Lewis, Physicians for the Prevention of Gun Violence – Support
Dr. Stephanie Clemens, Self - Support
Dr. Tracey Taylor, Oakland University William Beaumont School of Medicine – Support
Dr. Wayne Cornblath, Self - Support
Dr. Yolanda Helfrich, Self - Support
Elaine du Plessis MD, Self - Support
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Eric McGrath, MD, Wayne State University School of Medicine - Support
Eric Walford, Northville Health Center - Support
Erica Dziedzic, Moms Demand Action - Support
Evelyn Eccles, MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Iftiker Ahmad, MD, Ingham Co. Medical Society Bd. Of Directors - Support
James Gallant, Self - Support
James Mitchiner MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council, Support
Jamie Bisson, Self - Support
Jamie Hochman Herz, Self - Support
Jan T. Liu, Self - Support
Jeffrey Callard PA, CSt Joseph Mercy Hospital - Support
Jenn Garland, Michigan PTA - Support
The following testimony cards regarding SB's 76-86 were submitted for the record continued:
Jennifer Ruegsegger, Self - Support
Jerry Walden MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Joseph Nodim MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Kate Stevenson, Open Hand Counseling - Support
Katherine Sochacki Duckworth, Self - Support
Kathleen Longo MD MPH, Self - Support
Kenneth Elmassian, DO, Ingham Co. Medical Society Bd. Of Directors - Support
Larry Junck MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Lee Morris, Self - Support
Leslee Cassel-Bonilla, Self - Support
Lisa Geller, Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions – Support
Lisa Purvis, Self - Support
Lynna Kaucheck, Progress Michigan & others - Support
Martha Gray, MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Martha Kershaw MD, Self - Support
Martha Weintraub, Self - Support
Mary Miller, Self - Support
Michael Kamrin, Self - Support
Narasimha Gundarmraj, MD Ingham Co. Medical Society Bd. Of Directors - Support
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Phyllis Herzig, Self - Support
Rebecca Daniel MD, Washtenaw Co. Medical Society Ex. Council - Support
Rick and Martha Omilian, Self -Support
Rochelle Igrisan, Self - Support
Ronald Horowitz, MD, Ingham Co. Medical Society Bd. Of Directors - Support
Scott Boehm & others, MSU Dept. of Romance & Classical Studies - Support
Shannon Taylor, Self - Support
Stacey Shubeck MD, Corewell Health - Support
Timothy Carey, Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions - Support
Tom Berkley, Self - Support
Ved Gossain, MD, Ingham Co. Medical Society Bd. Of Directors – Support
Wayne Smith, Self - Support
At 2:58 p.m., Sen. Irwin left the meeting.
The Chair brought up SB 18.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 18 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 18. Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
The Chair brought up the (S-2) version of SB 32.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 32. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Santana, Runestad and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 32 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Santana, and Johnson
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair moved to recommend immediate effect for SB 32 (S-2). Without objection, immediate effect was
recommended.
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There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 3:02 p.m.
Date adopted by committee: 03/09/2023
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