MEMBERS:
SEN. JOHN BIZON, M.D., MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. KIMBERLY A. LASATA
SEN. MICHAEL D. MACDONALD
SEN. LANA THEIS
SEN. WINNIE BRINKS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. CURTIS HERTEL, JR.
SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY AND
HUMAN SERVICES
SENATOR CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
CHAIR
4500 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-1725
FAX: (517) 373-0741
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2019
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Health Policy and Human Services was scheduled for Wednesday,
October 16, 2019, at 2:00 p.m., in the 1100 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 4325 (Rep. Miller) with recommendation and immediate effect.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:01 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, Johnson, LaSata, MacDonald, Theis,
Brinks, Hertel, Santana, and Wojno, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Bizon to adopt the meeting minutes from October 10, 2019. Without
objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited Rep. Miller to summarize HB 4325.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 4325:
Dr. Sara Sue Schaeffer and Dr. Irene Ametrano, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association –
Support
Tim Greimel, AFSCME Council 25 – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4325:
Justin Fisher, Michigan Psychiatric Society – Oppose
Due to time constraints, the following cards were not read in regarding HB 4325:
Marina Wyrzykowski, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services – Support
Nicholas Erber-LaPierre, Profession of Counseling – Support
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Mark Docherty, Michigan Professional Fire Fighters Union – Support
David Newman, Michigan Primary Care Association – Support
Renee Edmonson, School-Community Health Alliance of Michigan – Support
Mark Sutton, American Legion Department of Michigan – Support
Autumn Gillard, Trinity Health – Support
Sam Champagne, Henry Ford Health System – Support
Paige Fults, Michigan Health and Hospital Association – Support
John McNamara, McLaren Health Care – Support
Gerald Papazian, LPC's Northern Michigan – Support
Brenda Leiniger, LLPC – Support
Todd Leibert, Oakland University Department of Counseling – Support
Lyanna Leibert, LPC – Support
Ricaard Liesice, Alright Counsling PLLC – Support
Elizabeth Peterson, LLPC's – Support
Denise Weber, LPC's – Support
Clerlada Eure-Harris, Counselors – LPC's – Support
Dawn Streeter, LLPC's – Support
Greg Dudzinski, LPC's – Support
Amber Somerville, Michigan Citizens – Support
Monica Michael, Private Practice – Support
Wendy Croll, Access – Support
Sarah Baker, Vita Counseling Services – Support
Carolynn Doughesty, Citizen – Support
Kathryn Iferse, Counselors, LPC's, WCA – Support
Amy Willis, Citizen – Support
Napoleon Harrington, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Brad and Christine Przystas, Citizens – Support
Carol Berger, LPC's – Support
Meshia Schultz, LPC – Support
Frederick Hagon, Citizen - Support
Amelia Hasenohl, Citizen – Support
Erika VanPoppel, LPC – Support
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Leah Gwinner, LPC's – Support
Keila Kilgore, Art of Creative Dimensions Inc. – Support
Gayle Seely Gambill, Gayle Seely Counseling – Support
Caroline Ray, Citizen – Support
Amelia Hasenohrl, LPC's – Support
Barbara Blundo, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
James Blundo, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Jeanine Madsen, Peak Therapy – Support
Allison Woodfield, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Samantha Darrow, Citizen – Support
Marie McCallan, Citizen – Support
Stephanie Kastely, Wayne State University Suicide Prevention Initiative – Support
Jeff Zapor, Citizen – Support
Thomas Grden, Citizen – Support
Cindy Goldman, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Dr. Donald Amidon, Michigan Mental Health Counselors Association – Support
Daniel Cruikshanks, Aquinas College – Support
Stephanie Burns, Western Michigan University – Support
Judy Williams, Michigan School Counselor Association – Support
Alegeria Wilson, National Association of Social Workers – Support
Tianna Hoppe-Rooney, LPC's – Support
Karen Bailey, LPC's – Support
Sharon Rudy, LPC's – Support
Eileen Craig, LPC's – Support
Halene Waytes, LPC's – Support
Tara Freni, LPC's – Support
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report HB 4325 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair VanderWall, Sen.(s) Bizon, Johnson, LaSata, MacDonald, Theis, Brinks, Hertel, Santana,
and Wojno
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
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The Chair made a motion to recommend immediate effect for HB 4325. Without objection, immediate effect
was recommended.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 2:21 p.m.
Date Adopted by Committee: October 17, 2019
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