HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
REP. BRONNA KAHLE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, March 10,
2021
2:03
PM
Room 352, House Appropriations, State Capitol
Building
The House Committee on Health Policy was called to order by Chair Kahle.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Kahle, Meerman, Whiteford, Alexander, Allor, Hauck, Filler, Mueller,
Beeler, Fink, Roth, Tisdel, Witwer, Clemente, Pohutsky, Stone, Whitsett, Neeley, Morse.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Meerman moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 9, 2021. There
being no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 4351 before the committee:
HB 4351
(Rep. Whitsett)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 218, entitled "Third party
administrator act," by amending the title and
section 2 (MCL 550.902) and by adding sections
26 and 27.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4351, but did not wish to speak:
Paige Fults, representing the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
Sam Champagne, representing Henry Ford Health System.
Sean Gehle and Autumn Gillard, representing Trinity Health Michigan.
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
Andy Johnston, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber.
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Representative Whitsett moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 4351. The motion prevailed
19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Kahle, Meerman, Whiteford, Alexander, Allor, Hauck, Filler, Mueller,
Beeler, Fink, Roth, Tisdel, Witwer, Clemente, Pohutsky, Stone, Whitsett, Neeley, Morse.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Clemente moved to report out HB 4351 with recommendation, as substitute
(H-3). The motion prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Kahle, Meerman, Whiteford, Alexander, Allor, Hauck, Filler, Mueller,
Beeler, Fink, Roth, Tisdel, Witwer, Clemente, Pohutsky, Stone, Whitsett, Neeley, Morse.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4352 before the committee:
HB 4352
(Rep. Allor)
A bill to amend 1978 PA 368, entitled "Public
health code," by amending section 17757 (MCL
333.17757), as amended by 2016 PA 383, and by
adding section 17757b.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4352, but did not wish to speak:
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
Andy Johnston, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber.
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Representative Allor moved to report out HB 4352 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 19-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Kahle, Meerman, Whiteford, Alexander, Allor, Hauck, Filler, Mueller,
Beeler, Fink, Roth, Tisdel, Witwer, Clemente, Pohutsky, Stone, Whitsett, Neeley, Morse.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 4350 before the committee:
HB 4350
(Rep. Young)
A bill to amend 1984 PA 323, entitled "The health
care false claim act," by amending sections 2 and
4a (MCL 752.1002 and 752.1004a), section 4a as
amended by 2016 PA 80.
Representative Young, testified in support of HB 4350. Questions and discussion followed.
Karen Stiffler, representing the Michigan All Copays Coalition, testified in opposition to HB
4350. Questions and discussion followed.
Gabe Basso and Tim Antonelli, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, testified in
opposition to HB 4350. Questions and discussion followed.
Karen Jonas, representing the Michigan Association of Health Plans, testified in opposition to
HB 4350. Questions and discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4350, but did not wish to speak:
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4350, but did not wish to speak:
Nate Filler, representing Boehringer Ingelheim.
The Chair laid HB 4353 before the committee:
HB 4353
(Rep. Kahle)
A bill to amend 1956 PA 218, entitled "The
insurance code of 1956," (MCL 500.100 to
500.8302) by adding section 3406v.
Gabe Basso and Tim Antonelli, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, testified in
opposition to HB 4353.
Jamie Lyn Moy, representing the herself, testified in support of HB 4353. Questions and
discussion followed.
Shelley Jeltema, representing the herself, testified in support of HB 4353.
At 3:27 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 5:06 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Chair Kahle retruned to HB 4353.
Julia Boles, representing the National Psoriasis Foundation, testified in support of HB 4353.
Questions and discussion followed.
Karen Jonas, representing the Michigan Association of Health Plans, testified in opposition to
HB 4353. Questions and discussion followed.
Steven Schultz, representing the Arthritis Foundation, testified in support of HB 4353.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4353, but did not wish to speak:
Zoe Aldrich, representing the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation.
Cynthia Bigley, PhD, representing Otsuka Pharmaceutical.
Emily Schaller, representing the Rock CF Foundation.
Brianna Romines, representing the Epilepsy Foundation of Michigan.
Leslie Baldwin, representing herself.
Kelly Barta, representing the Allergy and Asthma Network.
Carl Schmidt, representing the HIV and Hepatitis Policy Institute.
Kathleen Arnsten, representing the Lupus and Allied Diseases Association and the
Michigan All CoPays Count Coalition.
Holly Pendell, representing the National MS Society.
Alice Beltz, representing the Michigan Chapter of the American College of Cardiology.
Peter Fotos, representing PhRMA.
Dr. Anas Al-Janadi, representing the Michigan Society of Hematology and Oncology.
Gary Dougherty, representing the American Diabetes Association.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4353, but did not wish to speak:
David Worthams, representing the Michigan Manufacturers Association.
Larry Lewis, representing CVS/Aetna.
Mary Haffenbredl, representing the America's Health Insurance Plans.
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
Wendy Block, representing the Michigan Chamber.
Micah Babcock, representing the Small Business Association of Michigan.
The Chair laid HB 4348 before the committee:
HB 4348
(Rep. Calley)
A bill to license and regulate pharmacy benefit
managers; to require reporting of certain data; to
provide for the powers and duties of certain state
governmental officers and entities; to provide
remedies; to require the promulgation of rules; and
to require and to provide sanctions for violation of
this act.
Representative Calley, testified in support of HB 4348. Questions and discussion followed.
Grant Brown, pharmacist, representing the himself, testified in support of HB 4348.
Questions and discussion followed.
Sam Hallemeier, representing the Pharmaceutical Care Management Association, testified in
opposition to HB 4348. Questions and discussion followed.
Wendy Block, representing the Michigan Chamber, testified in opposition to HB 4348.
Heather Christenson, representing the Michigan Pharmacists Association, testified in support
of HB 4348. Questions and discussion followed.
Gabe Basso and Tim Antonelli, representing Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, testified in
opposition to HB 4348. Questions and discussion followed.
Miguel Rodriguez, representing The American Pharmacies, testified in support of HB 4348.
Questions and discussion followed.
John Gross, pharmacist, representing himself, testified in support of HB 4348. Questions and
discussion followed.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 4348, but did not wish to speak:
Amanda Fisher, representing NFIB.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4348, but did not wish to speak:
Larry Lewis, representing CVS/Aetna.
Kim Maisch, representing Cigna.
Bret Jackson, representing the Economic Alliance for Michigan.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Kahle adjourned the meeting at
7:19 PM.
Representative Bronna Kahle, Chair
Melissa Sweet
Committee Clerk
msweet@house.mi.gov