HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, TOURISM AND OUTDOOR
RECREATION
REP. LAURIE POHUTSKY
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, December 5, 2024
10:30 AM
Room 327, House Office Building
The House Committee on Natural Resources, Environment, Tourism and Outdoor Recreation
was called to order by Chair Pohutsky.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong, Martin, Prestin.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Representative Xiong moved to adopt the meeting minutes from June 13, 2024. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5205 and SB 663 before the committee:
HB 5205
(Rep. Dievendorf)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 3103 (MCL 324.3103), as
amended by 2005 PA 33.
SB 663
(Sen. Shink)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 3103 (MCL 324.3103), as
amended by 2005 PA 33.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5205, but did not wish to speak:
Brian Vigue, representing the Audubon Great Lakes.
David Lossing, representing the Huron River Watershed Council.
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
Sydney Hart and Phil Argiroff, representing the Michigan Department of Environment,
Great Lakes, and Energy.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5205, but did not wish to speak:
John LaMachia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Greg Bird, representing the Michigan Vegetable Council.
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan.
Shawn Cecil, representing the Michigan Realtors.
Ed Noyola, representing the County Roads Association of Michigan.
Jacqui Dolce, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber of Commerce.
Michael Alaimo, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
Kelly Turner, representing the Potato Growers of Michigan.
Jason Hayes, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Chamber of Commerce.
Mike Compagnoni, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Joanne Wisely, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Mike Witkowski, representing the Michigan Manufactures Association.
Tim Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
Stacy Hissong, representing the Michigan Association of County Drain Commissioners.
Ben Tirrell, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
The following people submitted a card in support of SB 663, but did not wish to speak:
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan league of Conservation Voters.
Marta Johnson, representing the Climate Cabinet.
Tom Zimnicki, representing the Alliance for the Great Lakes.
Megan Tinsley, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Tim Minotas, representing the Sierra Club Michigan Chapter.
Melissa DeSimone, representing the Michigan Lakes & Streams Association.
David Lossing, representing the Huron River Watershed Council.
Sydney Hart and Phil Argiroff, representing the Michigan Department of Environment,
Great Lakes, and Energy.
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to SB 663, but did not wish to speak:
John LaMachia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Greg Bird, representing the Michigan Vegetable Council.
Dawn Crandall, representing the Home Builders Association of Michigan.
Ed Noyola, representing the County Roads Association of Michigan.
Jacqui Dolce, representing the Grand Rapids Chamber of Commerce.
Michael Alaimo, representing the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
Ben Tirrell, representing the Michigan Farm Bureau.
Stacy Hissong, representing the Michigan Association of County Drain Commissioners.
Tim Langholz, representing the National Federation of Independent Business.
Mike Witkowski, representing the Michigan Manufactures Association.
Joanne Wisley, representing the Michigan Townships Association.
Mike Compagnoni, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Brian Shoaf, representing the Detroit Chamber of Commerce.
Representative Hill moved to report out HB 5205 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Nays: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Pass: None.
Representative McFall moved to report out SB 663 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Nays: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Pass: None.
At 10:38 AM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 10:38 AM, Majority Vice Chair Hill called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 6023 before the committee:
HB 6023
(Rep. Pohutsky)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 21502, 21503, 21506a, 21506b,
21510, 21510a, 21510d, 21515, 21516, 21518,
21519, 21519a, 21521, 21524, and 21548 (MCL
324.21502, 324.21503, 324.21506a, 324.21506b,
324.21510, 324.21510a, 324.21510d, 324.21515,
324.21516, 324.21518, 324.21519, 324.21519a,
324.21521, 324.21524, and 324.21548), sections
21502, 21503, 21510, 21510a, 21515, 21516, and
21521 as amended by 2016 PA 380, sections
21506a and 21510d as amended and section
21519a as added by 2017 PA 134, and section
21506b as added and sections 21518, 21519,
21524, and 21548 as amended by 2014 PA 416;
and to repeal acts and parts of acts.
Representative Pohutsky testified in support of HB 6023.
Sydney Hart and Bob Reisner, representing the Michigan Department of Environment, Great
Lakes, and Energy, testified in support of HB 6023.
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 6023, but did not wish to speak:
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
At 10:43 AM, Majority Vice Chair Hill laid the committee at ease.
At 10:44 AM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
Representative Arbit moved to report out HB 6023 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong, Martin, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The Chair laid HB 5428, HB 5873 and HB 6219 before the committee:
HB 5428
(Rep. Brixie)
A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan
vehicle code," by amending section 805 (MCL
257.805), as amended by 2021 PA 96.
HB 5873
(Rep. Mentzer)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending section 2045 (MCL 324.2045), as
amended by 2013 PA 81.
HB 6219
(Rep. Mentzer)
A bill to amend 1994 PA 451, entitled "Natural
resources and environmental protection act," by
amending sections 74116 and 78119 (MCL
324.74116 and 324.78119), section 74116 as
amended by 2016 PA 1 and section 78119 as
amended by 2013 PA 81.
Representative Mentzer testified in support of HBs 5428, 5873 and 6219.
Scott Bowen and Chris Semrinec, representing the Michigan Department of Natural
Resources, testified in support of HBs 5428, 5873 and 6219.
Nichole Fisher, representing mParks, and Kyle Langlois, representing Sterling Heights Parks
& Recreation, gave a presentation in support of HBs 5482, 5873 and 6219.
Representative Brixie testified in support of HB 5482.
The following person submitted a card with a neutral position on HB 5428, but did not wish
to speak:
Melissa Horste, representing the Michigan Department of State.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5428, but did not wish to speak:
Justin Tomei, representing the Michigan United Conservation Clubs.
Erica Briggs, representing the Rails and Trails Conservancy.
David Lossing, representing the Huron River Watershed Council.
Andrea LaFontaine, representing the Michigan Trails and Greenways Alliance.
Scott Ellis, representing the Michigan Licensed Beverage Association.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Danielle Basgall, representing The Nature Conservancy.
John LaMachia, representing the Michigan Municipal Leage.
Nicki Polan, representing the Michigan Boating Industries Association.
Emily Smith, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Deena Bosworth, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
Mike Compagnoni, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
The following person submitted a card in opposition to HB 5428, but did not wish to speak:
James Hohman, representing the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5873, but did not wish to speak:
Andrea LaFontaine, representing the Michigan Trails and Greenways Alliance.
Scott Ellis, representing the Michigan Licensed Beverage Association.
David Lossing, representing the Huron River Watershed Council.
Mike Compagnoni, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
Deena Bosworth, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Emily Smith, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Nicki Polan, representing the Michigan Boating Industries Association.
John LaMachia, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Danielle Basgall, representing The Nature Conservancy.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan Leage of Conservation Voters.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 6219, but did not wish to speak:
Erica Briggs, representing the Rails and Trails Conservancy.
Andrea LaFontaine, representing the Michigan Trails and Greenways Alliance.
Scott Ellis, representing the Michigan Licensed Beverages Association.
Nick Occhipinti, representing the Michigan League of Conservation Voters.
Emily Smith, representing the Michigan Environmental Council.
Deena Bosworth, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Liz Kirkwood, representing For Love of Water.
Mike Compagnoni, representing the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Representative Paiz moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5428. The motion prevailed 8-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong, Martin, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Martin offered the following amendment to HB 5428 (H-1):
1. Amend page 5, following line 16, by inserting:
"Enacting section 1. This amendatory act does not take effect unless all of the following bills
of the 102nd Legislature are enacted into law:
(a) House Bill No. 5873.
(b) House Bill No. 6219.".
Representative Martin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5428 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 2-6-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Nays: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Pass: None.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 5428 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 6-2-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Nays: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Pass: None.
Representative Hill moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5873. The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong, Martin, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Martin offered the following amendment to HB 5873 (H-1):
1. Amend page 6, following line 28, by inserting:
"Enacting section 1. This amendatory act does not take effect unless all of the following bills
of the 102nd Legislature are enacted into law:
(a) House Bill No. 5428.
(b) House Bill No. 6219.".
Representative Martin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 5873 (H-1). The motion did not
prevail 2-6-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Nays: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Pass: None.
Representative Xiong moved to report out HB 5873 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
1). The motion prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong, Martin, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Martin offered the following amendment to HB 6219:
1. Amend page 6, following line 1, by inserting:
"Enacting section 1. This amendatory act does not take effect unless all of the following bills
of the 102nd Legislature are enacted into law:
(a) House Bill No. 5428.
(b) House Bill No. 5873.".
Representative Martin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 6219. The motion did not
prevail 2-6-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Nays: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Pass: None.
Representative Martin offered the following amendment to HB 6219:
1. Amend page 3, following line 24, by inserting:
"(5) Subject to appropriations, the department of state shall develop and implement a
program to inform honorably discharged veterans and actively serving military
members of the exemptions under subsection (4)(f) and section 78119(4)(e).".
Representative Martin moved to adopt the amendment to HB 6219. The motion did not
prevail 2-6-0:
UNFAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Martin, Prestin.
Nays: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong.
Pass: None.
Representative McFall moved to report out HB 6219 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 8-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Pohutsky, Hill, Arbit, McFall, Paiz, Xiong, Martin, Prestin.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Chair Pohutsky adjourned the meeting
at 11:10 AM.
Representative Laurie Pohutsky, Chair
Legan Rose
Committee Clerk
LRose@house.mi.gov