HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
REP. BRANDT IDEN
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, February 19, 2020
10:30 AM
Room 519, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Ways and Means was called to order by Chair Iden.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd,
Hertel, Bolden.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Warren moved to adopt the meeting minutes from February 11, 2020. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
The Chair laid HB 5341, HB 5342, HB 5343, HB 5344, HB 5345, HB 5346, HB 5347, HB 5348,
HB 5349, HB 5350, HB 5351, HB 5352, HB 5353, HB 5354, HB 5355 and HB 5400 before the
committee:
HB 5341
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 407 (MCL 436.1407).
HB 5342
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 203 (MCL 436.1203), as amended by 2016 PA 520.
HB 5343
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," (MCL 436.1101 to
436.2303) by adding section 203a.
HB 5344
(Rep. Wendzel) A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 609c (MCL 436.1609c), as added by 2017 PA 130.
HB 5345
(Rep. Wentworth)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 409 (MCL 436.1409), as amended by 2014 PA 48.
HB 5346
(Rep. Wentworth)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 301 (MCL 436.1301), as amended by 2014 PA 49.
HB 5347
(Rep. Garza)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 526 (MCL 436.1526), as added by 2008 PA 258.
HB 5348
(Rep. Garza)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 502 (MCL 436.1502), as added by 2017 PA 129.
HB 5349
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 401 (MCL 436.1401).
HB 5350
(Rep. Hall)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 307 (MCL 436.1307), as amended by 2018 PA 406.
HB 5351
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 111 (MCL 436.1111), as amended by 2018 PA 415.
HB 5352
(Rep. Filler)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," (MCL 436.1101 to
436.2303) by adding section 602.
HB 5353
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 537 (MCL 436.1537), as amended by 2018 PA 560.
HB 5354
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 405 (MCL 436.1405), as amended by 2014 PA 353.
HB 5355
(Rep. Cambensy)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 609a (MCL 436.1609a), as added by 2016 PA 81.
HB 5400
(Rep. Garza)
A bill to amend 1998 PA 58, entitled
"Michigan liquor control code of 1998," by amending
section 109 (MCL 436.1109), as amended by 2018 PA 409.
Representative Wendzel testified in support of HB 5341, HB 5342, HB 5343, HB 5344, HB
5345, HB 5346, HB 5347, HB 5348, HB 5349, HB 5350, HB 5351, HB 5352, HB 5353, HB
5354, HB 5355 and HB 5400.
Scott Newman-Bale, representing Michigan Brewers Guild, testified in support of HB 5341, HB
5342, HB 5343, HB 5344, HB 5345, HB 5346, HB 5347, HB 5348, HB 5349, HB 5350, HB
5351, HB 5352, HB 5353, HB 5354, HB 5355 and HB 5400.
Brett Visner, representing Michigan Beer and Wine Wholesalers Association, testified in support
of HB 5341, HB 5342, HB 5343, HB 5344, HB 5345, HB 5346, HB 5347, HB 5348, HB 5349,
HB 5350, HB 5351, HB 5352, HB 5353, HB 5354, HB 5355 and HB 5400.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5341. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5341 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Warren moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5342. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5342 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hauck moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5343. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5343 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Leutheuser moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5344. The motion prevailed
11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5344 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Griffin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5345. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kahle moved to report out HB 5345 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5346. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5346 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hauck moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5347. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hertel moved to report out HB 5347 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Griffin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5348. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Byrd moved to report out HB 5348 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Meerman moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5349. The motion prevailed 11-
0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5349 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5350. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Kahle moved to report out HB 5350 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Griffin moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5351. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to report out HB 5351 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5352. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Meerman moved to report out HB 5352 with recommendation, as substitute (H-
2). The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Warren moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5353. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Byrd moved to report out HB 5353 with recommendation, as substitute (H-2).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Hertel moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5354. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Bolden moved to report out HB 5354 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Warren moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 5355. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Bolden moved to report out HB 5355 with recommendation, as substitute (H-1).
The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Warren moved to report out HB 5400 with recommendation. The motion
prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5343, but did not wish to speak:
John Bogucki, representing the Round Barn Brewery and Public House.
The Chair laid HB 5097 and HB 5253 before the committee:
HB 5097
(Rep. Iden)
A bill to amend 2005 PA 244, entitled
"Deferred presentment service transactions act," by
amending the title and sections 2, 11, 13, 15, 17, 22, 31, 32,
33, 34, 35, 36, 45, and 53 (MCL 487.2122, 487.2131,
487.2133, 487.2135, 487.2137, 487.2142, 487.2151,
487.2152, 487.2153, 487.2154, 487.2155, 487.2156,
487.2165, and 487.2173), section 2 as amended by 2016 PA
140 and section 35 as amended by 2016 PA 141, and by
adding sections 31a and 32a.
HB 5253
(Rep. Gay-Dagnogo)
A bill to amend 2005 PA 244,
entitled "Deferred presentment service transactions act," by
amending section 51 (MCL 487.2171).
Representative Gay-Dagnogo testified in support of HB 5253.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-3) to HB 5097. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Lilly moved to adopt substitute (H-4) to HB 5097. The motion prevailed 11-0-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
Representative Warren moved to adopt substitute (H-2) to HB 5253. The motion prevailed 11-0-
0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. Iden, Lilly, Leutheuser, Griffin, Hauck, Kahle, Meerman, Warren, Byrd, Hertel,
Bolden.
Nays: None.
Pass: None.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5253, but did not wish to speak:
Ron Hicks, representing Advance America.
Michigan Credit Union League.
The following people submitted a card in support of HB 5097, but did not wish to speak:
Ron Hicks, representing Advance America.
John Rabenold, representing Axcess Financial.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 5097, but did not wish to speak:
Kelly Bidelman, representing the Center for Civil Justice.
Tom Hickson, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference.
Dave Blaszkiewicz, representing Invest Detroit.
Sandra Pearson, representing the Habitat For Humanity of Michigan.
Nancy Lindman, representing the United Way of Michigan.
Rebecca O'Connell, representing Lake Trust Credit Union.
Angela Clock, representing the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services.
Peter Ruark, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Michigan Credit Union League.
Jessica AcMoody, representing the Community Economic Development Association of
Michigan.
Lorray Brown, representing the Michigan Poverty Law Program.
Galyn Barnum, representing Housing Resources Inc..
Pat Taylor, representing the Kalamazoo Eastside Neighborhood Association.
Stephanie Hoffman, representing Open Doors Kalamazoo.
Sonja Dean, representing the Local Initiatives Support Coalition of Kalamazoo.
Dennis West, representing Northern Initiatives.
Ruth Johnson, representing the Community Development Advocates of Detroit.
Michelle LaJoie, representing the Community Action Alger-Marquette.
Dennis Sturtevant, representing the Dwelling Place of Grand Rapids.
Jeremy DeRoo, representing LINC Up.
Dana Christian, representing the New Hope Community Development.
Charlotte Smith, representing the Local Initiatives Support Coalition of Flint.
Kwaku Osei, representing the Cooperative Capital.
Gabriella Barthlow, representing the Alpha Advertising Group.
Orletta Caldwell, representing the Metropolitan Christian Council of Detroit and Windsor.
Dallas Leneur, representing Project Green.
Hank Hubbard, representing One Detroit Credit Union.
Greg Hull, representing the Genesee County Habitat for Humanity.
Bridget Staffileno, representing the Jolt Credit Union and Catholic Federal Credit Union.
Bridget Healy, representing the United Way of Washtenaw County.
Jane MacKenzie, representing Northern Homes.
Suzanne Van Dam, representing Circles and Friends in Deed.
Thomas Edmiston, representing Cinnaire.
Richard Cannon, representing the Hearts for Homes Inc. and Church of the Messiah Housing
Corporation.
Monica Schuyler, representing the Pennies from Heaven Foundation.
Martin Carter, representing Astera Credit Union.
Joel Ruiter, representing Home Repair Services.
Joan Nelson, representing the Allen Neighborhood Center.
Helen Lehman, representing the New Development Corporation.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Brandt Iden adjourned the meeting at
11:06 AM.
Representative Brandt Iden, Chair
Edward Sleeper
Committee Clerk
esleeper@house.mi.gov