HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON MILITARY, VETERANS AND HOMELAND SECURITY
REP. BEAU M LAFAVE
CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, April 9, 2019
12:00 PM
Room 307, House Office Building
The House Standing Committee on Military, Veterans and Homeland Security was called to
order by Chairman LaFave.
The Chair requested attendance be called:
Present: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen, Jones, Chirkun, T Carter,
Manoogian.
Absent/Excused: None.
Representative Marino moved to adopt the meeting minutes from March 12, 2019. There being
no objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent.
At 12:01 PM, the Chair laid the committee at ease.
At 12:02 PM, the Chair called the committee back to order.
The Chair laid HB 4083 and HB 4090 before the committee:
HB 4083
(Rep. Hornberger)
A bill to prohibit local units of
government from enacting or enforcing any law, ordinance,
policy, or rule that limits local officials, officers, or
employees from communicating or cooperating with
appropriate federal officials concerning the immigration
status of individuals; to prescribe the powers and duties of
certain state and local officers, officials, and employees; and
to prescribe penalties and remedies.
HB 4090
(Rep. LaFave)
A bill to prohibit counties from enacting or
enforcing any law, ordinance, policy, or rule that limits local
officials, officers, or employees from communicating or
cooperating with appropriate federal officials concerning the
immigration status of individuals; to prescribe the powers
and duties of certain state and local officers, officials, and
employees; and to prescribe penalties and remedies.
Representative Hornberger introduced her bill. Questions and discussion followed.
Chair LaFave introduced his bill.
Kimberly Buddin, representing the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, testified in
opposition of HB 4083 and HB 4090.
Chief Deputy Jason Ferguson, Sheriff of Ingham County, testified in opposition of HB 4083 and
HB 4090.
Paul Stankewitz, representing the Michigan Catholic Conference, testified with a neutral position
on HB 4083 and HB 4090.
Maria Salazar, representing Michigan United, testified in opposition to HB 4083 and HB 4090.
Questions and discussion followed.
Randy Block, representing the Michigan Unitarian Universalists Social Justice Network, testified
in opposition to HB 4083 and HB 4090.
Brother Thomas Zerafa, representing the Michigan Coalition for Human Rights, testified in
opposition to HB 4083 and HB 4090.
Akash Patel, representing himself, testified in opposition to HB 4083 and HB 4090. Questions
and discussion followed.
Jessica Prozinski, representing Stop Trump Ann Arbor, testified in opposition to HB 4083 and
HB 4090.
The following people submitted a card in opposition to HB 4083 and HB 4090, but due to the
time constraints were unable to speak:
Hillary Scholten, representing the Michigan Immigrants Rights Center.
Rebeca Ontiveros-Chavez, representing the Michigan Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee
Rights.
Juan Marinez, representing himself.
Oscar Castauela, representing Action of Lansing.
Chris Hackbarth, representing the Michigan Municipal League.
Adam Nash, representing himself.
Diego Bonesatti, Michigan United
Natalie Czallagher, Academic Research on Immigration Legislation
Doug Booth, Michigan United
Theresa Rich, Farmington Hills City Council
Adonis Flores, Michigan United
The following person submitted a card in support of HB 4083 and HB 4090, but due to the time
constraints were unable to speak:
P. Deishan Myles, Team Pathusky
The following people submitted a card in opposition of HB 4083 and HB 4090, but did not wish
to speak:
Jack Egglesto, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Lisa Hamel, 702 Father Dukette
Julie A Lake
Moreno Taylor II, Wayne County
Linda Furlough
Henrietta Ivey, Michigan Caring Majority
Tim Ellerbe, Michigan Caring Majority
Roquesha O'Neal
Edna R. Bick, Michigan Unitarian Universalist Social Justice Network
Therese Shelley, Michigan United
Diana Youssef Faraj, Michigan United
Hauwa Abbas
Andrew Nowicki
Stuart Fielder
Casey Copp, Michigan United
Samuel D. Johnson, Michigan United
Juanita Bedell, Michigan United
Glenn Maxwell
George White, Michigan United
Bebda Washington, Michigan United
Doug Fleury, Michigan United
Pamela Coles, Michigan United
Rebecca Cooke, Michigan United
Jennifer Stark, U.S. Veterans
Rev. Sharon Buttry, Michigan United
Susan Matthews, Michigan United
Jose Garcia, St. Francis, St. Maximilian
Megan Kreger, Michigan United
Olga Martinez, St. Francis, St. Maximilian
Leticia Ueusties, Michigan United
Alvin Chee, St. Francis, St. Maximilian
Luis Garrido, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Jose Moline, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Virulaba Gonzalez, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Irmo Gonzalez, representing San Clemente.
Flor Monjaras, representing San Clemente.
Teresa Silva, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Claudia Fabian, representing Michigan United.
Armanda Gonzalez, representing Michigan United.
Tania Mandoza, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Fabrola Cobles, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Jasmin Lopez, representing Michigan United.
Maria Lilla Torres, representing Michigan United.
Noc Torres, representing Michigan United.
Ubaldo Rincu, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Lilia Sanchez, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Juventino Pineda-Hernandez, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Adriana Barron, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Amanda Youssef, representing Michigan United.
Elder Leslie Matthews, representing Michigan United.
Isabel Robles, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Fior Aguilar, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Hilaria Martinez, representing St. Francis, St. Maximilian.
Jose Rodriguez-Samuno, representing Michigan United.
Yesenia Daldivia-Zarate, representing Michigan United.
Josselin Zepeda, representing Michigan United.
Victoria Salazar, representing Michigan United.
Ana Torres, representing Michigan United.
Emanuel Romero, representing Michigan United.
Jerry Clayton, representing the Washtenaw County Sheriff's Office.
Lee Gonzales, representing the Michigan Department of Civil Rights.
Sherri Mason, representing Michigan United.
Vickie Smith, representing Indivisible Huron Valley.
Daniel Carrear-Conderos.
Tony Portrick, representing Mt. Hope Presbyterian Church.
Judy Allen, representing Michigan Townships Association.
Nadine Yousif, representing Code Legal Aid.
Heidi Thornley, representing the Citizens of Michigan.
Peter Ruark, representing the Michigan League for Public Policy.
Judy Karandyeff, representing the League of Women Voters.
Derek Sova, representing the Michigan Office of New Americans.
Amy Gumbrecht, representing Wayne County.
Blaine Koops, representing the Michigan Sheriff's Association.
Deena Bosworth, representing the Michigan Association of Counties.
Melanie Goldberg.
Yesenia Munella.
Audrey Pleasant, representing Michigan United.
Theresa Rich, representing herself.
Nomi Joyrich, representing Michigan United.
Sreela Dalta, representing Michigan United.
Representative Mueller moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4083. The motion prevailed 5-0-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T Carter, Manoogian.
Representative Mueller moved to adopt substitute (H-1) to HB 4090. The motion prevailed 5-0-
4:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: None.
Pass: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T Carter, Manoogian.
Representative Marino moved to refer House Bill No. 4083 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 5-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T Carter, Manoogian.
Pass: None.
Representative Marino moved to refer House Bill No. 4090 to the committee on Ways and
Means, with recommendation as substitute (H-1). The motion prevailed 5-4-0:
FAVORABLE ROLL CALL
Yeas: Reps. LaFave, Mueller, Marino, Afendoulis, Markkanen.
Nays: Reps. Jones, Chirkun, T Carter, Manoogian.
Pass: None.
There being no further business before the committee, Rep. Beau LaFave adjourned the meeting
at 12:58 PM.
Representative Beau LaFave, Chair
Matthew Carnagie
Committee Clerk
mcarnagie@house.mi.gov