MEMBERS:
SEN. LANA THEIS, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. RUTH A. JOHNSON
SEN. DAN LAUWERS
SEN. CURTIS S. VANDERWALL
SEN. DALE W. ZORN
SEN. JEREMY MOSS, MINORITY VICE CHAIR
SEN. DAYNA POLEHANKI
SEN. PAUL WOJNO
THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON REGULATORY REFORM
SENATOR ARIC NESBITT
CHAIR
6100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING
P.O. BOX 30036
LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536
PHONE: (517) 373-0793
FAX: (517) 373-5607
**DRAFT**
COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
December 1, 2020
A meeting of the Senate Committee on Regulatory Reform was scheduled for Tuesday, December 1, 2020, at
3:00 p.m., in the Harry T. Gast Appropriations Room.
The agenda summary is as follows:
1. Reported HB 5770 (S-1) (Rep. Mueller) with recommendation.
2. Reported HB 4186 (S-1) (Rep. Farrington) with recommendation.
3. Reported HB 4187 (S-1) (Rep. Farrington) with recommendation.
4. Reported HB 4910 (S-1) (Rep. Hall) with recommendation.
5. Reported HB 4911 (Rep. Cambensy) with recommendation.
6. Reported SB 1219 (Sen. Theis) with recommendation.
7. Testimony regarding HB 4213 (Rep. Berman).
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:14 p.m. He instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the
following members were present: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss,
Polehanki and Wojno, a quorum was present.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lauwers to adopt the meeting minutes from November 12, 2020.
Without objection, the minutes were adopted.
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5097:
Tom Hickson, Michigan Catholic Conference – Opposition
Ryan Larson, LAFCU – Opposition
Rebecca O'Connell, Lake Trust – Opposition
Jenae Thompkins Rutland, CEDAM – Opposition
Kleran Marion and Haleigh Krombeen, Michigan Credit Union League – Opposition
Lorray Brown, Michigan Poverty Law Program – Opposition
John Rabenold, Axcess Financial – Support
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Jessica AcMoody, CEDAM – Opposition
Sandra Pearson, Habitat for Humanity of Michigan – Opposition
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding HB 5097 and HB 5253:
Rep. Brandt Iden – Support
Ron Hicks, Citizen – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 5253:
Karen Gyger, Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services – Support
Haleigh Krombeen, Michigan Credit Union League – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 5097
and HB 5253:
Kenneth Cole, Purpose Financial/Advance America – Support
Jabo Covert, Check Into Cash – Support
Patricia Herndon, Michigan Bankers Association – Neutral
Rob Griaseon, Checksmart – Support
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 5097:
Timothy Rasmussen, Community First FCU – Opposition
Pete Dzuris, Northland Area FCU – Opposition
Jessica Workman, Advantage One CU – Opposition
Karen MacDonald, Wayne Metropolitan Community Action Agency – Opposition
Eileen Hayes, Michigan Faith in Action – Opposition
Jeremy Zager, Dort FCU – Opposition
Ken Toll, United Way of Jackson County – Opposition
Ruth Johnson, Community Development Advocates of Detroit – Opposition
Ann MacGregor, Habitat for Humanity Hiawathaland – Opposition
Andy Schor, City of Lansing – Opposition
Susan Harding, OLHSA – Opposition
Helen Hicks, Macomb County Habitat for Humanity – Opposition
Talonda Mulgrew, Habitat for Humanity Capitol Region – Opposition
Helen Lehman, New Development Corp. – Opposition
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Stephanie Hoffman, Open Doors Kalamazoo – Opposition
Christine Robere, United Way of the Lakeshore – Opposition
Laurel Burchfield, Michigan Coalition Against Homelessness – Opposition
Jeremy DeRoo, LINC Up – Opposition
Dennis Sturtevant, Dwelling Place of Grand Rapids – Opposition
Wendy Clow, Great Jackson Habitat for Humanity – Opposition
Pat Taylor, Kalamazoo Eastside Neighborhood Association – Opposition
Suzanne VanDam, Friends in Deed/Circle Washtenaw County – Opposition
Monica Schuyler, Pennies from Heaven Foundation – Opposition
Thomas Edmiston, Cinnacre – Opposition
Thomas Hutchinson, Genesee County Habitat for Humanity – Opposition
Galyn Barnum, Housing Resources Inc. – Opposition
Lorinda Marie Roberts, Roscommon Habitat – Opposition
Ernest Werth-Toward, Blue Water Habitat for Humanity – Opposition
Claire Michael, United Way Battle Creek and Kalamazoo Region – Opposition
Mandy Martin, Cheboygan County Habitat for Humanity – Opposition
Chong-Anna Canfora, Michigan Community Action – Opposition
Karin Gyger, Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services – Opposition
Lora Gilbert, Cinnaire – Opposition
Nick Bourke, Pew Charitable Trusts – No Position
Bridget Hermann, United Way Washtenaw County – Opposition
Robin Coleman, Genesis Hope – Opposition
Kelly Bidelman, Center for Civic Justice – Opposition
Amber Payton, City of Lansing – Opposition
Christine Narayanan, Opportunity Resource Fund – Opposition
Nancy Lindman, Michigan Association of United Ways – Opposition
Leonard Sanchez, Neighborhood Legal Services Michigan – Opposition
Martin Carter, Astera Credit Union – Opposition
Dave Blaszkiewicz, Invest Detroit – Opposition
Courtney Morrow, Genesis Hope Community Development Corporation – Opposition
Carey Harris, Clare County Habitat for Humanity – Opposition
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Beth Shafer, United Way Jackson County – Opposition
Robert Pallarito, Citizen – Support
Jared Maymard, Citizen – Support
Amanda Klein, United Way Southeast Michigan – Opposition
Rob Macomber, Citizen – Support
Sandy Call, Citizen – Support
Rick Ballard, Citizen – Opposition
Doreen Takalo, Citizen – Support
Jenni Curtin, Citizen – Support
Hank Hubbard, One Detroit CU – Opposition
Ryan Larson, LAFCU – Opposition
Karen Church, ELGA CU – Opposition
Greg Dietrich, Frankenmuth CU – Opposition
Dean Trudeau, Public Service CU – Opposition
Kim Wilson, Muskegon Co-Op FCU – Opposition
Dan Baines, Bloom CU – Opposition
Adam Johnson, Safe Harbor CU – Opposition
Kris Lewis, Allegan CU – Opposition
Kristen Williamson, Members First CU – Opposition
Patty Campbell, Christian Financial CU – Opposition
Catherine Morey, Alliance Catholic CU – Opposition
Chrissy Siders, CP Financial CU – Opposition
Julie Kreinbring, Zeal CU – Opposition
Nick Montie, Wolverine State CU – Opposition
Derek McKerr, CASE CU – Opposition
James Yagley, Fafnir – Opposition
Rex Anderson, Council of the Michigan Consumer Law Section – Opposition
Joni Risner, Capital Area United Way – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4910
and HB 4911:
Karlene Lehman, Property Management Association of Michigan – Support
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Mark McWilliams, Disability Rights Michigan – Opposition
Sherry Boyd, ARC Michigan – Opposition
I. Matthew Miller, Property Management Association of Michigan – Support
Jim Schaafsma, Michigan Poverty Law Program – Opposition
Kelly Bidelman, Center for Civic Justice – Opposition
Peggy Ellis, Detroit Metropolitan Apartment Association – Support
Marianne Huff, Mental Health Association in Michigan – Opposition
Heather Collin, Property Management Association of Mid-Michigan – Support
Pamela Lovell, AMP Residential – Support
Megan Orser, Smart Apartment Solutions – Support
Alice Ehn, Washtenaw Area Apartment Association – Support
Cheryl Zagorski, KMG Prestige – Support
Suzanna Bellon, Central Park Apartments – Support
Duy Vu, Land and Company – Support
Amber Williams, Monarch Investment Group – Support
Joyce Brighton, KMG Prestige – Support
Kevin McKinney, Brain Injury Association of Michigan – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4910:
Scott Kempa, Michigan State Medical Society – Opposition
Theresa Metzmaker, Michigan Disability Rights Coalition – Opposition
Robert Kosowski, Michigan Psychiatric Society – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4213:
Stephanie Johnson, Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police – Opposition
Marsha Benz, Wolverine Wellness – Opposition
Scott Ellis, MLBA – Support
Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Opposition
David Marvin, Michigan Liquor Control Commission – Opposition
Ashley Bermeon, Citizen – Opposition
Sean Fletcher, Prevention Works of Southwest Michigan – Opposition
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Donna Sperry, Citizen – Opposition
Dana Nessel, Michigan Office of the Attorney General – Opposition
Mike Tobias, Michigan Alcohol Policy – Opposition
The Chair read the cards of those individuals not wishing to testify before the committee regarding HB 4186
and HB 4187:
Mike Tierney, Community Bankers of Michigan – Support
Patricia Herndon, Michigan Bankers Association – Support
The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony before the committee regarding SB 1219:
Sen. Theis – Support
At 3:54 p.m., the Chair recessed the committee.
At 3:56 p.m., the Chair reconvened the committee.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 5770. The vote was as
follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report the (S-1) version of HB 5770 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4186. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report the (S-1) version of HB 4186 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4187. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
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The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report the (S-1) version of HB 4187 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to adopt the (S-1) version of HB 4910. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, Zorn, Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
Nays: None
The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report the (S-1) version of HB 4910 to the floor with
recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, Zorn, and Polehanki.
Nays: Sen.(s) Moss and Wojno.
Pass: Sen.(s) VanderWall.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Theis to report HB 4911 to the floor with recommendation that it pass.
The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, Zorn, and Polehanki.
Nays: Sen.(s) Moss and Wojno.
Pass: Sen.(s) VanderWall.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Lauwers to report SB 1219 to the floor with recommendation that it
pass. The vote was as follows:
Yeas: Chair Nesbitt, Sen.(s) Theis, Johnson, Lauwers, VanderWall, and Zorn.
Nays: Sen.(s) Moss, Polehanki, and Wojno.
The motion prevailed and the bill was reported.
There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without
objection, the committee was adjourned at 5:35 p.m.
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