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Meeting date: 2023-09-28
Scheduled start: 2023-09-28 12:00:00.000000
Documented start: 2023-09-28 12:08:00.000000
Documented end: 2023-09-28 13:23:00.000000
Location: the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building
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Actual end: 2023-09-28 13:23:00.000000
Actual start: 2023-09-28 12:08:00.000000
Chamber: senate
Committee id: committee-270
Committee name: Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety
Evidence text: MEMBERS: SEN. SUE SHINK, MAJORITY VICE CHAIR SEN. PAUL WOJNO SEN. JEFF IRWIN SEN. SYLVIA SANTANA SEN. JIM RUNESTAD, MINORITY VICE CHAIR SEN. RUTH JOHNSON THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS, JUDICIARY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY SENATOR STEPHANIE CHANG CHAIR 4100 BINSFELD OFFICE BUILDING P.O. BOX 30036 LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909-7536 PHONE: (517) 373-7346 FAX: (517) 373-9320 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES September 28, 2023 A meeting of the Senate Committee on Civil Rights, Judiciary, and Public Safety was scheduled for Thursday, September 28, 2023, at 12:00 p.m., in the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building. The agenda summary is as follows: 1. Reported HB 4516 (Rep. Coffia) with recommendation. 2. Reported HB 4420 (Rep. Rogers) with recommendation. 3. Reported HB 4421 (Rep. Young) with recommendation. 4. Reported HB 4422 (Rep. Filler) with recommendation. 5. Reported HB 4423 (Rep. VanWoerkom) with recommendation. 6. Reported SB 418 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation. 7. Reported SB 419 (S-1) (Sen. Santana) with recommendation. 8. Reported SB 420 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation. 9. Reported SB 421 (S-1) (Sen. Klinefelt) with recommendation. 10. Reported SB 422 (S-1) (Sen. McDonald Rivet) with recommendation. 11. Reported SB 423 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation. 12. Reported SB 424 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation. 13. Reported SB 425 (S-1) (Sen. Shink) with recommendation. 14. Reported SB 426 (Sen. Wojno) with recommendation. 15. Reported SB 427 (S-1) (Sen. McMorrow) with recommendation. 16. Reported SB 428 (S-1) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation. 17. Reported SB 429 (S-1) (Sen. Irwin) with recommendation. 18. Reported SB 430 (S-1) (Sen. Geiss) with recommendation. 19. Reported SB 431 (S-1) (Sen. Moss) with recommendation. 20. Reported SB 432 (S-1) (Sen. Victory) with recommendation. 21. Reported SB 433 (Sen. Johnson) with recommendation. 22. Reported SB 434 (Sen. McCann) with recommendation. 23. Reported SB 435 (Sen. Polehanki) with recommendation. 24. Reported SB 436 (Sen. Damosse) with recommendation. 25. Reported SB 437 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation. 26. Reported SB 471 (S-2) (Sen. Chang) with recommendation. 27. Reported SB 472 (Sen. Chang) with recommendation. 28. Reported SB 528 (Sen. Shink) with recommendation. Page 1 of 13 The Chair called the meeting to order at 12:08 p.m. She instructed the Clerk to call the roll. At that time, the following members were present: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson, a quorum was present. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the meeting minutes from September 21, 2023. Without objection, the minutes were adopted. The Chair brought up HB 4516. The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB 4516: Mike McCoy, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians - Support Jess Averill, MI Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support David M. Arroyo, Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians – Support Chardae Burton, MI Department of Health and Human Services – Support The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report HB 4516 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair brought up HB’s 4420-4423. The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding HB’s 4420-4423: Nathan Triplett, State Bar of Michigan – Support HB 4421 and HB 4423 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4420 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report HB 4421 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. Page 2 of 13 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report HB 4422 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: None Pass: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report HB 4423 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair brought up SB’s 418-437. The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 418-437: Tom Hickson, Michigan Catholic Conference – Support SB418, 424-437 Samantha Gibson, Michigan Association of Counties – Support Lois Pullano, Citizens for Prison Reform – Support Trevor VanDyke, Supreme Court Administrative Office – Support Nathan Triplett, State Bar of Michigan – Support SB’s 418-425, 428-431 Michelle Roberts, Disability Rights Michigan – Support SB’s 418,419, 421, 422, 423, 427-437 Chardae Burton, MI Department of Health and Human Services – Support SB’s 418-424, 426-427 Thom Lattig, MI Association for Family Court Administration – Support Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Support SB’s418, 420-427 Matt Saxton, Michigan Sheriffs Association – Oppose SB 419 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 418. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None Page 3 of 13 The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. Sen. Johnson moved to reconsider the vote by which SB 418 (S-1) passed. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the vote was reconsidered. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: Sen. Runestad Pass: Sen. Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 419. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 419 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: Sen. Runestad Pass: Sen. Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. Page 4 of 13 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 420. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 420 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: Sen. Runestad Pass: Sen. Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 421. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 421 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 418. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 418 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 422. The vote was as follows: Page 5 of 13 Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 422 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 423. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 423 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 424. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 424 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 425. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Page 6 of 13 Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 425 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 426 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 427. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 427 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 428. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. Page 7 of 13 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 428 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: Sen. Runestad Pass: Sen. Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 429. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 429 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 430. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Santana to report SB 430 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 431. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. Page 8 of 13 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 431 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 425. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 425 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to the (S-1) version of SB 432. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-1) version of SB 432. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-1) version of SB 432. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, Runestad and Johnson Nays: None The motion prevailed and the (S-1) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 432 (S-1) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Page 9 of 13 Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 433 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 434 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 435 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Johnson to report SB 436 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 437 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin, Santana, and Johnson Nays: Sen. Runestad The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. Page 10 of 13 The Chair brought up SB’s 471-472, and SB 528. The Chair invited the following individuals to present testimony regarding SB’s 471-472, and SB 528: Tom Lambert, Michigan Open Carry – Oppose Brenden Boudreau, Great Lakes Gun Rights – Oppose Heath Lowry, MI Coalition to End Domestic & Sexual Violence - Support Celeste Kanpurawalg, Moms Demand Action – Support The cards were read of those individuals not wishing to present testimony regarding SB’s 471-472, and SB 528: Linda Danders, Moms Demand Action - Support Jess Averill, MI Domestic & Sexual Violence Prevention & Treatment Board – Support Trooper Kristina Droste, Michigan State Police – Support Matt Black, Michigan Academy of Family Physicians – Support Scott Jones, National Rifle Association – Oppose The following cards were submitted during the September 14, 2023 committee hearing. Due to time constrains the cards were unable to be read in at that time. These cards were recorded in the meeting minutes from that hearing. Steve Prange, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support Rachel Richards, Michigan League for Public Policy – Support Kelly Dillaha, Red Wine and Blue – Support Rani Asava, Students Demand Action – Support Saylor Reinders, Students Demand Action – Support Aaron Rusch, YWCA Kalamazoo – Support SB 471 Celeste Kampurwala, Moms Demand Action – Support Pastor Aqeel T. Ash-Shakoor, Voices of Color – Support Megan Reynolds, MI Poverty Law Program – Support Lauren Jasinski, MI Education Association – Support Bessie Roper, Moms Demand Action – Support Ryan Bates, End Gun Violence MI – Support Sheriff Mike Bouchard, Oakland County – Neutral Page 11 of 13 Lizbeth Estes, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support Janet Prange, Indivisible Huron Valley – Support Brady Sckickinger, MI Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners – Oppose Catherine Marshall, Self – Support Teanesha Ash-Shakoor, Voices of Color Sen. Runestad offered amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 471. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Runestad to adopt amendment #1 to the (S-2) version of SB 471. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson Nays: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana The motion failed and the amendment was not adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to adopt the (S-2) version of SB 471. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson The motion prevailed and the (S-2) was adopted. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Wojno to report SB 471 (S-2) to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: None Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Irwin to report SB 472 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: None Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. Page 12 of 13 The Chair entertained a motion by Sen. Shink to report SB 528 to the floor with recommendation that it pass. The vote was as follows: Yeas: Chair Chang, Sen.(s) Shink, Wojno, Irwin and Santana Nays: None Pass: Sen.(s) Runestad and Johnson The motion prevailed and the bill was reported. There being no further business before the committee, the Chair moved to adjourn the committee. Without objection, the committee was adjourned at 1:23 p.m. Date adopted by committee: 10/05/2023 Page 13 of 13
Location: the 1200 Room of the Binsfeld Office Building
Media count: 1
Meeting date: 2023-09-28
Meeting id: meeting-3990
Meeting state: held
Minutes url: Open official source ↗
Quorum state: quorum confirmed
Scheduled start: 2023-09-28 12:00:00.000000
Session name: 2023-2024

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